ISIS drowns, decapitates 'spies' in brutal new video
Source: AsiaOne News
BAGHDAD - An Islamic State group video released Tuesday showed the jihadists murdering 16 men by drowning them in a cage, decapitating them with explosives and firing a rocket-propelled grenade into a car. The video, apparently shot in Iraq's Nineveh province, was one of the most brutal yet in a series released by the jihadists of killings of opponents in areas under IS control.
IS has executed hundreds of people by gunfire, dozens by beheading, stoned some to death, thrown others from buildings and burned a captured Jordanian pilot alive. Videos of the killings are a key propaganda tool of the jihadists, used to shock and terrify their enemies as well as to draw in new recruits seeking the most brutal and active militant group.
The men killed in the latest video are said to be "spies", with some of them making recorded "confessions". First, the militants lead four men to a car and close the doors, after which one fires a rocket-propelled grenade under the vehicle, setting it alight. A militant is later shown locking five men inside a metal cage, which is then lifted by a crane and submerged in what appears to be a dirty swimming pool. Two cameras affixed to the outside of the cage show the men's deaths in the murky water.
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The last killings show a militant looping blue detonating cord around the necks of seven kneeling men, after which the explosives are set off and some of the men are decapitated.
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Read more: http://news.asiaone.com/news/world/isis-drowns-decapitates-spies-brutal-new-video
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)I'm not sure I'm gung-ho on joining the USA war.
Something seems just a wee bit off kilter, here.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)What exactly is "off kilter". I'll leave your contention they "appear" to be as bad as the US for the garbage I think it is.
7962
(11,841 posts)Amazing how low some folks can go.
delrem
(9,688 posts)fired from drones by operators sitting in booths 6,000 miles away, so I'll give the US that.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)same question I did and your refusal to answer it except to try and deflect from it. It seems you've gotten yourself quite the reputation for posting without thought and turning any situation into an opportunity to bash the US. If that was your intention - getting that reputation and adding absolutely nothing - you've succeeded brilliantly.
Garbage indeed.
delrem
(9,688 posts)"Scientific surveys of Iraqi deaths resulting from the first four years of the Iraq War found that between 151,000 to over one million Iraqis died as a result of conflict during this time. A later study, published in 2011, found that approximately 500,000 Iraqis had died as a result of the conflict since the invasion. Counts of deaths reported in newspapers collated by projects like the Iraq Body Count project found 174,000 Iraqis reported killed between 2003 and 2013, with between 112,000-123,000 of those killed being civilian noncombatants."
delrem
(9,688 posts)"BAGHDAD While many Americans have expressed shock at the details of CIA interrogation methods revealed Tuesday in a Senate report, there is little such surprise being voiced in Iraq, where the price the US has paid for those policies is also well understood.
After the 2003 invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein, the US military operated scores of detention facilities where brutal and humiliating tactics were used in a bid to stop anti-American insurgents and the spread of Al Qaedas franchise in Iraq.
For many Iraqis, the US occupation was defined by chilling episodes of abuse, killings and cover-ups, with the incidents at Abu Ghraib prison high on their list."
delrem
(9,688 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)You have to scroll down through multiple associated horrors, to get to the images from Fallujah.
I can understand why you want to blank your mind to it.
delrem
(9,688 posts)Saudi Arabia and Qatar are US allies. Look up the history of al qaeda, of Osama, and look up "Friends of Libya" and "Friends of Syria".
delrem
(9,688 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)This is very wordy, tough going for those with no attention span.
But it does point out *something* that's off kilter, IMO.
Probably not in your opinion, though. Opinions can differ.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)in your many posts that would make the FACT that isis consists of barbaric assholes who would surely cut the heads off every single person voting on this board for some reason or another is "off-kilter". All you've done is trash the US when it comes to their own actions. What the fuck does that have to do with your charge of.....what exactly? You still haven't answered a very simple question. Just more deflection, changing the subject as if that's any kind of explanation or argument. What does Saudi Arabia and Yemen (just to use one of your many useless posts when it comes to actually answering my question) have to do with what I asked? Are you unable to actually explain yourself?
delrem
(9,688 posts)And your inability to own the mess your country made. And is still making.
Inability to count the hundreds of thousands of innocents your country killed in a war of CHOICE.
Like a kid kicking an anthill, lighting it on fire, then blaming the ants.
So you claim that I support ISIS? pshhh.
What fucking nerve.
eta: now you go on ignore. My stomach can't take it.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)All you did was change the subject from the topic of the thread to bash the US - just mindless posting about how the US is nothing but evil while not sparing even one word about isis. It's the only arrow in your quiver and you've worn it out time and time again. You aren't even worth the trouble of putting on ignore and I couldn't possibly care less about the stomach of someone who can't even condemn isis. Your pathetic posting about how the US is worse than isis is nothing but blather but go ahead and keep embarrassing yourself.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Might want to just...ponder...that for a little bit
Renew Deal
(81,866 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)I seem to recall that in relation to the Jordanian pilot.
delrem
(9,688 posts)It's just the other side of the coin.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)It can certainly validate one's biases to pretend as such...
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)The det-cord around the neck decapitation was pretty fucked up. At the end there was another hostage (who wasn't executed) standing there. Soon to be executed himself, I'm sure.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)6chars
(3,967 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Historically, Oklahoma has led the nation in devising methods of execution.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)Chakab
(1,727 posts)we send more troops back to Iraq?
The cartels have been doing horrific murder for years. These clowns are late to the circus of cowards.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)...then post political propaganda alongside the execution videos. That's the biggest difference.
These videos are very effective recruiting tools.
I suspect you've never seen one. I would suggest you not seek them out.
This one is the most brutal video yet. And I've seen some shit.
Chakab
(1,727 posts)Islamic terrorism leads them to completely ignore narco terrorism and right-wing terrorism.
http://www.bestgore.com/execution/mexico-drug-cartel-execution-two-men-hanging/
They also have no problem with recruitment. There have been several cases of active duty US military and veterans who were caught either working for or attempting to work for the cartels.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/drug-cartels-mexico-hire-u-s-soldiers-assassins-article-1.1454851
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/drug-cartels-mexico-hire-u-s-soldiers-assassins-article-1.1454851
If they ever caught anybody on active duty working for ISIS, we'd be ready to invade the next day.
Renew Deal
(81,866 posts)at cars full of tied up people. I want to see your proof that this is happening in Mexico.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)...they are most assuredly capable of (and have committed) equally horrendous acts of mayhem.
How about sewing human faces onto soccer balls?
Or maybe a little live dismemberment with chains saws?
And I think I just read about them blowing up a man and his 8-year-old son a few days ago.
I'm not sure what your point is. The Mexican cartels have specialized in horrendous, exemplary violence.
Chakab
(1,727 posts)disembowel, mutilate with chainsaws and burn people alive in oil barrels full of gasoline.
They are just as brutal as ISIS and have killed many more innocent people. Those are incontrovertible facts.
PSPS
(13,603 posts)At this rate, they'll be able to sell advertising on their snuff films.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)Hell is waiting for these low-life, sadistic cowards. I hope they ALL end up in a terrible death one day soon.
6chars
(3,967 posts)no one seems to have a good response. States in the region are not really stopping them, and the US does not want to engage in another ground war. Maybe they will just see the error of their ways.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Dead is dead. The beheadings, blastings, shootings are the more humane of their executions. The drownings and the burning alive, while barbaric, still result in death. And even then, the moment life is gone, so is pain and suffering.
We have murderers in this country - and we fret over whether we're causing them any discomfort when we deliberately poison them to death. It's an F'd up world populated by an evolutionary misfit of a creature.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)This is depraved murder of the worst kind.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Their creators:
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They just had to get in there and stir up the shit.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)total batshit crazy.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)if they kept their actions hidden from public view.
bigworld
(1,807 posts)More followers? What the hell kind of people will be attracted to this?
Striking fear into people? Done, but wouldn't they also gain more enemies that way?
I just don't see how this elevates their stature to anyone except fellow sadists.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)they believe that this barbarism will hasten the end of the conflict because it will frighten us (the west) into surrender or conversion. the more they terrify us, the shorter the battle, the more merciful they are in the end.
they're trying to bring on the apocalypse.
eissa
(4,238 posts)It's why armies drop their arms and run. It's one thing to be shot at or have a bomb dropped on you. It's quite another to be burned alive in a cage or drowned.
I haven't watched or shared any of their videos because I know it's part of their (very effective) propaganda war. Unfortunately, I caught the drowning segment on the Arab news channel my husband was watching. I still can't get the image out of my head. Fucking savages.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,175 posts)There is always an element in any society that is psychotic and enjoys allowing themselves to fall to their most base desires. The Iraq invasion resulted in disbanding the armed forces and sending them into the population, many from the former ruling Sunnis who now saw the Shia's take control of government. Add to that the chaos, the loss of security, perfect ground for these psychos to rise up and take control.
Just have to look at someone like Dylann Roof. Conditioned and raised to hate and blame the black man. If a situation of chaos and instability happened in America, people like him would run to the front of the line to join up and strengthen the most vile forces that would rise up. Along with other murderers, and deranged assholes.
Obviously anyone that sees these videos, and gets a woodie, and rushes to the Middle East to join up is a sick individual. The God-told-me-to is such an easy cover. Dubya used it to invade Iraq in the first place.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Yet, somehow, the media never makes a big deal about that.
Funny that, huh.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)decapitation is about as "merciful" as an execution can be - if done right.
this, however, is a new level of barbarity. it gets to be bad in its own stead.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)are different levels of barbarity ... how? If here, barbarity = distance from civilized standards of justice, then I fail to see on what metric you are drawing a distinction. Material wealth of governing authorities?
delrem
(9,688 posts)jeesus twisting full out with a hula-hoop, but can it get any more ridiculous than this?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)we can have those, like yourself - who like to minimize what isis is all about by pointing out that Saudi Arabia is also a disgusting example of barbarism. The whole fucking area is rife with barbarians killing in the name of Allah. Why do you have such trouble just condemning isis? Why always deflecting? Have you simply not figured out a way to blame the US for this?
Bosonic
(3,746 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Why is that?