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still_one

(92,187 posts)
2. Moore's chances to win are greatly improved because the third party write-in candidate entered the
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:07 PM
Nov 2017

race, and he will take votes away from Jones.

As to your question, it won't disappear, because they are trying to silence Franken

eppur_se_muova

(36,261 posts)
11. Ummmmm ... he's a Trump supporter ... likely to split the Repug vote, not Dems or I's.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:04 PM
Nov 2017

Although I think the R's who vote for him will be ones who wouldn't vote for Moore anyway, with little effect on Jones. Moore still looks to be ahead, tragic to say.

still_one

(92,187 posts)
12. I disagree. I think those that had a problem with Moore's sexual connections with minors, would
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:10 PM
Nov 2017

have been inclined to go with Jones because they were rightfully so repulsed by Moore

In fact, Jones was ahead in all of the polls before this third party write-in entered the race, and the polls completely reversed in Moore's favor after that. Nothing else had changed except the write-in entering the race.


eppur_se_muova

(36,261 posts)
13. Moore was reported back in the lead before the write-in candidate came forward ...
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:32 PM
Nov 2017

... and two more recent polls are from Mon and Tue. I doubt there's been time for Busby's "candidacy" to have much effect yet. I don't think Busby is going to hurt Dems.

Moore voters are just responding to reassurances that they shouldn't listen to those awful outsiders attacking Moore, never mind that the women accusing him are all home-grown, small-town Alabamans. The ones printing the stories are goldurned Yankee reporters, and that's all it takes to "discredit" the accusations. So now Moore is safe again.

Remember Jones is affirmatively pro-choice. No former Moore supporter is likely to vote for him.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
14. That makes no sense
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:33 PM
Nov 2017

He will split the R vote.

Sure, some people would have voted for Jones now instead of Moore and they will go back to the new R. But that still splits what was originally the R vote. No Dem is going to vote for and R just because it's not Moore. Jones still has his base voting for him.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
3. They won't disappear.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:09 PM
Nov 2017

Franken might be a good candidate for president in 2020.

The Republican machine played the Benghazi and e-mail recordings over and over even though there was little to them.

They will also play the Franken lies and exaggerations over and over just to ruin his reputation before the voters. Watch. They will go after him. They know he would win a presidential election. Just watch.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
7. I remember when, prior to the 2016 election, a liberal friend told me that
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:18 PM
Nov 2017

Hillary had killed people or ordered people killed.

I knew when she said it that the rumors were utterly false, absurdly false, unimaginably horrible in their origin, and that Republicans would cheat any way they could to make sure she did not win an election for the presidency.

The Republican rumor machine is really, really ugly.

They lie on purpose. Just to ruin the lives of people they disagree with about money and politics. Don't trust them.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
8. And those lies about Clinton
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:23 PM
Nov 2017

were believed, and are still believed.

For the GOP, it is only about power.

rockfordfile

(8,702 posts)
9. No because I think that
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:29 PM
Nov 2017

No because I think that the "oh he group me, look at the picture" can be created/pushed easily. When a public figure's job is with the public and to go do events with people and take pictures then anybody can say anything.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
10. IF Roy Moore wins?
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:59 PM
Nov 2017

He's gonna WIN unfortunately. His numbers in the latest polling I've seen indicate that.

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