PBS: 'Finding Your Roots' Affleck episode violated standards
Source: AP
LOS ANGELES (AP) PBS put its "Finding Your Roots" series on hold Wednesday after determining an episode that omitted references to Ben Affleck's ancestor as a slave owner violated its standards.
The public television service said it is postponing the show's third season and delaying a commitment to a fourth year until it is satisfied with improvement in the show's editorial standards.
PBS launched its investigation after it was reported that Affleck requested the program not reveal his ancestor's slave-holding history in the 2014 episode. The Associated Press examined historical documents and found that Affleck's great-great-great-grandfather owned 24 slaves.
The review found that co-producers violated PBS standards by allowing improper influence on the show's editorial process and failed to inform PBS or producing station WNET of Affleck's efforts to affect the program's content.
Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/dc206cac9ee64d15bae60d52d95293ae/pbs-finding-your-roots-affleck-episode-violated-standards
randys1
(16,286 posts)The crime is his family owned slaves.
But he personally did not, no need to cover it up
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)and gotten mileage out of it.
Now he looks like a dork.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)He had to have known going into this that there was a possibility that he'd find out something bad about his ancestors. Just like taking a part in a movie, it is a risk (need I remind anyone of Gigil? Gross receipts $7.3 on a budget of $75.6).
The thing is that everyone knows already, why not just go on the show and do a mea culpa?
frazzled
(18,402 posts)The question is who gets the blame. Affleck is obviously the major asshole here. Gates should have done more than write (albeit complainingly) to the head of Sony Pictures to ask what to do about such an unprecedented request. And Sony should not have ...
The tangled webs we weave.
My main question is why Affleck wanted this information scrubbed in the first place. What does your great great great grandfather have to do with who you are? Is he so image bound that he felt even this distant, historical taint would affect the salary for his next picture or his own credibility?
I shrug.
7962
(11,841 posts)It shouldnt matter at all, but to a LOT of people these days, it does
MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)He'd be honest about it. People need to admit their family's history, it's part of coming to terms with it.
I'd respect him more if he were honest about it!
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Or his managers or what?
frazzled
(18,402 posts)From a Chicago Tribune article on the subject:
"Here's my dilemma," says Gates in one email, dated July 22, 2014 "confidentially, for the first time, one of our guests has asked us to edit out something about one of his ancestors the fact that he owned slaves. Now, four or five of our guests this season descend from slave owners, including (prolific documentary filmmaker) Ken Burns. We've never had anyone ever try to censor or edit what we found. He's a megastar. What do we do?"
Lynton replied that it all depends on who knows that the information was in the documentary already.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/tv/ct-pbs-finding-your-roots-affleck-episode-violated-standards-20150624-story.html
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)What's funny to me is that he is an offensive jerk in that effort.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)And he discussed how uncomfortable it made him with Henry Gates. I thought that put a good light on Cooper to see his very real upset at the thought. If I remember correctly, most of his lineage was from the North so he had not had the expectation of a Southern slave holder.
Affleck could have handled it better and it disappoints me that he was so shallow to ask to cover it up. He should have faced it, dealt with it and everybody would have just moved on.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)But the slave owning relative apparently got her comeuppance according to a commenter on the show site.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/finding-your-roots/blog/anderson-coopers-family-tree/
David Wilson
7 months ago
Anderson Cooper had another relative who was killed by her slaves. Elizabeth Boykin (Witherspoon) died in 1861. She was descended from William Boykin and Margaret Burwell, Several descendants were named Burwell Boykin. Mary Chesnut was a cousin of Elizabeth Boykin and mentions her death in her famous diary
MADem
(135,425 posts)Justice
(7,188 posts)we would think today. Really fantastic weaving of history and genealogy.
cstanleytech
(26,299 posts)I am not sure why he would want them not to mention it.
Exultant Democracy
(6,594 posts)Rape was an economic force multiplayer. If you rape half your slaves the half white babies they have will be worth four times as much as the slaves you don't rape who have black babies.
Repeat for a few generations and you have yourself a octoroon. There was no slave more valuable than a female Octoroon, but the males were worth a pretty penny too.
cstanleytech
(26,299 posts)dates back thousands of years all over the globe and it spanned many civilizations and even today there some areas of the world where its still practiced.
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)If the point was to keep the world from knowing some unsavory things about the family history, this would have to go down as an epic fail.
sybylla
(8,515 posts)Clearly the programs don't have enough time to air a full history, so there is far more stuff getting left out than shown.
Who gives a rip if they focused on a different aspect of Ben's family? I think PBS is overthinking this.
FSogol
(45,491 posts)that Sherlock Holmes wasn't a real person.
MADem
(135,425 posts)way the program was presented.
If he had it to do over again, I'll bet he would have gone to Plan "Roll With It And Make It a Lesson!"
I think many Americans who have ancestors who were here during the civil war and previously had some slave owners (and slaves) in the direct family line. The newcomers don't have to deal with that particular legacy, but every family has a skeleton or two. If there's not a horse thief back there somewhere, your people haven't lived. Hell, Michelle Obama is the descendant of slaves and slave owners--it's not a shame on the person who is related, it's a reality of history that we need to own and own up to, if we want to call ourselves Americans--and that includes those of us who didn't have people on the scene here back in those bad old days. We all share our history, and each wave of immigrants adds to it.
ananda
(28,867 posts)And my Texas side of the family is very racist, some being also
crazed fundies.
But most of them are very fun and lovable also. I hope they
also have the potential for personal evolution.
There is no point in keeping this kind of thing secret. It does
no good in any way to hide it.
However, it's hard to overcome if both your parents are that way,
American exceptionalists and racist the way my family is.
The only way my siblings and I escaped it was that my mother
wasn't raised in the south and always made close friends and
connections with everybody she met just about, which included
everybody bar none, including racist conservatives who she
loved to argue with. But even they weren't as crazy and
mean-spirited then as the conservatives are now.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)Why would Affleck feel the need to keep this a secret anyway? We don't choose our ancestors.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)My own paternal background has a slaveowner family, but that's one branch out of many who never owned slaves. He needs to own it.
Igel
(35,320 posts)You didn't stop at "My own paternal background has a slave-owner family." That's all that's really needed here.
But you continued, because to admit ancestral guilt is
uncomfortable for some people to do,
may make others uncomfortable ("gee, I wonder if your great-great-great-grandcousin Lucy owned my ... great-great-great-great-grandmother?" ,
maybe opens you up to some judgment on the part of the hyper-judgmental
Then there's always the intractable reparations argument lurking in the background. "The only reason you have anything today, in spite of numerous depressions in the 1800s apart from the Civil War and its economic consequences, random family reversals, and the Great Depression, is because of the slaves your ancestors owned. You owe me."
So while there's one slave owner family in your background, "that's one branch out of many who never owned slaves." There's ancestral guilt, but it's diluted.
shanti
(21,675 posts)just stating he facts. this line was the only southern family in my tree, and they were from northern kentucky. on the other side of the ohio river was the Union army, with family members there too, undoubtedly brother against brother/cousin, etc.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)appalachiablue
(41,147 posts)unsavory characters in their backgrounds, and I believe when Anderson Cooper heard that a slaveholder ancestor died or was killed (CW?) he said "good". Affleck must be really offended more than concerned about his rep. I think, he's solid.
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)Standards?!!? I thought PBS abandoned all pretense of standards when they let David Koch deep-six an entire show that wasn't dripping with fawning adulation of him and his brother. EVERY TV show gets edited. Even if Affleck's request was a little tacky, do they have to condemn one of the best shows on their roster because of it? What assholes.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)We all have ancestors that did shitty things. Doesn't matter who you are, at some point one of your ancestors was an evil little asshole.
47of74
(18,470 posts)Even President Obama has ancestors through his mother's side that had slaves.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/mar/04/uselections2008.barackobama