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alp227

(32,021 posts)
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 08:05 PM Apr 2012

US regulators look to ease swaps rules

Source: Financial Times

US regulators are exploring ways to give large foreign banks and overseas subsidiaries of US lenders a reprieve from stringent new derivatives rules, potentially alleviating one of the biggest concerns facing global financial institutions.

The US Commodity Futures Trading Commission is looking to grant a temporary exemption to swap dealers that may fall under the jurisdiction of foreign financial authorities from complying with a host of post-financial crisis regulations governing derivatives transactions, people familiar with the matter said.

New regulations such as higher capital requirements, the mandated posting of margin, central clearing and tighter business conduct standards are among the directives slated to take effect aimed at reducing systemic risk. Wall Street analysts have warned investors that these rules are expected to take a significant bite out of bank earnings power.

Last week, Michel Barnier, the EU’s financial services commissioner, sent a stern letter to US financial supervisors “strongly” encouraging them to delay applying new swaps rules to European banks “until there is legal clarity” about what the regulations would entail.

Read more: http://liveweb.archive.org/http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1920878e-8c7d-11e1-9758-00144feab49a.html

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US regulators look to ease swaps rules (Original Post) alp227 Apr 2012 OP
. NRaleighLiberal Apr 2012 #1
+1000 nt abelenkpe Apr 2012 #19
No. Just no. sakabatou Apr 2012 #2
Sure, why not? After the first couple of trillion..... DeSwiss Apr 2012 #3
I just watched tonight's 60 Minutes report on the Lehman Brothers collapse. Bozita Apr 2012 #4
Lehman robbed the states via state pension investments freshstart Apr 2012 #17
EPIC FAIL! Odin2005 Apr 2012 #5
Aw, what the hell.... lastlib Apr 2012 #6
Why don't they let American Students off the hook for massive debt? lib2DaBone Apr 2012 #7
$wap = swap Trillions from taxpayers' pockets into... Amonester Apr 2012 #8
Whatever it takes.. sendero Apr 2012 #9
more hope and change KG Apr 2012 #10
since the Capissars in the justice department.... unkachuck Apr 2012 #11
I haven't read this yet but the headline alone spells snappyturtle Apr 2012 #12
I watched this today freshstart Apr 2012 #13
because one financial collapse isn't enough.... mike_c Apr 2012 #14
Not only the 'Deep Pocket$' weren't punished accordingly... Amonester Apr 2012 #16
Frontline is doing a new series too freshstart Apr 2012 #15
Thank you for the heads-up! Bozita Apr 2012 #26
You're welcome! freshstart Apr 2012 #28
I think that Greenspan is back to his usual self. amandabeech Apr 2012 #31
Can't allow old Europe to make their own rules in our world got root Apr 2012 #18
O Hell no! Nt abelenkpe Apr 2012 #20
These People, Sir, Should Be Told To :Pound Sand.... The Magistrate Apr 2012 #21
Take everyone out that's in the derivatives business and hang them. mbperrin Apr 2012 #22
That's an 'extreme' method nobody here SHOULD wish for... Amonester Apr 2012 #25
Well, then get to it. mbperrin Apr 2012 #30
What could POSSIBLY go wrong?? cliffordu Apr 2012 #23
re: US regulators look to ease swaps rules allan01 Apr 2012 #24
"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it" jmowreader Apr 2012 #27
Do I have this right, CFTC too poor to regulate oil price fixing, but, can do this. Festivito Apr 2012 #29

sakabatou

(42,152 posts)
2. No. Just no.
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 08:26 PM
Apr 2012

They're try to undo, again, protections that lead to the disaster in 2006 (I think it was that year).

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
3. Sure, why not? After the first couple of trillion.....
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 08:29 PM
Apr 2012

...you get used to weight of all that debt.

- And since it's all digital money, we won't have to worry about wheelbarrows.......


K&R


''Dear, if you want a loaf of bread AND milk, we'll need another wheelbarrow.''

Bozita

(26,955 posts)
4. I just watched tonight's 60 Minutes report on the Lehman Brothers collapse.
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 08:50 PM
Apr 2012

NO prosecutions of any of the bad actors by either the SEC or the DOJ.

And that's in spite of the 2200 page Bankruptcy Court Examiner's Report which has gone largely ignored by both the SEC and DOJ.

Why have ANY rules if they aren't going to be enforced?

freshstart

(265 posts)
17. Lehman robbed the states via state pension investments
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 10:53 PM
Apr 2012

and nothing has become of this NJ lawsuit that I can find. Other states, like Fla lost even more. But, they use the pension issue to attack the teachers and other public workers. George Bush's cousin George Walker was a big wig at Lehman, and Jeb was there at some point. From what I understand the money ended up with Bain via Neuberger Berman with George Walker at the head. I can't understand how they could have a penny after bankruptcy court.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/03/new_jersey_is_suing_lehman.html

http://open.salon.com/blog/thomas_horton/2008/10/06/fuld_by_lehman_bushs_family_connection

lastlib

(23,226 posts)
6. Aw, what the hell....
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 09:19 PM
Apr 2012

...a trillion here, a trillion there....what, do you think it'll ever add up to real money???

 

lib2DaBone

(8,124 posts)
7. Why don't they let American Students off the hook for massive debt?
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 09:26 PM
Apr 2012

The kids dont have a job or hope of ever getting a job in this country..... and CONgress is perfectly happy shipping jobs to China.

They were lied to and scammed... and we are AMAZED that they are pissed off.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
8. $wap = swap Trillions from taxpayers' pockets into...
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 09:35 PM
Apr 2012

multi-billionnaire banksters' tax heavens.

They haven't stolen enough yet?

Of course not.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
9. Whatever it takes..
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 09:39 PM
Apr 2012

.. to keep the ponzi-economy going. It's all going to work great until it doesn't.

 

unkachuck

(6,295 posts)
11. since the Capissars in the justice department....
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 09:45 PM
Apr 2012

....won't enforce the laws and since the federal reserve, Central Committee of the Capitalist Party of America, won't manage responsibly and since the fec Politburo, won't enforce the rules and since the Standing Committee of the Central Committee is granting exemptions, the only way I can protect myself is to stop feeding the wall-street gambling addicts and distance myself completely from the evils of capitalism....

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
12. I haven't read this yet but the headline alone spells
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 10:28 PM
Apr 2012

a big "NO"! Anytime I hear deregulation scares me....well, since Raygun anyway.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
16. Not only the 'Deep Pocket$' weren't punished accordingly...
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 10:47 PM
Apr 2012

but made 'a killing' from that collapse, thanks to their carefully bribed 'staffs' in all capitalist governments...

Why wouldn't they WANT to make another 'killing' now?

freshstart

(265 posts)
28. You're welcome!
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 07:56 AM
Apr 2012

Those videos they have up now for a primer are good. One of them has Greenspan stating his ideology was wrong, I had never seen that before. I can't believe that the Republicans are following the path of deregulation, knowing that even Greenspan says there is a flaw and that free markets don't regulate themselves. Frontline is one of my favorites.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
31. I think that Greenspan is back to his usual self.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 01:52 PM
Apr 2012

Even corporate devil Jack Welch admitted on CNBC that he was wrong on how he ran GE, but he, too, is back to his old song and dance--every year, fire 20% of your employees, no matter what.

 

got root

(425 posts)
18. Can't allow old Europe to make their own rules in our world
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 11:07 PM
Apr 2012

Don't they realize that 'we' run the show?

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
22. Take everyone out that's in the derivatives business and hang them.
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 12:04 AM
Apr 2012

Or put them upside down from telephone poles and shoot them.

Some methods for dealing with monsters are completely appropriate.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
25. That's an 'extreme' method nobody here SHOULD wish for...
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 12:17 AM
Apr 2012

There are other ways to deal with massive roberry that don't include mass murder.

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
30. Well, then get to it.
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 06:54 PM
Apr 2012

My suggestion has been proven effective many times over. I'm really a populist at heart, not as much progressive.

My reaction to people trying to kill me is to get them first, and that's what is happening here. People are dying for corporate profits, and so the worst of them need to go. Then we can see how much further.

But instead of dealing with them, as you can see by the OP, our government is trying to figure out how to re-enable them.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
27. "Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it"
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 01:14 AM
Apr 2012

The problem with THIS history is, it's only five years old.

I realize people have short attention spans, but this is ridiculous. If anything, they need to INCREASE the rules on derivatives to do things like banning derivatives whose underlying securities are derivatives, and regulating credit default swaps as insurance--including a ban on purchasing CDS when you don't own the underlying derivatives.

Go read up on the Goldman Sachs scandal, then remind yourself: not only was everything they did in that scandal legal, it is STILL legal.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
29. Do I have this right, CFTC too poor to regulate oil price fixing, but, can do this.
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 09:56 AM
Apr 2012

Repubs took their funding away during a lame duck session, and now won't give it back, instead railing on Dems, Obama specifically, that we must be the cause of the problem they created.

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