Islamic State supporters post photos purportedly showing Jordanian pilot burnt alive

[Bosonic]

Source: Reuters

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Supporters of the Islamic State insurgent group circulated photos on social media on Tuesday purporting to show captive Jordanian pilot Muath al-Kasaesbeh being burnt alive.

Reuters could not immediately confirm the five images, which showed a burning man standing in a black cage. Kasaesbeh has been in Islamic State captivity since his plane crashed over Syria in December.

Read more: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/islamic-state-supporters-post-photos-purportedly-showing-jordanian-170209043.html#LDC09cV

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IS claims to have burned Jordanian pilot alive: video

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/562652013117583360

#UPDATE State TV says Jordanian pilot whom Islamic State group claim to have burnt alive was killed a month ago

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/562673156964745217

#BREAKING Jordan will execute female would-be bomber Wednesday, security official says

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/562685770994298888

[Laurian]

1. My God, what barbarians!

When will this evil end?

[Dont call me Shirley]

51. These barbarians have been supported by the house of

saud, John MICain, Lindsay Graham. Created by the bushco and the firm.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

2. Horrible death - I think I'd rather be decapitated by a rusty sword than be burned alive

While it must hurt like hell from the multiple whacks of a sword, it's probably quicker than being burned alive like the English burned Joan of Arc.

[leftynyc]

3. Fucking barbarians

It's time for Jordan and all her neighbors to get their military up and in the face of isis. They must be crushed, not just beaten, crushed into the ground so fucking hard their great grand children will feel it.

[sanatanadharma]

24. Barbarians not worthy of being considered terrorists, like Hagana, Irgun and Stern

We must drop the words terrorist, radical Islam, ISIS, ISIL, Muslim etc.
Speaking plainly and repeatedly, driving home the point...they are BARBARIANS
Barbarians are anathema to the Prophet.

"There is no room for barbarians in the fold of Islam. We all recall how Saladin treated his enemies after he reconquered Jerusalem in 1187—there was mercy, justice with no bloodshed and the Crusaders were allowed to leave in peace and with dignity, which was in stark contrast..." From Friday Sept 26th 2014: By Prof Faroque A Khan—Member Board of Trustee of the Islamic Center of Long Island Cached at link

[leftynyc]

25. I don't give a fuck who

kills the vermin. Would you feel better if Muslims did it?

[polly7]

4. How horrible.

[Botany]

5. Everybody should remember that ISIS is the result of bush and Cheney's unneeded war in Iraq

Less then 2 months before starting the war in 2003 w did not know that
Shia and Sunni Muslims were different and that Saddam used to shoot
al Qaeda members on the spot but still w went ahead with his war and
the world is reaping the whirl-wind.

W/that being said I hope we kill those ISIS bastards by the truck load.

[brooklynite]

12. So, if only we hadn't invaded Iraq, the ISIS members would all be quietly farming?

Okay, let's go with that...

[Botany]

29. No some would have still turned out to be murdering thugs ....

.... but by destabilizing the region and blowing up their homes, schools, and businesses
we made many many many future jihad warriors.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

31. Are you defending the war criminal Bush's war of aggression?

For all his many faults, Saddam Hussein actually stomped down hard on terrorists who threatened his perceived right to be the only one to oppress his people. He was no friend of al Quaeda, and would have equally worked to destroy ISIS types. Bush created a power vacuum, and allowed even worse people to take control of large swathes of the Middle East.

[brooklynite]

36. Defending? No. Pointing out Bush isn't a simple excuse for all the world's problems...

...Just as likely that the Arab Spring would have come along anyone and formented an uprising in Iraq.

[The Stranger]

47. They would likely still be in the Iraqi army under Saddam.

Not quietly farming, but also not burning people alive.

The Neocons decided to disband the Iraqi military instead of using it to keep the peace.

CIA was on record for months before the Neocons invaded warning that there would be a decade or more of bloodshed if Saddam were removed from the powder keg on which he stood. Paul Wolfowitz even created a parallel espionage agency in DoD to try to counter what CIA was advising. The Office of Special Plans deliberately circulated false intel to get the U.S. to invade.

All of this, by the way, is largely undisputed.

[Botany]

50. +1

I think it was Joe Wilson but in late Feb. or early March 2003 he said the
following, (very rough quote) In Iraq there are 103 different sides and the
one thing they have in common is that they all hate each other. Yes, we can
be in Bagdad in a week but that is when our real troubles will start. I wouldn't
wish trying to govern Iraq on my worst enemy. again rough quote

BTW both the Office of Special Plans and the White House Iraq Group were
made up so as to make the intel "fit into" reasons to invade.

the stranger

[Cleita]

16. Bush and Cheney should be arrested for war crimes and put on trial.

Instead of something as cushy as being sent to prison for life as punishment maybe we should hand them over to ISIS as a hostage exchange.

[7962]

22. Hey it only took 5 posts before someone blamed Bush!!

[Botany]

30. Put the blame where it belongs .... bush and Cheney they stirred up that mess

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n/t

[Trajan]

55. So, that's the second post of yours in 20 minutes of reading

The makes me think you accidentally joined this forum ...

Did you get lost?

[freshwest]

71. Of course it's all our fault. There was never any evil in the world before the USA.

Bush was just the icing on the cake of history's atrocities.

[jtuck004]

6. You mean like we did to women, children, old men in Vietnam, month after month?

Or are they bad guys? I have trouble deciding.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

10. The attrocities in Vietnam spawned worldwide protests

Some young people even gave their lives at Jackson State and at Kent State. The entire world needs to wake up and rise up in protest over these animals in ISIS.

[jtuck004]

11. And went on for years. How many days has it been since we incinerated a kid with a drone?

Speaking of animals.

If we fixed our own problems we would have a better moral standing to tell other people what to do, instead of just pretending from atop our High Horse of Self-Righteousness.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

13. Anyone who refuses to recognize the evil of ISIS and won't want to do something about it

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has no business whatsoever in talking about morality.

[jtuck004]

14. I would say the same thing about the hypocrites in the US. n/t

[CJCRANE]

20. We still don't know

who or what exactly is behind this new iteration of ISIS.

We'll probably find out in a few year's time when it's too late to do anything about it.

[jtuck004]

49. I think most people still think this is some kind of defined enemy we can defeat. They

don't see it as a philosophy or idea, and would rather lob bombs at "them" than do the hard work of trying to understand. But then thugs and murderers pop up, seemingly out of nowhere, and we keep getting surprised.

Perhaps that is an easier sell to this country, though, since we like emergencies, and we just love to have a group to hate, (we'll hate each other if we have to, but people who aren't close are easier to depersonalize). And we would rather go to war than read.

I remember during the Fukushima coverage Japanese television broadcast English words in the corner of the screen during newscasts. I checked, and apparently they teach English to people that way.

Maybe we should start dedicating 5 minutes of each newscast to some language, and maybe a little culture, of the groups we are fighting. Doubt it would make it worse, and one never knows.

[Democat]

35. Blame the USA for everything bad crowd is out

Didn't take long.

[jtuck004]

46. Blame? Accurately describe is more like it. We have killed more innocent people

in as horrific and tragic a manner as any terrorist has ever had a wet dream over.

They are bad, sure, Should we ignore them? We can't, and we have to "respond", but I just can't figure out where pretentiousness and arrogance give a strategic advantage.

They learn from us. Are learning from us. Today. Not like we used to do the bad things but learned not to, so we can tell them that we have found a better way. We haven't. We throw a white veil of purity over our actions and pretend they aren't as harmful to others. And our children's children will be paying the prices.

We have good reasons. Like "body count". Or euphemisms for piss-poor planning, like "collateral damage".

Still. Despite a football stadium full of chest beaters and displays of bravado, everyone shooting, the carnage is now spreading to new places.

We invited a young woman to the White House. She had been disfigured by "terrorists", but she didn't go on about how mean they were. Instead she intends to stop it, and her lesson was short and to the point.

"Guns kills terrorists. Education kills terrorism".

The saddest and perhaps most ironic part of the whole thing is that everyone assumed she meant the terrorists were the ones who needed to do the learning.

[haikugal]

7. Oh please noooo!

Horrible news.

Yes, it's horrible no matter who it happens to and no I'm not proud of our drone policy or our support for Israel policy or any of the atrocious things happening anywhere, with or without our counties help, or weapons or money. Is that inclusive enough for you.

[CJCRANE]

8. Psychos. These guys are acting out a real life horror movie.

There's something seriously wrong with with this group. I hope we find out what is behind all this one day.

Also note the amount of outrage they generate with single actions broadcast over social media.

We are a captive audience to their psychopathy. We are living in the age of terror vision.

[Brigid]

15. We are not a captive audience.

We can avoid watching that video. I know I will; viewing it will serve no useful purpose.

[CJCRANE]

18. I mean in the sense of all the media coverage.

There are a lot of other things going on in the world, like Boko Haram massacres etc etc which the MSM doesn't give the same weight to.

It's war by social media provocation.

[Yo_Mama]

19. I don't watch any of them, or look at the photos - but I also won't ignore what they are doing

Unholy bastards they are.

[CJCRANE]

21. But it's explicitly designed

for maximum impact in the media.

I just find it strange how much worse massacres were ignored by the TV news while they were going on in Syria for several years.

[haikugal]

59. You make an interesting point...

What are we being sold...

[uppityperson]

39. you know your post will be deleted, such an odd hobby

[Rhinodawg]

53. And the world does nothing but complain.

[denbot]

9. We need to tell Saudi's in no uncertain terms to stop supporting I.S.

As if bank rolling 911 wasn't enough.

[Cleita]

17. Good point. Or maybe we need to take them off "friend's" list. eom

[tishaLA]

23. Generally speaking, I like Greenwald, but he tweeted this....

and I am appalled:

On the latest hideous ISIS video: https://twitter.com/tomgara/status/562669317016526848 … ----> https://twitter.com/mollycrabapple/status/562669725621420032 …

[leftynyc]

26. I detest Greenwald

but you shouldn't be surprised at all. According to him, all the world's problems are the fault of the US.

[tishaLA]

28. his recent apologias for terrorism have been eye opening

between this and the Charlie Hebdo stuff....just disgusting

[Blue_Tires]

56. He also falls into that 'enemy of an enemy is a friend' absolutism

Which is an all-too-common trap for useful idiots of all hardline political stripes...Which is why Ron Paul is BFFs with Putin and Assad, Greenwald refuses to criticize Russia/China/etc., Scahill is defending AQAP on twitter, half of the nutbar leftist bloggers still say ISIS are CIA agents in disguise, and the list goes on...

Crabapple is fucking daft...I'm glad I unfollowed her a long time ago...

[leftynyc]

63. Greenwald

wont even comment on conditions in Brazil - where he lives. It's all about the evil, all encompassing evil, that the US represents. His schtik became tired long ago.

[Takashi Zara]

27. This is indeed what pilots (like the Jordanian) do when they drop bombs on people

Where is the appalling statement?

Although to be fair, Jordan does not involve itself in too many wars; it only has an armed forces so that it may violently oppress its own citizenry, and perhaps one day come to Israel's defense if a larger conflagration were to break out. Thus this particular pilot is perhaps unlikely to have as high of a body count as many pilots might, although it is still their purview to drop destruction and fire from the safety of their mile-high offices.

[closeupready]

43. Because it's okay to kill people when God is on our side, is how the argument goes.

I guess. It was first coined by the Romans, wasn't it? Or the Victorians? Or for that mattter, Islamic fanatics argue just that, don't they, that 'it's okay to kill infidels because that's what God wants'? Anyway, it's as false today as it was then.

[Blue_Tires]

57. Keep reading his TL...Greenwald tweets shit like that on a daily basis

I was keeping an archive of his "greatest hits", but even I can't keep up anymore...

[Kaleva]

32. Liveleak.com has the pics.

I won't post a link to it.

[bluestateguy]

33. Savage beats

Bomb the shit out of them Mr. President.

[closeupready]

42. Because 1) Jordan is a US state; and 2) killing killers makes us better people.

[bluestateguy]

45. Killing killers means they can't kill again.

Although, I would defer to the Jordanians if they want to retaliate on their own.

[closeupready]

48. Killing killers makes you a killer. Thus, we have Israel/Palestine.

And look how well that's been resolved by killing the killers who can't kill again. (Am I really debating this point with real people....???)

[Kurska]

62. Killing killers makes you a hero

And stops their killing

Guess, it would be better if we had just sat around and let the Nazi's do their work. Pacifism is the most naive thing in existence when applied universally in all situations. Violence isn't always the answer, but neither is offering your neck to to a butcher.

[closeupready]

64. You are on a completely different wavelength, but you have a right to your opinion.

I'm just going to agree to disagree with you. Cheers.

[Kurska]

34. Saw the video

Jordan is apparently going to execute all their ISIS prisoners by the end of the day. Frankly I don't blame them.

They'll play that video over and over again on state T.V they'll use it to whip their people into a bloodlust.

This might be the moves the signals the beginning of the end of ISIS. The Jordian army is one of the better ones in the region, at least on par with the Syrian army pre-civil war. They can do a lot of damage to ISIS.

[closeupready]

41. You don't blame them for collectively punishing en masse without due process.

Got it.

[Kurska]

61. ISIS wants to be a state

When states execute prisoners of other states states go to war.

Anytime anyone so much as wants to raise a fist against these monsters someone comes howling from the darkness about collective punishment.

Frankly, I'm bored of it. We can stand by and watch the slaughter or we can do something already. Westerners will accomplish nothing in the middle east by keyboards hand wringing every-time anyone tries to handle ISIS with anything besides kiddy gloves. If we refuse to, we might as well shut up up when it looks like a Middle Eastern state might finally.

[dionysus]

65. most anyone with morals thinks ISIS should be punished en masse... you want to

arrest all the ISIS members and put em on trial? good luck...

[closeupready]

66. Well, Nazis and anti-semites enjoyed punishing en masse.

I thought we were supposed to learn from history. Guess not, in your world.

[dionysus]

67. well, what would you do with ISIS? Talk them into stopping the massacre?

[closeupready]

68. As awful as ISIS (and its abuses) is, the execution of innocent Americans in US states is worse.

For example, Cameron Todd Willingham - who may not have been innocent, but whose case had a lot of anomalies which threw his guilt into doubt of a sufficient degree as to warrant a commutation to something less than capital punishment. But no. They went ahead anyway and killed him - just for the hell of it, I guess. Oh wait, I guess then-governor Rick Perry claimed that Willingham was a wife beater; therefore, what? Is the logic, 'he's been violent, so let's just whack him while we have the chance.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Todd_Willingham

Let's do something about this kind of thing FIRST, because if our resources are limited, then let's focus on matters where expending them is more likely to result in an improvement.

[dionysus]

69. so.. let ISIS run rampant and slaughter people.. because our justice system is

messed up. That makes a whooooole lot of sense...

for someone who professes such value of life, you don't give a damn about these terrorists killing THOUSANDS... astounding.

[closeupready]

70. Not our job.

[hrmjustin]

37. Evil barbaric bastards!

[Liberal_in_LA]

44. i saw the full video. the most barbaric thing ive seen in my life

The poor guy really suffered . Thank aged it seemed to be over in less than a minute

[Free Arab]

52. Awful

How can they be called people???

[gopiscrap]

60. Welcome to DU!

[Ilsa]

54. This story gets 3 Recs but there 50 f'g vaccine threads in GD.

I'm sick of wading through that shit over in GD.

As for ISIS: I hope we or Jordan blows them back to the Stone Age. And I hope it hurts.

[Glimmer of Hope]

58. How horrible can you be? Can someone please cut off their funding??