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brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 03:27 PM Mar 2015

Congressman wants 24-year marriage annulled, says wife, Lolita, is a bigamist

Source: WJLA

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) - An outspoken liberal congressman from Florida will argue in court Monday that his 24-year marriage should be annulled because his estranged wife committed bigamy, the opening salvo in an acrimonious divorce case a judge likened to an episode of the TV series "House of Cards."

Rep. Alan Grayson says his wife, Lolita, was still married to Robert Carson when she and the multimillionaire congressman married in 1990 in Virginia. Grayson, a Democrat and highly successful trial lawyer, said the marriage to Carson wasn't dissolved until 1994 in Broward County, Florida.

But Lolita Grayson says she divorced Carson in Guam in 1981, and she disputes that she was divorced in Broward County. She also said she isn't the "Lolita B. Carson" cited in a dissolution of marriage final judgment that Alan Grayson, 56, says is proof that she was still married to Carson when they wed. Neither side has found Carson.

If the marriage is annulled, Alan Grayson would avoid having the court divide personal property or decide whether he owes Lolita Grayson alimony. In court papers, Lolita Grayson puts her husband's worth at $31 million.

Read more: http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/03/congressman-wants-24-year-marriage-annulled-says-wife-lolita-is-a-bigamist-112087.html

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Congressman wants 24-year marriage annulled, says wife, Lolita, is a bigamist (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2015 OP
Something along the lines of Turbineguy Mar 2015 #1
Should be pretty easy for her to Sherman A1 Mar 2015 #2
Boy, this is ugly. Can't believe Rep. Grayson keeps dragging this out so publicly Dems to Win Mar 2015 #3
Yup. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #4
I suspect the law is on his side Aerows Mar 2015 #5
So you think a multimillionaire frazzled Mar 2015 #6
I think you just brought Aerows Mar 2015 #8
If they were never legally married... NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #10
Doesn't matter if the law is on his side, he looks bad fighting so acrimoniously with the mother of Dems to Win Mar 2015 #7
I'm not married to either one of them. Aerows Mar 2015 #11
Divorce is a nasty process. If you are considering it, please take a couple of weeks off work. JDPriestly Mar 2015 #19
This is more like Henry the VIII dixiegrrrrl Mar 2015 #12
Grayson is committing political suicide. BillZBubb Mar 2015 #9
+1 demigoddess Mar 2015 #25
Who in his right mind gets involved with a woman named Lolita? Joe Johns Mar 2015 #13
such a guy thing. mopinko Mar 2015 #14
This is unbelievably ugly. Certainly not a liberal thing to do to his wife. JDPriestly Mar 2015 #20
no doubt. not anything that bears on his actions, tho. mopinko Mar 2015 #22
Recent photo of Grayson's aspirations for national office RufusTFirefly Mar 2015 #15
Congressman wants 24-year marriage annulled, says wife, Lolita, is a bigamist Catherine Gross Mar 2015 #16
I bet there's a lot of things you just cannot agree with Skittles Mar 2015 #24
Am I the only one to say if you try to marry someone named Lolita you get what is coming? AngryAmish Mar 2015 #17
As much as I love Alan Grayson, he certainly makes it hard to defend him with all the side issues... marble falls Mar 2015 #18
Dunno how much of the ugliness is his fault, and perhaps we're not entitled to know. n/t Orsino Mar 2015 #26
I agree 100%. marble falls Mar 2015 #27
Divorce is ugly. nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #21
After she accused him of domestic abuse CC Mar 2015 #23
I feel for the kids too. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #31
A LOT OF JUDGEMENT GOING ON HERE ABOUT GREYSON. rgbecker Mar 2015 #28
He is exceptional in that capacity, isn't he? Judi Lynn Mar 2015 #29
if he wants this ugliness to end, just pay her half wordpix Mar 2015 #30
If she's been committing fraud since the beginning, dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #32

Turbineguy

(37,331 posts)
1. Something along the lines of
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 03:32 PM
Mar 2015

"Who will rid me of this turbulent Priest?"

Repubs would love to get rid of Grayson.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
2. Should be pretty easy for her to
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 03:41 PM
Mar 2015

document if the divorce took place as she stated in 1981. There is that thing called dissolution of marriage paperwork and all.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
3. Boy, this is ugly. Can't believe Rep. Grayson keeps dragging this out so publicly
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 03:58 PM
Mar 2015

I agree with the judge, a quiet settlement would be best for all parties, especially the children. And Alan's political reputation.

quote from linked article:

Attorneys at the hearing suggested that politics, in part, may be preventing any effort to reach a quiet, confidential settlement that the judge hinted is the best option for both Graysons.
"When lies are told about you and you're in the media, your detractors are going to use it and use it forever more. You have to neutralize that and the only way to do that is to get the truth out," said Mark NeJame, one of Grayson's attorneys.
When the judge said that both sides had "calmed down" from the initial acrimony of last year's divorce filing, NeJame shot back, "Except the Republican Party."
Lolita Grayson's attorney, Mark Longell, said the congressman was going to "drag her through the mud" so that he doesn't look bad.


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Even if Alan wins the case, I don't think he will come out looking good, at all. Even if she didn't do the correct paperwork 24 years ago, she is still the mother of his four children. He would look so much better if he would treat her with respect. He's got plenty of money, it's not attractive that he is fighting tooth and nail to keep the mother of his children from sharing it.



Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
4. Yup.
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 04:14 PM
Mar 2015

He looks like any other guy turning selfish in a divorce and simply looking to avoid actually sharing the wealth with the partner he supposedly loved after things go sour.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
5. I suspect the law is on his side
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 04:17 PM
Mar 2015

and the folks that want to silence him are concocting any story to try to bury Rep. Grayson.

Divorce and politics are a nasty business separately, but together? Have mercy.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
6. So you think a multimillionaire
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 04:36 PM
Mar 2015

should have to pay nothing to his wife of 24 years (whether legally divorced or not for part of that time) who bore 4 children and who knows in what ways supported his ability to have a career?

What some rich people will do to get out of losing a dollar. What purported liberals will do to excuse such behavior. Yes, divorce is ugly: because people like this make it so.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
8. I think you just brought
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 04:58 PM
Mar 2015

so many assumptions into my post that weren't anywhere near what I said that it's going to take a few months to clear the air.

Feel free to leave them on the lawn, I guess, just don't step on the petunias.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
10. If they were never legally married...
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 05:02 PM
Mar 2015

then he is obligated to support the children but not necessarily her. Of course, until the kids turn 18, that will also entail paying at least part of her bills. After they turn 18, though, she should be on her own. If the marriage was fraudulent from the beginning, then he shouldn't be obligated to take care of her after the kids are of age.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
7. Doesn't matter if the law is on his side, he looks bad fighting so acrimoniously with the mother of
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 04:55 PM
Mar 2015

his children. That's why he should be willing to pony up the money needed to settle the case quietly and peacefully and get it out of the newspapers and let his children have some peace and stability in their lives.

Whether Alan is right or wrong, whether the law is on his side or not, no one wins in public nasty ugly divorce battles. Alan and his lawyers are so focused on proving Alan's wife to be in the wrong, as if that will completely exonerate Alan. But people like me won't really think highly of Alan even if he wins completely. It's still inexcusable to put the children through such public nastiness fighting over money with their mom.

'Bury Rep. Grayson'? He recently won re-election. The voters have decided not to vote on the basis of divorce allegations. Grayson should forget about self-righteously proving himself to be right, and reach the quiet settlement advised by the judge. And he should have done it yesterday.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
11. I'm not married to either one of them.
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 05:02 PM
Mar 2015

So no, I'm not going to stand here in judgement of either of them.

If you can point out where I did, please do. I merely remarked that divorce can be a nasty business and mixing it with politics is even worse.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
19. Divorce is a nasty process. If you are considering it, please take a couple of weeks off work.
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 08:46 PM
Mar 2015

Go to your local courthouse and review a few of the files in divorce cases. Look at the forms you will have to file. Full disclosure of all your financial information, lots of nasty gossip about your children, each other, maybe a couple of friends. The more money you have, the deeper the other side is going to dig into your personal business. Then spend a few days in divorce court watching how the proceedings go. Note the grimaces on the soon-to-be exes faces.

Next, take a little walk over to the juvenile court and witness some of the damage that divorce can do to kids. Not all kids in juvenile court are from turbulent families, and not all kids from turbulent families end up in juvenile court -- but why increase the odds that your inability to resolve the conflicts in your marriage will increase the odds of your children to be unable to resolve those in their lives.

Get a handle on the reality of life. Grow up. Your spouse is not perfect. Neither are you.

Divorce is, in my opinion, appropriate when one or the other partner is an alcoholic, a drug addict or incurably mentally ill.

Otherwise, try to avoid it. It will probably ruin your life. Yes, divorce can make a bad situation even worse.

No. I am not divorced, but I have seen a lot of divorces. Try to learn to resolve conflicts in a peaceful way.

I recommend Nonviolent Communication by Rosenberg to start.

http://www.nonviolentcommunication.com/index.htm

Probably too late for Alan Grayson. But maybe this will even help him.

This nasty divorce is not good.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
12. This is more like Henry the VIII
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 05:06 PM
Mar 2015

He wants his long term marriage annulled, and that will make hiis children illegitimate....just as Henry did with Queen Catherine of Aragon.
they were even married the same number of years: 24.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
9. Grayson is committing political suicide.
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 05:01 PM
Mar 2015

It is really foolish. There is no way he wins in the court of public opinion. He looks like a cheapskate, heartless woman hater.

Even if she didn't correctly end her first marriage, Grayson was married to her for 24 years and they had children. He should have agreed to a generous settlement immediately. That would have been the liberal and decent thing to do.

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
14. such a guy thing.
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 05:29 PM
Mar 2015

they seem to all do it. gettin it done to me. hiding money, playing games, dragging things out, refusing fair offers of settlement.
and then, crying about how much the wife is paying for an attorney to fight him.

this is no time to be a regular guy alan. divorce is a common thing, and no woman that has been through it is EVER going to look at you the same way.

dems are supposed to believe in fairness. you are showing that you preach it but dont think it applies to you.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
20. This is unbelievably ugly. Certainly not a liberal thing to do to his wife.
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 08:50 PM
Mar 2015

I suspect there is more to this story than is being told.

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
22. no doubt. not anything that bears on his actions, tho.
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 09:02 PM
Mar 2015

i wish i had a nickel for every woman i know who dealt w the same shit. even a friend whose ex left her for another woman. out of the blue. innocent. and yet she is struggling to get support after 30 years of marriage, closing in on old age.

i dont care what she did. trying to make an end run like this, pretending there was no marriage, legality aside, just reeks. reeks.

not liberal. at all. mr leftier than thou congressman.

Catherine Gross

(6 posts)
16. Congressman wants 24-year marriage annulled, says wife, Lolita, is a bigamist
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 07:07 PM
Mar 2015

I like Grayson, but I could never agree to what he is trying to do to his wife,

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
17. Am I the only one to say if you try to marry someone named Lolita you get what is coming?
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 07:14 PM
Mar 2015

If a parent since the mid 50s know that the name is tainted. Not too many kids named adolf.

Yeah, if someone is named Lolita nowadays the were probably raised by nutters.

marble falls

(57,083 posts)
18. As much as I love Alan Grayson, he certainly makes it hard to defend him with all the side issues...
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 07:53 PM
Mar 2015

he generates.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
31. I feel for the kids too.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 09:57 PM
Mar 2015

She has certainly not proven to be trustworthy, though, and there is obviously a lot of acrimony. I'm not Grayson's biggest fan, but I don't blame him for defending himself in this divorce.

Also, I think he has asked for sole custody. If he is awarded that, and if it can be shown that they were never legally married, I frankly don't think his wife (?) is entitled to anything.

rgbecker

(4,831 posts)
28. A LOT OF JUDGEMENT GOING ON HERE ABOUT GREYSON.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 08:44 AM
Mar 2015

Do you people have information I don't about how much Greyson has offered Lolita? Do you know or are you assuming he is simply refusing to give her anything? Do you know how much she is asking for?

I've read your comments about how awful he is to be fighting her, but I see nothing to back up claims he is leaving her in the lurch.

That said, I'd like to see Greyson get back to butchering the Republicans.

Judi Lynn

(160,530 posts)
29. He is exceptional in that capacity, isn't he?
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 10:48 AM
Mar 2015

I can't grasp why any Democrat would want to whoop it up regarding his marital problems. Deeply puzzling.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
30. if he wants this ugliness to end, just pay her half
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 10:51 AM
Mar 2015

He'll still be worth 15.5 million so what's the problem?

 

dolphinsandtuna

(231 posts)
32. If she's been committing fraud since the beginning,
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 08:04 AM
Mar 2015

he owes her zero, in my opinion. The kids are another matter. They're entitled to full support until they become adults. No one cares if someone is illegitimate, however.

It ought to be easy to determine the divorce status via paperwork, however, unless Guam doesn't keep decent records. Also there should be a signature on the Broward County paperwork. Also possibly a lawyer involved in the latter who would or would not recognize her.

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