CIA: Hillary Clinton's emails contained Top Secret information (+video)
Source: Christian Science Monitor
A CIA official claims Hillary Clinton's personal emails included information about North Korean nukes, but Clinton insists she 'did not send or receive any information marked classified.'
At least two of the emails Hillary Rodham Clinton received on her personal email account while secretary of State, including one about the North Korean nuclear program, contained highly classified information, claim CIA officials.
The CIA and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency concluded that the emails were Top Secret, the highest classification of government intelligence, when they were sent to Mrs. Clinton in 2009 and 2011," The New York Times reported Monday evening.
The Clinton camp immediately struck back, saying it disagreed with the conclusion of the intelligence review.
Read more: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2015/0908/CIA-Hillary-Clinton-s-emails-contained-Top-Secret-information-video
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)"Received"
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Isn't that the Key.
VanillaRhapsody
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Despration sucks doesnt it?
24601
(3,962 posts)24 July that the information was classified at the time it was originated.
"The IC IG found four emails containing classified IC-derived information in a limited sample of 40 emails of the 30,000 emails provided by former Secretary Clinton. The four emails, which have not been released through the State FOIA process, did not contain classification markings and/or dissemination controls. These emails were not retroactively classified by the State Department; rather these emails contained classified information when they were generated and, according to IC classification officials, that information remains classified today. This classified information information should never have been transmitted via an unclassified personal system."
http://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/210-press-releases-2015/1232-statement-from-the-inspectors-general-of-the-intelligence-community-and-the-department-of-state-regarding-the-review-of-former-secretary-clinton-s-emails
And it was stored on her unsecure server. Still unable or unwilling to tell the truth, she is clearly unfit for office and, as President Obama is famous for saying..."Period!"
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Yeah sounds completely legit!
Qutzupalotl
(14,311 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Oh yeah right this is idealist central...yes 50 brazillion other scandals later and they still never learn...
Innocent until proven guilty still applies....benefit of the doubt...Clinton...
Qutzupalotl
(14,311 posts)had no problems with it whatsoever. Can you be objective?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Faux scandal after faux scandal after Faux scandal.....I think that deserves to be considered...attacking her her whole career...
THEY hate her....and that tells me she must be doing somethimg right...
24601
(3,962 posts)someone and still believe they are unfit for office. I do in this case.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Mrs. Clintons presidential campaign and the State Department disputed the inspector generals finding last month and questioned whether the emails had been overclassified by an arbitrary process. But the special review by the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency concluded that the emails were Top Secret, the highest classification of government intelligence, when they were sent to Mrs. Clinton in 2009 and 2011.
On Monday, the Clinton campaign disagreed with the conclusion of the intelligence review and noted that agencies within the government often have different views of what should be considered classified.
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The senior intelligence officials briefed on the findings of the review spoke on the condition of anonymity because they did not want to jeopardize their access to sensitive information.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/08/us/politics/second-review-says-classified-information-was-in-hillary-clintons-email.html?_r=0
More leaks from the executive branch.
randys1
(16,286 posts)A Woman liberal president?
No fucking way, BASH BASH BASH
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)In this case presumably people associated with the CIA.
randys1
(16,286 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)Exultant Democracy
(6,594 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)And yeah go ahead and blame HER for their faux scandals.....they are like troll stalkers...
Exultant Democracy
(6,594 posts)She said The rich should pay more taxes, Trump is agreeing with a position she has held a long time. When Clinton returns Trumps donations you can start the motors on that claptrap.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)If it walks and talks like a duck....it probably is a duck
Exultant Democracy
(6,594 posts)Than that is probably what she is?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)74% chance just in the Primary....sounds pretty relevant to me!
840high
(17,196 posts)her being a woman.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)It could mean the person sending it was too ignorant or lazy to mark it classified.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)And no one but Sanders supporters and republicans care....
randys1
(16,286 posts)to attack the Clintons.
They literally have NO story here, nothing.
And yet, it is like Watergate times 10
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Exultant Democracy
(6,594 posts)Most of us would think given the track record that a lot of what has happened with this server goes right to judgment.
You have to answer the question "knowing what she knows today would Clinton still have pulled the private email stunt." if the answer is no than shouldn't she have known better. I have balanced a .com .org and .gov emails all at the same time with no trouble. In fact for legal reasons I have always kept a strict segregation between my accounts to limit my exposure and the cost of responding to subpoenas. Best practices are just that and when someone working at the highest levels is flubbing the basics it starts the alarms going.
From what I have observed in person and gleamed from my interaction with Clinton insiders is that she ends up hiring a lot of goobers for jobs they have no ability to do. Like the 2008 field team that predicted they would win %100 of all caucus votes.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Yes lots of faux scandals....which is why you should know better than to trust a RW meme......and thatbis exactly what this is...
zeemike
(18,998 posts)It is the independent and not political junkie voters you have to worry about...and no matter how you cut it it looks bad. Spin it and blame it on right wingers all you want but Hillary did it and Hillary will have to accept responsibility for it even if you don't.
840high
(17,196 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)every job I had I was expected to use the company provided email for all business communications and to save to the company server and only to the company server. I can't imagine anyone thinking it would be a good idea to use your private email for official purposes. Why would anyone put themselves through the work of sorting private and business emails?
I would think even a private contractor would have a separate email for business transactions, I know I would if I were in a position as a contractor.
It is pretty much standard procedure except for the Secretary of State it seems.
Maybe your work experience is different.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)PosterChild
(1,307 posts).... does classified work forced the military. We are defenitly note about government organization, we ate a non-profit contractor.
I don't do classified work but I have to take and understand compliance training for classified, FOIA, ITAR, etc.
We do not have any restrictions against using our personal email accounts for business purposes and we alla do it occasionally. Of course we can't do this with classified material but we do have to follow ITAR restrictions, etc. and that does not prohibit use of a personal email account.
Personally I think these email accusations are pretty lame. They should go back to bengazi, which at least, prima facia, is a substantive issue . No one outsider of one or another echo chamber is going to get alleged the excited about email.
Yupster
(14,308 posts)No company business on personal e-mail. They want to be able to see every work related e-mail.
They discourage private e-mails on company computer but that is not as big a deal as no company business on personal e-mail. That's a one warning and fine, followed by firing if a second time.
Of course I would have been gone in a second if I had sex with one of our interns too.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Oh and probably a significant number of unaffiliated voters like me.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)His base is not as big as you think
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Because you cannot win on the White male vote alone!
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)These unscandals still have costs, sometimes people's jobs as will likely happen to the person that sent these over an unauthorized carrier
Sometimes in the salaries of 50 people that have to be hired to deal with FOIA requests to DOS that the unscandal generated
Mopping up isn't going to be free
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)But the question remains: Why did she set up a private server in the first place?
And don't give me that crap about how all the other kids (Colin, Jeb!, and even little Scottie Walker) were doing it, too. Any self-respecting mother would quickly shoot down that lame excuse. (In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary ultimately got grounded for this. "No inauguration for you, young lady!"
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)by the time I get through the bullshit I might recognized a few e-mails that need replies. The question should go to the sender not the receiver.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)But she still had a responsibility to recognize top secret data and immediately report a suspected security breach. Not hide it on an unsecure private server.
I expect they will also want to know exactly when the server was wiped. Mills testified that it was wiped "after" her staffer sorted the personal from the work-related emails. But how long after?
Before the official request came to turn the server over? Or after that request?
Because one of those 2 answers would be obstruction of justice.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Another un-named source at the CIA?
Who'd a thunk it?
Zo Zig
(600 posts)Is The New York Times.
Laser102
(816 posts)Just saw a spokesman for the State Department saying they disagreed with the CIA classification. How the hell this is Hillary's problem is beyond me. If it was sent and then years later reclassified, it shows that either the State Department is incompetent or the CIA is doing what Kerry said and going overboard with their retroactive classifications. Some of the top secret documents can be read on Google. Idiots, all of them. The only thing this shows is how far the Hillary haters will go to stop her. Won't work!!! !
Big_Mike
(509 posts)If it has ANYTHING to do with describing information gathered from satellites, it is classified. Period fucking dot. About the only thing unclassified is that the satellites take pictures of the ground. Anything about how good, or what they see or determine is classified. The only way that the information is unclassified is if the originating authority, such as the National Geospatial Authority or higher (President basically) signs off on declassifying it before the automatic declassification date (around 25 to 50 years, IIRC). Alarms should have been ringing when she got the unclassified email had she been doing her job. Emails began wide use when Warren Christopher was Secretary of State, but I doubt he ever saw anything other than Telexes. For damn sure, Powell or Albright would have recognized it; Rice, after having been NSA head, probably.
This is definitely an issue. Politicians are a dime a gross, if not even less. Get Joe to run so that Bernie has competition. Hillary is damaged goods. Wouldn't it be wonderful for her to be elected only to grant herself a pardon?
guss
(239 posts)The Bush and Cheney admin destroyed 5 mill fed emails over there term.
Turd blossom used personal emails to dismiss federal prosicuders.
No investagations for these gangsters. why should there be more for whom they sliming?
jalan48
(13,865 posts)Regardless of the classified, non-classified issue the bigger question is about her decision making skills. If she becomes President what assurance do we have that she won't make more colossal blunders like this one?
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