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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 09:51 PM Feb 2015

Agence France-Presse: Russia's guy says Ukraine run by 'miserable Jews'

Source: Agence France Press

Donetsk (Ukraine) (AFP) - Ukraine's pro-Russian rebel chief on Monday branded the country's leaders "miserable" Jews in an apparent anti-Semitic jibe.

Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, claimed that Kiev's pro-Western leaders were "miserable representatives of the great Jewish people".

"I can't remember a time when Cossacks were led by people who have never held a sword in their hands," Zakharchenko told a press conference in the eastern rebel stronghold of Donetsk, in a reference to Ukraine's nationalist forebears, the Cossacks.

Zakharchenko said that the country's historical nationalists "would turn in their graves if they could see who is running Ukraine."

Read more: https://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine-abroad/agence-france-presse-russias-guy-says-ukraine-run-by-miserable-jews-379264.html



This is man who Putin has leading the Russian invaders in Ukraine.
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Agence France-Presse: Russia's guy says Ukraine run by 'miserable Jews' (Original Post) uhnope Feb 2015 OP
Sounds like an inspiring anti-nazi leader! oh wait.... Adrahil Feb 2015 #1
Claims AFP is a CIA Imperialist American Pigdog operation in 3... 2... 1... DRoseDARs Feb 2015 #2
I stumbled onto that today... Recycled CT from RT. freshwest Feb 2015 #9
Pooty will replace him. He's replaced the self-proclaimed TwilightGardener Feb 2015 #3
I'm sure he just meant to say that Barack Obama admitted that the US davidpdx Feb 2015 #4
LULZ Jesus Malverde Feb 2015 #5
"miserable representatives of the great Jewish people" was the actual text newthinking Feb 2015 #7
wow, imagine reorg Feb 2015 #13
But that can't be. Several DUers are certain Russia is pro-diversity and Ukraine is neo-nazi. stevenleser Feb 2015 #6
Remember Nuland's Jewish cookies: freshwest Feb 2015 #8
Actually she is a neocon (and the wife of one of the architects of the Iraq war) newthinking Feb 2015 #10
"Not sure what her religious beliefs are" yeah riiiiiiggggght uhnope Feb 2015 #12
I have no idea mr nasty who can never resist newthinking Feb 2015 #18
It is amazing to watch them spin this. Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #14
We must be mishpucha frazzled Feb 2015 #15
I am still trying to find where my dad's people went. Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #16
Yes, records from that part of the world are difficult frazzled Feb 2015 #17
While I'm sorry to hear about your family's suffering, I'm glad there is someone here who can davidpdx Feb 2015 #19
"[A]pparent anti-Semitic jibe"? DavidDvorkin Feb 2015 #11
C'mon, now, make up your minds. Nitram Feb 2015 #20
 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
2. Claims AFP is a CIA Imperialist American Pigdog operation in 3... 2... 1...
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 10:25 PM
Feb 2015

Links to RT videos "proving" this soon to follow.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
3. Pooty will replace him. He's replaced the self-proclaimed
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 11:29 PM
Feb 2015

whatevers of whatever a couple times over, I believe.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
4. I'm sure he just meant to say that Barack Obama admitted that the US
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 11:30 PM
Feb 2015

overthrew the country. Wait, no that's not it.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
5. LULZ
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 11:43 PM
Feb 2015

I was wondering why you didn't link to the actual AFP article. The Kyivpost is not a reliable source here is from the AFP article.

Ukraine's pro-Russian rebel chief on Monday branded the country's leaders "miserable" Jews in an apparent anti-Semitic jibe.

Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, claimed that Kiev's pro-Western leaders were "miserable representatives of the great Jewish people".

"I can't remember a time when Cossacks were led by people who have never held a sword in their hands," Zakharchenko told a press conference in the eastern rebel stronghold of Donetsk, in a reference to Ukraine's nationalist forebears, the Cossacks.


http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-run-miserable-jews-rebel-chief-202600090.html

reorg

(3,317 posts)
13. wow, imagine
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 12:38 AM
Feb 2015

if some liberal, perhaps from the UK, had a few years ago branded America's neoconservative leaders who were invading foreign countries as "miserable representatives of the great American people" and had said "I can't remember a time when this great nation was led by draft-dodgers. The founders of that great nation would turn in their graves if they could see who is running the US ..."

Surely, news outlets all over the world would have immediately engaged in speculation over whether such godless liberals were congenital America haters and racists or just insane.

Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, claimed that Kiev's pro-Western leaders were "miserable representatives of the great Jewish people".

"I can't remember a time when Cossacks were led by people who have never held a sword in their hands," Zakharchenko told a press conference in the eastern rebel stronghold of Donetsk, in a reference to Ukraine's nationalist forebears, the Cossacks.

Zakharchenko said that the country's historical nationalists "would turn in their graves if they could see who is running Ukraine."
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
6. But that can't be. Several DUers are certain Russia is pro-diversity and Ukraine is neo-nazi.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 11:45 PM
Feb 2015

Certainly information will be forthcoming from RT debunking this all soon!

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
10. Actually she is a neocon (and the wife of one of the architects of the Iraq war)
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 12:04 AM
Feb 2015

Not sure what her religious beliefs are

Behind the Aegis

(53,965 posts)
14. It is amazing to watch them spin this.
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 01:20 AM
Feb 2015

It wasn't too long ago how they were condemning anti-Semitism; of course, it was coming from Ukraine's side. "You don't look fat in that dress at all!" What?! That isn't a compliment?! Say it isn't so!

I love the comment about the Cossacks. The same group who ran my father's relatives out of Belarus! A quarter of them came to the States, the rest went to Poland. Guess which ones my dad is descended from?

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
15. We must be mishpucha
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 01:32 AM
Feb 2015

Or not--so many fled that region. My (paternal) grandparents were from around Brest-Litovsk--sometimes in Belarus, sometimes in Poland, depending on the season. In their family, some came to the United States, some to Argentina.

Behind the Aegis

(53,965 posts)
16. I am still trying to find where my dad's people went.
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 01:39 AM
Feb 2015

They were from the capitol of Belarus and one of it's Jewish suburbs. What we do know are none (supposedly) went to Warsaw. It has been hard finding records as they were either destroyed (by Cossacks, invading Germans), lost, or incomplete. I was particularly amazed to discover how many at the time (late 1800's) still didn't have a real last name!

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
17. Yes, records from that part of the world are difficult
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 02:15 AM
Feb 2015

A lot of what we know comes simply from first-generation knowledge. My grandmother and grandfather (and his brothers) made it to the US (this was at the beginning of the 20th century); my grandmother's brother and his family went to Buenos Aires. Because we actually knew both parts of the family, this much we know (though of course they weren't big on reliving the past and going in to much detail). Going back any farther is almost impossible.

My husband's family, also from that general region in Eastern Europe had an interesting migration: his father's family escaped to Wales (where his father, the youngest, was born). Wales, as it turns out, had a substantial influx of Jewish refugees. In more recent years he discovered that another part of the family ended up in Hong Kong. But we've never been able to find out anything about them.

This is what diaspora means. It leaves you feeling a bit of an orphan: you don't know quite where your people came from, and even if you did, very little of their world would exist anymore.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
19. While I'm sorry to hear about your family's suffering, I'm glad there is someone here who can
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 09:11 AM
Feb 2015

add perspective to the conversation. The dress joke was pretty funny too.

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