Lawyer representing Kim Davis compares her to a Jew under the Nazis

[IDemo]

Source: Raw Story

A lawyer representing Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis compared the fundamentalist, Constitution-defying public employee to Jews persecuted in Nazi Germany.

Davis was sent to jail on Thursday for continuing to disobey court orders to issue same-sex marriage licenses. She has maintained that complying with the Supreme Court’s landmark decision legalizing same-sex marriage in all 50 states violates her religious beliefs, according to Right Wing Watch.

Appearing on Crosstalk on Wednesday, attorney Matt Staver of the Liberty Counsel compared Davis to Jews under the Nazis.

“Does that mean that if you’re Christian, don’t apply here; if you’re a Jew, you gotta get — what happened in Nazi Germany, what happened there first, they removed the Jews from government public employment, then they stopped patronizing them in their private businesses, then they continued to stigmatize them, then they were the ‘problems,’ then they killed them,” Staver said. “The fact of the matter is, she has a right to this employment and you don’t lose your constitutional liberties just because you are employed by the government.”

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/lawyer-representing-kim-davis-compares-her-punishment-for-flouting-law-to-being-jewish-under-the-nazis/

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Gott im Himmel..

[geardaddy]

1. Oh FFS

[7wo7rees]

35. Exactly first thought! Oh for F's Sake!

Where is that pic of Jesus on a flatbed from Terry Schiavo days in Florida?
Anyone here still have it?
Please roll it out!!

[cpwm17]

43. Here it is I assume:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3887566

[msongs]

2. if she really believed her beliefs she would have herself crucified in public nt

[RKP5637]

28. Quick, give her a match!!!

[47of74]

30. She can make $$$ by selling tickets to it too.

[Action_Patrol]

47. You can never get the second nail in yourself.

[mnhtnbb]

3. Somebody step up and give the guy a history lesson.

What a classless, clueless moron.

[arcane1]

6. Hell, give him some law lessons while we're at it

"she has a right to this employment" indeed

[mnhtnbb]

8. I know. I hope this guy ends up disbarred.

What a doofus.

[BillH2]

38. Yep. But he'll probably make Partner instead.

Life's little ironies.

[dixiegrrrrl]

15. A closer look at dear ole Matt......Wiki sez:

Staver received his B.A. in theology from Southern Missionary College, his M.A. in Religion from Andrews University,
and his J.D. from the University of Kentucky.

In 2014 Staver was suspected of lying when testifying before the United States House of Representatives Subcommittee on the Constitution and Civil Justice when questioned on his support of the anti-gay laws in Uganda and Russia.

Liberty Counsel is headed by attorney Mathew D. Staver, who founded the legal ministry with his wife, Anita, in 1989 and currently serves as its chairman. Anita L. Staver, his wife, serves as president of Liberty Counsel. A close partnership exists between Liberty University, which was founded by the Rev. Jerry Falwell, and Liberty Counsel; Staver serves as Liberty University's law school dean.[1] In 2004, Liberty Counsel became affiliated with Liberty University/Falwell Ministries and Liberty Counsel opened an office at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia.

Liberty Counsel has been listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center

Matt is trying to make his bones on cases like this one.
Univ. of Kentucky is ranked 63rd in list of law schools.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/rankings.html

[LiberalElite]

44. "legal ministry"????

[Phlem]

4. and a martyr is born.

[BlueIdaho]

5. "Just Like Nazi Germany..."

Isn't that an automatic fail for just about any argument? I always read that as "I got nothing..."

[kairos12]

9. Godwin says yes.

[starroute]

34. What Godwin actually says is "No, seriously"

Mike Godwin, the originator of Godwin's Law, posted this story to Facebook with the one-line comment, "No, seriously, this is what Kim Davis's lawyer said."

[Gothmog]

7. This lawyer committed malpractice by advising her to go to jail

[Xipe Totec]

10. I wanted to be the starting pitcher for the Red Sox. Life Sucks. Get a Helmet

- Dennis Leary

[onenote]

11. For once i'd like to see these assholes forced to answer the following questions:

If Miss Davis' sincerely held religious beliefs "prevented" her from issuing marriage licenses to interracial couples, would her religious beliefs take precedence over the law?

If Miss Davis' sincerely held religious beliefs "prevented" her from issuing marriage licenses to interfaith couples, would her religious beliefs take precedence over the law?

And if Miss Davis refused to issue a marriage license to a couple because only one of them was Jewish, would punishing her for that refusal really be treating her the same as a Jew under the Nazis, or would she be the one acting like a Nazi to an actual Jew?

[DetlefK]

12. Oaths of office in the Third Reich didn't end with "So help me Jehova."

Her oath of office ended with "So help me God."
And I dare to claim that shows that Christianity enjoys a privileged status in the US.

[starroute]

16. And she's violating that oath by not performing the duties of the office

On the other hand, another post I saw earlier said that she belongs to a Christian Apostolic church whose members are not allowed to take oaths. So maybe she violated her own beliefs by taking the clerk's position at all.

[apnu]

20. There are quite a few passages in the bible about oaths

Especially ones that invoke God. Several specific rules about that.

See this link for specific passages: http://www.liberalamerica.org/2015/09/03/the-bible-absolutely-condemns-kentucky-clerk-kim-daviss-actions/

Seems to me that not only is she violating her civil duties, but her spiritual ones too. Making her twice the loser.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

37. Plus she's in jail - make that 3 times a loser - reminds me of a song

Kim's Once, Twice,.... Three times a Loser...

[apnu]

40. Like! (nt)

[jtuck004]

13. Perhaps..."A Jew Who Beat Jews in a Nazi Camp Is Stripped of His Citizenship"

...
A Polish-born Jew accused of wartime atrocities surrendered his United States citizenship before a Federal judge in Brooklyn yesterday and admitted that he brutalized Jewish prisoners in a Nazi forced-labor camp and later entered this country illegally.

But under an agreement with the Justice Department, the 77-year-old Brooklyn resident, Jacob Tannenbaum, will not be deported - an action the Government had sought for a year - because doctors for both sides agreed that his age and failing health would make it life-threatening.

Mr. Tannenbaum, who apparently suffered a stroke last August while testifying in the case, acknowledged yesterday that he had beaten fellow prisoners, even out of the presence of Nazi guards, while serving as a kapo, or inmate overseer, at the Gorlitz concentration camp in what is now East Germany in 1944 and 1945.
...

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/02/05/nyregion/a-jew-who-beat-jews-in-a-nazi-camp-is-stripped-of-his-citizenship.html

Guess it depends on what the abogado is referring to. She reminded me of this fellow.

[OutNow]

14. "you don’t lose your constitutional liberties just because you are employed by the government"

How did the lawyer from the Liberty Counsel pass the bar exam? What an ass hat. Ever hear of the Hatch Act? Ever hear of the UCMJ? There are countless ways that being employees by the government restricts the rights that you enjoy as a non-governmental employee.

Just about everyone knows that what you do as an employee (of the government or as an employee for a corporation) is much different than what you do in your private life. Can an employee preach a sermon to his/her coworkers during working hours? No. Why? Because it is not part of your job responsibilities and it is disruptive to the workplace, etc, etc. Repeated violations would likely lead to job termination.

[sarge43]

23. Counsel should make a careful study of an enlistment contract, DD Form 4

and unlike his client, a signatory of said contract can not violate it just because god told him to. Well yes, he can, but the consequences will most likely be extremely unpleasant.

[closeupready]

17. These clowns are absolutely DELUSIONAL. Certifiable.

[treestar]

18. How illogical

very twisted around. She is denying the gay people their rights. They're the ones who are the victims, not her.

[apnu]

19. Invoked Nazis... auto fail.

What a dick.

[Sunlei]

21. She would be dead if she was a Jew under the nazis.

[truthisfreedom]

22. In this analogy she's the nazi

Doing the oppressing.

[Enrique]

24. Nigeria and Russia are doing it right

according to him

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/barber-staver-want-see-russian-anti-gay-laws-right-here-united-states

Nigeria has done by reaffirming marriage as between one man and one woman is what a number of countries are doing around the world. They're reaffirming marriage as one man and one woman. Russia is one of those countries recently that did that. Latin American countries have reaffirmed marriage as one man and one woman. Then other countries around the world are reaffirming marriage as one man and one woman and rejecting this radicalized homosexual agenda. - See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/barber-staver-want-see-russian-anti-gay-laws-right-here-united-states#sthash.V405kZOr.dpuf

[Dont call me Shirley]

25. KD does not have a constitutional right to discriminate against others in her govt job.

[RKP5637]

26. Hmmmmmmmmm, seems she was the one doing the persecuting! The lawyer is a damn fool! n/t

[randys1]

27. My usual support for attorneys "no matter what" is out the window with this violent terrorist

who I see supports killing Gay people.

[47of74]

29. Could a judge sanction a lawyer who does that in court? Or could the bar impose discipline?

I'm just wondering if a judge would have standing to impose sanctions on a lawyer for making such an analogy in court? Or could a state bar impose their own discipline for a member who makes such an analogy in court?

On edit, year I know he didn't say this in court.

[Geronimoe]

31. However there seems to be no moral conflict

or conscience that she works for those Nazis and cashes paycheck issued by those Nazis.

A person with any ethical standards, given what she claims she believes, would have to resign.

[Turbineguy]

32. Gotta gin up that hate money.

[rockfordfile]

33. lame lawyer

the Nazis would actually support Kim Davis considering what the Nazis did to gay people.

[tabasco]

36. Let me know when they kill her with poison gas

you fucking moron.

[wordpix]

45. they didn't exactly cart her off in a boxcar with no food, water, air

[blackspade]

39. WTF?

Fucking idiot.

[Vinca]

41. Let me guess. Liberty "University" Law School?

[Skittles]

42. extremely offensive

[smirkymonkey]

46. Oh ffs! Get off the cross, we need the wood!

What a disgusting comparison. It is an insult to everyone who suffered through the Holocaust. How low can they get?

[yurbud]

48. maybe if she were a Jew who worked at a hot dog stand and realized the dogs have pork in them

and refused to sell any more dogs because it violates her religion.