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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:15 AM May 2012

Romney Issues Non-Apology Apology (“Back in high school I did some dumb things...")

Source: Talking Points Memo

‘I Did Some Dumb Things’
Mitt Apologizes If Anyone Hurt By Prep School Pranks
JOSH MARSHALL MAY 10, 2012, 10:43 AM 283

Romney: “Back in high school I did some dumb things and if anybody was hurt by that or offended by that I apologize.”

He further said: “I certainly don’t believe that I thought the fellow was homosexual. That was the furthest thing from our minds back in the 1960s.”

Earlier Romney, through spokespeople, had said he didn’t remember the incidents.


Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/05/romney_issues_non-apology_apology.php



Washington Post Account Details Romney’s Prep School Pranks, Bullying
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romneys-prep-school-classmates-recall-pranks-but-also-troubling-incidents/2012/05/10/gIQA3WOKFU_print.html
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Romney Issues Non-Apology Apology (“Back in high school I did some dumb things...") (Original Post) kpete May 2012 OP
As I posted elsewhere, Mitt doesn't deny, claims he can't remember these incidents... Scuba May 2012 #1
or... danbeee46 May 2012 #2
You don't forget this type of behavior. He just keeps lying. chelsea0011 May 2012 #15
I'm just a few months older than Mittens Submariner May 2012 #31
That is typical of rich assholes alarimer May 2012 #47
He will morph again get the red out May 2012 #3
Lying sack of shit. n/t MadrasT May 2012 #4
I was in high school in the '60's and Raven May 2012 #5
My mom grew up in a small town in rural Iowa in the 1930s and 40s. Who was and was not gay was... slackmaster May 2012 #9
Most people did indeed do some dumb things in high school, and I think we should all pay for our own slackmaster May 2012 #6
This Is Bull-Shit, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2012 #7
Yes, it was pervasive. Lex May 2012 #10
You bet. EFerrari May 2012 #32
If anyone was offended, I apologize...but if you think it was cool that I did this Lex May 2012 #8
This ranks right up there on the BS meter with LibDemAlways May 2012 #11
I went to school in the mid-60s to mid-70s in a small town in the intermountain west... Swede Atlanta May 2012 #12
Swede Atlanta Diclotican May 2012 #23
Unless Romney often cut off other kids' hair brentspeak May 2012 #13
I've always thought the GOP was against anti-bullying legislation AllyCat May 2012 #14
Right, and what about "the fellow" to whom you shouted "atta girl"? Rose Siding May 2012 #16
excellent point! renate May 2012 #42
Add it all up: this is one twisted individual Auggie May 2012 #17
Typical Republican nopology. backscatter712 May 2012 #18
What if everyone is hurt by what you did and everyone is offended.... Tikki May 2012 #19
Yeah we all did some dumb stuff, but he remembers this event and he needs to acknowlege it, ..... marble falls May 2012 #20
non apology apology & he has a bad memory too Botany May 2012 #21
"I certainly don’t believe that I thought the fellow was homosexual."... Javaman May 2012 #22
Mittens has gotten Iliyah May 2012 #24
He doesn't remember. That's interesting. He seems to remember his father walking alongside MLK. Happyhippychick May 2012 #25
Liar, liar. Pants on fire. Lugnut May 2012 #26
TOO LATE YOU STEAMING PILE OF MITT! amb123 May 2012 #27
I did some dumb things as a youth too, and some things that were downright cruel as well . . . Journeyman May 2012 #28
You are a better person than I. murielm99 May 2012 #34
What a piece of shit. Maven May 2012 #29
Romney was a bully too? Why am I not surprised? Joey Liberal May 2012 #30
I don't believe he doesn't remember indie_voter May 2012 #33
Evenutally he will claim Obama did it and that he was only trying to help the wounded. SleeplessinSoCal May 2012 #35
Typical bully. Odin2005 May 2012 #36
That "apology," at this point in time, may be worse than the original incidents. JohnnyLib2 May 2012 #37
If he didn't think of homosexuality, what was with the "atta girl"! adigal May 2012 #38
Liar. Coward. Bully. What a resume. n/t jtuck004 May 2012 #39
Not just a bully, but a liar, too. What an a$$hole from the Bush type family mold. mnhtnbb May 2012 #40
School Bullies Grow Up to be Repiglickins AndyTiedye May 2012 #41
All bullies are cowards - that kind of "apology" is no surprise... polichick May 2012 #43
I don't remember but I do remember he wasn't Gay grantcart May 2012 #44
Another George W Bush. Hubert Flottz May 2012 #45
Worse Yet, "Nothing Happened" DallasNE May 2012 #46
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
1. As I posted elsewhere, Mitt doesn't deny, claims he can't remember these incidents...
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:16 AM
May 2012

Apparently the victim was so insignificant to Mitt that he's not worthy of any space in Mitt's memory banks.

Or perhaps his attacking other boys was so commonplace it gets lost in the blur.

Or perhaps he's a lying asshole.

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
31. I'm just a few months older than Mittens
Thu May 10, 2012, 01:10 PM
May 2012

and I certainly would remember pinning a guy to the floor and cutting his hair off. I recall many far less significant stupid actions as a high-schooler.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
47. That is typical of rich assholes
Thu May 10, 2012, 07:17 PM
May 2012

They beat up people with impunity because their rich daddies take care of it.

THIS is the key difference between them and the rest of us. They are callous, unfeeling shits.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
3. He will morph again
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:19 AM
May 2012

He will morph again and embrace the attack as soon as someong thinks to tell him his base is pro-bully.

Raven

(13,891 posts)
5. I was in high school in the '60's and
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:22 AM
May 2012

those things were definately on our minds. Who does he think he's kidding???

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
9. My mom grew up in a small town in rural Iowa in the 1930s and 40s. Who was and was not gay was...
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:26 AM
May 2012

...certainly on peoples' minds, and a common topic of conversation, even then.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
6. Most people did indeed do some dumb things in high school, and I think we should all pay for our own
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:24 AM
May 2012

...dumbness.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
7. This Is Bull-Shit, Ma'am
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:25 AM
May 2012

This line in particular: "I certainly don’t believe that I thought the fellow was homosexual. That was the furthest thing from our minds back in the 1960s."

Anyone male who wore hair long during the sixties, particularly in the middle sixties, grew wearily familiar with being called a queer.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
32. You bet.
Thu May 10, 2012, 01:19 PM
May 2012

I did stupid things in high school, too, but none of them involved assault, weapons or gang violence. "Stupid" is a euphemism here for "criminal except my family was rich at the time".

BushCo sure likes its sociopath candidates.









Lex

(34,108 posts)
8. If anyone was offended, I apologize...but if you think it was cool that I did this
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:26 AM
May 2012

then ALL RIGHT!




LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
11. This ranks right up there on the BS meter with
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:35 AM
May 2012

George "Macaca" Allen's explanation when he was asked by an interviewer in 2006 to explain why he was suspended for spray painting racist graffiti on the walls of his high school. (I was a classmate. I know what happened.) He claimed he couldn't remember the details and he had no racist intent. Major major bullshit. Allen was well-known for his racism. How many teens in Southern Calif. plastered their cars with Confederate Flag bumper stickers and carried a bat that was inscribed "N____r knocker?" I only know of one - George Allen.

Hope the press doesn't let Mitt get away with this, and that the Allen incident - and his ongoing lifelong racism - again becomes an issue in Virginia. These idiots deserve to go down in flames.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
12. I went to school in the mid-60s to mid-70s in a small town in the intermountain west...
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:39 AM
May 2012

I was called fag and homo all the time. I really didn't understand what that meant at the time.

In reality these other boys knew about my sexuality before I had associated the fact I felt different than other boys with my sexual attractions or sexual preference.

Mitt is lying through his teeth that he didn't know the guy was a homosexual. I wonder if the LDS church promotes public lying.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
23. Swede Atlanta
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:14 PM
May 2012

Swede Atlanta

I can just say for myself - and for what I have been learned in church, that at least in my little church, lying is not accepted, or promoted in any way.... But again, I can not, and will not talk for all the other churches in the world..

And for the record - I do not think mr Romney is the best candidate, he looks, smell and sounds like a simple bully to me... Nothing more than a simple bully... If I have had the possibility to vote in the US, I would have voted for President Obama anytime..

Diclotican

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
13. Unless Romney often cut off other kids' hair
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:41 AM
May 2012

it's pretty impossible that he could have "forgotten" this particular incident. Either way, he was spoiled brat bully.

AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
14. I've always thought the GOP was against anti-bullying legislation
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:52 AM
May 2012

because that is where they get most of their members. This just puts one more piece of evidence that proves that I am right.

What a sick f*ck this guy is.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
16. Right, and what about "the fellow" to whom you shouted "atta girl"?
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:55 AM
May 2012

Sexual orientation far from your mind then, too?

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
19. What if everyone is hurt by what you did and everyone is offended....
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:05 PM
May 2012

You need to stand up and apologize to everyone.


Tikki

marble falls

(57,081 posts)
20. Yeah we all did some dumb stuff, but he remembers this event and he needs to acknowlege it, .....
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:06 PM
May 2012

and sincerely apologize. That's part of growing up and being an adult. My sympathies and sadness is for Mr. Lauer. My disappointment is for Mitt who formed his own vigilante mob and got away with it. No-one can tell me he hasn't recalled the incident with fondness and recounted it to hooting and chuckles from Scotch swilling acquaintances, even if he was drinking only ice-water himself.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
21. non apology apology & he has a bad memory too
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:07 PM
May 2012

“Back in high school, I did some dumb things and if anybody was hurt by that or offended, obviously I apologize for that,” Romney said in a live radio interview with Fox News Channel personality Brian Kilmeade. Romney added: “I participated in a lot of hijinks and pranks during high school and some might have gone too far and for that, I apologize.”

snip

I don’t remember that incident,” Romney said, laughing. “I certainly don’t believe that I thought the fellow was homosexual. That was the furthest thing from our minds back in the 1960s, so that was not the case.”

Asked specifically about having interrupting a closeted gay student in English class, Gary Hummel, by shouting, “Atta girl!” Romney said, “I really can’t remember that.”

“As this person indicated, he was closeted,” Romney said. “I had no idea that he was gay and can’t speak to that even today. But as to the teasing or the taunts that go on in high school, that’s a long time ago. For me, that’s about 48 years ago. Again, if there’s anything I said that is offensive to someone, I certainly am sorry for that, very deeply sorry for that.”

*************

What a freaking weasel .... and I am sorry if I offended any weasels

One time is an accident two times is really bad luck but time after time of doing mean things
to other people is a pattern. Be it as a bully to gay kids in high school, having a sight impaired
teacher walk into a door, or laying off thousands of people so he and his friends can make money
Mitt has a pattern of being mean.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
22. "I certainly don’t believe that I thought the fellow was homosexual."...
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:08 PM
May 2012

..."That was the furthest thing from our minds back in the 1960s.”

so does that mean that mitten's was just a general run of the mill dickhead? He bullied everyone?

what a fucking sociopath.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
24. Mittens has gotten
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:15 PM
May 2012

all the credentials to be a true red gopper and a so called "Christian" per the hallelujah crowds, ie evangelists.

Ok I do know some evangelists who are loving and caring people and are pro-gay, and will be voting for Pres O. I do believe that the goppers do not have a cap on the evangelicals as they claim (polls).

Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
25. He doesn't remember. That's interesting. He seems to remember his father walking alongside MLK.
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:27 PM
May 2012

douchebag

amb123

(1,581 posts)
27. TOO LATE YOU STEAMING PILE OF MITT!
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:44 PM
May 2012
The person you're "apologizing" for attacking died in 2004! GFY you . . . you . . . REPUBLICAN!

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
28. I did some dumb things as a youth too, and some things that were downright cruel as well . . .
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:55 PM
May 2012

but I guess the difference between Romney and I is I apologized for most of those acts when they were still fresh, and those I did not address at that time bother me to this day. I've gone so far as to seek out those to whom I owe an amends and, when I've found them, offer a heartfelt apology.

The unexamined life, Socrates observed, is not worth living. I wonder if a life "unremembered" can possibly be examined.

murielm99

(30,738 posts)
34. You are a better person than I.
Thu May 10, 2012, 01:35 PM
May 2012

I wish I had apologized for some of the cruel and thoughtless things I did as a youth. Many of those people are gone now, or scattered.

At least I never attacked anyone physically. Girls usually resort to other cruelties, as I did. I wasn't as bad as some, but it still bothers me.

indie_voter

(1,999 posts)
33. I don't believe he doesn't remember
Thu May 10, 2012, 01:20 PM
May 2012

However, how does he think that is better? What type of person attacks another person and doesn't remember? I agree, everyone does things when they're young that they're not proud about, this to me at least is excessive but okay. He was young. The 5 other people who participated in the attack clearly were haunted by it which to me shows conscience.

This is a pattern for Romeny. He's a mean man and a coward. He can't stand up to a person at a rally calling our President a traitor, he straps his dog on the roof of his car and drives long distances, and now this.

Besides this horrible assault the story about giggling when he purposely let his sight impaired teacher walk in to a door (from same article) is just another example what a cruel character he has.

JohnnyLib2

(11,211 posts)
37. That "apology," at this point in time, may be worse than the original incidents.
Thu May 10, 2012, 02:17 PM
May 2012

"That was the furthest thing from our minds back in the 1960s." How can any moderately honest person from that era believe that statement?

Romney's just gotta-be-stopped.
 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
38. If he didn't think of homosexuality, what was with the "atta girl"!
Thu May 10, 2012, 02:20 PM
May 2012

Which, of course, he denies.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
43. All bullies are cowards - that kind of "apology" is no surprise...
Thu May 10, 2012, 03:20 PM
May 2012

imo this look into his character will have an impact with indies.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
44. I don't remember but I do remember he wasn't Gay
Thu May 10, 2012, 03:30 PM
May 2012

It gets worse.

Which is worse somebody that did it and remembers and is bothered by it.

Or some guy who just can't remember assaultin somebody.

In the third grade I said something really stupid that humiliated a girl in the class. I still remember it.

Can the country afford somebody with that kind of memory problem.

No matter how you cut this Mitt only the truth will set you free.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
46. Worse Yet, "Nothing Happened"
Thu May 10, 2012, 05:57 PM
May 2012

And that is why bullying continues to happen. It is often done by those immune to punishment because of who their parents are.

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