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"Theres more than one way to harass women. A raft of men in recent weeks have paid for accusations of sexual harassment with their companies, their jobs, their plum political posts. But one point has been overlooked in the scandals: Men can be belittling, cruel and deeply damaging without demanding sex. (Try sloughing off heaps of contempt with your self-esteem intact.) We have no consensus and hardly any discussion about how we should treat behaviors that are misogynist and bullying but fall short of breaking the law.
Twenty years ago, when I was a Moscow correspondent for the Baltimore Sun, two Americans named Matt Taibbi and Mark Ames ran an English-language tabloid in the Russian capital called the eXile. They portrayed themselves as swashbuckling parodists, unbound by the conventions of mainstream journalism, exposing Westerners who were cynically profiting from the chaos of post-Soviet Russia.
A better description is this: The eXile was juvenile, stunt-obsessed and pornographic, titillating for high school boys. It is back in the news because Taibbi just wrote a new book, and interviewers are asking him why he and Ames acted so boorishly back then. The eXiles distinguishing feature, more than anything else, was its blinding sexism which often targeted me."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/the-two-expat-bros-who-terrorized-women-correspondents-in-moscow/2017/12/15/91ff338c-ca3c-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?utm_term=.1b6fa04e5675
4now
(1,596 posts)and why Rolling Stone continues to employ him is beyond me.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,338 posts)Pretending it was all an act is simply disingenuous.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Thats a direct quote. Believe the women.
He did say some misogynistic shit twenty years ago and was mean to an American reporter, but there is far more to this story.
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/12/the-destruction-of-matt-taibbi.html
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)No big deal.
kcr
(15,316 posts)Hahahahahaha
dumped by Salon (along with HA-HA), now a cub reporter at Paste, still grinding the same ax. Next stop...National Enquirer.
kcr
(15,316 posts)I hope Salon dumping them is a step toward improvement. I don't know if they'll ever get back to their prime, but it's something.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)the reporter who wrote the article I linked to. She was Ames' and Taibi's target and victim. Here's Ms. Lally's reaction to discovering that she was a "character" in what Taibbi and Ames conveniently choose to characterize 18 years later as a "work of fiction" rather than as the memoir it actually is according to its publisher:
"When The eXile: Sex, Drugs and Libel in the New Russia came out, the memoir had a few more surprises in store. 'We dragged . . . Lallys charred [corpse] through the dust-and-fly-infested streets of our newspaper for all to have a laugh,' Ames wrote. In the most unexpected anecdote, Taibbi said that another reporter, Fred Weir, described in great detail how the eXile had made me cry. 'Good!' Taibbi describes himself shouting. I was aware of Weir; probably we had bumped into each other at news conferences. But I didnt know him. I couldnt imagine why I would ever have wept in front of him."
Why anyone would selectively take the word of a Taibi apologist (who actively encouraged liberals to vote Trump over Clinton) at an online rag like Paste over the word of a WaPo reporter who was NAMED and gleefully victimized by Taibi and Ames in the memoir itself is beyond comprehension.
https://www.salon.com/2016/04/29/a_liberal_case_for_donald_trump_the_lesser_of_two_evils_is_not_at_all_clear_in_2016/?platform=hootsuite
SunSeeker
(51,553 posts)brer cat
(24,565 posts)then they didn't harass anyone? That should get every person accused off the hook. Nicely done!
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)lapucelle
(18,252 posts)She is a "woman in the book".
mcar
(42,329 posts)An apology isn't even close to good enough.
SunSeeker
(51,553 posts)sheshe2
(83,758 posts)The old... boys will be boys, wink wink nudge nudge.
Or as donnie likes to say...locker room talk.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)dsc
(52,161 posts)if it were true. What their excuse amounts to is that they published a pack of lies and called it the truth. That should disturb anyone who cares about journalism.