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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 07:29 PM Sep 2015

CIA: Hillary Clinton's emails contained Top Secret information (+video)

Source: Christian Science Monitor

A CIA official claims Hillary Clinton's personal emails included information about North Korean nukes, but Clinton insists she 'did not send or receive any information marked classified.'

At least two of the emails Hillary Rodham Clinton received on her personal email account while secretary of State, including one about the North Korean nuclear program, contained highly classified information, claim CIA officials.

The CIA and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency “concluded that the emails were ‘Top Secret,’ the highest classification of government intelligence, when they were sent to Mrs. Clinton in 2009 and 2011," The New York Times reported Monday evening.

The Clinton camp immediately struck back, saying it disagreed with the conclusion of the intelligence review.



Read more: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2015/0908/CIA-Hillary-Clinton-s-emails-contained-Top-Secret-information-video

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CIA: Hillary Clinton's emails contained Top Secret information (+video) (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Sep 2015 OP
Keyword VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #1
"Received" on an insecure server Jesus Malverde Sep 2015 #4
Still a nothingburger because that wasnt illegal VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #6
Saw her interview and she is not being honest as the Department of State IG agreed back on 24601 Sep 2015 #21
You saw it and YOU...the non supporter decided VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #25
That cuts both ways. n/t Qutzupalotl Sep 2015 #33
How so? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #34
You saw it, and you the supporter Qutzupalotl Sep 2015 #36
Yes i saw....but i dont wear judges robes.. VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #37
You are indeed wearing judges robes - and with far less evidence. I don't hate her. I can like some 24601 Sep 2015 #49
Second Review Says Classified Information Was in Hillary Clinton’s Email Jesus Malverde Sep 2015 #2
BASH BASH BASH Hillary, BASH BASH BASH randys1 Sep 2015 #3
Interesting the bashing is coming from the executive branch. Jesus Malverde Sep 2015 #7
BASH BASH BASH Hillary, BASH BASH BASH randys1 Sep 2015 #9
LOL 840high Sep 2015 #52
BASH BASH BASH Hillary, BASH BASH BASH randys1 Sep 2015 #53
Elizabeth Warren wouldn't have this problem. It's another Clinton not a first woman issue. Exultant Democracy Sep 2015 #13
Warren said today she agrees with Donald Trump! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #15
Crying sexism is bullshit, slandering Warren is equally bullshit Exultant Democracy Sep 2015 #20
Not crying at all..... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #22
So if Clinton looks like an out of touch insider that hires incompetents Exultant Democracy Sep 2015 #29
But she doesnt.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #31
This has nothing to do with 840high Sep 2015 #40
LOL randys1 Sep 2015 #51
I'd wouldn't use the liberal label liberally. Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2015 #50
Just because it wasn't marked classified doesn't mean is shouldn't have been marked. A Simple Game Sep 2015 #5
And still a nothing burger.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #8
We were warned that the right would stoop low, stop at nothing, use people and the media randys1 Sep 2015 #10
Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #11
Maybe the eight years of Bush that followed the last candle ridden Clinton admin give us pause Exultant Democracy Sep 2015 #17
Candle ridden, VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #38
Well you don't have to worry abut Sanders supporters. zeemike Sep 2015 #19
...^ that 840high Sep 2015 #41
I have no idea what your work history is but for mine since the mid 90s A Simple Game Sep 2015 #24
Except for the fact it was standard practice and not against the law... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #39
I work for a research organization that... PosterChild Sep 2015 #45
My company is absolutely clear Yupster Sep 2015 #47
Yes you're right Sanders supporters and Republicans, in combination that makes a majority. A Simple Game Sep 2015 #18
Uh no....you have delusions of granduer VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #23
I forget, tell me again what her trustworthiness numbers are. n/t A Simple Game Sep 2015 #26
Tell me again why his odds are 5%? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #27
Even you know better than that. You can't even keep it interesting and fun so... bye. n/t A Simple Game Sep 2015 #30
You are right i do know better VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #32
Some underling is about to walk the plank HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #14
They spare no expense hounding Clintons VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #28
Gee. No wonder she finally felt compelled to say she was sorry. RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #12
Recieved, I recieve a ton of stuff every freaking day I have to wade through... Historic NY Sep 2015 #16
which is why the FBI is tracing the emails backwards to learn from whence they came magical thyme Sep 2015 #35
I don't believe a damn thing the CIA says. blackspade Sep 2015 #42
The FuckING Key Word Zo Zig Sep 2015 #43
State Department says no. Not top secret. This is between the CIA and the State department. Laser102 Sep 2015 #44
Um, no. At one time, I was read into the classified program dealing with satellite intelligence. Big_Mike Sep 2015 #54
Severs all guss Sep 2015 #46
The private email sever was a bonehead move on Clinton's part. jalan48 Sep 2015 #48
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #55
 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
6. Still a nothingburger because that wasnt illegal
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 07:37 PM
Sep 2015

Last edited Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Despration sucks doesnt it?

24601

(3,962 posts)
21. Saw her interview and she is not being honest as the Department of State IG agreed back on
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:10 PM
Sep 2015

24 July that the information was classified at the time it was originated.

"The IC IG found four emails containing classified IC-derived information in a limited sample of 40 emails of the 30,000 emails provided by former Secretary Clinton. The four emails, which have not been released through the State FOIA process, did not contain classification markings and/or dissemination controls. These emails were not retroactively classified by the State Department; rather these emails contained classified information when they were generated and, according to IC classification officials, that information remains classified today. This classified information information should never have been transmitted via an unclassified personal system."

http://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/210-press-releases-2015/1232-statement-from-the-inspectors-general-of-the-intelligence-community-and-the-department-of-state-regarding-the-review-of-former-secretary-clinton-s-emails

And it was stored on her unsecure server. Still unable or unwilling to tell the truth, she is clearly unfit for office and, as President Obama is famous for saying..."Period!"

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
34. How so?
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:21 PM
Sep 2015

Oh yeah right this is idealist central...yes 50 brazillion other scandals later and they still never learn...



Innocent until proven guilty still applies....benefit of the doubt...Clinton...

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
37. Yes i saw....but i dont wear judges robes..
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:26 PM
Sep 2015

Faux scandal after faux scandal after Faux scandal.....I think that deserves to be considered...attacking her her whole career...

THEY hate her....and that tells me she must be doing somethimg right...

24601

(3,962 posts)
49. You are indeed wearing judges robes - and with far less evidence. I don't hate her. I can like some
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 03:31 AM
Sep 2015

someone and still believe they are unfit for office. I do in this case.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
2. Second Review Says Classified Information Was in Hillary Clinton’s Email
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 07:33 PM
Sep 2015
A special intelligence review of two emails that Hillary Rodham Clinton received as secretary of state on her personal account — including one about North Korea’s nuclear weapons program — has endorsed a finding by the inspector general for the intelligence agencies that the emails contained highly classified information when Mrs. Clinton received them, senior intelligence officials said.

Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign and the State Department disputed the inspector general’s finding last month and questioned whether the emails had been overclassified by an arbitrary process. But the special review — by the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency — concluded that the emails were “Top Secret,” the highest classification of government intelligence, when they were sent to Mrs. Clinton in 2009 and 2011.

On Monday, the Clinton campaign disagreed with the conclusion of the intelligence review and noted that agencies within the government often have different views of what should be considered classified.

snip

I. Charles McCullough III, the inspector general for the intelligence community, found the two emails containing what he determined was “Top Secret” information in the course of reviewing a sampling of 40 of Mrs. Clinton’s work-related emails for potential security breaches.

The senior intelligence officials briefed on the findings of the review spoke on the condition of anonymity because they did not want to jeopardize their access to sensitive information.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/08/us/politics/second-review-says-classified-information-was-in-hillary-clintons-email.html?_r=0

More leaks from the executive branch.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
7. Interesting the bashing is coming from the executive branch.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 07:37 PM
Sep 2015

In this case presumably people associated with the CIA.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
15. Warren said today she agrees with Donald Trump!
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 07:50 PM
Sep 2015

And yeah go ahead and blame HER for their faux scandals.....they are like troll stalkers...

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
20. Crying sexism is bullshit, slandering Warren is equally bullshit
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:08 PM
Sep 2015

She said The rich should pay more taxes, Trump is agreeing with a position she has held a long time. When Clinton returns Trumps donations you can start the motors on that claptrap.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
5. Just because it wasn't marked classified doesn't mean is shouldn't have been marked.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 07:36 PM
Sep 2015

It could mean the person sending it was too ignorant or lazy to mark it classified.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
10. We were warned that the right would stoop low, stop at nothing, use people and the media
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 07:39 PM
Sep 2015

to attack the Clintons.

They literally have NO story here, nothing.

And yet, it is like Watergate times 10

Response to randys1 (Reply #10)

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
17. Maybe the eight years of Bush that followed the last candle ridden Clinton admin give us pause
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 07:59 PM
Sep 2015

Most of us would think given the track record that a lot of what has happened with this server goes right to judgment.

You have to answer the question "knowing what she knows today would Clinton still have pulled the private email stunt." if the answer is no than shouldn't she have known better. I have balanced a .com .org and .gov emails all at the same time with no trouble. In fact for legal reasons I have always kept a strict segregation between my accounts to limit my exposure and the cost of responding to subpoenas. Best practices are just that and when someone working at the highest levels is flubbing the basics it starts the alarms going.

From what I have observed in person and gleamed from my interaction with Clinton insiders is that she ends up hiring a lot of goobers for jobs they have no ability to do. Like the 2008 field team that predicted they would win %100 of all caucus votes.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
38. Candle ridden,
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:29 PM
Sep 2015

Yes lots of faux scandals....which is why you should know better than to trust a RW meme......and thatbis exactly what this is...

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
19. Well you don't have to worry abut Sanders supporters.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:03 PM
Sep 2015

It is the independent and not political junkie voters you have to worry about...and no matter how you cut it it looks bad. Spin it and blame it on right wingers all you want but Hillary did it and Hillary will have to accept responsibility for it even if you don't.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
24. I have no idea what your work history is but for mine since the mid 90s
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:11 PM
Sep 2015

every job I had I was expected to use the company provided email for all business communications and to save to the company server and only to the company server. I can't imagine anyone thinking it would be a good idea to use your private email for official purposes. Why would anyone put themselves through the work of sorting private and business emails?

I would think even a private contractor would have a separate email for business transactions, I know I would if I were in a position as a contractor.

It is pretty much standard procedure except for the Secretary of State it seems.

Maybe your work experience is different.

PosterChild

(1,307 posts)
45. I work for a research organization that...
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 09:45 PM
Sep 2015

.... does classified work forced the military. We are defenitly note about government organization, we ate a non-profit contractor.

I don't do classified work but I have to take and understand compliance training for classified, FOIA, ITAR, etc.

We do not have any restrictions against using our personal email accounts for business purposes and we alla do it occasionally. Of course we can't do this with classified material but we do have to follow ITAR restrictions, etc. and that does not prohibit use of a personal email account.

Personally I think these email accusations are pretty lame. They should go back to bengazi, which at least, prima facia, is a substantive issue . No one outsider of one or another echo chamber is going to get alleged the excited about email.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
47. My company is absolutely clear
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 02:35 AM
Sep 2015

No company business on personal e-mail. They want to be able to see every work related e-mail.

They discourage private e-mails on company computer but that is not as big a deal as no company business on personal e-mail. That's a one warning and fine, followed by firing if a second time.

Of course I would have been gone in a second if I had sex with one of our interns too.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
18. Yes you're right Sanders supporters and Republicans, in combination that makes a majority.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:01 PM
Sep 2015

Oh and probably a significant number of unaffiliated voters like me.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
14. Some underling is about to walk the plank
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 07:47 PM
Sep 2015

These unscandals still have costs, sometimes people's jobs as will likely happen to the person that sent these over an unauthorized carrier

Sometimes in the salaries of 50 people that have to be hired to deal with FOIA requests to DOS that the unscandal generated

Mopping up isn't going to be free

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
12. Gee. No wonder she finally felt compelled to say she was sorry.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 07:43 PM
Sep 2015

But the question remains: Why did she set up a private server in the first place?

And don't give me that crap about how all the other kids (Colin, Jeb!, and even little Scottie Walker) were doing it, too. Any self-respecting mother would quickly shoot down that lame excuse. (In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary ultimately got grounded for this. "No inauguration for you, young lady!&quot

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
16. Recieved, I recieve a ton of stuff every freaking day I have to wade through...
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 07:55 PM
Sep 2015

by the time I get through the bullshit I might recognized a few e-mails that need replies. The question should go to the sender not the receiver.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
35. which is why the FBI is tracing the emails backwards to learn from whence they came
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:23 PM
Sep 2015

But she still had a responsibility to recognize top secret data and immediately report a suspected security breach. Not hide it on an unsecure private server.

I expect they will also want to know exactly when the server was wiped. Mills testified that it was wiped "after" her staffer sorted the personal from the work-related emails. But how long after?

Before the official request came to turn the server over? Or after that request?

Because one of those 2 answers would be obstruction of justice.

Laser102

(816 posts)
44. State Department says no. Not top secret. This is between the CIA and the State department.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 09:28 PM
Sep 2015

Just saw a spokesman for the State Department saying they disagreed with the CIA classification. How the hell this is Hillary's problem is beyond me. If it was sent and then years later reclassified, it shows that either the State Department is incompetent or the CIA is doing what Kerry said and going overboard with their retroactive classifications. Some of the top secret documents can be read on Google. Idiots, all of them. The only thing this shows is how far the Hillary haters will go to stop her. Won't work!!! !

Big_Mike

(509 posts)
54. Um, no. At one time, I was read into the classified program dealing with satellite intelligence.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:37 PM
Sep 2015

If it has ANYTHING to do with describing information gathered from satellites, it is classified. Period fucking dot. About the only thing unclassified is that the satellites take pictures of the ground. Anything about how good, or what they see or determine is classified. The only way that the information is unclassified is if the originating authority, such as the National Geospatial Authority or higher (President basically) signs off on declassifying it before the automatic declassification date (around 25 to 50 years, IIRC). Alarms should have been ringing when she got the unclassified email had she been doing her job. Emails began wide use when Warren Christopher was Secretary of State, but I doubt he ever saw anything other than Telexes. For damn sure, Powell or Albright would have recognized it; Rice, after having been NSA head, probably.

This is definitely an issue. Politicians are a dime a gross, if not even less. Get Joe to run so that Bernie has competition. Hillary is damaged goods. Wouldn't it be wonderful for her to be elected only to grant herself a pardon?

guss

(239 posts)
46. Severs all
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 12:49 AM
Sep 2015

The Bush and Cheney admin destroyed 5 mill fed emails over there term.
Turd blossom used personal emails to dismiss federal prosicuders.
No investagations for these gangsters. why should there be more for whom they sliming?

jalan48

(13,865 posts)
48. The private email sever was a bonehead move on Clinton's part.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 02:40 AM
Sep 2015

Regardless of the classified, non-classified issue the bigger question is about her decision making skills. If she becomes President what assurance do we have that she won't make more colossal blunders like this one?

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