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Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:55 PM Apr 2015

RAHM EMANUEL TOPS CHUY GARCIA FOR CHICAGO MAYOR

Source: CBS Chicago

CHICAGO (CBS) — Thrown into a bruising run-off election, Rahm Emanuel scored a hard-fought win for a second term, defeating Jesus “Chuy” Garcia on Tuesday, thus ending a mayoral campaign never before seen in Chicago.

With nearly two thirds of the vote counted, Emanuel held a 56 percent to 44 percent edge over Garcia. CBS 2 exit polling data projected the final margin to be 54 percent to 46 percent.

Emanuel, politically damaged by his decision to close more than 50 Chicago Public Schools and fighting the perception that he was out of touch with voters and only focused on pleasing well-healed business connections, failed to win 50 percent of the vote in February’s election.

That result led to the first ever run-off election in Chicago, with the Chicago Teacher’s Union, angered over the school closings, providing much of the momentum to Garcia, especially in the early days following February’s first round.

Read more: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/04/07/rahm-emanuel-tops-chuy-garcia-for-chicago-mayor/

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RAHM EMANUEL TOPS CHUY GARCIA FOR CHICAGO MAYOR (Original Post) Freddie Stubbs Apr 2015 OP
Let the excuse making begin! bluestateguy Apr 2015 #1
No excuses dsc Apr 2015 #3
Sounds like th voters must be pretty stupid then bluestateguy Apr 2015 #21
I wouldn't use the word stupid dsc Apr 2015 #26
What do you think you donate to candidates and the Dem Party for? merrily Apr 2015 #55
Try not quite four to one Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2015 #60
I don't care WHAT field of competition Plucketeer Apr 2015 #73
Anyone who is celebrating this is not a progressive. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #13
Well said. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #25
Excuses? elleng Apr 2015 #28
No one gets handed a ballot in Chicago. AngryAmish Apr 2015 #37
Excuses? Are you aware of how much money Emanuel spent on the runoff election? Chakab Apr 2015 #43
Riiiight. Incumbency, name recognition, Dem Party support and millions of dollars are irrelevant. merrily Apr 2015 #54
. LiberalElite Apr 2015 #2
Double digits, baby! Brother Buzz Apr 2015 #4
How absolutely stupid can people be? choie Apr 2015 #5
That's a disappointment. mountain grammy Apr 2015 #6
Voted for Garcia rpannier Apr 2015 #7
An endorsement from President Barack Obama can't hurt. BlueEye Apr 2015 #64
I doubt he'll run for Governor rpannier Apr 2015 #66
silver lining DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #8
Sneed: Hillary may want Rahm for presidential cabinet Freddie Stubbs Apr 2015 #30
BARF!!! DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #48
That would make sense davidpdx Apr 2015 #63
That's not bad, good turn-out for Chuy. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #9
The alderman candidate in my ward who is liberal lost mucifer Apr 2015 #12
can follow here rpannier Apr 2015 #14
Thank you! Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #20
Damn. herding cats Apr 2015 #10
My sentiments exactly. Not surprising, but still sucks. (It would've been so nice to be surprised.) deurbano Apr 2015 #15
Exactly. herding cats Apr 2015 #19
Well fuck. nt F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #11
oooh, a "hard fought win" chapdrum Apr 2015 #16
May not be a "done deal"... 2naSalit Apr 2015 #17
NBC just called it...ABC semi calling it through Edison research alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #18
Garcia Concedes Front Page of the Trib alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #22
you can be assured Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #23
ROFL alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #29
NY Times Calls it alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #24
Have you ever been to Chicago? Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #49
Sorry to hear that /nt think Apr 2015 #27
Looks like you're gloating with that all caps headline. Kingofalldems Apr 2015 #31
Nope, I just cut and pasted from the source Freddie Stubbs Apr 2015 #33
I got the answer I expected, so not disappointed. Kingofalldems Apr 2015 #35
Well, duh. nt onehandle Apr 2015 #32
Republican Vote tipped it Wabbajack_ Apr 2015 #34
Well he is a Republican who runs as a Democrat Chisox08 Apr 2015 #38
There is no Republican vote in Chicago, to speak of frazzled Apr 2015 #44
I live in Chicago. There are Republicans if you hang out in the north side rpannier Apr 2015 #51
You do understand what "to speak of" means, don't you? frazzled Apr 2015 #58
I know Chicago Wabbajack_ Apr 2015 #56
mittens got 14% of the vote in the city. mopinko Apr 2015 #71
God damn it! Chisox08 Apr 2015 #36
For a city that supposedly didn't like him..... Historic NY Apr 2015 #39
Dissapointing. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #40
Too bad. 840high Apr 2015 #41
Disappointing but not a suprise iandhr Apr 2015 #42
"Better the devil you know" Warpy Apr 2015 #52
I don't trust these things--> blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #45
Pic URL: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/01/01/magazine/06voting600.1.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #46
Certainly where I live in Will County, those machines are not used Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2015 #61
I voted paper ballot in Chicago yesterday, and I've never seen paperless electronic here alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #70
except we dont vote that way here. mopinko Apr 2015 #72
Remember, you don't have to show ID Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #47
56% of Chicago can go fuck itself FiveGoodMen Apr 2015 #50
The Power Of Citizens United Money At Work For All To See - Democracy Is Dead cantbeserious Apr 2015 #53
So you're saying the voters of Chicago were stupid? brooklynite Apr 2015 #67
And therefore, you're saying that the voters who elected Repubs brentspeak Apr 2015 #79
One Could Draw That Conclusion cantbeserious Apr 2015 #80
we arent stupid here. mopinko Apr 2015 #74
Typical... sendero Apr 2015 #57
Anyone evver read the book FRIDAY? Telcontar Apr 2015 #59
Shit davidpdx Apr 2015 #62
I do not follow Chicago politics ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #65
rahm had a lot more support than some folks thought. mopinko Apr 2015 #69
Correct...the rending of garments over a Rahm win strikes me as bizarre alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #75
chuy supporters who came to my door were quite ignorant mopinko Apr 2015 #77
Frank Underwood engineers another win. alarimer Apr 2015 #68
Oh, Rahm can get away with everything, and then we will all be expected to cheer if/when Hillary djean111 Apr 2015 #76
What about the accomplishments ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #81
The name Jesus Chuy is very out of the normal polynomial Apr 2015 #78

dsc

(52,162 posts)
3. No excuses
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:01 PM
Apr 2015

Emmanuel outspent his opponent by better than 5 to 1 and was the incumbent. Give me 30 million vs less than 6 million for my less well known opponent and the majority of the time I will win.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
26. I wouldn't use the word stupid
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:37 PM
Apr 2015

but they often don't have the time to pay attention to local affairs. It also is pretty hard to become informed on them given the cutbacks in local news. I have lived in the town I currently am in for a few months and admit I have no earthly idea what my local government is doing right now. I would assume that Chicago has more local new coverage than my current home town, but how much more or what quality it has I admit to having no idea. It is hard not to be dependent upon ads in that situation.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
55. What do you think you donate to candidates and the Dem Party for?
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 01:51 AM
Apr 2015

What do you think they do with most of the money they collect? Buy ads.

If those ads are not influencing voters, how stupid are they to spend our hard earned dollars on them?

Where have you been?

ETA: And how stupid are we to donate to people who spend our hard earned dollars on TV ads, which, according to you, are not influencing voters?

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
73. I don't care WHAT field of competition
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:59 AM
Apr 2015

I'll always bet on the side with an EIGHTY percent advantage! Hell, our district has a federal rep that is there as long as he wants to be. The few times there's dared to be a challenge to him, he just flexes his monetary base and settles in for another two years!

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
2. .
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:59 PM
Apr 2015

Last edited Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:35 PM - Edit history (1)

FUCK!

Actually, although Chuy claimed to expect a victory, I got a bad feeling when I read the beginning of this email from Chuy's campaign: "I'm proud of the movement we've built..."

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
7. Voted for Garcia
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:05 PM
Apr 2015

He ran a fairly weak campaign leading up to the run-off
His campaign faltered badly
Rahm hasn't done a job that entitles him to be re-elected (IMO)
I don't understand the support he gets, but to each their own

BlueEye

(449 posts)
64. An endorsement from President Barack Obama can't hurt.
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:32 AM
Apr 2015

Rahm is a real fighter, and I hope he can make amends with all sides of the Illinois Democratic Party now that this acrimonious election is over. Rahm has demonstrated that he can win a tough election, and can win votes from people on the left and centrists. I hope he runs for Governor against Rauner in 2018, I believe he could win that race. Rahm may not be a true progressive, but he'd be better than a Republican.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
66. I doubt he'll run for Governor
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:44 AM
Apr 2015

Only because there's rumblings that Cheri Bustos is looking like she'll run and Madigan may run as well
Bustos is a congressional rep from outside Chicago (IL-17). She'll poll better on the western side. Her district has some traditionally Democratic strongholds. But the Democrats didn't do so well in those places (Moline, East Moline, Rock Island...) in 2014, but she did
And the only way Lisa Madigan couldn't win if she ran was if Michael Madigan made an ass out of himself and people couldn't get past it

If Lisa ran, Rahm definitely wouldn't. Michael is the power in the state, both because he is speaker and chairman of the party

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
8. silver lining
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:05 PM
Apr 2015

at leats he will be busy putting foires out in Chicago, not able to become something like Hill's vp.

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
30. Sneed: Hillary may want Rahm for presidential cabinet
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:46 PM
Apr 2015

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who is expected to announce her candidacy for president within the next few weeks, is not only this/close to Mayor Rahm Emanuel — but if she’s elected, it’s expected the Rahmster would become a member of her cabinet.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
48. BARF!!!
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 12:04 AM
Apr 2015

Does she actually want to dispose of everybody left of her husband! These people would consider FDR too far left! Why does she feel enititled to be compoletely, utterly disrespectful and hostile to everyone who is not upper middle class or above? Does she consider the way Rahm almost wrecked the Obama Presidency a SUCCESS?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
63. That would make sense
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:05 AM
Apr 2015

The stinky fish man served during Clinton I and helped fuck things up. Why not repeat history?

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
9. That's not bad, good turn-out for Chuy.
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:05 PM
Apr 2015

The campaign only started a few months ago and it still forced Rahm to take the election seriously. Chuy has shown there is support out there for himself and will have a good base to grow for next time.

Are the results in on alderman seats?

mucifer

(23,542 posts)
12. The alderman candidate in my ward who is liberal lost
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:10 PM
Apr 2015

the one who takes campaign pics with rahm won. 2nd ward.

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
16. oooh, a "hard fought win"
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:21 PM
Apr 2015

The scrappin' sh*t wins again - what a surprise.
As in SO many other states and cities, are ciphers like R.E. actually winning by vote, or fraud?
Appears we'll never know.
Cue Monty Burns.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
23. you can be assured
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:31 PM
Apr 2015

Rahm will make his next term primarily about securing his own position for life.

Got a nice black site still operating for any threats to the regime that may emerge, and years to work with. Get out while you still can, IF you can.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
49. Have you ever been to Chicago?
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 12:15 AM
Apr 2015

It's a great city.
I'd live there, but the winters are just a tad too harsh for me.

Chisox08

(1,898 posts)
38. Well he is a Republican who runs as a Democrat
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 10:08 PM
Apr 2015

because he knows he can not win as a Republican. We can expect more privatization of city services and a renewed drive to get rid of pensions the city employees worked hard for.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
44. There is no Republican vote in Chicago, to speak of
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 10:53 PM
Apr 2015

And there are never any Republican candidates in city races.

It's responses like this, from people who don't understand a thing about Chicago, that make these kinds of threads laughable.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
51. I live in Chicago. There are Republicans if you hang out in the north side
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 12:36 AM
Apr 2015

You do realize that in the 45th Alderman run-off, Alderman John Arena defeated Lt. John Garrido.
Garrido is a Republican

So... tell me again about people who don't understand a thing about Chicago

In case you need verification. The Chicago Tribune, whom I hope you would agree knows a little about Chicago, has the info

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-chicago-city-council-elect-0408-20150407-story.html#page=1

It's under the picture of Rahm shaking hands from a stage

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
58. You do understand what "to speak of" means, don't you?
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 07:00 AM
Apr 2015

Because your post suggests you don't. My response was to counter the ludicrous suggestion that "Republicans" voters tilted the mayoral election. And yes, I read that Tribune article well before I read your post.

I live in Chicago, though not on the Northwest side. (The only time I've been there is to a paint store once, and there's a great little Polish restaurant we go to once or twice a year.) And is there any surprise that Arena would beat the single Republican running in all 50 aldermanic races? There are no Republican aldermen/women (even if we concede that city elections have recently become "non-partisan&quot . That said, aldermanic races frankly have little to do with the mayoral election. It's not about coattails. It's about specific things that occur in the ward: like vacant lots, like too much or too little development, like garbage pickup. It's rarely ideological. It's largely about constituent services.

Look, this was a 12-point spread. If we want to look for answers, we shouldn't resort to uninformed suggestions that "Republicans" tilted this election. If you want to look anywhere, look to racial relations in this city, which is about evenly divided between whites, blacks, and Latinos. There's a whole lot of distrust and antipathy between the black and Latino communities, and Garcia was not able to move the black community here. It's a sad but true fact that there is competition between these two groups. The demographics are clear: the white vote went largely for Emanuel, the Latino vote went largely for Garcia. The black vote tilted toward the mayor. It's really that simple.

Wabbajack_

(1,300 posts)
56. I know Chicago
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 02:27 AM
Apr 2015

I live in Chicago.

If you think this city is 100% Democratic, then YOU are laughable. I believe pubbies get around 20% of the vote in POTUS elections, moderate Republicans running in state elections sometimes carry some wards. Do you think those people voted for the more progressive candidate? Hmm? Hmm, Smart ass?

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
71. mittens got 14% of the vote in the city.
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:55 AM
Apr 2015

they are heavily concentrated in the downtown area, as well as the formerly lily white wards.
but there are, in fact, republicans in chicago. they may not get anyone elected, but 14% is a sizable voting block.

Chisox08

(1,898 posts)
36. God damn it!
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 10:07 PM
Apr 2015

How in the fuck did that asshole win re-election? This election only proves that we have the best democracy that money can buy.
I did what I could to help defeat Emanuel, but I knew it was going to be an uphill battle.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
39. For a city that supposedly didn't like him.....
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 10:11 PM
Apr 2015

and he wins then thats like Rudy in Ny....everybody except the taxpayers.

Warpy

(111,257 posts)
52. "Better the devil you know"
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 12:51 AM
Apr 2015

is a potent motivator for a lot of people who really don't like change.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
70. I voted paper ballot in Chicago yesterday, and I've never seen paperless electronic here
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:48 AM
Apr 2015

Last statewide election, I voted on an electronic machine with a visible and verifiable paper "receipt" locked into the machine. I don't think Cook County does paperless electronic, and Chicago city elections are ward by ward.

What ward did you vote in? You had a paperless electronic ballot in Chicago? Where? What ward?

Or are you just talking out of your ass?

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
72. except we dont vote that way here.
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:58 AM
Apr 2015

except early voting and an occasional handicapped, or non-english speaking voters, it is paper ballots on election day.

brooklynite

(94,559 posts)
67. So you're saying the voters of Chicago were stupid?
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:05 AM
Apr 2015

That they couldn't see through the Super PAC advertising, while you, a political blogger, were so much smarter?

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
79. And therefore, you're saying that the voters who elected Repubs
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 12:16 PM
Apr 2015

all around the nation -- Kansas, North Carolina, Wisconsin, etc -- on the basis of Super PAC-funded propaganda are all pretty smart? Is that what we can take from your post?

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
74. we arent stupid here.
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:00 AM
Apr 2015

i wont claim money had nothing to do with it. but it is pretty retail politics here. lots of shoe leather, lots of grip and grin, and lots of good journalism.

sorry to disappoint you, but democracy is alive and well in chicago. just because you dont like the results is no reason to dump on the voters.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
57. Typical...
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 06:00 AM
Apr 2015

.... just another case of Americans getting the government they deserve. I'm to the point of just not caring any more, if folks want these kinds of assholes running things, or if they are too lazy to know what their candidates are really about, they deserve what is coming to them.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
65. I do not follow Chicago politics ...
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:37 AM
Apr 2015

and, other than a Chuy Garcia win would have had him the 1st Hispanic/Latino Mayor of Chicago, I have no idea what the issues were or how the candidates came down on them.

I know that Rahm is widely disliked here as the anti-liberal, was Garcia a Progressive? Or was the DU support, actually anti-Rahm?

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
69. rahm had a lot more support than some folks thought.
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:41 AM
Apr 2015

i, for one, thought that much of the anti-rahm sentiment looked and smelled like obama derangement.
he has quite a list of accomplishments. he was endorsed by every local environmental group, as well as lgbt groups. not to mention unions, ctu aside.

as an urban farmer, i felt that he really got food. he worked to end food deserts by bringing 9 grocery stores to underserved areas, and has vastly enlarged urban farming and community gardens.

same goes for tech. got google and others to put headquarters here, and has fed the start up economy.
brought a lot of good jobs, and is building on that to bring more.
he has supported the university and healthcare community, which is a sector that provides good jobs. GOOD jobs.

chuy won in the heavily hispanic wards, but he really failed to put anything on the table. he ran the challenger's losing game. "anybody but" doesnt work. it just doesnt.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
75. Correct...the rending of garments over a Rahm win strikes me as bizarre
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:27 AM
Apr 2015

Qualifier: I did not vote for Rahm yesterday, but having him continue as Mayor is fine.

He has done quite a lot of good, and he's demonstrated competence across the board.

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
77. chuy supporters who came to my door were quite ignorant
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:51 AM
Apr 2015

of the mayor's accomplishments. endorsements, too.
sorta bizarre, i thought.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
68. Frank Underwood engineers another win.
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:14 AM
Apr 2015

I swear this guy is Underwood without all the murder. Absolutely poison for our democracy. I can only hope he gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar or something and just goes away in disgrace.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
76. Oh, Rahm can get away with everything, and then we will all be expected to cheer if/when Hillary
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:39 AM
Apr 2015

gets elected and appoints Rahm to her administration. I think Rahm's victory will now be used to show people that we all must vote for Hillary and leave our retarded little liberal ideas in the trash. Being used as an object lesson.

polynomial

(750 posts)
78. The name Jesus Chuy is very out of the normal
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 12:13 PM
Apr 2015

A long time ago in a galaxy far away, I lived in Chicago, was born on the south side near back of the yards. Now in a suburb, but always tracking the business and politics.

This was a kind election on both sides, however, from my view it was theater. This guy Jesus Chuy Garcia was given center stage for the electorate audience, and an electoral test.

My personal opinion is that Mr. Garcia should have used his Commissioner status as his nickname rather than Chuy. What the heck is a Chuy by Hispanic definition, the diminutive of Jesus, a huge cultural error.

Or is that the star wars Chewbacca we all know? Having the name Jesus Chuy is very out of the normal common sense combination. The Republican red carpet Hollywood would have had a field day. Chicago would have gone Republican…half the population is not stupid but they are driven by commercials that lie.

Wikipedia illustrates Rahms character as very Jewish. Now for the first time A Jewish man to lead in Chicago, from my view he has a lot of moxie to turn down fifty schools predominately in Black or Hispanic areas. Actually more schools need to be scratched, because they are way under standards. It is difficult for the Black or Hispanic community to accept that, but I think it is true.

The Daily family gave Jessie Jackson Sr. and Jr. a good chance to do something over the decades, however They failed with a lot of Black representatives that resist being honest.

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