Warning Graphic Photo: Possible New Evidence Shows George Zimmerman's Bloodied Head

[kpete]

Source: abc

Warning Graphic Photo: Possible New Evidence Shows George Zimmerman's Bloodied Head


The Story Here:

The revelation comes as his attorney and prosecutors prepare for Zimmerman's bail hearing today, which could result in his being released from a Florida jail. Zimmerman, 28, is being held on charges of second-degree murder for the Feb. 26 shooting of Martin, 17, which could carry a life sentence if he is convicted.

The exclusive image shows blood trickling down the back of Zimmerman's head from two cuts. It also shows a possible contusion forming on the crown of his head. The original police report that night notes that the back of Zimmerman's head was wet, and that he was bleeding from the nose and head.

Zimmerman told police that night that he shot and killed the teenager in self-defense after Martin punched him and pounced on him. Zimmerman told police that Martin then bashed his head into the concrete sidewalk during the altercation that took place in the tidy middle-class development of the Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, Fla.

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[hlthe2b]

1. Yeah... that looks nearly as fatal as that bullet in Trayvon's chest.

Children bleed more from a knee scrape on the sidewalk... They cry a few minutes, Mom cleans it and kissed them and all is well.

[BeGoodDoGood]

58. Zimmerman is Bound to Walk

They won't be able to prove that Martin didn't attack him.

And based on reasonable timing, Martin had time to get back to his place -before- Zimmerman had hung up with the
police. The defense will argue that he doubled back and attacked Zimmerman, and that may be exactly what happened.

It shouldn't even come to a trial.

Walt

[UnrepentantLiberal]

59. So you think Zimmerman is not guilty?

I sent an alert and checked TOS so you would come to the attention of the admins.

[BeGoodDoGood]

76. TOS Violation?

It's a TOS violation to disagree with you? How funny.


Yeah, I think the more I hear the more I think Martin approached and attacked Zimmerman just as Zimmerman said.

A person would be nuts to start a fist fight while you have a hand gun on you. The other person might grab it. The purpose of having a hand gun is to defuse and fend off dangerous situations. So I discount the idea that Zimmerman started a confrontation. If he wanted a confrontation, he’d have started one with his hand gun.

I think the evidence will show that Martin rushed Zimmerman from a distance, before Zimmerman could say he even had a hand gun. If Zimmerman had said, “Stay back, I have a hand gun,” Martin would still be alive.

Walt

[UnrepentantLiberal]

79. Well you can defend yourself here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/124079302

[obamanut2012]

88. His name was Trayvon

[olegramps]

63. You suppose a lot of things. Yeah, a kid with Ice Tea and Skettles is a real threat.

[Neue Regel]

99. Yep, classic he said/he said, but only one of them is around to tell us what was said

And the available physical evidence helps the defendant as well. There's no way they'll be able to prove Zimmerman is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. He's going to walk.

[crunch60]

104. And if he walks as you assume, he will have bars around him forever, just like

Ms. Casey Anthony, he will never be safe, always looking over his shoulder, yea, a real Bella Vita this self appointed terminator will have. So be it.

[crunch60]

102. Showing that wound isn't enough, need a face to go with it. More photos and X-rays please. nt

[crunch60]

103. Got it all figured hey, well, I think your blowing hot air!

[pennylane100]

2. So he has access to photoshop

And even if the photo were true, he was an armed stalker, he started the problem, Martin was just trying to "stand his ground". This photo does not mean shit. He should not have Kept his racist ass in the car like he was told.

[nxylas]

20. ABC showed the other Photoshopped picture of Zimmerman as well

The one where the wounds looked quite different to this one. ABC are worse than Fox News - at least everyone knows that the latter is a Republican propaganda outfit. ABC masquerades as a "proper" network.

[cigsandcoffee]

30. According to the video, the photo is date and time stamped with an iPhone 4.

Three minutes after the shooting. It doesn't absolve Zimmerman of his crime, but I doubt it's photoshopped.

[Horse with no Name]

34. But do we know that it IS Zimmerman?

Who took the photo? He didn't--he could never have got that angle.

Where is the photographer? He would have had to be a witness. Just saying...

[cigsandcoffee]

42. The GPS stamp says it was taken at the crime scene.

Could it all be fake or fabricated? I guess, but seems unlikely. The real question is whether it matters or not.

[Horse with no Name]

45. That may be so

They may be at the crime scene...but was it at the right time? Or did they set the phone to Central Standard Time and give themselves a couple of hours to play with?

Who knows and who knows if it will be able to be introduced...I think a good attorney could certainly have this propaganda shot thrown out--or take his phone and send it to a forensics expert to verify the time/position of the phone as being authentic.

But I certainly wouldn't accept it face value as truth.

[cigsandcoffee]

52. Why? If it is true, it doesn't hardly let him off the hook, does it?

No going after Trayvon, no blood on the head, no dead person.

[goclark]

86. If they took the photo at the crime scene

Zimmy sure does feel better fast!

He was walking around the police garage like he felt just fine.

Wouldn't the normal head still be seeing stars and hurting?

[southerncrone]

105. My question, too.

How do we know this is Z? Does the jacket collar match what he was wearing when he got out of the police car that night? I'll have to see that video again to compare them. Could also be self-inflicted when he realized what he'd done.

[csziggy]

98. Google "EXIF data editing" - you can find programs that make it easy to alter

The date, time, GPS and other data stored in a digital image. It may not be seamless to tools available to law enforcement, but for the average person it would make it appear that a picture was taken when and wherever you wanted them to think.

What is really interesting is the "3 minute" claim. According to the initial police report, the first officer was on scene less than a minute after the shot was fired and almost immediately had Zimmerman in custody. The second officer arrived two minutes after the first one and witnessed Zimmerman already in custody. Neither officer mentioned anyone at the scene in those first few minutes other than Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin.

So who was there to take that picture? Are the Sanford Police so incompetent to allow some random person into their crime scene, to interact with a suspect in custody and to observe the departed closely (since the same "witness" is claiming to have seen gun shot residue on Martin's hoodie)?

Add that all of that how pristine that blood is - for wounds supposedly gotten from having a head beaten against concrete repeatedly, that is a very clean and uncomplicated wound pattern. The dripping blood is not smeared at all, and has such a nice clear line at the top of the wound on the left.

I do agree with you - I don't think it's Photoshopped. I do think it's faked, though.

[crunch60]

108. Your right, that wound does not match the altercation Zimmerman alleged he had

with Martin. No bruising, no smeared dried blood? Cuts are to fresh and clean. Not buying this at all.

[crunch60]

107. Crime scene photographers don't use iPhones to document evidence.

[crunch60]

106. Any of Zimmerman's wounds would have to be documented in the ORIGINAL police report.

There should be many photo's taken at the crime scene, To show just the back of a head with some kind of red liquid on it, is just plain stupid, means nothing without the complete report.

[bigtree]

3. stalker/killer got a boo boo

ts; means very little in the overall case he has to make for why he stalked and shot an unarmed child.

[rsmith6621]

4. doesnt hold water....

there are million of blood vessels in the head that bleed like crazy when cut or scraped..... fact is he did not go to hospital and get professional care...GZ knew that medical staff would have said he was fine,blowing his defense that he was beaten by Martin.


and where did this wife come from

[Kali]

5. not much blood for a scalp wound

and I have seen a few. if that was from pavement it was a pretty minor scrape, however is does look real. such a tragedy for everybody.

[pasto76]

36. EXACTLY!!!!

Having received numerous scalp lacs in my life, and having inflicted a few, this is not a lot of blood. In all sincerity, Ive bled half that much from a black fly bite on my head.

Scalp lacerations bleed like crazy. This is not a lot of blood at all. If I was the medic attending him I would be like here's a band aid and keep it clean.

[HooptieWagon]

95. True.

I had a chunk of old rotten coral fall on my head while exploring a cliff in the Bahamas as a teen. There was a tremendous amount of blood.

[iverglas]

74. exactly

I had an Ikea mishap a few years ago, and ended up having a single stitch on the crown of my head to pull the edges of the short split in my scalp together. I had blood dripping down my face when it happened. Scalp wounds bleed profusely, no matter how small and insignificant.

(The doctor doing the stitch casually enquired whether I was married, and I was about to put him in his place and tell him what was his business and what wasn't, when I realized we were doing the battered-wife questionnaire. Nobody seemed to think that one could split the top of one's scalp open by tipping the flat side of a Billy bookcase over onto one's head. I protested perhaps too much that no, no, I had done this to myself ...)

[annabanana]

6. If someone had a gun drawn on ME

I sure as hell would do as much damage as humanly possible to keep that muzzle pointed some other way. Why is damage to Zimmerman so exculpatory?

[marshall gaines]

18. exactly

I concur, but if it had been me, I would be in jail now. I think the kid was fighting for his life against a person stalking and harassing him.

[GOTV]

37. It helps to support (though it doesn't prove) GZ's version of the story

Earlier evidence seemed to show that GZ suffered none of the damage he claimed or that would be expected if he was being beaten. This picture, if authentic, shows that he may in fact have been in a fight. Of course he could have also taken a step back in the dark, caught his heel on something and fell backwards onto the sidewalk and banged his head.

So from GZ's perspective this picture helps his case. I don't know if it's a little or a lot.

On how much damage you would do to a person holding a gun on you... I think it all depends on the circumstances. If you were 20 feet away when the gun was pointed at you your reaction might be much different then if you two were in arms reach of each other. In most cases you'd have to be a idiot to charge a man holding a gun on you.

If GZ was looking to use his gun I don't think it would be likely that he'd let TM get very close. TM may have surprised him or they may have surprised each other coming around a corner.

[JDPriestly]

54. It supports the claim that there was a struggle. But the witnesses saw

the struggle, so the photo does not change the evidence we already have. The photo, however, does show that the injuries are slight and could have occurred in a number of ways. The injuries show that Zimmerman's head was rubbed against something that cut it, but does not show that he was hit. The injuries to his nose and bleeding from there might suggest that he was hit. The medical reports will indicate how serious his injuries were.

[WI_DEM]

7. Dammit!! Who brought this thing on--that is the question!

It was this GD ass George Zimmerman, wanting to prove he was a big man, who pursued somebody breaking no laws at all and then confronted him and when this kid might have 'stood his ground' that weasel Zimmerman shot him.

Poor Trayvon Martin can't defend himself from beyond the grave--the grave that Zimmerman sent him to.

[NCcoast]

23. Exactly

Zimmerman was the aggressor. Trayvon Martin had every right to be where he was and he wasn't doing anything wrong. Zimmerman had no legal authority to detain or question Martin. Martin had every reason to be suspicious of Zimmerman's aggressive behavior and his death is testimony to that fact.

And I agree with fascisthunter below. When has the media ever worked so hard to protect a viscous fool and murderer like Zimmerman.

Through ALEC corporations and right wing groups like the NRA have attempted to ushered in an acceptance of vigilante justice along with an expanded police state. It's time to take the country back from these militant fools.

[HughBeaumont]

8. Right, and Zimmerman walked into the police station with his wits about him and coherent.

And Trayvon Martin is DEAD.

Being on the wrong end of a scuffle doesn't warrant shooting a kid dead.

[fascisthunter]

9. I've Never Seen a System and the Media bend Over Backwards to protect a murderer

this country is sick

[zeemike]

12. That is my opinion too.

And sometimes I think the sickness is deliberately caused...they want to turn us all into a bunch of sick fucks.

[fascisthunter]

14. Look how they prop-up Sarah Palin????

for what exactly? To decensitize America to the right wing extremist ideology. They ain't fooling me one bit. The media is corrupt and now a political arm of the right.

[truebrit71]

22. That's the part that confirms (to me) that the M$M is 100% in the bag for the gop...

...anyone with any common sense knows that Palin and her ilk are pathological liars, grifters and opportunists that make ZERO sense on any of the issues, yet they continue to prop her, and others like her, up...In fact, they do more than that, they go as far as to try and portray their radical, hateful positions as 'reasonable' or a 'decent alternative' to reality...

I'm not just talking about disagreeing with someone because their opinions differ from yours, I am talking about the entire media backing-up/covering for someone when they say the political equivalent of "water isn't wet".

My sincerest desire is that the President is re-elected in November (even though he is far too centrist for my liking), but I am not so naive as to think that they won't try and steal it (again) as they have done in the past...all the M$M has to do is make it look as though it's going to be close, and then Diebold can do it's magic again...

We HAVE to get out the vote, and we HAVE to push back at the whores in the media as well as their masters in the Corporate Boardrooms across the country...

It ain't gonna be easy, and not much is riding on it, just the social safety net, the constitution and the entire future of the Republic...

[chervilant]

32. As I noted on another OP:

Watch the M$M as we get closer to November. Has anyone else noticed the 'polls' they've been reporting lately, alleging that 46% of those polled would vote for Obama AND 46% of those polled would vote for Romney? Eventually, when the Corporate Megalomaniacs rig the election for the outcome they prefer, they can assert that the race was just too close to call.

[zeemike]

62. You got it.

And their will be nothing we can do about it...because they control the media and the information...and the democrat leadership will just roll over and be rewarded for it.
The system is corrupt and we are fools if we believe that we will receive fair results.

[juajen]

89. Yep, that is what they are doing now. There is no way that this election is as close

as they are portraying it. If our people in congress had fought harder for reform, this wouldn't be so easy for the pugs. Just goes to show you, sometimes you get what you deserve. Of course, other times, you just get blindsided or killed. This outcome was what scared me about Obama getting elected in the first place. He had to be naive about the corruption or complicit. I have come to like him and his adorable family a lot, so I will believe that he was naive. Of course, I didn't see Hillary doing a lot about either stolen presidential election either. What do we make of this fiasco?

[truebrit71]

19. I am just blown away by it...I was watching ABC's morning show this am and my jaw literally dropped

..as I listened to the Zimmerman apologists going at it, full tilt...And don't even get me started about their anti-Obama bias...

I just don't get it...is racism 'de rigeur' now?

[fascisthunter]

21. the media is right wing.... look at the ownership and their investments

they are far from liberal and far from sympathetic to populism or the democratic platform for representing people EQUALLY. They are the 1%.

[crunch60]

109. The talking heads on the MSM, say exactly what their corporate overlords want

them to say Can you say Rupert Murdoch, Koch Brothers, etc. Control the media, control the people, just like Joseph Goebbels said. Carl Rove very good at that kind of propaganda as well.

[olegramps]

67. Sorry to say it but, racism was and continues to enjoy robust health.

[Blue_Tires]

24. +1000

[harun]

85. It's sick

[sarcasmo]

10. I wouldn't want to be in Sanford if he gets released, the chaos will begin.

[Catherine Vincent]

11. That's graphic?

It's only blood from some small wound that has healed. Show us Martin's wounds. Now that's GRAPHIC.

[Deuce]

13. What about Trayvon's cries for help...

I believe I read somewhere that Trayvon was crying for help approximately 17 seconds before being shot and killed.

[Horse with no Name]

35. Exactly. You can't plead for your life and pound the shit out of someone

at the same time.

The exertion and the breathlessness would be a dead giveaway of a struggle.

I didn't hear that.

Honestly? I wouldn't even bet money that this is Zimmerman and I know a lot of folks that could change the time on an I-Phone.

Blood doesn't just STOP....it would have kept running down his back and neck. This is just too NEAT and I have seen lots of head trauma...it just doesn't happen this way.

[tdb63]

15. If I was being stalked

by a guy with a gun through my neighborhood, I would jump him from behind, sucker punch him and take him down too. Martin was 'Standing his ground', unfortunately he didn't have a weapon. Zimmerman was flat out stalking and profiling.

[deutsey]

46. Yep...if this is legit, it wouldn't have happened, George,

if you had just stayed your dumb ass in your car and let the police do their job (of course, it's debateable that you should've even called 911 in the first place).

Oh, and Trayvon would still be alive, too.

[Schema Thing]

16. "Warning- graphic photo"?? Really? wtf is wrong with you?

[marshall gaines]

17. photoshopped

photo shopped and he's going to be released today and eventually be freed by a jury of his peers. And I'm really interested to see the jury makeup. The media is going to protect this guy and project his 'innocence' all over the world. god bless america

[AlbertCat]

25. Not much blood for the head.

Pretty superficial wounds. (and yelling "photoshopped!" just sounds dumb, BTW)

It still does not negate the fact that he shot Trayvon DEAD. Why was there an altercation in the 1st place? Not because of an unarmed kid with Skittles walking thru the neighborhood. Zimmerman started the whole thing, nourished it, and finished it. These are facts known by everyone. There's still the question: Why is Trayvon dead and who is RESPONSIBLE for his death. That's what the courts must decide. Not whether Trayvon defended himself (unsuccessfully)

[renate]

91. +1000000000000000

How come everybody isn't LOL-ing about Zimmerman's "Stand your ground" defense when it was Trayvon who had the right to defend himself against an attacker? There's audiotape of Zimmerman going after him, for heaven's sake--HE STARTED IT. He was going after Trayvon. If Trayvon did defend himself by throwing a punch or whatever Zimmerman is crying about, he certainly had more right to do so than Zimmerman.

[LynneSin]

26. So show us the hospital record

If the guy had that major of a trauma to the brain there should have been some hospital or doctor record somewhere to show they checked up on this stuff.

[marshall gaines]

28. hope

I hope the Martin family lawyer(s) are competent. Does the Southern Poverty Law Center provide legal help in cases such as this?

[bahrbearian]

27. Now show a picture of wound without the blood.

I don't see the wound in that picture, that could be Travons blood.

[firehorse]

29. Skittles bag must have given him a paper-cut.

[marshall gaines]

31. look right

looking at this photo over and over, just looks contrived.

[FarLeftFist]

33. Fakest blood streaks ever.

[Horse with no Name]

39. There is NO blood on the inside of the collar

There would be...blood doesn't just STOP running...especially from a head wound and especially 3 minutes afterward. Not only that...anyone who has ever treated head wounds after a fight...it is too CLEAN. Too tidy. Too neat. NOBODY bleeds this way.

Not saying it was photoshopped...but not sure they didn't hire a makeup artist before their photo session.

[JDPriestly]

55. The cuts may be quite superficial. The medical report should say though it may not.

[Crowman1979]

38. Looks like he just poured some fake blood on himself at an undisclosed location.

[DallasNE]

40. ABC Will Regret This Article

Everything about this story looks and sounds phoney. First, this is a crime scene. Some stranger would not have easy access to Zimmerman where Zimmerman would have been able to give his phone number and a message for his wife. What expertise does this person have to identify powder burns, especially since Martin was lying face down.

All of the evidence of bleeding here is from a standing position with the head tilted. How realistic is that? Plus, the most visable injury is from a straight line. The head pounded into the sidewalk would show puffing and an area injury rather than a line injury.

The earlier attempts to show injury by enhancing the photos at the police station showed the "injuries" to be on a different part of the head.

Where was ABC New's bullshit detector while talking to this person. The powder burns comment should have set off all kinds of alarm bells right up front. Plus, they didn't seem to ask him any kind of meaningful questions anyway.

[saras]

41. The event happened long ago. ANY "new" evidence is, by definition, false

What this is, is another bit of evidence that Zimmerman just won't quit lying until the trial is over.

[slackmaster]

61. No evidence has been submitted to a court of law yet

Everything we've been told about the incident doesn't amount to a hill of beans, legally.

[EC]

43. Doesn't mean a thing without witnesses

it was raining and the grass was slick - he could have fallen while running after Trayvon. Who knows? Doesn't prove anything.

See the funny thing is, the funeral director that prepped Trayvon's body - said no bruised knuckles or other wounds. I guess Trayvon could have pushed Zimmerman since that would be using palms and therefore no bruising or wounds...but that is a DEFENSIVE move.

[Smilo]

44. I smell bull shit

if he was bleeding like that, but supposedly refused the paramedics - how was he able to clean himself up between put in the police car and arriving at the police station.

Contusion ? - another name for a bruise and they don't form that quickly and definitely aren't yellow to begin with.

[Horse with no Name]

48. Good catch

I didn't catch the yellow...that is a healing bruise.

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[GETPLANING]

47. Trayvon Martin was defending himself against an armed thug.

That's all this proves.

[bobbyblack]

49. Why is this even a relevant thing?

Zimmerman instigated the chase, the confrontation and then killed a guy who was the VICTIM of aggression the VICTIM of racial profiling and then the VICTIM of a murderous, racist, "coon" hating vigilante who was told to STAND DOWN by the cops and disobeyed and engaged a scared kid who was being chased down by said vigilante...Zimmerman is lucky it wasn't me...i would have knocked him out, and then found that gun on his person and he would have needed it surgically removed from his nether regions.

[GeorgeGist]

50. my first reaction ...

[targetpractice]

51. Vampire Blood...

[oilpro2]

53. Several things wrong with the blood flow in that picture

There is blood evidently flowing from two separate scratch or scrape wounds, both of which originate in virtually on a horizontal angle. As we know, about a half hour later, there was this person\\\'s head walking into the police station, not at all disoriented, and showing no blood on his clothing. These scrape wounds to his head, if that had happened less than an hour before, were obviously inconsequential, and all bleeding had stopped, all visible blood was cleaned away, remarkably without any arriving on his clothing.

There is no blood whatsoever going UP from the wounds, so we can assume that the highest line point of blood is where the scratch or scrape originates. And I say scratch or scrape, because they obviously were minor enough in nature as to not require immediate examination by a doctor.

BUT:

Blood from one wound flows down and to the left, blood from the other wound flows down and to the right.

How does THAT happen? Blood, like water, flows in the most direct direction toward lower elevations, DOWN!

So are these two separate wounds, at two separate times, when GZ was lying in two different positions when he got two scratches or scrapes.

Also: why did it take 50+ days for a photo from an anonymous photographer to just mysteriously \\\"appear\\\", not in public record, but on the American fascist Broadcasting Network?

[mimitabby]

56. whose blood is it?

i don't see a cut.

[solarman350]

57. this phony, trick-or-treating wound tells us how desperate and sociopathic zimmerman REALLY is

and that very likely won't be lost on those who've put a bounty on him. Not a threat. Just my tea leaves reading for this morning.

[happerbolic]

60. I've had paper cuts...

...bleed out more than this.

dude could have even scratched his head, after the fact, with any old thing to achieve this pathetic result

[d06204]

64. What up with the constant "WARNING GRAPHIC

images?" I see this a lot. What? Are we suppose to be a bunch of pussies that can't stand the sight of blood? Damn!

I guess in the end, one man's "graphic images" is another man's "ho-hum."

[FiveGoodMen]

65. And yet none of this show in the police station video

Must have been a miracle.

[These Eyes]

66. Something doesn't look right to me...

I'm no blood pattern expert, but something doesn't look right about the way the blood is dripping. Also, is GZ balding? It didn't look like he was balding in the police surveilance video, nor does it appear that way in any of the other photos I've seen of him. Maybe it looks that way because his hair is close-cropped. Anyway, something stilll doesn't look right.

[Snake Alchemist]

68. this trial is going to be fascinating. nt

[leveymg]

69. Look again at the original PD video, 1:03-1:06 - there is no mark on the back of his head.

[fascisthunter]

70. it's creepy to see what lengths FL is going through to absolve this freak of murder

says a lot about those involved.

[leveymg]

73. It's ABC that seems to be the source of phony photos. Ministry of Truth stuff.

I say again, there is not a mark on his head in the original video. Note that the AP "Raw Video" version posted at YouTube (below) is time-edited to cut out the segment where the back of Z's (unblemished) head in clearest view.

For me, that's the most significant story here - the deliberate changing of history and photographic evidence by corporate mass media.

[sgsmith]

72. Look again.

1:07 in your linked video, vertically in line with the front tire of the motorcycle.

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[leveymg]

75. Look at the entire sequence. 1:03-1:08

I see at 1:07 something that appears to be a momentary (less than 1 second) folding of the skin (like a furrowing of the brow) directly center of his cranium as he leans forward to walk toward the door. It might also be a fleeting reflection off his bald head. There is no sign of the "second wound" (right hemisphere) indicated in the "bloody head" photo. Look at the photo again, and then rerun the video in maximum magnification.

I do NOT see any sign of a wound, redness, a contusion, an abrasion or anything else consistent with the blood shown in the still photo. Those would still be visible 15 minutes after a bloody head-bashing. There's also no sign of a bloodied, broken nose. Finally, if he was indeed treated, he'd still have bandages.

[Ghost of Tom Joad]

77. Maybe it was flavored ice tea that Treyvon was carrying and somehow it

spilled onto the back of Zimms head.

[leveymg]

78. Or else, it's Treyvon's blood. eom

[notadmblnd]

80. How does anyone know that's zimmermann?

[leveymg]

82. We don't, but the head and jacket are similar.

[Vincardog]

81. Funny that the police video taken 40 minutes after the act show NOTHING. nt

[pnwmom]

83. As I've said since the beginning, if you're allowed to stand your ground with a gun

why aren't you allowed to stand your ground with your fists?

If Trayvon pushed his stalker away -- causing him to fall -- or even punched him, that would be justified, IMHO.

[slackmaster]

84. Florida's SYG law does not specifically mention firearms

The issue is "defensive force," which can certainly include blows from fists.

[Devil_Fish]

96. SYG law only applies to non-blacks.

[2Design]

87. if someone is stalking you - like zimmermans was - then of course the other person will fight back

he was told not to pursue anything that happened after is his own damn fault - guilty as charged

[iamthebandfanman]

90. I would have bashed his head into the ground too..

if he had been following me with a loaded gun, harrasing me, trying to start a fight.

all this is proof of is that Martin fought back, which anyone would have done if engaged in a fight for your life.

[KathieG]

92. Look closely at the top of his head

it was definitely "filled in" with skin-tone color using photo shop or a similar program, you can see the edges. Question is, why? If one area of the photo is clearly tampered with, I have to dismiss the entire photo as fake.

[Thor_MN]

93. IMO, that doesn't look like "head banging against the sidwalk"

It looks more like "Oh shit, I just killed this kid!!" while forget you were still holding a handgun. The big question would be is if Zimmerman's blood was on the frame of the 9MM.

[slackmaster]

97. The horizontal cut could be the result of a light curb-stomping

Or something else entirely.

[grasswire]

94. I got that same trickle effect on an Easter egg days ago

I dripped a bit of red dye on the wet shell of an egg. The dye trickled this way and that down the egg -- just like the trickle pattern in this photo.

[Blue_Tires]

100. I've got a lot of questions that still aren't answered

1. Who took the photo, and exactly when? (Don't give me any of this "unnamed neighbor" bullshit--This case has been tainted enough with all the speculative leaps and outright fabrications attributed to "unnamed neighbors)...And what is this person's relationship to Zimmerman?

2. When exactly was this photo turned over to investigators, and are there any others taken that night? Are there at least any frontal shots that can prove it really is Zimmerman? Was there any video taken that night? How did it come into ABC's hands, and what took them so long to run with it?

3. Three minutes after shooting someone, who in their right minds turns to a neighbor and says "Dude! Take a photo of the back of my head, please?" And why are police allowing some stranger to contaminate the crime scene?

4. When does ABC news get called on the fucking carpet for their irresponsibility?? First they "enhance and filter" the police station video and find their magical "possible wounds and/or contusions", and now this...I've worked in media, and I've never, ever seen a news organization of this stature go full retard on speculation..."We think XXX in this photo could possibly be ____..." IS NOT GODDAMNED NEWS! If you can't say for sure, find someone who can tell you for sure...Otherwise, it's NOT something you run with! It's like no one ever took a journalism ethics class in college...

[Weare0ne]

101. Losing Focus

This is starting to lose focus. Instead of looking at the big picture (kid shot on way home from store) .. gun control. Instead somehow this got hijacked and molded by the police into a racial incident. The cops who showed up were the same cops Zimmerman last year accused of covering up a racial attack by a son of a high ranking police officer.

I think the cops wanted pay back and also to steer debate away from gun control, so they painted Zimmerman as a racist. The more I am looking at this, the more I am seeing problems with the police department down there.

Something isn't right.

The two cops he accused last year of racism, went to community churches, printed and spread fliers against them, worked with Hispanic and African American community leaders, and now all of a sudden these same two cops vindicate him?

Mark my words; there is something deep behind this that stinks.