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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Wed May 13, 2015, 09:35 PM May 2015

ELDERLY CANCER PATIENT CALLS 911 BECAUSE HE HAS NO FOOD

Source: abc1@

When 81-year-old Clarence Blackmon returned home Tuesday after spending months in the hospital for cancer treatments and rehab, his refrigerator was empty.

He had nothing to eat and no way to get to the store. Hungry and desperate, he called 911. He asked the operator if someone could go to the store for him and buy some groceries.

He told the operator whatever she could do would help.

"I can't do anything. I can't go anywhere. I can't get out of my damn chair," Blackmon said in his 911 call.

___
Blackmon told Hinson that all he wanted was a head of cabbage, some cans of beans and beets, some popcorn, tomato juice, and soft drinks.

Read more: http://abc11.com/society/elderly-cancer-patient-calls-911-because-he-has-no-food-/718448/

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ELDERLY CANCER PATIENT CALLS 911 BECAUSE HE HAS NO FOOD (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA May 2015 OP
Just so sad marym625 May 2015 #1
delivery of the food Liberal_in_LA May 2015 #7
look at that frail little man. He used to be a child who roguevalley May 2015 #12
It made me mad and then I cried. 840high May 2015 #15
I could not even get mad, I just cried, 840high. nt sheshe2 May 2015 #41
... 840high May 2015 #48
Thank you for the pictures marym625 May 2015 #20
Most, if not all hospitals do have such social serivce workers. Hoppy May 2015 #69
Would like to know marym625 May 2015 #70
welcome to third way dem and demented repug America roguevalley May 2015 #11
I don't like it here marym625 May 2015 #23
America, Fuck Yeah! nt onehandle May 2015 #2
He was in a hospital for months...he was 81...he had to have a social worker of some kind. Not libdem4life May 2015 #3
actually, my niece is a nurse. This is normal. roguevalley May 2015 #14
Every hospital I have been in or near has to have an exit plan. Someone took him home. libdem4life May 2015 #24
Every so often the LA Times prints another granny-dumping story from Skid Row, no less Hekate May 2015 #45
Even on Skid Row, people come down and try to help. You can't help someone who doesn't want libdem4life May 2015 #49
In my experience dealing with older relatives, the discharge plan kicks in Lydia Leftcoast May 2015 #56
Sent home...means they have a home and someone like a relative takes them? libdem4life May 2015 #58
You must be thinking of some civilized country, not America. I guess you haven't valerief May 2015 #57
Definitely not Aerows May 2015 #64
No, it's not normal. Hospitals are supposed to have social workers who plan for after-care. pnwmom May 2015 #34
In what state is that normal? procon May 2015 #59
See post 49 Jesus Malverde May 2015 #63
My parents are in their mid eighties.They do have home nurses and physical therapists visit but my 1monster May 2015 #16
Every hospital has a hospital social worker. We are talking about a dismissal, not home health libdem4life May 2015 #26
Social workers don't grow on trees, but they work in hospitals, pnwmom May 2015 #35
Believe me - it happens. 840high May 2015 #21
Please tell me how it happens. libdem4life May 2015 #27
watch michael moore's "sicko" niyad May 2015 #30
As I said, if the hospital did not authorize an exit plan, I'd have my attorney over there post libdem4life May 2015 #38
here - one example 840high May 2015 #33
This man was over 65, which makes him eligible for a host of services unavailable, pnwmom May 2015 #36
Sorry, I can't make out what you wrote. libdem4life May 2015 #39
My apology - quick copy and paste. 840high May 2015 #47
Sometimes it takes a while for services to start Warpy May 2015 #60
That's what he gets for getting cancer and being too onecaliberal May 2015 #4
Heartbreaking. KarenS May 2015 #5
I worked the Omaha Police Dept front desk the last couple years of my career Omaha Steve May 2015 #6
glad to hear that people care Liberal_in_LA May 2015 #13
you rock, Steve nt steve2470 May 2015 #43
Tell me again SCVDem May 2015 #8
There is a number at the link to call the PD if you can help. leftofcool May 2015 #9
Try 211.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #10
what the hell....that human has NO FOOD>>>>WTF? irisblue May 2015 #17
I hope that someone can help him apply for meals on wheels. totodeinhere May 2015 #18
I was thinking that also Archae May 2015 #40
if we help him, then what incentive will cancer patients have to cure themselves? whereisjustice May 2015 #19
Ouch. So fu@king true. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2015 #46
Before a patient is discharged LibDemAlways May 2015 #22
and there are idiots that would call him a 'taker'...fuck them all SummerSnow May 2015 #25
The hospital needs to be sued...he'd win. They have legal liability for releasing him without an libdem4life May 2015 #28
watch "sicko" and then tell us about him winning a suit. niyad May 2015 #32
I've never heard of a hospital that doesn't plan for after-care and would release any patient, pnwmom May 2015 #29
bless that dispatcher and those who helped. and damnation to whoever just dumped him at home niyad May 2015 #31
Someday.... Boomer May 2015 #37
I also will add that if he lacking emotional or intellectual skills, the social worker libdem4life May 2015 #42
we live in a christian nation. our resources go to the military industrial complex. tough luck nt msongs May 2015 #44
No, we do NOT live in a Christian nation. Chef Eric May 2015 #53
I dream of, one day, awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #50
This is what happens when you let tens of millions of people fall into poverty or near poverty jtuck004 May 2015 #51
This is what is wrong, very wrong with our healthcare system. And those Repugs want to cut Medicaid YOHABLO May 2015 #52
K & R. Can't write anything now about this ugly, cruel country. Poor, dear man. appalachiablue May 2015 #54
*** Follow-up article with more info as to how this happened... SaveOurDemocracy May 2015 #55
thx for more details Liberal_in_LA May 2015 #72
Wonder if they have meals on wheels? That program delivers hot meals to shut-ins and keeps an jwirr May 2015 #61
A for profit privatized health care system failure. herding cats May 2015 #62
Blatant Example of a Dysfunctional Nation Aerows May 2015 #65
I can see this happening dembotoz May 2015 #66
News rarely makes me cry. This was the exception. Vinca May 2015 #67
If he didn't have a phone...... Sunlei May 2015 #68
If you can't add to corporate profits anymore, no more pudding. harun May 2015 #71

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
12. look at that frail little man. He used to be a child who
Wed May 13, 2015, 09:47 PM
May 2015

would never in his darkest days know his country would be such a colossal fucker. I am so happy he did this. Bless him and his helpers. I still can't get past his predicament. That man looks like my dad before he died.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
20. Thank you for the pictures
Wed May 13, 2015, 09:53 PM
May 2015

So glad they did this. How is it we don't have services that would have made sure he had everything he needed before he got home?

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
69. Most, if not all hospitals do have such social serivce workers.
Thu May 14, 2015, 08:22 AM
May 2015

They ask if the person has help at home and so forth.

Cousin was 78 and in hospital for 6 weeks. All she wanted to do was to get out of the hospital and go home and be independent.

Simply, she lied to the social worker about her home resources. We were in the room with the social worker when she lied. Later, we corrected the social worker.

So she arranged for a visiting nurse to come every day and she was discharged from hospital. The next morning, she fired the visiting nurse.

Two days later, the neighbor who had a key, found her on the floor and she was readmitted to hospital.

The problem with the elder man may not have been the fault of the hospital or the system...

marym625

(17,997 posts)
70. Would like to know
Thu May 14, 2015, 10:35 AM
May 2015

I suspect that it wasn't him. I know that some of the social workers in hospitals really don't care. I know this from personal experience

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
3. He was in a hospital for months...he was 81...he had to have a social worker of some kind. Not
Wed May 13, 2015, 09:41 PM
May 2015

saying it didn't happen, but he must not have all his faculties. Someone took him home. Likely he has neighbors. Still sounds a bit fishy to me.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
24. Every hospital I have been in or near has to have an exit plan. Someone took him home.
Wed May 13, 2015, 09:57 PM
May 2015

Dumping people without food or a plan is not normal, I'm sorry. And in my case, it was the nurse and the hospital social worker who worked it out. And surely he had Food Stamps. If they did, he has a case against them.

My ex-brother in law owned a hospital and if there is no family, social services takes over.

Hekate

(90,681 posts)
45. Every so often the LA Times prints another granny-dumping story from Skid Row, no less
Wed May 13, 2015, 10:42 PM
May 2015

Old people sent off in a taxi from the hospital, some in their hospital gowns, when it's time to discharge them. Why Skid Row, you ask? Because that's where "services" for the indigent are to be had, if you know where they are and if you can totter there from the sidewalk.

Presbyterian Hospital's name keeps popping up. They were sold to a for-profit outfit that kept the name, so it has nothing to do with the Presbyterian Church. If I was on the Board of that denomination, I'd sue to get the name changed.

"Outrageous" hardly begins to cover it.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
49. Even on Skid Row, people come down and try to help. You can't help someone who doesn't want
Wed May 13, 2015, 10:56 PM
May 2015

help until they agree to it. Often the adult children/family end up just walking away. We fought for my Mom (it took all four of us) and against her wishes, we won. Same with the other situation...against her will. Same for driving...hide the car keys...not a pleasant family time.

And yes, I know there are all kinds of sociological issues here, but apparently he has a house and it looked like a decent neighborhood, and now he'll get help permanently. The bottom line, there are services available. I had an elderly friend in the hospital. The first day the hospital Social Worker came in and left her card. Now someone comes in once or twice a week.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
56. In my experience dealing with older relatives, the discharge plan kicks in
Wed May 13, 2015, 11:54 PM
May 2015

only if the patient is supposed to go to a nursing home afterwards. The social worker phones around and finds a place with an opening.

Otherwise, the patient is just sent home.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
58. Sent home...means they have a home and someone like a relative takes them?
Thu May 14, 2015, 12:22 AM
May 2015

I'm having a hard time conceiving of the concept that American hospitals throw people out in the street. This guy had a very nice home, based on the photos. He wasn't impoverished. Probably needs a Court Conservator, if no family is available.

This thread is fascinating. Seems perhaps an age difference in experiences and opinions?

valerief

(53,235 posts)
57. You must be thinking of some civilized country, not America. I guess you haven't
Thu May 14, 2015, 12:21 AM
May 2015

seen all the stories of curbside drop-offs of hospital patients left to fend for themselves.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
64. Definitely not
Thu May 14, 2015, 02:03 AM
May 2015

thinking of America. Canada. The UK. Scandinavian countries. Israel. Germany, France, and countries where people actually get health care and think nothing of it.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
34. No, it's not normal. Hospitals are supposed to have social workers who plan for after-care.
Wed May 13, 2015, 10:13 PM
May 2015

That's normal.

And Fayetteville is in a County with the typical roster of services for the elderly. Someone should have arranged for Meals on Wheels, for example.

http://www.ccccooa.org/mealsonwheels/

procon

(15,805 posts)
59. In what state is that normal?
Thu May 14, 2015, 12:44 AM
May 2015

It not normal. I worked as an RN in California for 30+ years and no patient is ever discharged out if they can't care for themselves or don't have a reliable support system to assist them. It even happened to me as a post op patient because I could not get in and out of bed without help so I had to go stay at my brother's until I was strong enough to be on my own again.

Even in an impoverished state like Arkansas, that poor old man should have never been sent home without having already met with someone to establish his needs and the home care assistance would have available the same day as his release to see that he had what he needed. If it was unavailable then he would have spent a few days in another non-acute care facility until everything was in place. If he was so frail that couldn't even get out of his chair then he was not suitable for a home discharge and should have been transferred to a facility the provided the appropriate level of care he needed.

There are very severe federal penalties for hospitals that get caught dumping patients out of acute care facilities to free up the bed space. He never should have been in a situation that left him starving, and I hope someone care enough to investigate what happened and make sure it never happens to anyone else.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
63. See post 49
Thu May 14, 2015, 01:34 AM
May 2015

Nevada also has a history of dumping patients in California, and as mentioned above Cali hospitals to skid row.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
16. My parents are in their mid eighties.They do have home nurses and physical therapists visit but my
Wed May 13, 2015, 09:50 PM
May 2015

siblings jump through hoops on a regular basis to see that they do. One or more of them also visit them on a daily basis. I can't help much since I live about 1,000 miles away.

Social workers don't grow on trees and are not necessarily appointed to help those in need. Yes, the hospital should have made sure there was some kind of help for him before discharging him, but that doesn't necessarily mean they did.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
26. Every hospital has a hospital social worker. We are talking about a dismissal, not home health
Wed May 13, 2015, 09:59 PM
May 2015

care.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
35. Social workers don't grow on trees, but they work in hospitals,
Wed May 13, 2015, 10:14 PM
May 2015

among other places. Hospitals are supposed to use them for discharge planning.

They should have put him in touch with the services his county offers for the elderly, including Meals on wheels.

http://www.ccccooa.org/mealsonwheels/

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
38. As I said, if the hospital did not authorize an exit plan, I'd have my attorney over there post
Wed May 13, 2015, 10:20 PM
May 2015

haste, or he should not have been released. And I'm happy he got people to help and it's a disgrace he needed to call 911. Perhaps one of them will connect him with living services. Medicare/Medicaid covers that.

I don't need a referral to Michael Moore. We have a nurse and a doctor in the family.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
33. here - one example
Wed May 13, 2015, 10:12 PM
May 2015

Dumped On Skid Row - CBS News
www.cbsnews.com/news/dumped-on-skid-row/
CBS News
May 17, 2007 - The first rule in medicine is: do no harm. ... literally dump them on the streets of Skid Row, even if the patients ... The tape shows a 63-year-old homeless woman named Carol Ann ... Asked if he was surprised to see Reyes get out of the taxi, Rev. ... health-care requirements" before discharging any patient.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
36. This man was over 65, which makes him eligible for a host of services unavailable,
Wed May 13, 2015, 10:16 PM
May 2015

unfortunately, to a homeless younger person.

Like Meals on Wheels, which is available in his county.

http://www.ccccooa.org/mealsonwheels/

Warpy

(111,256 posts)
60. Sometimes it takes a while for services to start
Thu May 14, 2015, 12:45 AM
May 2015

Chances are he was put in for Meals on Wheels, but they have a waiting list so...

Elder services in this country SUCK, especially for people who have outlived their friends and families but aren't sick enough to go to a nursing home.

onecaliberal

(32,856 posts)
4. That's what he gets for getting cancer and being too
Wed May 13, 2015, 09:41 PM
May 2015

Lazy to work plus he should have thought about that before he got out of the hospital.

Omaha Steve

(99,628 posts)
6. I worked the Omaha Police Dept front desk the last couple years of my career
Wed May 13, 2015, 09:41 PM
May 2015

In Omaha 911 would have transferred the call to the OPD front desk. We would have called the precinct Sgt. and got it taken care of.

OS


leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
9. There is a number at the link to call the PD if you can help.
Wed May 13, 2015, 09:42 PM
May 2015

Anyone in that area who posts on DU help if you can.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
46. Ouch. So fu@king true.
Wed May 13, 2015, 10:51 PM
May 2015

Or his neighbors should help him because isn't Amerca the bestest.


God, I hate that shit.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
22. Before a patient is discharged
Wed May 13, 2015, 09:54 PM
May 2015

from the local hospital here in my corner of So. Cal. a social worker arrives with a bunch of questions regarding the person's home situation. An elderly, infirm person would not be sent home to an empty house to fend for him or herself. Some sort of arrangement with a friend, relative, neighbor, or social services organization would have to be made to assure that his basic needs would be met. After my mother had surgery last year, I had to provide assurances that she would be well cared for by family before they would let her go.

It's unconscienable that that man had nowhere else to turn except a 911 operator. We can and should do better.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
28. The hospital needs to be sued...he'd win. They have legal liability for releasing him without an
Wed May 13, 2015, 10:06 PM
May 2015

Exit Plan. Hell, that's why they make you ride out in a wheel chair even if you can walk. And they must stay with you until the transportation comes.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
29. I've never heard of a hospital that doesn't plan for after-care and would release any patient,
Wed May 13, 2015, 10:07 PM
May 2015

much less an elderly patient, like this.

If true, this is terrible. The hospital should have arranged for services from Meals on Wheels and other county services for the elderly.

http://www.ccccooa.org/mealsonwheels/

niyad

(113,302 posts)
31. bless that dispatcher and those who helped. and damnation to whoever just dumped him at home
Wed May 13, 2015, 10:09 PM
May 2015

without making sure he had everything he needed.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
42. I also will add that if he lacking emotional or intellectual skills, the social worker
Wed May 13, 2015, 10:30 PM
May 2015

will or should set him up for a Court-Monitored Conservator. I don't know this history, but I'm pretty sure that this is likely the next best step. We had to do this for my mother and I helped some else do it for his mother. With this publicity he'll be cared for.

On Edit...it's not The Bad System necessarily, it's often not knowing or understanding the System that is in place. And, often the elder does not want anything to change, no matter how horrific. They fear losing their independence...and they do. It's split many a family apart, as I also worked as Client Relations in a Home Care setting.

Chef Eric

(1,024 posts)
53. No, we do NOT live in a Christian nation.
Wed May 13, 2015, 11:24 PM
May 2015

The fact that most Americans identify themselves as Christian does NOT make us a Christian nation. The fact is that we've NEVER been a Christian nation. And many of us non-Christians really don't appreciate people claiming otherwise.

It's bad enough that we frequently hear this sort of nonsense from the idiots on the religious right. We certainly don't need to hear it repeated by Democrats on DU.

Rant over.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
50. I dream of, one day,
Wed May 13, 2015, 11:00 PM
May 2015

retiring to my native Ohio. The problem is, all my family is here. I fear I would end up in the same situation one day. People just don't get to know their neighbors anymore.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
51. This is what happens when you let tens of millions of people fall into poverty or near poverty
Wed May 13, 2015, 11:00 PM
May 2015

while enriching the bank$ter/donor friends of the party and pretend it's a recovery.

Like provisioning for insurance for ten million and leaving them hungry. What an accomplishment.


 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
52. This is what is wrong, very wrong with our healthcare system. And those Repugs want to cut Medicaid
Wed May 13, 2015, 11:17 PM
May 2015

Medicare, and do away with Social Security. It makes me so mad I want to scream

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
54. K & R. Can't write anything now about this ugly, cruel country. Poor, dear man.
Wed May 13, 2015, 11:33 PM
May 2015

Many people are unaware of this and how systemic it is, b/c of no time, following mostly M$M.

SaveOurDemocracy

(4,400 posts)
55. *** Follow-up article with more info as to how this happened...
Wed May 13, 2015, 11:54 PM
May 2015
http://abc11.com/society/donations-food-pour-in-for-starving-veteran/721324/

...
Many of you asked how Blackmon could wind up in this situation. ABC11 asked DSS officials that same question. The director said they only became aware of Blackmon's plight when we told them. The private rehab center that discharged Blackmon failed to notify DSS officials that he was going home.

A DSS social worker spent several hours with Blackmon Wednesday. They are now taking care of his needs. ...

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
61. Wonder if they have meals on wheels? That program delivers hot meals to shut-ins and keeps an
Thu May 14, 2015, 12:50 AM
May 2015

eye on them.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
62. A for profit privatized health care system failure.
Thu May 14, 2015, 12:58 AM
May 2015

When people ask why I'm apposed to privatized health care, this is the reason. It's about the money, not the people who need the care. In this case an 81 year old man undergoing cancer treatment was sent home by a private rehab facility without any concern for his nonexistent support network. They were finished being paid for his care, and so he was released. This happened to my elderly neighbor three doors down a handful of years back. She was treated at the hospital for a broken ankle, sent to a rehab (private) and later released. They got her a ride home with the local medical transport van, and that was that. They were done with her. Luckily she the next day when she realized she couldn't drive to go get food, in her panic she thought of me giving her my number the year before. We didn't even know each other beyond having talked on a handful of different occasions, but I helped her get things going and get food and services lined up. She had no living family left and was all alone in the world. She didn't know who to call or what to do if she needed help. Actually, I didn't know who to call at first either, but we figured it out together.

These things do happen, I know it to be a fact. The shouldn't, but they do.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
65. Blatant Example of a Dysfunctional Nation
Thu May 14, 2015, 02:06 AM
May 2015

Many in our country call Social Security and Medicare "entitlements". They really should just come right out and say they want people who use such programs to be beggars. Beg for charity, no dignity because you outlived your usefulness, and no respect no matter how much you put into the system.

This is a blatant example of how our nation has become dysfunctional.

dembotoz

(16,803 posts)
66. I can see this happening
Thu May 14, 2015, 06:05 AM
May 2015

Getting out of a Hosp does not mean mobile
I have seen a couple wonderful Hosp social workers and some less than wonderful
And this was with a very involved family member (me)

Vinca

(50,270 posts)
67. News rarely makes me cry. This was the exception.
Thu May 14, 2015, 07:52 AM
May 2015

I'm sure that police dispatcher will take things in hand. She seems like a wonderful person to personally go to the man's home and make him a sandwich.

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