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hue

(4,949 posts)
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:46 PM May 2015

GOP House Leaders Create ‘Action Group’ To Seize And Sell America’s Public Lands

Source: CLIMATEPROGRESS

A group of Republican congressmen this week took an aggressive step in a campaign to seize and sell off America’s national forests and other public lands.

In launching what they are calling the “Federal Land Action Group,” Rep. Chris Stewart (R-UT) and Rep. Rob Bishop (R-UT) plan to develop a legislative framework for giving states control of America’s public lands. Calling the federal government a “lousy landlord for western states,” Rep. Stewart said “we simply think the states can do it better.”

Bishop, who is also chair of the House Natural Resources Committee, said that “this group will explore legal and historical background in order to determine the best congressional action needed to return these lands back to the rightful owners.”

This latest effort to transfer or dispose of national forests and public lands was immediately blasted by Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-AZ), the ranking member on the House Natural Resources Committee, as being unwise, unpopular, and illegal.

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/05/01/3653883/gop-action-group-seize-public-lands/



Any way for Repukes & their supporters to get their hands on $$!!
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GOP House Leaders Create ‘Action Group’ To Seize And Sell America’s Public Lands (Original Post) hue May 2015 OP
Like I said, they want a bloody civil war. Must, because that is the only way they NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #1
This is dumb on so many levels yeoman6987 May 2015 #9
Repukes Declared War On Our Government billhicks76 May 2015 #33
"to return these lands back to the rightful owners.” < Cool. They can expand the Native Lands... n/ jtuck004 May 2015 #2
Imagine how stupid they are and how much of a criminal act this would be. NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #4
They have in mind it goes back to a bunch of white people. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. jtuck004 May 2015 #10
Hell yes, lets put the white man on reservations. Starting with me NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #11
Don't see the point but ymmv. Restoring what was taken nearly always brings some justice, tho. n/t jtuck004 May 2015 #12
i totally agree with you !!! unionthug777 May 2015 #25
No more criminal than the initial taking. But what a silly waste of time jtuck004 May 2015 #32
Exactly what I was thinking. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #26
Along with the SCOTUS appointments that upaloopa May 2015 #3
I think you should only repeat that 4,376 times a day...anymore would be overkill NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #5
These individuals are so un-American it's incredible. They should be nowhere near ANY public office RKP5637 May 2015 #6
Why don't they sell off their god-damn mothers' graves? NBachers May 2015 #7
Whom do you really think is the deep pockets behind this. Wellstone ruled May 2015 #8
I think you're on to something. secondvariety May 2015 #21
Yup!!! Wellstone ruled May 2015 #23
Economic Royalists Punx May 2015 #13
Teddy Roosevelt is rolling in his grave. nt BumRushDaShow May 2015 #14
Indeed! Punx May 2015 #15
I did find an article that may at least offer some good news BumRushDaShow May 2015 #19
Yep Punx May 2015 #24
These Republicans are major Koch suckers. jalan48 May 2015 #16
And John Birchers too Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #17
Modern version of the racist Birchers. jalan48 May 2015 #20
They're still alive and kicking... Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #22
Expected to see my ass-hat, repuke congressman's name on the list grntuscarora May 2015 #18
A better idea: Rolando May 2015 #28
Or even better: allow the Forest Service grntuscarora May 2015 #31
Huh Bartlet May 2015 #27
They never cease to disgust me. nruthie May 2015 #29
Frackomania! nt valerief May 2015 #30
A good read for those who enjoy a (an) historical reference point asiliveandbreathe May 2015 #34

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
1. Like I said, they want a bloody civil war. Must, because that is the only way they
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:47 PM
May 2015

are getting this, gonna have to kill me first, that is for sure.

It would suck, I would have to get in a plane and fly to a place where they were trying to steal my resources and land and then I guess I would get shot, but I wont go alone.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
9. This is dumb on so many levels
Fri May 1, 2015, 06:25 PM
May 2015

Our land is worth a ton. What happens in a hundred years of we need that land? It won't be ours. And that is the weakest reason to keep it. There a ton more very important reasons to keep it.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
2. "to return these lands back to the rightful owners.” < Cool. They can expand the Native Lands... n/
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:48 PM
May 2015
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
10. They have in mind it goes back to a bunch of white people. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Fri May 1, 2015, 06:29 PM
May 2015

The states were the original caretakers, and lost it because they just saw $$$. Feds took it over, and now the same thing.

So I think this is a fine idea, give it all back to the Native Nations, the original "owners" - as he stated.

They were doing a fine job before the occupying force now known as the "United States" *cough* came in and murdered tens of millions of them.

Seems fair to me...
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
32. No more criminal than the initial taking. But what a silly waste of time
Fri May 1, 2015, 09:56 PM
May 2015

to sit around and imagine that.

bye.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
3. Along with the SCOTUS appointments that
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:52 PM
May 2015

will be made by the next President, the selling of our public lands to the right wing supporters is a reason why we MUST win in 2016.
May the candidate with the best chance to defeat the Repubs win the primaries.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
5. I think you should only repeat that 4,376 times a day...anymore would be overkill
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:53 PM
May 2015

It is ASTOUNDING to me that we have so many ANGRY people here who say they will NOT vote Hillary if she is the candidate

I will NEVER get over how DUMB and SELFISH that is

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
6. These individuals are so un-American it's incredible. They should be nowhere near ANY public office
Fri May 1, 2015, 06:02 PM
May 2015

and should not have any power to make decisions.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. Whom do you really think is the deep pockets behind this.
Fri May 1, 2015, 06:17 PM
May 2015

Does the State of Deseret ring a bell. Read your History about this region of America.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
23. Yup!!!
Fri May 1, 2015, 07:29 PM
May 2015

Put up with their fake Culture for twelve years. I know,just a slow learner,what a relief it is to not have to associate with these fakes. Here is a example,Las Vegas Strip is zoned Clark County,all the Joints sit on leased land and there for don't pay Real Estate Taxes. The land is owned buy a Religious Non Profit and there for Tax exempt. Same Cult as before mentioned.

Punx

(446 posts)
13. Economic Royalists
Fri May 1, 2015, 06:44 PM
May 2015

is what FDR called them and that is spot on!

Sell everything to the highest bidder and eventually nothing will be left for the general population. We will all be serfs to the owners, paying rents for the privilege to live here.

BumRushDaShow

(128,904 posts)
19. I did find an article that may at least offer some good news
Fri May 1, 2015, 07:07 PM
May 2015
<...>

While land transfer proposals have yet to succeed, hunting and fishing groups clearly deem the dangers to public lands worth organizing against. Sixty-nine percent of hunters in the 11 Western states rely on public lands for hunting according to a recent report by Backcountry Hunters and Anglers. Groups also tout the huge economic benefits of public lands. The Department of Interior reported that its 2013 management activities alone supported 296,993 jobs in outdoor recreation and added $16.6 billion dollars to the national economy.

Beyond the financial impacts, however, hunting and angling anti-land-transfer campaigns also speak to a more personal concern: being "locked out" of lands that communities have used for generations. As the recent TRCP report declares, national forest and Bureau of Land Management lands are "strongholds" for hunters and anglers of all income brackets. “Federal public lands have always afforded the opportunity for Americans to hunt, hike, fish and enjoy the outdoors,” said Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation’s David Allen. “The RMEF wants it to remain that way.”

http://www.hcn.org/articles/sportsmen-unite-against-land-transfers


I.e., these sorts of proposals are considered "worse" than "Obama is gonna take away my gun". It's now going to be "The GOP is gonna take away the land where I use my gun because I won't be able to hunt on it if it becomes 'private' land".

Punx

(446 posts)
24. Yep
Fri May 1, 2015, 07:32 PM
May 2015

Last edited Fri May 1, 2015, 10:53 PM - Edit history (1)

I've seen something like this play out in Eastern Oregon where a local landowner died and the land was sold to an out of state person. The locals had to cross a small strip to get to public lands and the former land owner, being part of the community had always left it un-gated. Until it was sold and the new owner put a gate on the road. That did not go over well with the local residents.

Not sure what finally happened. This would be on a much bigger scale of course. My worry is that these reps will only care about the money they get from selling out. Hopefully the locals will organize as you mention.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
22. They're still alive and kicking...
Fri May 1, 2015, 07:23 PM
May 2015

"Once considered by the right and the left as the political equivalent of an addled uncle sent down to the basement rec room to drink, rant and hopefully pass out before saying anything too nutty in front of the guests, in recent years the John Birch Society has been invited back upstairs and has even hosted a dinner party or two. In 2010, the society was a co-sponsor of the annual Conservative Political Action Conference. “It’s a fallacy to say that we ever went into hibernation,” Thompson said in the interview with the Report. “We’ve always been active. We’ve always influenced the conservative movement. We just don’t bang the drum and wave the flag about everything we do.’’


http://www.splcenter.org/home/2012/spring/bringing-back-birch

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
18. Expected to see my ass-hat, repuke congressman's name on the list
Fri May 1, 2015, 07:01 PM
May 2015

of ass-hats involved in this ass-hatted attempt at a land grab. Delighted (and surprised) he was not listed.

Probably he just hasn't heard of the group yet.

 

Rolando

(88 posts)
28. A better idea:
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:11 PM
May 2015

Sell Alaska back to Russia. Unload the Louisiana Purchase and the Gadsden Purchase. Give Texas back to Mexico. Get rid of all that baggage.

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
31. Or even better: allow the Forest Service
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:56 PM
May 2015

to honor its mission statement of "Caring for the Land, and Serving People."

Don't think the mission statement mentions selling it off piecemeal to private corporate interests.

Bartlet

(172 posts)
27. Huh
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:06 PM
May 2015

So by rightful owners they mean Native Americans right? Oh wait, that's not what they meant, they meant their corporate masters...got it.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
34. A good read for those who enjoy a (an) historical reference point
Sat May 2, 2015, 01:22 AM
May 2015

Selling of Federal Land.....many attempts have been made to claim federal land over many years and many a congress....yep - Utah wants their so called state land...as in the past - hopefully today...this attempt won't make it to the floor - even Bush tried twice....

http://www.law.umaryland.edu/marshall/crsreports/crsdocuments/RL34267_12032007.pdf

Greed - nothing more....the Escalade Project at the Grand Canyon comes to mind, although is up for debate re Fed or American Indian authority....but then, there is something else - it is called water!


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