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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:15 PM Sep 2015

Huckabee: Dred Scott Decision 'Remains To This Day The Law Of The Land'

Source: TPM

Republican presidential candidate and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee said on Wednesday that the Supreme Court decision that upheld slavery "remains to this day the law of the land."

Huckabee appeared on conservative radio host Michael Medved's show to defend Kentucky county clerk Kim Davis, who went to jail for contempt of court after refusing to issue same-sex marriage licenses. The former governor compared the Supreme Court's recent decision to legalize same sex marriage to the Dred Scott decision, which upheld slavery.

“Michael, the Dred Scott decision of 1857 still remains to this day the law of the land which says that black people aren’t fully human," he told the radio host. "Does anybody still follow the Dred Scott Supreme Court decision?”

Medved corrected Huckabee, noting that the Dred Scott ruling was later overturned by a constitutional amendment. “Well the Dred Scott decision was overturned by the 13th amendment and if you go look at the Lincoln-Douglas debates in 1858 right after the Dred Scott decision was adjudicated, Governor — and seriously it’s right there — Lincoln says, ‘we must respect this decision as the will of the court but I think it was wrongly decided and now we must overcome it.’"

(Medved got his history wrong — the 13th amendment abolished slavery, but the 14th amendment overturned the Supreme Court decision.)

-snip-

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mike-huckabee-dred-scott-still-law



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Huckabee: Dred Scott Decision 'Remains To This Day The Law Of The Land' (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2015 OP
Good God. n/t MBS Sep 2015 #1
please someone angryvet Sep 2015 #2
lol but sad and possibly true. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #15
ugh Kenjie Sep 2015 #3
huckabee's entire professional life is based on fairy tales and myths nt msongs Sep 2015 #4
The Stupid Train rolls on... louis-t Sep 2015 #5
Why bother? His constituents know even less than he does CanonRay Sep 2015 #11
Exactly what I was going to say... dorkzilla Sep 2015 #16
It is? wcmagumba Sep 2015 #6
Do you think modrepub Sep 2015 #7
Has there ever been sulphurdunn Sep 2015 #8
" " " " n/t MBS Sep 2015 #9
Huckabee: Dred Scott Decision 'Remains To This Day The Law Of The Land' The CCC Sep 2015 #10
. sarisataka Sep 2015 #13
Huckabee is un-Koalafied! nt appal_jack Sep 2015 #18
HA! You win this thread! gregcrawford Sep 2015 #19
. sarisataka Sep 2015 #20
LOL! Art_from_Ark Sep 2015 #21
I was wrong about Gov. Mike Huckabee left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #12
Huckabee seems to be looking for the Sovereign Citizen vote jmowreader Sep 2015 #14
he really needs to stop talking restorefreedom Sep 2015 #17
Huckabee is Ken Starr's creation Art_from_Ark Sep 2015 #22
He probably read that on the intertubes... ReallyIAmAnOptimist Sep 2015 #23
Please Remember Dred Scot had NINE Opinions: happyslug Sep 2015 #24
Just another winger who doesn't believe in the 14th Amendment dflprincess Sep 2015 #25
Mass media on any of the truckload of insanity of the 17 GOP "candidates": Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #26
They are ignorant and/or they lie, constantly SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #27
Sounds like Huckabee is too stupid to be President... HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #28
Fuckabee wants to go back to the 50s. The 1850s that is. 47of74 Sep 2015 #29
Huckabee knows the 14th amendment overturned Dred Scot. Archae Sep 2015 #30
DECISION 2016: The GOP Douchebag Contest continues! Major Hogwash Sep 2015 #31

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
16. Exactly what I was going to say...
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:38 PM
Sep 2015

He’ll never get caught up in his stupidity, because he is a relative genius.

wcmagumba

(2,886 posts)
6. It is?
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:27 PM
Sep 2015

OMG-What an idiot. He just wishes it were still the law...racist, homophobic jerk and patriarch to evil dog killers....

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
7. Do you think
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:29 PM
Sep 2015

Huckabee has any idea that this case galvanized Northern sentiment against slavery and catapulted the Republican Party to victory in the 1860 election? Nah, he has no clue.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
8. Has there ever been
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:35 PM
Sep 2015

a more shamelessly opportunistic, stupid, and unAmerican slate of candidates running for the republican presidential nomination? I thought it couldn't get any worse after GW Bush. Boy was I wrong.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
12. I was wrong about Gov. Mike Huckabee
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:28 PM
Sep 2015

I thought he wanted to be President
but I guess he's running for King of Stupid.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
14. Huckabee seems to be looking for the Sovereign Citizen vote
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:35 PM
Sep 2015

One of them told me Chisholm v. Georgia was still good law. Chisholm v. Georgia was overturned by the 11th Amendment, but that's beside the point. A fairly common Sovereign Citizen (SOVCIT) belief is that the first nine amendments - NOT the first 10 which were all ratified on the same day in a batch, but just One through Nine - are the only ones that are valid.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
22. Huckabee is Ken Starr's creation
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 07:58 PM
Sep 2015

Huckabee would in all likelihood have ended his political career as an obscure lieutenant governor if Ken Starr hadn't been hell-bent on bringing anyone associated with Bill Clinton down during his witch hunts. Starr honed in on Arkansas' Democratic governor at the time, Jim Guy Tucker, and found a couple of chronic liars to testify against Tucker, resulting in Tucker's ouster and Huckabee's ascension to the governorship. Starr never would have done that if the lieutenant governor at the time had been a Democrat.

23. He probably read that on the intertubes...
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 08:45 PM
Sep 2015

...and confirmation bias took it from there.

Serious frontal lobe impairment...

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
24. Please Remember Dred Scot had NINE Opinions:
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:14 PM
Sep 2015
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/60/393

Two other Justices (Wayne and Campbell) agreed with Taney but then wrote the own concurrence with that opinion.

One other opinion had another Justice concur with it rather then Taney's opinion (Nelson and Grier) but even there you had a slight disagreement on WHY Scot was still a slave.

As to the two dissenting Justice, they could not agree on a single opinion either.

I bring this up for while slavery was abolished by the 13th amendment and made it clear that African Americas were CITIZENS by the 14th. Taney in his opinion ruled that African Americas were NOT citizens at the time of the signing of the Constitution and as such were never citizens of the US. As non-citizens African Americans had no right to sue in US Courts.

Thus which opinion was over turned by the 13th and 14th amendments? The accepted answer it Taney's opinion, but the other opinions were also factors. Just a comment on Dred Scot.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
25. Just another winger who doesn't believe in the 14th Amendment
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:47 PM
Sep 2015

we shouldn't be surprised - though Huckabee's level of denial is impressive.

I've thought all along that the attack on it really isn't about "birthright" citizenship but a way to go after the equal protection clause.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
27. They are ignorant and/or they lie, constantly
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:57 PM
Sep 2015

And then we have to spend time and money correcting/refuting it. They win by being stupid and dishonest.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
29. Fuckabee wants to go back to the 50s. The 1850s that is.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:01 PM
Sep 2015

The same 1850s where people owned other human beings.

Fuck him.

Double fuck him in fact.

Archae

(46,327 posts)
30. Huckabee knows the 14th amendment overturned Dred Scot.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:03 PM
Sep 2015

He wants to pander to the "Impeach the Supreme Court" John Birchers/Teabaggers.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
31. DECISION 2016: The GOP Douchebag Contest continues!
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 12:48 AM
Sep 2015

Who will be the biggest douchebag for the Republican party next year?
Tune in tomorrow to hear even more dumb things the latest contestants will say in a pitiful rush spiraling down in to the sewer!!

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