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Psephos

(8,032 posts)
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 12:41 AM Jun 2015

ISIS drowns, decapitates 'spies' in brutal new video

Source: AsiaOne News

BAGHDAD - An Islamic State group video released Tuesday showed the jihadists murdering 16 men by drowning them in a cage, decapitating them with explosives and firing a rocket-propelled grenade into a car. The video, apparently shot in Iraq's Nineveh province, was one of the most brutal yet in a series released by the jihadists of killings of opponents in areas under IS control.

IS has executed hundreds of people by gunfire, dozens by beheading, stoned some to death, thrown others from buildings and burned a captured Jordanian pilot alive. Videos of the killings are a key propaganda tool of the jihadists, used to shock and terrify their enemies as well as to draw in new recruits seeking the most brutal and active militant group.

The men killed in the latest video are said to be "spies", with some of them making recorded "confessions". First, the militants lead four men to a car and close the doors, after which one fires a rocket-propelled grenade under the vehicle, setting it alight. A militant is later shown locking five men inside a metal cage, which is then lifted by a crane and submerged in what appears to be a dirty swimming pool. Two cameras affixed to the outside of the cage show the men's deaths in the murky water.

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The last killings show a militant looping blue detonating cord around the necks of seven kneeling men, after which the explosives are set off and some of the men are decapitated.

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Read more: http://news.asiaone.com/news/world/isis-drowns-decapitates-spies-brutal-new-video

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ISIS drowns, decapitates 'spies' in brutal new video (Original Post) Psephos Jun 2015 OP
Barbaric! hrmjustin Jun 2015 #1
Although it appears that they're as bad as the USA, delrem Jun 2015 #2
Why don't you elaborate? leftynyc Jun 2015 #11
Only took to the 2nd post to attempt to make the US the bad guy again! 7962 Jun 2015 #14
Well, they don't have the tech capacity of the US to produce "bug splats" with double-taps delrem Jun 2015 #34
I see everyone asking the leftynyc Jun 2015 #48
+1 King_David Jun 2015 #36
Iraqi's killed in illegal, immoral US war of aggression: delrem Jun 2015 #38
CIA torture report: In Iraq, US abuses, and their consequences, are old news delrem Jun 2015 #39
"We came. We saw. He died. (laughter)" delrem Jun 2015 #40
US regime change in Syria. google it. delrem Jun 2015 #41
Fallujah delrem Jun 2015 #42
Iraq crisis: How Saudi Arabia helped Isis take over the north of the country delrem Jun 2015 #43
Madeleine Albright on the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children: "The price was worth it" delrem Jun 2015 #44
"Yemen: Backing Saudis = Unleashing Al Qaeda" delrem Jun 2015 #45
I don't see ANYTHING leftynyc Jun 2015 #47
Hypocrisy, my righteous friend. delrem Jun 2015 #50
Spare me your hysteria leftynyc Jun 2015 #52
everything seems a wee bit off kilter to you snooper2 Jun 2015 #25
What's off kilter is your world view. Renew Deal Jun 2015 #26
I think they have contests for the coolest way to kill people. Seriously. A morale booster. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #3
In the US they have contests for the coolest way of pretending that they don't kill people. delrem Jun 2015 #4
It can certainly validate one's biases to pretend as such. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #37
They're going to go medieval eventually. joshcryer Jun 2015 #13
Why do I picture Oklahoma taking notes? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #5
Why do you? 6chars Jun 2015 #15
Rachel Maddow did a segment a while back.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #23
Horrible... n/t Little Tich Jun 2015 #6
The cartels do the same day in and day out in Mexico. Are we going to invade them before or after Chakab Jun 2015 #7
Exactly.... Hulk Jun 2015 #10
They don't interview their subjects... joshcryer Jun 2015 #12
They make videos. They just don't get as much play in the Western media, whose obsession with Chakab Jun 2015 #30
Prove that they are using explosives to decapitate people, drowning people in cages, and firing RPG Renew Deal Jun 2015 #27
The cartels may not have perpetrated these particular acts of barbarity, but... Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #28
Have the specifically fired RPGs at people? I have no idea. However, the routinely decapitate, Chakab Jun 2015 #29
With all this free advertising and promotion, the YouTube Snuff Channel is the next stop. PSPS Jun 2015 #8
There is no depth to which these vermin won't stoop. Hulk Jun 2015 #9
Aside from moral outrage 6chars Jun 2015 #16
In the end Plucketeer Jun 2015 #21
Get a grip tabasco Jun 2015 #55
Bush's ISIS. onehandle Jun 2015 #17
+1 Botany Jun 2015 #18
This sounds like the crazy time in Cambodia and Vietnam Android3.14 Jun 2015 #19
ISIS would be more polite FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #20
I really don't understand what they gain by these kinds of videos bigworld Jun 2015 #22
there was an Atlantic article that got at their goals maxsolomon Jun 2015 #32
Scares the shit out of those fighting them eissa Jun 2015 #51
The Bush Administration opened the door LiberalLovinLug Jun 2015 #24
And the Saudis decapitate people who are unfaithful to their spouses. closeupready Jun 2015 #31
always with the equivalency on DU maxsolomon Jun 2015 #33
Exact same punishment for exact same crimes closeupready Jun 2015 #35
I love it. Parsing decapitations, now - suggesting that the Saudis are "merciful". delrem Jun 2015 #46
Yes - it can become more ridiculous leftynyc Jun 2015 #49
Let That Be Your Last Battlefield Bosonic Jun 2015 #53
Tinfoil Hat: They go out of their way to enrage the world FiveGoodMen Jun 2015 #54

delrem

(9,688 posts)
2. Although it appears that they're as bad as the USA,
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:25 AM
Jun 2015

I'm not sure I'm gung-ho on joining the USA war.

Something seems just a wee bit off kilter, here.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
11. Why don't you elaborate?
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 05:34 AM
Jun 2015

What exactly is "off kilter". I'll leave your contention they "appear" to be as bad as the US for the garbage I think it is.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
14. Only took to the 2nd post to attempt to make the US the bad guy again!
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 06:23 AM
Jun 2015

Amazing how low some folks can go.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
34. Well, they don't have the tech capacity of the US to produce "bug splats" with double-taps
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 05:10 PM
Jun 2015

fired from drones by operators sitting in booths 6,000 miles away, so I'll give the US that.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
48. I see everyone asking the
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 05:36 AM
Jun 2015

same question I did and your refusal to answer it except to try and deflect from it. It seems you've gotten yourself quite the reputation for posting without thought and turning any situation into an opportunity to bash the US. If that was your intention - getting that reputation and adding absolutely nothing - you've succeeded brilliantly.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
38. Iraqi's killed in illegal, immoral US war of aggression:
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:26 PM
Jun 2015

"Scientific surveys of Iraqi deaths resulting from the first four years of the Iraq War found that between 151,000 to over one million Iraqis died as a result of conflict during this time. A later study, published in 2011, found that approximately 500,000 Iraqis had died as a result of the conflict since the invasion. Counts of deaths reported in newspapers collated by projects like the Iraq Body Count project found 174,000 Iraqis reported killed between 2003 and 2013, with between 112,000-123,000 of those killed being civilian noncombatants."

delrem

(9,688 posts)
39. CIA torture report: In Iraq, US abuses, and their consequences, are old news
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:29 PM
Jun 2015
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2014/1210/CIA-torture-report-In-Iraq-US-abuses-and-their-consequences-are-old-news-video

"BAGHDAD — While many Americans have expressed shock at the details of CIA interrogation methods revealed Tuesday in a Senate report, there is little such surprise being voiced in Iraq, where the price the US has paid for those policies is also well understood.

After the 2003 invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein, the US military operated scores of detention facilities where brutal and humiliating tactics were used in a bid to stop anti-American insurgents and the spread of Al Qaeda’s franchise in Iraq.

For many Iraqis, the US occupation was defined by chilling episodes of abuse, killings and cover-ups, with the incidents at Abu Ghraib prison high on their list."

delrem

(9,688 posts)
42. Fallujah
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:09 PM
Jun 2015
http://warisacrime.org/uncensored

You have to scroll down through multiple associated horrors, to get to the images from Fallujah.
I can understand why you want to blank your mind to it.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
43. Iraq crisis: How Saudi Arabia helped Isis take over the north of the country
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:27 PM
Jun 2015
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/iraq-crisis-how-saudi-arabia-helped-isis-take-over-the-north-of-the-country-9602312.html

Saudi Arabia and Qatar are US allies. Look up the history of al qaeda, of Osama, and look up "Friends of Libya" and "Friends of Syria".

delrem

(9,688 posts)
45. "Yemen: Backing Saudis = Unleashing Al Qaeda"
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:47 PM
Jun 2015
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-brenner/yemen-backing-saudis-unle_b_7151830.html

This is very wordy, tough going for those with no attention span.
But it does point out *something* that's off kilter, IMO.
Probably not in your opinion, though. Opinions can differ.
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
47. I don't see ANYTHING
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 05:33 AM
Jun 2015

in your many posts that would make the FACT that isis consists of barbaric assholes who would surely cut the heads off every single person voting on this board for some reason or another is "off-kilter". All you've done is trash the US when it comes to their own actions. What the fuck does that have to do with your charge of.....what exactly? You still haven't answered a very simple question. Just more deflection, changing the subject as if that's any kind of explanation or argument. What does Saudi Arabia and Yemen (just to use one of your many useless posts when it comes to actually answering my question) have to do with what I asked? Are you unable to actually explain yourself?

delrem

(9,688 posts)
50. Hypocrisy, my righteous friend.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:58 AM
Jun 2015

And your inability to own the mess your country made. And is still making.
Inability to count the hundreds of thousands of innocents your country killed in a war of CHOICE.

Like a kid kicking an anthill, lighting it on fire, then blaming the ants.

So you claim that I support ISIS? pshhh.
What fucking nerve.

eta: now you go on ignore. My stomach can't take it.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
52. Spare me your hysteria
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 12:23 PM
Jun 2015

All you did was change the subject from the topic of the thread to bash the US - just mindless posting about how the US is nothing but evil while not sparing even one word about isis. It's the only arrow in your quiver and you've worn it out time and time again. You aren't even worth the trouble of putting on ignore and I couldn't possibly care less about the stomach of someone who can't even condemn isis. Your pathetic posting about how the US is worse than isis is nothing but blather but go ahead and keep embarrassing yourself.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
25. everything seems a wee bit off kilter to you
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 02:19 PM
Jun 2015

Might want to just...ponder...that for a little bit

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
3. I think they have contests for the coolest way to kill people. Seriously. A morale booster.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:29 AM
Jun 2015

I seem to recall that in relation to the Jordanian pilot.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
4. In the US they have contests for the coolest way of pretending that they don't kill people.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:37 AM
Jun 2015

It's just the other side of the coin.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
37. It can certainly validate one's biases to pretend as such.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 05:55 PM
Jun 2015

It can certainly validate one's biases to pretend as such...

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
13. They're going to go medieval eventually.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 06:19 AM
Jun 2015

The det-cord around the neck decapitation was pretty fucked up. At the end there was another hostage (who wasn't executed) standing there. Soon to be executed himself, I'm sure.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
23. Rachel Maddow did a segment a while back....
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:50 PM
Jun 2015

Historically, Oklahoma has led the nation in devising methods of execution.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
7. The cartels do the same day in and day out in Mexico. Are we going to invade them before or after
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 02:30 AM
Jun 2015

we send more troops back to Iraq?

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
10. Exactly....
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 04:19 AM
Jun 2015

The cartels have been doing horrific murder for years. These clowns are late to the circus of cowards.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
12. They don't interview their subjects...
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 06:10 AM
Jun 2015

...then post political propaganda alongside the execution videos. That's the biggest difference.

These videos are very effective recruiting tools.

I suspect you've never seen one. I would suggest you not seek them out.

This one is the most brutal video yet. And I've seen some shit.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
30. They make videos. They just don't get as much play in the Western media, whose obsession with
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 02:48 PM
Jun 2015

Islamic terrorism leads them to completely ignore narco terrorism and right-wing terrorism.


http://www.bestgore.com/execution/mexico-drug-cartel-execution-two-men-hanging/


They also have no problem with recruitment. There have been several cases of active duty US military and veterans who were caught either working for or attempting to work for the cartels.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/drug-cartels-mexico-hire-u-s-soldiers-assassins-article-1.1454851

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/drug-cartels-mexico-hire-u-s-soldiers-assassins-article-1.1454851

If they ever caught anybody on active duty working for ISIS, we'd be ready to invade the next day.

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)
27. Prove that they are using explosives to decapitate people, drowning people in cages, and firing RPG
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 02:25 PM
Jun 2015

at cars full of tied up people. I want to see your proof that this is happening in Mexico.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
28. The cartels may not have perpetrated these particular acts of barbarity, but...
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 02:40 PM
Jun 2015

...they are most assuredly capable of (and have committed) equally horrendous acts of mayhem.

How about sewing human faces onto soccer balls?

Or maybe a little live dismemberment with chains saws?

And I think I just read about them blowing up a man and his 8-year-old son a few days ago.

I'm not sure what your point is. The Mexican cartels have specialized in horrendous, exemplary violence.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
29. Have the specifically fired RPGs at people? I have no idea. However, the routinely decapitate,
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 02:46 PM
Jun 2015

disembowel, mutilate with chainsaws and burn people alive in oil barrels full of gasoline.

They are just as brutal as ISIS and have killed many more innocent people. Those are incontrovertible facts.

PSPS

(13,603 posts)
8. With all this free advertising and promotion, the YouTube Snuff Channel is the next stop.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 02:46 AM
Jun 2015

At this rate, they'll be able to sell advertising on their snuff films.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
9. There is no depth to which these vermin won't stoop.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 04:18 AM
Jun 2015

Hell is waiting for these low-life, sadistic cowards. I hope they ALL end up in a terrible death one day soon.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
16. Aside from moral outrage
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:01 AM
Jun 2015

no one seems to have a good response. States in the region are not really stopping them, and the US does not want to engage in another ground war. Maybe they will just see the error of their ways.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
21. In the end
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:12 PM
Jun 2015

Dead is dead. The beheadings, blastings, shootings are the more humane of their executions. The drownings and the burning alive, while barbaric, still result in death. And even then, the moment life is gone, so is pain and suffering.

We have murderers in this country - and we fret over whether we're causing them any discomfort when we deliberately poison them to death. It's an F'd up world populated by an evolutionary misfit of a creature.

bigworld

(1,807 posts)
22. I really don't understand what they gain by these kinds of videos
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:33 PM
Jun 2015

More followers? What the hell kind of people will be attracted to this?
Striking fear into people? Done, but wouldn't they also gain more enemies that way?

I just don't see how this elevates their stature to anyone except fellow sadists.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
32. there was an Atlantic article that got at their goals
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 04:36 PM
Jun 2015

they believe that this barbarism will hasten the end of the conflict because it will frighten us (the west) into surrender or conversion. the more they terrify us, the shorter the battle, the more merciful they are in the end.

they're trying to bring on the apocalypse.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
51. Scares the shit out of those fighting them
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 12:22 PM
Jun 2015

It's why armies drop their arms and run. It's one thing to be shot at or have a bomb dropped on you. It's quite another to be burned alive in a cage or drowned.

I haven't watched or shared any of their videos because I know it's part of their (very effective) propaganda war. Unfortunately, I caught the drowning segment on the Arab news channel my husband was watching. I still can't get the image out of my head. Fucking savages.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,175 posts)
24. The Bush Administration opened the door
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 02:10 PM
Jun 2015

There is always an element in any society that is psychotic and enjoys allowing themselves to fall to their most base desires. The Iraq invasion resulted in disbanding the armed forces and sending them into the population, many from the former ruling Sunnis who now saw the Shia's take control of government. Add to that the chaos, the loss of security, perfect ground for these psychos to rise up and take control.

Just have to look at someone like Dylann Roof. Conditioned and raised to hate and blame the black man. If a situation of chaos and instability happened in America, people like him would run to the front of the line to join up and strengthen the most vile forces that would rise up. Along with other murderers, and deranged assholes.

Obviously anyone that sees these videos, and gets a woodie, and rushes to the Middle East to join up is a sick individual. The God-told-me-to is such an easy cover. Dubya used it to invade Iraq in the first place.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
31. And the Saudis decapitate people who are unfaithful to their spouses.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 02:59 PM
Jun 2015

Yet, somehow, the media never makes a big deal about that.

Funny that, huh.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
33. always with the equivalency on DU
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 04:39 PM
Jun 2015

decapitation is about as "merciful" as an execution can be - if done right.

this, however, is a new level of barbarity. it gets to be bad in its own stead.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
35. Exact same punishment for exact same crimes
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 05:16 PM
Jun 2015

are different levels of barbarity ... how? If here, barbarity = distance from civilized standards of justice, then I fail to see on what metric you are drawing a distinction. Material wealth of governing authorities?

delrem

(9,688 posts)
46. I love it. Parsing decapitations, now - suggesting that the Saudis are "merciful".
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 09:30 PM
Jun 2015

jeesus twisting full out with a hula-hoop, but can it get any more ridiculous than this?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
49. Yes - it can become more ridiculous
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 05:45 AM
Jun 2015

we can have those, like yourself - who like to minimize what isis is all about by pointing out that Saudi Arabia is also a disgusting example of barbarism. The whole fucking area is rife with barbarians killing in the name of Allah. Why do you have such trouble just condemning isis? Why always deflecting? Have you simply not figured out a way to blame the US for this?

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