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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 08:26 PM Sep 2015

Japanese Lawmakers OK Greater Overseas Role For Military

Source: CNN

By Will Ripley, Jason Hanna and Eimi Yamamitsu, CNN
Updated 7:46 PM ET, Fri September 18, 2015

Tokyo (CNN)Japan's upper chamber of Parliament early Saturday approved controversial bills allowing the country's military to engage in overseas combat in limited circumstances -- a major shift after seven decades of pacifism.

The 148-90 vote was the final hurdle for the measures, which will go into effect within roughly the next six months. The lower parliamentary chamber passed the bills in July.

The legislation reinterprets Article 9 of the Japan's pacifist post-World War II constitution, which outlaws war as a means of settling international disputes. The reinterpretation will now allow the Japanese military, known as the Self-Defense Forces, to defend its allies in a limited role in conflicts abroad.

Japanese troops operating overseas had previously been limited to humanitarian roles.

Article 9 of Japan's constitution says, in part, "Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/18/asia/japan-military-constitution/index.html

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Japanese Lawmakers OK Greater Overseas Role For Military (Original Post) Purveyor Sep 2015 OP
FANtastic news! Cosmic Kitten Sep 2015 #1
It's a slow creep toward remilitarizing Japan davidpdx Sep 2015 #2
I believe it's far too early to determine the effects of the new law. branford Sep 2015 #3
The opposition to it is one thing that gives me hope. It is a small step by Japan, davidpdx Sep 2015 #4
By your own analysis, it appears a remilitarization of Japan branford Sep 2015 #5
Hopefully it is only for self-defense davidpdx Sep 2015 #6

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
1. FANtastic news!
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 10:16 PM
Sep 2015

Now maybe the Japanese can help us
beat the Sunni Wahhabi Muslims into oblivion!

Someone has got to stop ISIL!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
2. It's a slow creep toward remilitarizing Japan
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 12:19 AM
Sep 2015

I believe this is just the start for Abe and his party.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
3. I believe it's far too early to determine the effects of the new law.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:45 AM
Sep 2015

The culture of today's Japan is not the same as early and mid 20th century.

There is also still a great deal of opposition to the new law, and any military adventurism or casualties could see the law quickly reversed. A settlement between Japan and China concerning their dispute about certain Pacific Islands, a significant source of Japanese insecurity, may additionally lessen support for the law and policy. Conversely, if the dispute heats up, the Japanese might indeed support ever increasing proactive militarization.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
4. The opposition to it is one thing that gives me hope. It is a small step by Japan,
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:30 AM
Sep 2015

but a significant one. For China to come in and start building the equivalent of military bases off the coast of other nations means they not only want to control the resources under the sea, they also want to control the traffic ON the sea (regardless of what international treaty). I don't blame Japan and other countries who feel threatened. I would too.

I do not foresee China wanting to settle the disputes in the Pacific (I wouldn't call all of them islands because some in fact are reefs that are being built on) unless they are settled on China's terms. Also remember it is not just Japan that China has a despite with, it is also South Korea, the Philippines, Vietnam, and Malaysia as well (there maybe some I'm leaving out, but those are the major ones). Then you have the conflicts between South Korea and Japan over Dokdo Island and several other countries making claims to multiple islands or reefs.

My major concern is a military build up in Asia especially with right-wing governments in both Japan and South Korea. I'm not sure if you heard, but the US and the Philippines are talking about having troops there again. Fisherman in the Philippines are being attacked by Chinese boats off their coast.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
5. By your own analysis, it appears a remilitarization of Japan
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:50 PM
Sep 2015

might be justified for legitimate self-defense purposes, to say nothing of increased direct US military involvement in the region in response to China's actions.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
6. Hopefully it is only for self-defense
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 08:50 PM
Sep 2015

There has to be carefully balanced because South Korea would push for more if it thought Japan was re-militarizing. Then there is North Korea which is a completely different insane story.

Unfortunately the three countries (Japan, South Korea, and China) have never completely learned to play nice with each other even though they are trading partners.

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