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Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 03:05 PM Mar 2015

First on CNN: Feds prepare criminal corruption charges against Senator Bob Menendez

Source: CNN

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Washington (CNN)The Justice Department is preparing to bring criminal corruption charges against New Jersey Sen. Robert Menendez, alleging he used his Senate office to push the business interests of a Democratic donor and friend in exchange for gifts.

People briefed on the case say Attorney General Eric Holder has signed off on prosecutors' request to proceed with charges, CNN has learned exclusively. An announcement could come within weeks. Prosecutors are under pressure in part because of the statute of limitation on some of the allegations.

The case could pose a high-profile test of the Justice Department's ability to prosecute sitting lawmakers, having already spawned a legal battle over whether key evidence the government has gathered is protected by the Constitution's Speech and Debate clause.

The FBI and prosecutors from the Justice Department's public integrity section, have pursued a variety of allegations against Menendez, who has called the probe part of "smear campaign" against him.

Former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell arrives at his corruption trial in Richmond, Virginia, on Thursday, September 4. A jury convicted McDonnell and his wife, Maureen, on charges related to influence peddling, concluding a sometimes dramatic trial and derailing the political ambitions of the one-time rising star in the Republican Party.

The government's case centers on Menendez's relationship with Salomon Melgen, a Florida ophthalmologist who the senator has called a friend and political supporter. Melgen and his family have been generous donors to the senator and various committees the senator is associated with.

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Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/06/politics/robert-menendez-criminal-corruption-charges-planned/



Something about a quid pro quo relationship with a Florida opthamologist.

If there's any Senate Dem I'd like to see go down in flames, it's this guy.
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First on CNN: Feds prepare criminal corruption charges against Senator Bob Menendez (Original Post) Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 OP
Innocent until proven guilty but I can't stand him. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #1
Well...bye.... TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #2
If Menendez is forced out won't Christie name a replacement? groundloop Mar 2015 #3
Yes and an election will occur in the fall of 2016 to complete the term. Dawson Leery Mar 2015 #5
Unfortunately, yes karynnj Mar 2015 #7
It looks like there would have to be a special election starroute Mar 2015 #8
But can't Menendez simply announce his retirement and continue to serve until the election is held? StevieM Mar 2015 #13
No... because the special election won't be until Nov 2016 FBaggins Mar 2015 #23
An ironic twist of fate - Menendez could be forced out for doing exactly... George II Mar 2015 #14
So the pig Wilson gets a pass from the DOJ GuntherGebelWilliams Mar 2015 #4
Yeah. Because Holder loves racist cops and hates Democratic senators. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #6
Thank you. nt babylonsister Mar 2015 #19
Two totally unrelated cases/situations, but.... George II Mar 2015 #15
The Feds weren't able to charge Wilson bc SCOTUS gutted civil rights law.. Cha Mar 2015 #29
And after edhopper Mar 2015 #9
One does not have to be stupid in order to be corrupt. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2015 #10
HEY - Christie IS protected. As NJ US Att. he Bribed former USAG Ashcroft laserhaas Mar 2015 #12
Those investigations are not over (not familiar with the Exxon settlement), I'm sure there will be.. George II Mar 2015 #16
That is a story that just came out this week edhopper Mar 2015 #17
We've been working to get this tool - for YEARS.. Thanks for this update laserhaas Mar 2015 #11
K&R...Thanks for posting, Comrade Grumpy red dog 1 Mar 2015 #18
The Stink seems strong in this one..... DeSwiss Mar 2015 #20
HA Ha.... can I use this pic...Like on the tool down south who voted for XL and against ACA laserhaas Mar 2015 #26
What a jerkoff. BlueStater Mar 2015 #21
It's a shame he's still here. Hope it works, this time. Thank you, Comrade Grumpy. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2015 #22
So long. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2015 #24
Hey...may I suggest you shorten your title for Twitter laserhaas Mar 2015 #25
Recommending for Transparency... Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #27
Sen. Robert Menendez to address expected federal corruption charges tonight Judi Lynn Mar 2015 #28
I haven't kept up with the Menendez story... NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #30

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
7. Unfortunately, yes
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 03:42 PM
Mar 2015

The appointee would then have to run in 2016. That should favor a Democrat as it is a Presidential year. However, if Christie were to nominate a moderate Republican, who the Republicans with their majority give plenty of room to vote with the Democrats - think Scott Brown when representing MA, this could be a longer term loss.

One possibility is Kean jr - sone of former governor Kean, who ran a weak campaign against Menendez in 2006 - mostly accusing him of fraud that was never proven. It was federal prosecutor Chris Christie who was "investigating it" http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/nyregion/08truth.html His father is well liked - the local Morris County paper actually endorsed him because he might end up being like his dad!. Assuming Kean would not call his opponent a fake Indian and show himself as mean spirited, he might win as an incumbent. looking at the wiki bio, Christie tried to remove him as minority leader. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Kean,_Jr.)

Another mess that NJ has Corzine to thank for. Menendez was appointed by Corzine when Corzine moved from the Senate to the Governorship in 2005. In both 2006 and 2012, he was not all that popular in NJ.

Obviously this is putting the cart before the horse. It will be ironic if there is really a quid por quo here - because this accusation was made in 2012 as the election was on going, but the Republicans went with more sensational - completely discredited - accusations of prostitutes in the Dominican Republic. I wish I could say that I am as convinced that this will fall apart as well.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
8. It looks like there would have to be a special election
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 03:43 PM
Mar 2015

And that Christie could appoint an interim replacement until then.

But it also seems that for the special election to be called for this November, the vacancy would have to occur more than 30 days before this June's primary. If it doesn't, the interim appointment would last until November 2016.

At least, that's how I read it.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vacancies-in-the-united-states-senate.aspx

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
13. But can't Menendez simply announce his retirement and continue to serve until the election is held?
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 04:10 PM
Mar 2015

That's what happened in Oklahoma back in 1994 when Dave Boren announced his early retirement and there was a special election between James Inhofe and Dave McCurdy.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
23. No... because the special election won't be until Nov 2016
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 05:30 PM
Mar 2015
That's what happened in Oklahoma back in 1994 when Dave Boren announced his early retirement

Boren wasn't facing a possible prosecution and Senate investigation. I doubt that Senate Republicans will hold off on hearings for long if a prosecution becomes likely.

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. An ironic twist of fate - Menendez could be forced out for doing exactly...
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 04:14 PM
Mar 2015

...what Christie has been doing with Jerry Jones of the Cowboys. And Christie would appoint his replacement?

 
4. So the pig Wilson gets a pass from the DOJ
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 03:21 PM
Mar 2015

But Holder goes after a Democratic Senator?

Is it any wonder why the rethugs are in no hurry to confirm his replacement?

George II

(67,782 posts)
15. Two totally unrelated cases/situations, but....
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 04:16 PM
Mar 2015

...if the facts of the two cases are as presented, as repulsive as what Wilson did, he did not violate the letter of any Federal law, but Menendez may have.

Cha

(297,304 posts)
29. The Feds weren't able to charge Wilson bc SCOTUS gutted civil rights law..
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 08:50 PM
Mar 2015

from the link..

"Brown had the right to “life itself,” too. Wilson took it away—and there’s almost nothing the federal government can do about it. The KKK began its reign of terror in 1865. The brutal Selma assault on civil rights protesters occurred in 1965. And in 2014, we still don’t have a federal law to protect unarmed black boys from getting gunned down by cops in the street."

Pretty Foot @PrettyFootWoman
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Feds can’t charge Darren Wilson because the Supreme Court gutted civil rights law. By @mjs_DC http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/11/will_justice_department_charge_darren_wilson_supreme_court_gutted_civil.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_bot … via @slate

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http://theobamadiary.com/2015/02/25/a-tweet-or-two-248/

I'm posting this around a few times for those who make comments like this about AG Holder..

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
9. And after
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 03:43 PM
Mar 2015

the GW Bridge and Sandy money and the pension scandal and the Exxon settlement, Christie is untouched.
WTF?

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
12. HEY - Christie IS protected. As NJ US Att. he Bribed former USAG Ashcroft
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 04:01 PM
Mar 2015

Christie-gate(S) are many..

M A N Y!


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I've been on this tool arse since 2007, where he used a fraudster funded with $50,000 per month (during the firing of 8 U.S. Attorneys who refused to do Karl Rove's bidding of prosecuting Democrats/rig elections) - as the fraud guy went around giving money to people running for elections.

All the prosecutions (except 1) failed - but the rig of elections - WORKED!

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Then U.S. Attorney Chris Christie gave his former boss (U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft) and another USA (Debra Yang) a $50 Million - NO BID contract - labeled as a Deferred Prosecution Agreement.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/10/washington/10justice.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


Prior to the GWB era - you knew a more proper vernacular for payment of millions, to a federal prosecutor party - to DEFER a prosecution...

It's called - BRIBERY

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. Those investigations are not over (not familiar with the Exxon settlement), I'm sure there will be..
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 04:17 PM
Mar 2015

...charges for the first three.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
11. We've been working to get this tool - for YEARS.. Thanks for this update
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 03:55 PM
Mar 2015

Just spent hours a day ago, talking about this and others.

NO Democrat/Progressive is a pedophile. This was a wolf in sheep clothing - Pure and Simple!

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
26. HA Ha.... can I use this pic...Like on the tool down south who voted for XL and against ACA
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 06:25 PM
Mar 2015

What a wonderful/ apropos - pic

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
21. What a jerkoff.
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 04:54 PM
Mar 2015

Thanks for the negative press for the Democratic party AND for throwing your senate seat away to yet another Republican, you asshole.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
25. Hey...may I suggest you shorten your title for Twitter
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 06:22 PM
Mar 2015

Take out first on CNN and shorten Senator to Sen.

so it fits....

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
27. Recommending for Transparency...
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 06:31 PM
Mar 2015

I really don't want any crooks on the Hill, even if they're on our side.

I hope justice, whichever way it goes, is served.

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
28. Sen. Robert Menendez to address expected federal corruption charges tonight
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 06:55 PM
Mar 2015

Sen. Robert Menendez to address expected federal corruption charges tonight

March 6, 2015, 2:21 PM Last updated: Friday, March 6, 2015, 5:35 PM
By HERB JACKSON
Washington Correspondent | The Record

Sen. Bob Menendez has called a news conference for this evening to answer reports the Justice Department is preparing criminal corruption charges against him over official actions he took related to the business interests of a friend and major campaign contributor, Salomon Melgen.

Attorney General Eric Holder signed off on charging Menendez, according to people briefed on the case, CNN and several other news outlets confirmed.

A spokesman for the Justice Department would not confirm or deny the report when contacted by The Record. Holder, who was traveling with President Obama in South Caroline, also declined to comment when approached by a reporter in the White House press pool.

Menendez will talk to the press at 7 p.m. His spokeswoman, Tricia Enright, said that all of the senator’s actions "have been appropriate and lawful and the facts will ultimately confirm that."

More:
http://www.northjersey.com/news/sen-robert-menendez-to-address-expected-federal-corruption-charges-tonight-1.1284145

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
30. I haven't kept up with the Menendez story...
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 05:14 PM
Mar 2015

but if he's corrupt I want him out. As taxpayers we have the right to demand integrity from anyone whose salary we pay.

It's just sadly ironic that if he gets the boot that asshat Christie will name his replacement.

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