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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Thu May 7, 2015, 03:43 PM May 2015

America's poor are 'envy of the world,' says richest Congressman

Source: CNN

Darrell Issa, the richest man in Congress, said America has made "our poor somewhat the envy of the world."

Asked by CNNMoney whether he feels personally responsible to address income inequality in the United States, the Republican Congressman from California said "absolutely." But he noted that America is the richest country on earth and implied that those in poverty here are better off than the poor in other nations.

"If you go to India or you go to any number of other Third World countries, you have two problems: You have greater inequality of income and wealth. You also have less opportunity for people to rise from the have not to the have," said Issa. In the U.S., he noted there is better availability and access to quality public education.

Issa's personal wealth is by far the greatest of any congress member. His net worth in 2013 was $448.4 million, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, and stems from a car alarm business he built.

Read more: http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/07/news/economy/issa-poor/index.html

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America's poor are 'envy of the world,' says richest Congressman (Original Post) n2doc May 2015 OP
WTF???? ailsagirl May 2015 #1
Yeah, America is a fabulous place: olegramps May 2015 #37
Must be "The New American Dream" ailsagirl May 2015 #41
oh this sh*t again azurnoir May 2015 #2
Obviously this man has never been Kelvin Mace May 2015 #4
The poverty here is really stunning. a la izquierda May 2015 #85
Hey, give the GOP time packman May 2015 #64
Yep, he's a shit stain alright. calimary May 2015 #68
Is that bar low enough now? Comparing ourselves to life in Third World countries? Gidney N Cloyd May 2015 #3
The've been doing this for quite some time d_legendary1 May 2015 #13
And once the working poor are stripped of all the benefits that the Repugs resent maddiemom May 2015 #53
same trick Republicans tried with torture: "Saddam & al Qaedy did worse!" yurbud May 2015 #58
Right, the envy of the world because elleng May 2015 #5
Our poor are the best we are number 1. gordianot May 2015 #6
Fascism maindawg May 2015 #7
I don't know why many Dems. and the left abstain from using the term fascism, appalachiablue May 2015 #95
Says the guy who has made his riches off the fear of crime knightmaar May 2015 #8
Well, that's true, in a limited sense. cheapdate May 2015 #9
The world is a big place n2doc May 2015 #11
Those people are capsizing in boats by the hundreds on a weekly basis JonLP24 May 2015 #77
I don't believe The Onion articles are acceptable LBN sources, n2doc. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #10
"those in poverty here are better off" louis-t May 2015 #12
I guess it's because they don't have flies on their faces. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #14
I guess he's never talked to poor people who live in countries with universal health care. tanyev May 2015 #15
India has universal health care. Which country would you prefer to be poor in? Recursion May 2015 #86
Considering he's a national elected official, he's either lying, or stupid. closeupready May 2015 #16
The poor in India are in worse shape than the poor in the US oberliner May 2015 #17
Did you even read the opening post? closeupready May 2015 #18
Not really oberliner May 2015 #20
No problem. I'm guilty of that plenty myself. closeupready May 2015 #24
Depends on how you measure it Recursion May 2015 #87
Did you ever encounter a Republican you wouldn't 'meet half way'? closeupready May 2015 #89
When a Republican Congressman talks like that . . . Jack Rabbit May 2015 #19
+5 The set up for more cuts to the safey net and no whining about more job losses cuz appalachiablue May 2015 #96
Come on down Issa. Come down here with nothing of your own. Let us set up a situation like we jwirr May 2015 #21
If being poor is the "envy the world", then let's take Darrell's money away LeftInTX May 2015 #22
Better yet, BURN his money in front of him. AngryDem001 May 2015 #74
Issa is pure evil. I wish someone would take asjr May 2015 #23
this bullshit again????? heaven05 May 2015 #25
HA! Plucketeer May 2015 #39
I truly hope and desire that heaven05 May 2015 #60
Isn't the richest country Qatar or UAE? Ilsa May 2015 #26
n2doc Diclotican May 2015 #27
Then go live with the poor, Darrell! See how they "live it up!" muntrv May 2015 #28
Issa thinks America's poor should be knocked down a peg so that we're more in line with Ed Suspicious May 2015 #29
Issa's wealth has doubled in the last few years stuffmatters May 2015 #30
Oh, how I wish that Kruger and Rubin's 2001 plan had been successful Tom Ripley May 2015 #31
Such lack of empathy is vomit inducing to say the least, what a clueless, out of touch bastard. nt mother earth May 2015 #32
Hey mr criminal issa... Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #33
Exactly! butterfly77 May 2015 #47
He needs to get out more... Feron May 2015 #34
His district is on the Pacific Coast between LA and San Diego n2doc May 2015 #35
Ahh, the "they have running water, refrigerators, and toilets. How poor could they be?" argument PersonNumber503602 May 2015 #36
Why he is allowed to breathe? nt valerief May 2015 #38
ONLY. ... in this great nation Plucketeer May 2015 #40
Issa is the richest man in Congress? KamaAina May 2015 #42
Whatta a phuckstick Darrell Issa is! TheDebbieDee May 2015 #43
it is physically impossible to be this fucking dumb cindyperry May 2015 #44
This is what the TPP is all about. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #45
+1. nt candelista May 2015 #59
Oh for fuck sake! americannightmare May 2015 #46
Instead of Arguing RobinA May 2015 #48
Then go steal a car and join them, Darrel. truthisfreedom May 2015 #49
This is what we're up against folks. lovemydog May 2015 #50
There's no way like the American Way. mahatmakanejeeves May 2015 #51
If the folks in the picture were white kacekwl May 2015 #55
Car Alarms? HassleCat May 2015 #52
That's kind of like saying OnionPatch May 2015 #54
This argument just blows me out of the water. leftyladyfrommo May 2015 #56
The guy is a WARPED subhuman. n/t vkkv May 2015 #57
Sounds like a bumper sticker: "America - Best Place to Be Poor. Vote GOP 2016." Vinca May 2015 #61
Ask the protesters in Baltimore ... Martin Eden May 2015 #62
Grand Theft Issa up to his usual crap. riqster May 2015 #63
Wealth disparity is more detrimental to health than absolute poverty. McCamy Taylor May 2015 #65
Why doesn't darrell fucking issa give away all his ill gotten gains and become one of those Cha May 2015 #66
Darrell Issa dickwad... and asshole to boot. bluegopher May 2015 #67
I bet that's what the rich mans said to Lazarus, mutatis mutandis. Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #69
My God! You said "mutatis mutandis"! candelista May 2015 #70
Well, I figured that anyone who can't guess the sense of it, Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #71
Here's a link. candelista May 2015 #73
Thanks, candelista. Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #75
Ghost Hunter DreamSmoker May 2015 #72
Asia's & Africa's poor do envy America & Europe JonLP24 May 2015 #76
Hello Cleveland! JohnnyRingo May 2015 #78
not the scandinavian countries, canada, UK, germany, france.... BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #79
Fuck Darrell Issa Dr Rise May 2015 #80
Despite the best efforts of the GOP. nt killbotfactory May 2015 #81
Interesting Read, thanks! feedrover2415 May 2015 #82
He's right Dopers_Greed May 2015 #83
Ask my Somalian friend Margaret how "lucky" are the American Poor? mntleo2 May 2015 #84
You've said so much here. hunter May 2015 #88
thanks for the story, it's enlightening wordpix May 2015 #91
how did Issa get so rich? Last I read he was engaging in insurance fraud wordpix May 2015 #90
and our poor people usually get to eat. barbtries May 2015 #92
America's rich are the envy of the world mb999 May 2015 #93
Darrell Issa is the United State's Marie Antoinette. More cake, please. jalan48 May 2015 #94
He is admitting what the TPP is all about—a race to the bottom. Enthusiast May 2015 #97

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
37. Yeah, America is a fabulous place:
Thu May 7, 2015, 06:54 PM
May 2015

It is where a person who has money can get away with crimes and then get elected to congress.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
2. oh this sh*t again
Thu May 7, 2015, 03:48 PM
May 2015

if you're not living in a thatch hut with a dirt floor and no running water or electricity and your children are not dieing of starvation then you're not really poor

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
4. Obviously this man has never been
Thu May 7, 2015, 03:51 PM
May 2015

in the mountains of West Virginia. I have driven through that area and there is some pretty damned desperate situations. I remember stopping to read my map and looking at a burned out trailer and thinking how terrible it was that people lost there home. Then I noticed people were still living in it.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
85. The poverty here is really stunning.
Sun May 10, 2015, 10:21 AM
May 2015

I live in Morgantown, but not 5 minutes outside town limits is some of the most crushing poverty I've ever seen.

And I travel in and research Latin America for a living.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
64. Hey, give the GOP time
Fri May 8, 2015, 03:36 PM
May 2015

those "miracles" of thatched huts with no running water or electricity takes time. Can't spring it on the sheep all at once, it takes time to dismantle a standard of living. But, they are doing a good job.

calimary

(81,125 posts)
68. Yep, he's a shit stain alright.
Sat May 9, 2015, 01:07 PM
May 2015

An embarrassment to California if ever there was one. And we have some doozies to our "credit" - including nixon, reagan, and that marvelous Proposition 13.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
13. The've been doing this for quite some time
Thu May 7, 2015, 04:16 PM
May 2015

Compare america's poor to third world nations convinces the goobers who vote for them that our working poor have it too good. Its also a way of stripping benefits from those who are already struggling to stay afloat.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
53. And once the working poor are stripped of all the benefits that the Repugs resent
Fri May 8, 2015, 09:51 AM
May 2015

them getting, they will be living in true third world poverty and the Republicans will be satisfied.

elleng

(130,746 posts)
5. Right, the envy of the world because
Thu May 7, 2015, 03:51 PM
May 2015

the food that poor Americans can't afford is so much BETTER than the food poor people in other countries can't afford.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
7. Fascism
Thu May 7, 2015, 03:55 PM
May 2015

When you attack poor people thats fascism.
This is the same old bullshit these assholes have been spewing for 50 fucking years.

Its fascism. We need to call it that

appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
95. I don't know why many Dems. and the left abstain from using the term fascism,
Mon May 11, 2015, 10:59 AM
May 2015

that's what it is and if the shoe fits wear it. However, millions in the US are ignorant of history and what is happening in these times thanks to degraded public education and corporate M$M. There's no end to the right's slamming government, Washington DC, Democrats, Progressives and Obama as being un-American, unpatriotic communist reds and raging socialists. We have moved into a merger world of governments and corporations, our civil and human rights are challenged and we are losing our democratic institutions; hallmarks of fascist states among others.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
9. Well, that's true, in a limited sense.
Thu May 7, 2015, 04:06 PM
May 2015

The typical poor American does have an easier life than, for example, a poor person living in the slums of Lagos, Nigeria. Any place colonialism, capitalism, war, and corruption have destroyed traditional communities and societies you might find people living in abject, hopeless, squalor. Where you find traditional communities and societies intact you might find people living in "poverty" -- as defined by western, material standards -- but living fulfilling, meaningful, and content lives.

Issa is a fucking idiot, and "envy of the world" is an empty and arrogant saying.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
11. The world is a big place
Thu May 7, 2015, 04:08 PM
May 2015

Personally, if I had my choice of country to be poor in, the US would not be my first choice. My first choice would be a country with a functional universal health system.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
77. Those people are capsizing in boats by the hundreds on a weekly basis
Sat May 9, 2015, 04:37 PM
May 2015

saving up enough money to pay the fees human smugglers offer overflowing them with refugees & poverty stricken Africans & Southwest Asians. Many Nigerians in fact.

louis-t

(23,273 posts)
12. "those in poverty here are better off"
Thu May 7, 2015, 04:11 PM
May 2015

Don't worry Darrell, we'll soon be exactly like India when it comes to wealth inequality.

By the way, the last line should read "stems from a car alarm business he built after being accused and/or indicted for grand theft auto, arson, and insurance fraud.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
86. India has universal health care. Which country would you prefer to be poor in?
Sun May 10, 2015, 11:10 AM
May 2015

Issa'a an ass but that doesn'the change the fact that America'a poor are still among the wealthiest people in the world.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
16. Considering he's a national elected official, he's either lying, or stupid.
Thu May 7, 2015, 04:39 PM
May 2015

He damn well should know that income inequality in the US is FAR worse than it is in India. In fact, only Russia, the Ukraine, and Lebanon are worse.

https://publications.credit-suisse.com/tasks/render/file/?fileID=BCDB1364-A105-0560-1332EC9100FF5C83

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. The poor in India are in worse shape than the poor in the US
Thu May 7, 2015, 04:47 PM
May 2015

I hope you are not disputing that.

Where he is wrong is when he says "the envy of the world" as there are many countries in the world with a much more substantial safety net (most of Europe for example) and those poor would certainly not envy ours.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
18. Did you even read the opening post?
Thu May 7, 2015, 04:54 PM
May 2015

Issa claims that income inequality is worse in India. Point blank, no, it isn't; income inequality is worse in the US.

The standard of living is likely lower in India than the US, but that's a VERY different issue.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
87. Depends on how you measure it
Sun May 10, 2015, 11:11 AM
May 2015

By Gini they beat us; by absolute spread we beat them. A person poorer than 99% of Americans is richer than 98% of Indians (but three of the world's ten richest people live in Mumbai).

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
89. Did you ever encounter a Republican you wouldn't 'meet half way'?
Sun May 10, 2015, 12:20 PM
May 2015

Didn't think so. Some Democrat you are.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
19. When a Republican Congressman talks like that . . .
Thu May 7, 2015, 04:59 PM
May 2015

. . . it's because he views it as a problem for which cutting Social Security and food stamps and eliminating the earned income credit is the solution.

appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
96. +5 The set up for more cuts to the safey net and no whining about more job losses cuz
Mon May 11, 2015, 11:17 AM
May 2015

you Americans have it real good, from a sociopath and convicted felon no less. Where are the Dems. to refute this audacity?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
21. Come on down Issa. Come down here with nothing of your own. Let us set up a situation like we
Thu May 7, 2015, 05:04 PM
May 2015

live in for you and you get to live in it for one year. Bring you family with you. Duplicate our lives and then tell us what you think. One of us will trade places with you.

Yes, it could be worse. But isn't this what America is all about? Giving people a chance? What is wrong with being the envy of the world? And isn't that what is disappearing with R control?

As usual he is an idiot.

LeftInTX

(25,141 posts)
22. If being poor is the "envy the world", then let's take Darrell's money away
Thu May 7, 2015, 05:06 PM
May 2015

and let him live poor.

We could film it. It would make for a cool reality show.

asjr

(10,479 posts)
23. Issa is pure evil. I wish someone would take
Thu May 7, 2015, 05:07 PM
May 2015

a long pole and plant it in one of his orifices , then plant it in a corn field to shoo off the birds.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
25. this bullshit again?????
Thu May 7, 2015, 05:19 PM
May 2015

we're talking income inequality in the USA, jerk. Go to hell Issa.........

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
27. n2doc
Thu May 7, 2015, 05:28 PM
May 2015

n2doc

No thanks - I might be seen as a poor man - but I would far more be a poor man in Norway - rather than being a poor man in the US - if I had been - I would not be around - because of not being treated for ilnesses..... Mr Issa is so full about himself - that he might believe what he state.... But for the most part he is just full of it....

But then again - rich tend to belive in their own wacume, and he might be one of them, who do belive it...

Stupid man - and he is elected to the US Congress.. It is a reason US going to hell in a handbasket...

Diclotican

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
29. Issa thinks America's poor should be knocked down a peg so that we're more in line with
Thu May 7, 2015, 05:45 PM
May 2015

"India or other third world countries?"

Even his personal business is to capitalize on fear. What a shithead.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
30. Issa's wealth has doubled in the last few years
Thu May 7, 2015, 05:47 PM
May 2015

Doubt it was from doubled viper revenue.

And this remark sure reminds me of Mitt's enthusiasm about slave factories in Asia ( "the fence was to keep them from
getting IN!&quot There is really something deeply wrong with their brains (morals, values, sense of human decency, humanity....)

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
33. Hey mr criminal issa...
Thu May 7, 2015, 06:39 PM
May 2015

Shove it where the sun don't shine! Your "class" is nothing but hoarders on steroids! Learn to share Mr. sociopath!

There should be NO POOR living in any country on this earth! We are all born onto this earth we are all equally deserving of the resources if this earth.

Feron

(2,063 posts)
34. He needs to get out more...
Thu May 7, 2015, 06:46 PM
May 2015

There are places in America that resemble Third World countries. And help isn't coming.

Poverty, sadly, isn't hard to find in America and Issa needs to get outside of his bubble. Talk about out of touch!

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
35. His district is on the Pacific Coast between LA and San Diego
Thu May 7, 2015, 06:49 PM
May 2015

So I doubt he sees much extreme poverty. Of avoids it when he can.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
40. ONLY. ... in this great nation
Thu May 7, 2015, 07:31 PM
May 2015

Could a lying thief get wealthy selling anti-theft hardware - AND...complain about how he's being screwed by those who can't even afford a car!

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
45. This is what the TPP is all about.
Thu May 7, 2015, 07:56 PM
May 2015

Politicians who see desperate people around the world who will sacrifice their health and environment for the chance to feed their families.

They want that desperation everywhere.

RobinA

(9,886 posts)
48. Instead of Arguing
Fri May 8, 2015, 08:33 AM
May 2015

about whose poor are the worse off, shouldn't the response to the comparison be, "So what?" Mr. Issa, is this really a contest? We should be making it possible for all our citizens who wish to to live at a level that is acceptable to us as a nation. A civilized nation is not one that has people living less crappy lives than some other nation, it's one where no one is living a crappy life.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,313 posts)
51. There's no way like the American Way.
Fri May 8, 2015, 09:37 AM
May 2015


Margaret Bourke-White—Time & Life Pictures/Getty Images

During the Great Ohio River Flood of 1937, men and women in Louisville, Kentucky, line up seeking food and clothing from a relief station, in front of a billboard proclaiming, "World's Highest Standard of Living."

For information on this photograph: Behind the Picture: ‘The American Way’ and the Flood of ’37

kacekwl

(7,014 posts)
55. If the folks in the picture were white
Fri May 8, 2015, 10:04 AM
May 2015

I would think it was the line for free breakfast , lunch , dinner , coffee , etc at the congressional dining room.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
52. Car Alarms?
Fri May 8, 2015, 09:38 AM
May 2015

Now I know who to blame for that "REE REE REE WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP" that wakes me up at 2:00 AM. And he got rich doing it. There is no justice!

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
65. Wealth disparity is more detrimental to health than absolute poverty.
Sat May 9, 2015, 01:17 AM
May 2015

Wealth disparity is a sign of a sick society. And Issa is still an idiot.

Cha

(296,867 posts)
66. Why doesn't darrell fucking issa give away all his ill gotten gains and become one of those
Sat May 9, 2015, 03:55 AM
May 2015

"most admired people" then?!!!!

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
70. My God! You said "mutatis mutandis"!
Sat May 9, 2015, 01:31 PM
May 2015

I have never seen that before on any internet news or discussion site. You are too well educated for DU. Dumb yourself down immediately!


Saint Lazarus

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
71. Well, I figured that anyone who can't guess the sense of it,
Sat May 9, 2015, 02:27 PM
May 2015

can Google it easily genuff. Oddly enough, I seem to have sparked off an epidemic of 'et al's n the Net, one, which should have been 'etc'. But I'm a natural-born drop-out, and I'm paying for it now, as my brother-in-law is always trying to impress me with his BA! A humble gnuff accreditation it seems to me.

Nice pictures. Where are they from? I'm sure they're medieval, and I might even have seen some frescoes by the same artist.The older I get, the more I seem to enjoy that naive style of painting.

DreamSmoker

(841 posts)
72. Ghost Hunter
Sat May 9, 2015, 03:12 PM
May 2015

This is the Asshole who chased Hillary for two years now and got squat...
Making bold statement as if Hillary is guilty of the highest crimes in Government..

I had no idea that he was the Richest member in Congress..
Part of the Elite like Romney... Has no clue how the average Americans way of life is a struggle..
Those equal opportunities all but gone for the rest of us..

A Top Dog for the Corporate agenda all along..

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
76. Asia's & Africa's poor do envy America & Europe
Sat May 9, 2015, 04:35 PM
May 2015

Anywhere with an economic opportunity but I believe many see America through rose colored glasses. No doubt better than where they are coming from but better than it really is, remarkable considering they were subcontractors being human trafficked by subcontractors of KBR that I had the privilege of meeting. Not to mention someone always had to pull guard and "watch the TCNs"

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
78. Hello Cleveland!
Sat May 9, 2015, 07:05 PM
May 2015

"Cleveland audiences are the most rockin' people in the world!!"
Yaaaaay!! WooHoo!

...And now I learn that America's destitute are the luckiest people in the world. yippee

Insulting pander.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
79. not the scandinavian countries, canada, UK, germany, france....
Sat May 9, 2015, 08:09 PM
May 2015

And those are just off the top of my head.

mntleo2

(2,535 posts)
84. Ask my Somalian friend Margaret how "lucky" are the American Poor?
Sun May 10, 2015, 05:51 AM
May 2015

First a little back story about Margaret:
...She is my Shero in so many ways. One time, while we were protesting about funding the poor together I asked her which was worse ~ being poor in America or being poor in Somalia? I expected the obvious answer, but before I tell you what she said here is a little bit of her story:

Margaret's entire family was killed, her children, her husband and her home was destroyed. So she fled to a refugee camp where she was raped and used for slave labor.

When the Catholic church rescued Margaret and brought her to America, they gave her 2 years to find her way before they withheld any more support. Before she came to America, Margaret left her Muslim faith and became a devout Catholic and she attends mass wherever she can find time. Margaret worked her butt off in a McJob here in Seattle, but did not make enough to pay for a home. So she found herself homeless and on the street for two years, using the nightly shelter system before she could be put in transitional housing. But not before she caught the deadly TB that is going around among the homeless.

I met Margaret while I was working in transitional housing as a computer tech in Americore. I could not help but notice how kindly and helpful she was with other Somalian refugees ~ many of them in shock, not only from the horrors they had experienced in their country, but also with the culture shock they experienced her in America after they were "saved" ~ IF you want to call it that.

While Margaret was from a nuclear family as one wife, many of these Somalians are 2nd or 3rd wives whose husbands abandoned them and their children during the up-rises that left their families in peril. When they were brought here, many of them were left to fend for themselves in a country where they did not speak English and their children were left bereft. They are good people and fiercely proud to become Americans ~ as is Margaret. But they also suffer because they do not know our ways and their children, who are just wonderful kids, are often left to be the breadwinners, especially the eldest males.

Back to Margaret and our protest together. While we were marching at our state capitol, we walked together in solidarity with police on horseback walking besides us and about 2000 others. She noted how friendly they were and that, if this had been in her country, they would have most likely tried to kill us for speaking out. It was then I asked her what she felt about poverty in America and why she was marching in our protest for better funding. Here is what she said (paraphrased because I am telling you from memory):

She said to my surprise. "It is far worse to be poor in America than in Somalia." She continued after I asked her why she felt this way. "In Somalia if you have no home, you go into the forest where indigenous people have lived for eons and they teach you how to live. In America all the indigenous people are not allowed in their forests anymore and they have forgotten how to live in them thanks to U.S. policies which took away their right to their land. If you try to live in the forests in America you would be arrested, nobody is allowed to live there in God's lands that should belong to everyone by God's hands. In Somalia if you have nothing to eat, you glean from the fields and find things to eat in the forests and then even in the city you can build a fire and cook your food, you can make a shelter from whatever materials you can find. There is nothing in America you can find on your own, you have to pay for everything, even if you have to go to the bathroom..."

Margaret continued on while amidst our waving our signs and calling for change, "I am marching because I see the suffering not only of my own people who have come here, but for all Americans who suffer in poverty. This is because in America taking food from a field would be "stealing" and if you tried to build a shelter or make a fire in the city, you would be arrested. Most godly people no matter their faith knows that the world belongs to God, not to certain people who say they "own" all of God's resources when they know they should share them. While they say they love God and Jesus so much, then they already know in their own hearts that they should not keep everything for themselves when they cannot even use all they have while others starve..."

Now I know about people like Darell Issa and how foolish he can be, not only from my own experiences with poverty, but from others who have come to America. He has no idea about being poor in America, all he knows is his mansions and making money off the backs of the poor for his own gain, to hell with anyone else. All he knows is that he can pay for the necessities in life, while the poor here have to pay for every single little thing they need ~ except perhaps the air we breathe, which is becoming more polluted every day by Issa's friends and for which the poor will pay for in the 17% taxes they pay more than any other class. They cannot go into the forest and make their way as those in Somalia could. They cannot live in the city, which is a desert and a wasteland for those who are poor. How "lucky is anyone to be poor and an American living in conditions like that? Darrell Issa is an idiot and ignorant!

Cat in Seattle
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hunter

(38,303 posts)
88. You've said so much here.
Sun May 10, 2015, 12:13 PM
May 2015

In the U.S.A. the first thing our society robs from the poor is their free agency and dignity.

Suddenly the poor are like the children of abusive parents, people who have to be told what to do and how to live, and if they do not "obey," if they are not able to "conform," then they are severely punished, physically beaten, even thrown into prison.

The U.S.A. projects the image of a happy society, but the psychological cruelties and indignities this society inflicts upon everyone, and the poor especially, are one more reason the U.S.A. is not a true first world nation.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
90. how did Issa get so rich? Last I read he was engaging in insurance fraud
Sun May 10, 2015, 05:01 PM
May 2015

stealing cars and burning down bldgs. Now he's worth $1/2 billion? Wow.

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
92. and our poor people usually get to eat.
Mon May 11, 2015, 06:03 AM
May 2015

though some republicans are now writing laws making sure they can't choose what they eat. oh yeah, other poor people only dream of being poor in america.

issa is one of the worst people in congress imo

mb999

(89 posts)
93. America's rich are the envy of the world
Mon May 11, 2015, 09:11 AM
May 2015

and everything that people in the past have fought for in this country is being eroded because of voting for plutocrat assholes like this that want to reduce us to the conditions in India.

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