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TexasTowelie

(112,147 posts)
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 05:57 AM Sep 2015

Iran's Supreme Leader: No US Negotiations Outside Nuke Deal

Source: AP

Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Wednesday that his country will not enter into talks with the United States outside of the nuclear deal with world powers as Washington could use other negotiations to "penetrate" the Islamic Republic.

Khamenei's comments, published on his website, come as enough U.S. lawmakers now support the nuclear deal to block passage of a resolution of disapproval and hand President Barack Obama a major foreign policy victory.

"We approved talks with the United States about nuclear issue specifically. We have not allowed talks with the U.S. in other fields and we not negotiate with them," Khamenei said.

Speaking to a group of people in Tehran, Khamenei reiterated that America remains the "Great Satan."

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/irans-supreme-leader-us-negotiations-nuke-deal-33620886

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Iran's Supreme Leader: No US Negotiations Outside Nuke Deal (Original Post) TexasTowelie Sep 2015 OP
That is unfortunate oberliner Sep 2015 #1
Can? madokie Sep 2015 #3
In the general election campaign oberliner Sep 2015 #4
Anything with Obama's stamp of approval will not happen madokie Sep 2015 #5
Obama and Kerry have both said the International agreement is not predicated on Iran karynnj Sep 2015 #6
This is actually evidence the deal is good 6chars Sep 2015 #2
there hasn't been regime change, so of course they're going to talk like this nt geek tragedy Sep 2015 #7
Fuck you and your great satan, dickwad. Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2015 #8
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. In the general election campaign
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 06:47 AM
Sep 2015

it seems to be a pretty clear Democrats on one side Republicans on the other kind of situation.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
5. Anything with Obama's stamp of approval will not happen
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 06:50 AM
Sep 2015

if at all possible. These 'CONs are rabid dogs. My apologies to rabid dogs too.

There's a pattern supporting what I'm saying if you care to notice.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
6. Obama and Kerry have both said the International agreement is not predicated on Iran
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 11:38 AM
Sep 2015

improving in other areas. It would be a nice side benefit as they did, but the ONLY thing this agreement is based on is keeping them from getting an nuclear bomb. Assume that they do refuse to change in any other way, is it better that they are under this agreement -- or back to where they were before negotiations - about 3 months from a nuclear bomb. THE MORE RECALCITRANT IRAN IS THE MORE IMPORTANT THIS DEAL REMAINS.

Do you prefer where we were? Where it was internal Israeli forces that at least three times stopped Netanyahu from attacking Iran? Note that Iran already has the knowledge required to make a bomb, this means that even if every facility is blown to pieces, they could rebuild facilities in an estimated 3 to 5 years - according to both Israeli and US estimates. So, do we want to initiate a military action - that could with high likelihood become a war OR do we accept an agreement, that if followed, keeps Iran from getting a bomb for at least 15 years?

Not to mention, we have seen this before. Remember before the interim agreement, before the framework, and before the final deal -- hardliners in Iran, including the Ayatollah put out many many statements that YOU JUMPED ON to suggest that Kerry/Obama were naive or not telling the full story. Yet, as Kerry responded many times when Republicans claimed the framework was not real --- that they could look at who said what before the interim deal and it was clear that the international community did really get a deal in line with what they said was agreed. In July, we saw that the deal is in line with the framework -- just as Kerry and others said.

Now, there was ONE comment of hope - where Kerry spoke of Zarif telling him that he might be able to work with him on regional issues. This appears to be real, though that should not be interpreted to mean that Zarif will suddenly back the US position - whether on Syria or Yemen -- any more than Lavrov speaking with Kerry does not mean that Russia's position changes in that direction.

Not to mention, from reading various opinions on the impact of this deal - it seems that there is actually a fear that Iran DOES moderate enough that they become a stronger geo-political force in the area. For many neo cons, this is a huge negative, rather than a potential positive. In fact, I suspect that much of the anger over this agreement is that it is an absolute step back from neo con ideas.

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