State Dept.: 15 emails missing from Clinton cache

[Omaha Steve]

Source: AP

By BRADLEY KLAPPER and MATTHEW LEE

WASHINGTON (AP) — The State Department has been unable to find in its records all or part of 15 work-related emails from Hillary Rodham Clinton's private server that were released this week by a House panel investigating the 2012 attack in Benghazi, Libya, officials said Thursday.

The emails all predate the Sept. 11 assault on the U.S. diplomatic facility and include scant words written by Clinton herself, the officials said. They consist of more in a series of would-be intelligence reports passed to her by longtime political confidant Sidney Blumenthal, the officials said.

Nevertheless, the fact that the State Department says it can't find them among emails she provided surely will raise new questions about Clinton's use of a personal email account and server while secretary of state and whether she has provided the agency all of her work-related correspondence, as she claims.

"She has turned over 55,000 pages of materials to the State Department, including all emails in her possession from Mr. Blumenthal," said Nick Merrill, a Clinton campaign spokesman, when asked about the discrepancy.

FULL story at link.



Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton speaks during a campaign stop at Christ the King United Church of Christ, Tuesday, June 23, 2015, in Florissant, Mo. (AP Photo/Jeff Roberson)

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/1feab0c0359642f39f86744f42e414c1/state-dept-15-emails-missing-clinton-cache

[lamp_shade]

1. 15????? Really?

[TwilightGardener]

2. Questions: why was she collecting private intelligence reports?

What was the quality control/verification on those? Did they vary from what the intelligence agencies were providing? Did they guide her decision-making? Why didn't she give them to the State Dept.?

[PATRICK]

3. Media's mindless quagmire

is their platform for Hillary. It is a classic political gamesmanship trap, certainly not warranting such media seriousness but not as insane than most of the mud the GOP has been slinging in the desperate attempt to appear politically competent so there is some context to sneakily buy and steal the election.

What a lot of time killing garbage, Benghazi part II.

[Fearless]

4. I wonder if Bernie has a problem finding his emails...

I bet he doesn't. I also bet he has nothing to hide.

[cascadiance]

5. Hmm... I wonder if someone is going through sendmail logs to find this...

Perhaps her private email administrators weren't thinking this was happening. But if there is metadata in the logs as the mail was being forwarded to her domain from some interim servers, and some of those emails were deleted that those administrators didn't think were traceable from servers forwarding her this email, this could be why they might be "surprised" that the investigation is discovering that there are mails missing from what was provided that don't match up with what they were seeing being forwarded in some machine's logs someplace. These emails themselves might not have been backed up if they were only on the machine briefly, but if the logs kept track of which mails were forwarded and were backed up, that would be what might be being questioned now.

[Chemisse]

22. That's what I am wondering.

If they know they sent her emails that are not in the mass of emails handed over, then is just raises the question of how many other emails are missing.

This will just go on and on and on.

[pnwmom]

6. 15 emails out of 55,000. So .0003 unaccounted for, rounded up. n/t

[24601]

8. 18 minute of how many hours of Nixon recordings - same thing for same reason,

[pnwmom]

11. A computer program did the sorting of Hillary's emails based on a key word search.

Is that how they did it with the Nixon recordings, too?

[24601]

34. Computers do precisely what they are told to do n/t

[malokvale77]

12. This 24601

There is a reason that shit is missing.

[geek tragedy]

18. Trey Gowdy posts at DU. Who knew? nt

[riversedge]

30. ....

[emulatorloo]

50. Politics do indeed make strange bedfellows

Although I'm pretty sure we are gonna see a big cooties outbreak at DU

[karynnj]

41. It was 55000 PAGES not 55000 emails that she turned over in paper format

The problem now is that Blumenthal handed over his side of the correspondence -- and the State Department does not havethe entire email of 15 of them - he gave them 60. For, just this: the percent missing is .25 -- not that good. Now the State Department spent many man hours verifying they did not have them. This in addition to having 12 people work full time scanning in all these pages - that were printed off HRC's computer, then redacting anything that has private information or national security problems.

This is the nightmare HRC created for the State Department because she wanted to use a private server. The State Department will spend millions on getting everything prepared to be put online -- something HRC offered to get people off her case. This is a lose/lose proposition for the State Department. Even if they do the most conscientious job possible they will be blamed for taking too long and it is almost certain they will miss something that should be redacted.

(number of Blumenthal emails from this article - http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/26/us/state-dept-gets-libya-emails-that-clinton-didnt-hand-over.html?_r=0 )

[Fred Sanders]

7. What difference does it make? The media sees Clinton's massive leads and popularity; their 2016 CU cash cow windfall is at risk.

So are there folks at DU who heart Trey Gowdy and wish for more findings of finding nothing?

Really?

[BlueEye]

10. "What difference does it make?"

I cringe every time I hear those words when discussing Clinton. Prepare for a GOP attack ad every five minutes in October 2016... "What difference, at this point, does it make?"

[malokvale77]

14. "I cringe every time I hear those words when discussing Clinton.¨

That could be a good reason to not have Mrs. Clinton as the Democratic candidate.

[Fred Sanders]

15. THAT is your "good" reason....please proceed?!

[malokvale77]

20. I will.

Thank you for your permission.

[cosmicone]

21. it makes no difference to most people

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15 emails out of 55,000 is nothing. I have misplaced way more emails than that -- even important ones. People know a hatchet job when they see one.

Also, when was the last time Bernie Sanders had a cabinet post? Cabinet appointees have way more email than a senator from a barely populated state -- so don't go "Bernie is holier" on me.

[Chemisse]

23. Identifying someone by his or her post count is pretty rude and unwelcoming.

Perhaps you could use her/his name instead.

[malokvale77]

25. ^^^this^^^

That attitude doesn't exactly encourage people to join DU.

When I first joined DU I had planned to buy a membership. The attitude of that poster and others likewise stopped me.

[BlueEye]

37. I wouldn't disagree with that, I have thousands of emails myself and some do go missing from time...

to time. I would be concerned if the 15 missing emails were from a specific period of time, or in regards to a specific subject, but that doesn't appear to be the case here. Baring any clear and convincing evidence of malfeasance by HRC, I am willing to accept that this is nothing more than a GOP hatchet job.

And really, I was not attempting to sound "Bernie is holier", I was remarking that Fred's comment reminded me of Hillary's somewhat infamous word-choice during that testimony.

I have never seen either Hillary's or Bernie's email inbox, so I have no idea.

[karynnj]

42. 15 out of 60 Blumenthal emails are missing

By the way, there were not 55000 emails, but 55000 paper pages because for some reason HRC gave the State Department the emails on pieces of paper that they then had to scan into the computer.

Note: even if HRC was as sloppy as you with email, she could have used a state.gov account and had everything archived in real time --- as they do for the current secretary.

[malokvale77]

28. I am so sorry people here on DU...

have made you so unwelcome.

It is a damned shame to see so many "self professed" democrats be so unyielding.

Personally, I welcome your voice.

[BlueEye]

38. Aw, it's okay. People are passionate here, I've learned that the hard way!

Thank you for your kind words!

[malokvale77]

39. Hang in there.

[emulatorloo]

9. Why does the media only post the unflattering pictures of Hillary?

Anybody can look bad in a photo. But your Asociated Press's etc always go for the bad photos.

We almost never see unflattering pictures of Republicans. Media doesn't pick those.

I guess they do that to Democrats generally. I've seen several unflattering photos of Bernie recently that basically look nothing like him.

I suppose I understand the media's interest in making Democrats look angry, mean and unattractive. They basically exist to elect Republicans.

However, Why would DU'ers want to aid them by reposting their cherry-picked unflattering pics of Democrats?

That confuses me.

[malokvale77]

16. WOW

I thought that was one of her more flattering photos.

Do you have a more flattering photo? If so please post.

I self deleted the following post because it was a duplicate of this post.

[emulatorloo]

46. Here's a few recent ones:

From a google image search.

[wyldwolf]

13. They contain the names and salaries of 15 paid posters on DU

--- well, not really. Just a mild chuckle.

[AngryAmish]

19. This is revenge for our next President not supporting trade authority

And very sexist.

[malokvale77]

24. You seem to be very confused

Our next President is a long way from being decided.

Your "sexist" comment makes no sense.

[AngryAmish]

26. That is really sexist.

[malokvale77]

29. How? nt

[CTBlueboy]

27. Don't really care but

I'm seeing lot who cares its only 15 out 55,000 emails missing

If it was a republicans administration and their S.O.S was missing emails would you feel the same ?

[malokvale77]

31. Yes...

Just like I did with the Nixon missing part of the the tapes.

[restorefreedom]

32. it isn.t the number of emails. it's the appearance of secrecy

she is already in hot water with R.s because she used her own email instead of the government provided one. there have been questions about who knew what/when about benghazi and just as that issue is put to rest for all but the crazies, the missing emails come along.


it just looks bad and makes people doubt their trust in her.

[emulatorloo]

47. It is the Benghazi Commitee and Trey Gowdy. Who will lie about anything

There are going to be lots of lies from The Republican Lie Machine aimed at Bernie as well.

Thier lies are going to make Bernie look bad and made people doubt their trust in him.

Sorry, I can't be very accepting of Republican Swiftboating of any of our primary candidates.

[restorefreedom]

48. I don't agree with Republicans swiftboating smear tactics against any candidate

i am just suggesting that she is not helping herself By not being completely transparent.

[emulatorloo]

49. Fair enough. However even if Clinton appeared nude, Republicans would claim she's hiding something

Their default position is lying. Whitewater, Benghazi, "Death Panels", Illegals are beheading white people in Arizona, Obama's a socialist bent on Destroying America and aiding ISIS, THe Goverment is going to INVADE TEXAS, and on and on.

At any rate, totally get your point.

[restorefreedom]

51. "if clinton appeared nude, republicans would claim she was hiding something"

funny in its sad truth... (sigh)

[blm]

33. LOL - GOP knows Gen. Petraeus was directing a covert CIA op in Benghazi and had dozens

of agents and operatives on the ground there before, during, and after the attack.

Has GOP decided that Clinton was in charge of the CIA?

Why don't they ask for Petraeus' emails on Benghazi?

LOL - - GOP won't go there will they?

[cosmicone]

35. I see Bernie supporters dancing with joy every time there is a pipsqueak

of a news negative to Hillary. They suddenly start comparing her to Nixon ... which is way over the top.

This is exactly why democrats lose elections -- we make idealism the enemy of what is achievable to the point we beat what is achievable so much that a republican wins.

[McCamy Taylor]

36. I almost wish he would get nominated so they could see what the MSM

would do to him in the general. Google Acid, Amnesty and Abortion. The RNC would have his character in shreds within days of the convention and anyone who does not think it could happen, not with their candidate is delusional and so poltically naive that they are a danger to their country and need to stay out of politics.

Clinton's great strength is that her character is defined. The RNC will not be able to touch it. If she goes into the convention with a positive public image, she will leave the same way---and keep that same public image through the election.

[OnyxCollie]

40. So the former Secretary of State, who had ordered diplomats

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to collect biometric data, including passwords, fingerprints, DNA, and iris scans from Ban Ki-Moon and Dr. Margaret Chan, has 15 work-related emails missing from her own private server.

Interesting.

[Purveyor]

43. Call China and/or Russia. Bet they have them all... eom

[Mnpaul]

44. This is a gift that will keep on giving for the Republicans

It is a win-win for them. They can make demands to see the server, demand missing emails and demand stuff that was never there while stating "what is she hiding?". Hillary was foolish not to follow official procedure to the letter.

[restorefreedom]

45. right. playing into their hands

i don't think this will ultimately gain any traction, but they will make hay of it as long as they can to the base.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

52. This could be HUGH AND SERIES !!!!

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

53. Could be, but we'll probably never know.

She's had decades of experience in covering her tracks. Surprised she was even this careless.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

54. I know

Benghazi comes to mind.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

55. It does?

Weird, that's one of the few things I think her detractors are 100% wrong on.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

56. Vince Foster, Whitewater

are the good ones.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

57. Vince Foster is another one I think is nonsense.

The Clintons are not mafiosos, they're just paranoid secretive and entitled enough to think rules are for lesser mortals.

[emulatorloo]

58. It is not paranoia when somebody really is out to get you.

Remember the "Arkansas Project"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas_Project