Helmet camera captured deadly Yosemite cliff jump
Source: AP
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) A camera on the helmet of cliff jumper Dean Potter, who died in Yosemite National Park, shows that he may have tried to avoid his friend who slammed into a ridge and then hit the rocks himself a split second later, a park official said.
It's not clear what went wrong, but authorities are using the video captured by Potter's GoPro and other images to reveal how he and Graham Hunt both wearing wingsuits died in the illegal stunt.
Mike Gauthier, the park's chief of staff, said images show that several seconds after the jump, Hunt clipped the right side of a notch in a ridge. Potter swooped left possibly to miss Hunt, Gauthier said, but then hit the rocks just beyond Hunt on the opposite side of the notch.
"It could have been an evasive maneuver," Gauthier told the San Francisco Chronicle in a Tuesday report (http://bit.ly/1Bac3v5 ). "Someone else said they saw a clipped piece of a tree up there, so we don't know for sure."
FULL story at link.
In this Monday, Nov. 15, 2010 photo provided by Tomas Ovalle, extreme athlete Dean Potter stands in front of El Capitan after a speed climbing attempt up El Capitan in Yosemite National Park, Calif. Potter, renowned for his daring and sometimes rogue climbs and BASE jumps, and his climbing partner Graham Hunt were killed Saturday, May 16, 2015 after jumping from a 7,500-foot promontory called Taft Point in Yosemite National Park. (AP Photo/Tomas Ovalle)
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morningfog
(18,115 posts)Certainly not the article.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Who allegedly is instructing you what to feel about this incident?
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Ask a stupid question...
Sgt Preston
(133 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #16)
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DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)It's the heartlessness ...
phil89
(1,043 posts)so what if he was a "white guy"?
Rebubula
(2,868 posts)Wow...what a mean spirited and racist post.
ileus
(15,396 posts)You think he's damaged the cliffs or something?
trillion
(1,859 posts)guy who died first in this jump. And, injury and death is probably why it's an illegal stunt.
hugo_from_TN
(1,069 posts)IDemo
(16,926 posts)he was thinking "God, I love doing this!"
Exultant Democracy
(6,594 posts)Not in some lame car accident getting mowed down by a minivan running late to soccer practice, or the myriad of other mundane deaths that await the majority of us. When you die will the world care even an shred of an iota as much as it care about this?
You can feel sorry for the people they left behind who I am sure are hurting and try to show a modicum of respect to the dead. But don't feel too bad for sounding like a total jerk, I doubt they read this and if they did I doubt they would very much care what a person like you thinks.
ZX86
(1,428 posts)What they did was illegal and for good reason. Those idiots were selfish and stupid and paid the ultimate price. Now some civil servant will have to risk their own safety looking for them, scraping their remains off jagged rocks, and hauling it off in buckets. People who commit suicide in a violent manner whether intentional or not, are extremely selfish. Nobody wants to find and clean up people with gunshots to the head or dismembered bodies splattered across family recreational areas.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)The problem comes when others are impacted by the decisions to live on the edge. If you like to drag race do it somewhere organized...not on the streets. If you like to base jump...do it where it's legal so rescue teams are more able to help when needed.
I have set up and fired professional fireworks displays for more than 20 years. Yes it is dangerous, but I have been through dozens of safety classes and know how to do it safely and legally. Hopefully I never have an accident. The main key though is to make sure the surrounding people remain safe.
Marengo
(3,477 posts)towards your revolutionary street cred.
Lex
(34,108 posts)smdh
sorefeet
(1,241 posts)with him. I hope he didn't have him this time. Poor dog don't have no say so.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)I wish they would leave the dogs at home. Taking them is just wrong.
Brother Buzz
(36,422 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,422 posts)Perhaps he should have had a goat instead.
Hoppy
(3,595 posts)riversedge
(70,204 posts)they did-and together. Horrible way to die but ....maybe for them--they will find peace. I hope their families do
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)I would prefer it to taking 2 years to die from cancer. The biggest shame is that he leaves a girlfriend with children that I think he was a father figure to. I don't know about the younger one. Lots of years lost though.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Hoppy
(3,595 posts)and other people were to risk their lives to save their stupid asses.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)The sport really should cover the societal cost associated with it. I guess the argument could extend to lifeguards on public beaches as well.
Xithras
(16,191 posts)There are places in Yosemite Valley that are incredibly hard to access and dangerous to visit , so they see very little foot traffic. The Ledge Route and Tenaya Canyon are obvious examples, but there are steep and dangerous places along the walls all throughout the Valley.
The NPS's worry isn't the cost of the rescue, but the fact that bodies from jumpers tend to end up high along the Valley walls in these hard to access and dangerous spots. Because the NPS isn't going to just leave dead bodies laying around in the park, it means that another human being has to risk his life to go into those risky places and retrieve it. That danger to others, and not the money involved, is the harm it places on society.
And it's worth mentioning that YOSAR saves very few lives. Yosemite is an incredibly unforgiving place and granite is not soft. When people fall in Yosemite, the result is usually body recovery.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)They jump towards evening to avoid legal entanglements including loss of their equipment. just don,t go looking for a deep pocket if something goes wrong.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,585 posts)in an attempt to get NPS's blessing to pursue their sport. One jumper's parachute didn't open.
Needless to say, they didn't get the permission they sought.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"it harmed no one but himself.." And his family. And his friends. And they will pay a price, too.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)his choice, no harm
he died doing what he loved, I'm sure his family will have many fond memories
happyslug
(14,779 posts)Someone paid for the removal of the bodies and looking at the terrain we are talking about Helicopters. Helicopters fees are NOT cheap.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)That's what some will think at least. I think they should get reimbursed, the same if people get rescued due to their own stupidity.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)So if no one but these daredevils were impacted (literally) - why IS it a violation of the law to do stuff like this??? Other'n bragging rights, the adrenalin rush or MAYBE some revenue return for their GoPro footage, HOW would these stunts be justified? As has been noted here already - there's some significant costs to taxpayers for the "clean-up" of these guy's failed taunt of fate. And even if there was a Gofundme cleanup cost drive, that still doesn't compensate those who put THEIR lives on the line to clean up the public park in the aftermath.
Not just with these jumper sorts - there have been rescue efforts in the past where rescuers lost their lives (or suffered injury) trying to save folks after they'd stupidly backed themselves into a corner. These jumpers were taunting fate - purposely to get their "jollies". I have to wonder if they ever objectively talked about the aftermath of the day they would fail? If you LIVE to taunt the ol' "Reaper", eventually he's gonna be annoyed enough with you to put an end to your teasing him. And from the great beyond, there's what? A heartfelt, but inaudible "sorry!" to those left to clean up (and pay for) the mess?
psychopomp
(4,668 posts)Death by misadventure and suicide in Yosemite always necessitates the involvement of SAR. who have to put their lives just as much on the line to find and retrieve bodies off of ridges and outcrops.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Surely animal carcasses are nothing unusual there.
Who cleans up if an old mountain goat falls?
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Recovering bodies is expensive stuff as well as the investigation into his death. We will pay the bill for this.
packman
(16,296 posts)and jump out of it and avoid all those hard, bumpy things on the way down.
mn9driver
(4,425 posts)Xithras
(16,191 posts)We've been having unsettled weather and winds in Northern California since last Thursday which dumped a bit of rain across most of the state, has been keeping our temperatures below normal, and will be dropping more rain and snow in the Sierra's starting tomorrow. When I heard that he'd been killed, I was a bit surprised that ANYONE would be doing that kind of thing in this weather. While it wasn't raining up there on Saturday, it was still a bit blustery across most of the mountain range.
My guess, as a person who wasn't there, hasn't seen the video, and was 90 miles away when it happened, is that the wind pushed them off course and they missed the notch in the rocks they were aiming for.
Coventina
(27,115 posts)Clearly, that is what is to blame, here....
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Mar 14, 2012 Dean Potters epic jump with Mt. Edens Bat for Lashes as the music.
Clip from the National Geographic documentary "The man who can fly"
jomin41
(559 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)It's all about me!
Monk06
(7,675 posts)Skittles
(153,159 posts)but I concede that life would be very boring indeed if no one took senseless risks
My sympathy to their loved ones
God knows I've taken a few in my life and it's made it more exciting.
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)The inventor of video recording oneself doing something senseless and dangerous was a man by the name of Franz Reichelt and he did this in 1912.
Now we have tv shows on cable that are all about youtube videos of people getting themselves hurt doing stupid stuff.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Gravity wins again. Couldn't see that coming.
More first world, idle rich folk problems.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,185 posts)They don't know when they will die, but it's a good chance it will be soon.
roody
(10,849 posts)PRB
(139 posts)These activities are very dangerous. You have an entire industry that benefits by selling things like equipment, but then people die. It's not worth it. I get tired of seeing this.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)PRB
(139 posts)Pray tell what "stricter penalty" will deter someone who is determined to engage in an activity which has a substantial risk of death?
Let's see... I might die but, OMG there might be a huge fine.
PRB
(139 posts)If people are not deterred, then this will mushroom. It's insidious. Pretty soon you have an entire generation that grows up with this and it sticks. It's called common sense safety.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)You think there is some greater deterrent?
PRB
(139 posts)What about younger people who do this because they take their inspiration from this person? What if being dead is deemed cool? If you're an adult, then you have this responsibility. If you're engaged in sports like this, then it's a given that you will be a role model. Whether you want that responsibility or not. No excuses for poor behavior.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)PRB
(139 posts)If the fine is stiff enough, then you're just hurting in the wallet. Nothing bad ass about getting a fine. It's not like being in jail.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)But skydiving is not illegal, so of course there is a whole industry dedicated to skydiving, and some people will use that equipment for base jumping.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,585 posts)quadrature
(2,049 posts)boomer55
(592 posts)roody
(10,849 posts)Stella_Artois
(860 posts)Only certain sorts of recreation should be legal until everyone is well fed.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts)... is accurate, these guys were daredevils pure and simple. I'm sure they got a serious adrenaline rush doing this, but like anyone who tempts fate enough times, they eventually lost.
I feel sorry for their families.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Since that was the lead on the story.
Never heard of a "wing suit" but I suppose that allowed him in theory to jump and be able to ride it out - some type of parachute like thing?
Crabby Appleton
(5,231 posts)just shows wing suit flying
treestar
(82,383 posts)I did not know that even existed!