Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 11:21 PM Apr 2012

High-frequency trader Optiver pays $14 million in oil manipulation case

Source: Reuters

U.S. regulators claimed their first victory in a four-year old effort to crack down on oil market manipulation on Thursday, announcing a $14 million settlement with high-frequency trading firm Optiver.

In a ruling that came just two days after U.S. President Barack Obama proposed a renewed campaign against illegal oil trading schemes, the Amsterdam-based company agreed to disgorge $1 million in profits and pay a $13 million civil penalty over allegations it used a rapid-fire tool nicknamed "The Hammer" to influence U.S. oil prices in 2007.

It was the first case brought by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) in its 2008 effort to curb market malfeasance, launched as prices soared toward a record near $150 a barrel in the middle of that year.

The case alleged that traders in Optiver's Chicago office reaped a $1 million profit by engaging in a practice called "banging the close", in which the firm attempted to move U.S. oil prices by executing a large volume of deals during the final moments of trading.

Read more: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/high-frequency-trader-optiver-pays-023628616.html

16 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
High-frequency trader Optiver pays $14 million in oil manipulation case (Original Post) Newsjock Apr 2012 OP
Only about 899 of these assholes left. russspeakeasy Apr 2012 #1
Its freaking about time.... Historic NY Apr 2012 #2
Keep it up! McCamy Taylor Apr 2012 #3
That's great BUT it's a drop in the bucket. And I REALLY think the people involved need to gateley Apr 2012 #4
How much of this would it take eyewall Apr 2012 #5
Probably not much zipplewrath Apr 2012 #11
Rec. progressoid Apr 2012 #6
I don't know if it's a drop in the bucket or a major penalty KeepItReal Apr 2012 #7
I know it's not much, but at least it's a precedent. nt TrollBuster9090 Apr 2012 #8
Just the price of doing business. They should go to jail. Lint Head Apr 2012 #9
and, I bet, Optiver's profits were at least 10 times that intaglio Apr 2012 #10
This is huge and needed to be done siligut Apr 2012 #12
Now if we could only charge Mother Nature as well GliderGuider Apr 2012 #13
I bet this will get no media coverage and the average person will sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #14
BAN it COMPLETELY! benld74 Apr 2012 #15
They made $800 million that year, got fined $14 million = worthless political grandstanding just1voice Apr 2012 #16

russspeakeasy

(6,539 posts)
1. Only about 899 of these assholes left.
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 11:31 PM
Apr 2012

Fine them each the equivalent of $ 40 per barrel that they bought and/or sold. That should be about right.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
4. That's great BUT it's a drop in the bucket. And I REALLY think the people involved need to
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 12:17 AM
Apr 2012

be charged, too. I don't think pittance fines are going to curb this practice -- still too much money to be made.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
11. Probably not much
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 08:26 AM
Apr 2012

this kind of activity is intended to move VERY short term prices. In this case it was probably intended to create a small loss at the end of the day to ensure a large return on futures contracts. By sometime the next morning, the price had probably settled back down. You'd have to do this VERY frequently to have a sustained effect on the price of gasoline.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
7. I don't know if it's a drop in the bucket or a major penalty
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 12:42 AM
Apr 2012

But I appreciate the effort by the CFTC.

Need more of these...

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
10. and, I bet, Optiver's profits were at least 10 times that
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 02:49 AM
Apr 2012

none of these pirates will pay a blind bit of attention to this

siligut

(12,272 posts)
12. This is huge and needed to be done
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 08:38 AM
Apr 2012

Oil manipulation is just organized crime and Obama is doing something about it! Expect more to come, just like with Medicare fraud.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
13. Now if we could only charge Mother Nature as well
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 09:12 AM
Apr 2012

After all, she's the one keeping us from getting at all our rightful oil, with all this Peak Oil nonsense.

Seriously, the long-term effect of speculators like this doesn't amount to a pinch of squirrel crap next to the geological limits we've been up against for the last seven years.

sinkingfeeling

(51,454 posts)
14. I bet this will get no media coverage and the average person will
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 09:41 AM
Apr 2012

remain totally unaware of oil price manipulation.

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
16. They made $800 million that year, got fined $14 million = worthless political grandstanding
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 04:25 PM
Apr 2012

They should have been fined about $400 million and jailed to protect the public. Oops, I said "the public" as if we matter at all.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»High-frequency trader Opt...