Hillary Clinton Argues She Would Be a Political 'Outsider'
Last edited Sun Sep 20, 2015, 06:05 PM - Edit history (1)
Source: ABC News
Hillary Clinton argued today that as president she would be as much a political outsider as any other candidate given that she would be the first female president.
"I cannot imagine anyone being more of an outsider than the first woman president, I mean really, let's think about it," Clinton said during an interview on CBS News' "Face the Nation."
Clinton tweeted the remark, too.
The Democratic presidential candidate said she often meets young girls at campaign events who ask her why there has never been a woman in the White House.
Read more: http://abc7ny.com/news/hillary-clinton-argues-she-would-be-a-political-outsider-/993461/
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)pnwmom
(108,977 posts)We don't live in a country where a woman candidate has an equal entrance to avenues of power.
You gotta be kidding...she's not a member of the insider elite because she's female? That assertion in itself is chauvinistic because it assumes a women cant be in the same position as a man. Im sorry but women can also be wealthy 1% oppressive snobs. Your analysis is laughable. Yes, women most dont have the same opportunities...Hillary isnt one of those. And besides even if she did grow up poor or alienated which she didnt, she has been an insider so long it would be irrelevant. I dont fault people whose job it is to promote their candidate but try at least to be a little believable and not so absurd.
pnwmom
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She always has to work harder and smarter to achieve the same things.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)I suppose the Queen Of England is an oppressed, impoverished outsider too to you. This kind of reasoning will only hurt democrats. When youre part of the elite and waging war on poor people abroad or supporting policies against the poor at home youre only given women a bad name when you use gender inequality as the excuse. How about asking Hillary to give back the cash she takes from the gigantic private prison industry.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Hillary is not and has never been part of the old boys' club here -- home of the ultimate insiders.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)The comparison does hold up because your assertion isnt just based on a political model but gender inequality. Your assertion is of course correct for 99% of the population but not people like Hillary who was groomed early by her wealthy parents as President Of The College Republicans with friendships with criminals like David Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger. We may not be a Monarchy (yet) but we are definitely an oligarchy and her supporters will have a difficult time covering that up.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)With respect to the Presidency, all men belong to the ultimate insiders club, until some woman is elected at some point. And it hasn't happened yet.
I love it how men here are convinced that women can be insiders in a political contest they have NEVER won.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)The time for being disingenuous is over. Trying to trick people during an election or fooling them into pretending Hillary is a populist is a joke. Like Jeb Bush they both claim they are outsiders now. Lol. Lol. Lol. Lol. I'm sorry but even a secretary of Bush or Clinton would not qualify as an outsider. You need a dictionary lesson.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)She, like every other woman, has been standing outside, watching only men be President, forever.
You're the one who needs a dictionary lesson.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)I suppose using your reasoning Ben Carson, Colin Powell, all women CEOs, Bobby Jindahl, Michelle Bachman etc are all outsiders. This is a losing strategy to pursue.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Even if they aren't viewed as equal by their peers they are still insiders. They are collaborators. Your argument is stale.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Because no woman has ever been a member of the boys' club.
You're not alone in viewing women as a minority. You've inadvertently provided a good demonstration of how women are made invisible in our culture.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)I said some people make the same erroneous analogy regarding minorities. We all know women aren't a minority. But like minorities you can't claim someone is simply an insider our outsider based on gender or ethnicity. That backwards logic will annoy any reasonable person considering who to vote for.
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)WOW.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)We don't need the Clinton and Bush clans playing ping-pong with the presidency.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)DhhD
(4,695 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)She does know that people are listening to EVERY venue where she speaks. Doesn't she?
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)She's courting Sanders voters as if her track record of corporatism doesn't exist. Wow.
WOW.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)sarge43
(28,941 posts)Try the first African-American president. That went over so well with certain groups.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)Dictate Any Policy Regardless of whether one is/is not Insider/Outsider?
I don't get her point.
sorechasm
(631 posts)'Model Citizen' Hillary is not.
The Democratic presidential candidate said she often meets young girls at campaign events who ask her why there has never been a woman in the White House.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)She's inadvertently just showing them what not to do.
sorechasm
(631 posts)Bernie works fine in any Age.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Wibly
(613 posts)I can understand how Clinton might think the American people are stupid, but she should be very careful about assuming they are stupid. Even stupid folks understand she is no outsider.
To many, she is simply the most palatable of the insiders.
NonMetro
(631 posts)Seriously, I could not suppress a laugh when I read it. "Outsider"? Who is she trying to kid?
840high
(17,196 posts)moondust
(19,972 posts)if I remember correctly it wasn't too long ago that she was telling somebody that she knows how all this Presidency stuff works because she lived in the White House for eight years and saw it all up close.
Onion material.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Contortion Artist in Chief.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Innie, outie?
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)She can't tout her record and claim she's an outsider.
I can't wait for her campaign commercials.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Not even on Mars, Hillary.
Who is she trying to fool? She's the ultimate insider.
NowSam
(1,252 posts)Unbelievable. I think these establishment candidates are well displaying the contempt they have for the electorate. They think the people are just plain dumb. The rise of Bernie shows they are wrong.
Won't get fooled again.
if it comes down to Bush vs. Clinton, it will be a battle of outsiders?
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)We don't need two families playing ping-pong with the presidency.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Outsider/insider, progressive/centrist, populist/corporatist.... Need a scorecard to keep up with the daily changes. The only thing to do is to view whatever she says as untrustworthy, and look at her donor list to get a clue as to her real position.
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)whereisjustice
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Oh my god... her handlers are balancing the USS Hillary by blowing a hole in the stern.
I bet the Onion is pissed.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)Stop! Stop Hillary! You're killing me!
But you said it better!
EEO
(1,620 posts)Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)I don't vote for President because of their genitals.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)Having said that, let's recognize that Mrs. Clinton has been the subject organized misogyny from the GOP since her husband ran for President in 1992. The 1992 GOP convention was one long attack on Hillary Clinton as a working wife and mother that backfired spectacularly on them and President Bush (the only member of the Bush family ever to win a presidential election). The attacks on her were just wrong and she has gained my sympathy and respect for having to put up with it.
On the other hand, let us also recognize that a woman who is a candidate for president with the backing of Wall Street criminals is still a candidate for president with the backing of Wall Street criminals. That is as inside as it gets.
arikara
(5,562 posts)since 1992 she's been both a senator and the secretary of state.
Some outsider!
peacebird
(14,195 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)writer not writing
(41 posts)I'm Jesus!
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Ha! Welcome to DU, Jesus H. Christ.
writer not writing
(41 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)I'm a retired kamikaze pilot.
writer not writing
(41 posts)Thank you for inventing it! And the warm welcome!
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)Sarah Palin. Apparently, this is the silly cycle.
pocoloco
(3,180 posts)noun 1. an object of ridicule; the butt of a joke or the like: Her ineptness as a public official made her the laughingstock of the whole nation.
on edit....maybe she already is.
7962
(11,841 posts)We are constantly told that gender shouldnt matter. Obviously it matters when hillary can use it.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)country than the owner of a penis?
Absurdity abounds from this campaign.
7962
(11,841 posts)I may need some DU insurance for some of you guys!
Ned Flanders
(233 posts)No substance.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Jaw-dropping.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)compared to the men in this old boys' club.
And there has never been a single woman President of the United States, though there are dozens of female Presidents and prime ministers around the world.
She is right. In our political system, and for the office of President, any woman is an outsider.
branford
(4,462 posts)Hillary Clinton served as Congressional legal counsel after law school at Yale before she even married Bill. The National Law Journal twice listed her as one of the hundred most influential lawyers in America, and she on the board of directors of Wal-Mart, among other corporations. She was a politically active First Lady from 1993-2001, Senator from New York from 2000-2008, and the Secretary of State from 2009-2014.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton
Hillary Clinton is the very definition of Washington, D.C. political insider, and her gender cannot erase her history, contacts and culture.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)from even having the vote in the first place;and now lacks equal representation in Congress and has never had an individual in the office of President.
Until some woman has been President no woman can ever be termed an insider.
secondvariety
(1,245 posts)be the first President named Hillary for whatever that's worth.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)sarge43
(28,941 posts)Hills, we have women CEOs, generals, admirals, astronauts, associate SC justices, and many others who have fought much harder than you have to get to where they're at. You wouldn't be the first to put a hole in the glass ceiling.
Your gender alone does not qualify you for the presidency. What else ya got? We're waiting.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)if she believes it somehow will help her get elected.
Trustworthy and Honest.... NOPE
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Seems to be her brand of intellect.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Anything to draw attention away from this ludicrous assertion.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Ms. Insider with all of the money and endorsements and polls and little charts has declared herself an outsider?
That is pathetic.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)I'm starting to think she is just a flat out liar
Faux pas
(14,668 posts)been smoking? Or, better yet, maybe she should start smoking something.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Im not even kidding, Im starting to worry about her health. The shit she says...oh my dog, if she isnt ill (or has some profound fatigue) its clear shell say anything!
Good lord!
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)She is just following instructions to show her humor.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)He has been in the government for decades. He is not an outsider he is the epitome of "same-old same-old."
sarge43
(28,941 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)In fact Sanders has been in Washington as a Congressman and Senator longer than she has.So you Sanders supporters are being hypricritical
sarge43
(28,941 posts)She said her gender made her an outsider. You know, a label she was tagged with since birth. Like being Jewish. If either of your parents were Jewish, you are Jew by Talmud law whether or not you practice.
Being an outsider because an individual is female would be news to women congress critters, senators, associate justices, and all the women flag officers prowling the Pentagon's hall ways including the vice CNO, US Navy.
We aren't outsiders anymore. We still have things to accomplished, but the ceiling is getting very thin and it has lots of holes in it.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)bribes. Hence, outsider. Get back to me, Hillary when you only have 400,000 net worth
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)which is precisely why he IS the outsider ... oh and how the DNC insiders rigged the debates
for their favorite fellow insider, Hillary Clinton.
uberblonde
(1,215 posts)Why do you suppose they're trying to get Joe Biden to run? Because she's more of an insider than he is? Please.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)there are so many gaping holes in Team Clinton's case for Hillary,
anyone who reads -- even lightly or occasionally -- the news can
see the hypocrisy writ BIG, and are not buying it.
Sure, these tawdry distortions may help keep the faithful faithful, for
awhile; but they certainly are not very convincing to anyone with
half a brain,
Ned Flanders
(233 posts)Are you serious, or just trolling us BS supporters?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)pampango
(24,692 posts)I assume. We want someone who knows how government works and will shape it consistent with their and our views. Republicans tend to just want anyone who will shut the government down. Don't need an 'insider' for that.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)What's it been...30 YEARS plus of having "Clinton" in front of us...
She's got to be kidding!
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)She dodged sniper fire when she was First Lady. She might be suffering from PTSD.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Zorro
(15,740 posts)She spoke quite intelligently and articulately on several topics.
She would make an outstanding President.
branford
(4,462 posts)both from within and outside the Democratic Party. What makes Hillary Clinton the best (or even better) candidate for president than anyone else?
More importantly, certain of her statements, including that she's a "political outsider," no less just because she's a woman, are so ludicrous, crass, and blatantly opportunistic, that to some, actually and quite reasonably justify voting against her in the primary and presidential election.
Zorro
(15,740 posts)Spoken like a true Republican. They have the same opinion.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Also spoken like a true Republican...
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)while he was talking about Salvador Allende
branford
(4,462 posts)and repeatedly insults the intelligence of the American people, regardless of political affiliation, she is clearly no different from any of her Republican rivals and arguably doesn't deserve the nomination, and yes, the presidency. I'm a lifelong and loyal Democrat. I'm not an idiot or sycophant.
The Democratic candidates in both the primary and general election have to earn my vote, they are not entitled to it, even if it's Hillary Clinton.
Now, do you actually contend that her statement that she's a "political outsider," particularly since she's a woman, is anything but comically absurd, transparently opportunistic, and insulting to voters?
Further, don't you require more from our presidential nominee than simply speaking "intelligently and articulately on several topics," a bar so incredibly low that even most Republican candidates easily meet or exceed it.
Zorro
(15,740 posts)Otherwise you wouldn't be so quick on the trigger to declare she "repeatedly insults the intelligence of the American people."
If you can't tell the difference between Hillary Clinton and the Republican candidates for President of the United States -- and you consider that "even most Republican candidates easily meet or exceed" the bar of speaking intelligently on several topics -- then I question your assertion that you aren't an idiot.
branford
(4,462 posts)Are you actually defending Hillary's position she's a "political outsider," particularly since she's a woman?
Further, are you really suggesting that she has earned my or anyone else's vote because "she spoke quite intelligently and articulately on several topics?" I assure you that many other Democrats easily meet this threshold and actually are political outsiders (to the extent that's really a positive trait).
You can accuse me or anyone else of being a Republican (or idiot!) because we're not too impressed with Hillary Clinton or her campaign, but all you'll manage to accomplish is to insult other Democrats, and if she receives the nomination, ensuring that many of us just might stay home on election day (as many Democrats in 2012 and 2014). I and others will not stand for being insulted or taken for granted by any candidate.
Lastly, no matter how much I may disagree with virtually all Republicans on every important issue, I will not make the lazy mistake of believing them stupid or inarticulate. They most certainly are not, and that's precisely why they are so dangerous. When we underestimate them, we often lose. Just look at the current electoral map where Republicans control the Senate, have their largest majority in generations in the House, and control a clear majority of statehouses and goverorships. Trivializing Republicans' intellect and political skill will definitely not reverse this unfortunate situation.
Zorro
(15,740 posts)She made that remark as she described an encounter with a little girl presenting her with a picture of all previous (male) Presidents, and said that yes, she could be considered an "outsider" in this group because of her gender. The MSM by this article presented it otherwise, which has created the ill-informed reactions in this thread. This is a Republican meme, finding fault in extreme interpretations of what was expressly said.
I find her extremely well-qualified to run for the office, as i do Bernie Sanders. I think they both are raising important issues, but I won't denigrate one Democratic candidate's positions over another's. I do think that Clinton has much more name recognition than Sanders, along with the financial backing it takes to win the election -- like it or not, that is the unfortunate state of this country.
What I find particularly obnoxious, though, is declarations that one will sit out an election because their preferred candidate did not get the party's nomination; that is a recipe for a Republican win and what led to the Bush presidency. (Thanks for nothing, Nader voters.)
branford
(4,462 posts)She's extremely calculating, which is both a benefit and liability on the campaign trail. When she's actually unscripted, it doesn't always go very well.
The "outsider" remark feels very similar to her "dead broke" comments, and I expect it to play as well with both Democrats and the general public.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/jun/10/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-says-she-and-bill-were-dead-broke/
Moreover, to repeat, a candidate has to earn my vote, and Clinton has not yet done so. More importantly, her gender doesn't make her any more or less qualified to be president.
We are also in the early stages of a primary election, and Hillary Clinton will be rightly (and sometime quite aggressively) compared and contrasted to other Democratic primary (and potential primary) candidates such as Sanders, O'Malley, and my current preference if he runs, Biden. Politics is hard ball, Clinton knows the rules and is more than capable of playing, and tough competition does not constitute "denigration."
Simply, as the many threads and posts on DU demonstrate, Clinton badly needs to improve her campaign if she wants to energize Democrats to come and and vote, the key component to winning the primary and election.
Throd
(7,208 posts)Zorro
(15,740 posts)When were you elected to the Senate? How about your term as Secretary of State?
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)She'll do it while bombing crap outta those gee-hadists in the middle east, nuking Pootie Poot Putin and laying the smack down on those Irainean scumbags - and she'll be riding a horse named "Freedom" with one hand tied behind her back. Yeehaw!
There's some people, I don't have to ask who their most favorite of all candidates is.
Zorro
(15,740 posts)Oh, I forgot. You're not a US citizen, are you?
Sorry.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)What troubles me, however, is that this growing list of appalling missteps may be completely wiped away (What? You mean with a cloth?) so by the time of her coronation, ardent supporters will profess to have absolutely no recollection of them.
It reminds me a little of a disgraced former apparatchik in Stalinist Russia who is completely expunged from the official history.
Throd
(7,208 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)HOWEVER, I am really appalled at what IMHO are unforced errors. She is not a novice in politics. More to the point she ran for president once already and apparently hasn't learned a damn thing from the first failed campaign. I really do not understand it. Whatever else negative could be said about her she is not stupid. And yet.....
Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)I think her biggest problem is she's sitting atop so much money she just throws it at her problems via hiring this or that consultant who comes up with this type of nonsense. That, and her natural political instincts are not as sharp as her husband's or Obama's. No crime in that, but you need to have really talented people around you to make up for your shortcomings.
As far as being an outsider, I don't know if there is any person in politics who is less of an outsider than Hillary.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Maybe not as bad, but still they are unforced errors. In this instance, she can't claim she was misquoted because she tweeted the same thing.
She is divisive and that is one of the things that continues to drive people away from supporting her (her stances on the issues are another reason, but that is for another thread).
jimlup
(7,968 posts)but Hillary is an incredibly weak candidate. If she obtains the nomination I think she might manage to lose the general. She's underwelming.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)If you're rich enough, you can purchase the truth. And now, thanks to the wonders of Citizens United, you can probably buy the White House, too.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)things are weird in this countries politics right now. People are looking for an alternative. Maybe not enough people. Time will tell.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)The idealistic Rufus truly hopes that democracy will prevail.
antigop
(12,778 posts)OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)It's not what you've got between your legs, it's what you've got between your ears that counts.
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Now if you'll excuse me, I have more spontaneity to plan.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)Hopefully voters aren't that stupid.
jkbRN
(850 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)it is pathetic and demeaning to half the population.
she doesn't want women to be treated differently because of their gender, but she continually and shamelessly touts gender as a reason to vote for her. Double standard much?
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,891 posts)Its right up there with insisting that of course the voters trust her. The overwhelming need to be believable is almost more than I can take. She would do much better simply saying what she is actually has done than making empty sounding remarks like this one. She has a point but it doesn't apply in this case.
This is almost as bad as the Conservative Christians crying how they are victims while they deny everyone else's right to personal belief.
I won't be buying any used cars from her campaign.
Throd
(7,208 posts)DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)H: Lord love me! Such conjecturing could drive a woman insane
And I'm the one to set this gossip quite to rest
The Outsider is me!
Indeed! And I'm the Queen of Spain!
H: (What?)
The Outsider is nothing but a nosy pest.
No, the vicar says the Outsider's a bishop in disguise.
Who gives absolution night and day.
Stuff and nonsense, don't you know?
She's a maharajah from Bombay.
They say she has enormous feet.
And that she tends to overeat.
I've heard she's fussy with her food.
And eats her breakfast in the nude.
Is she robust? Or very pale?
At least we know she's female!
Who is the Political Outsider?
Me sister says her breath is sweeter than an Irish rose,
I'm sure I'd fall in love if she would cross my path!
Ah, yes, if you could overlook the warts upon her nose.
And possibly persuade her she should take a bath.
H: (Ha!)
Rumour has it she's Castillian.
She's a reckless buccaneer.
And I hear she carries several whips.
H: (Several...wh-whips?)
She's a sultan from Kabul
with women at her fingertips.
They say she's nearly eight feet tall.
And yet quite graceful...
Folderal! I'm told she waddles when she walks.
And often twitches when she talks.
Is she a dolt? She's very deep!
Oh, DC's losing sleep!
Who is the Political Outsider?
The butcher in the village claims he saw the woman last week...
H: (Where?)
...Galloping her camel cross the moor.
She's been seen
Wearing full Blakeney green.
H: I've told you all before...
The lady's me!
It's George the Third!
Perhaps a convict run amok.
This Outsider could be most any sod.
H: (How dare you!)
Bite your tongue, she is dashing and young!
The Outsider's a god!
And she'll find me, and she'll wake me, and she'll take me...
Down on a haystack!
She'll face me...
Then at last you could tell
If she's a hero or a monk, a fiddling Nero or a drunk.
Who is the Political Outsider?
I'm sure she's flatulant and crass.
Here, here, the woman's a horse's ass!
No, no, she's neighbourly and kind.
But quite erotically inclined.
H: (Oh!)
Whatever guise she may employ,
She's DC's pride and joy!
This plucky non-pareil...
H: This lucky, bloody swell...
Who is the Political Outsider?
Liberties taken with Who is the Scarlet Pimpernel?
Vinca
(50,267 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)I am stunned to see Hillary actually said that she is an "outsider" because she is a woman...
and that is a good reason to vote for her.
I've actually seen many posts on DU that agree.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
senz
(11,945 posts)Better to laugh, I think.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Poor Onion and Borowitz. They really cannot compete with reality.
Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)Agony
(2,605 posts)she does not belong anywhere near the presidency.
OakCliffDem
(1,274 posts)Bernie has many powerful friends in the Federal Government, and he has accumulated a vast store of political capitol.
That makes Bernie the superior choice for President.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)cpompilo
(323 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Yep - just one of us little people
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)claim she never heard of the Beltway.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Damn, I hate the idiot treatment.
branford
(4,462 posts)I believe the outsider remark will likely play as well as the broke comment with the general public, and under no circumstances, be good for our Party or Clinton herself.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)With regard to that position, every woman is an outsider.
hatrack
(59,584 posts)What pathetic horseshit.
Short of squeezing into a hydrogen nucleus, she couldn't possibly be more "inside".
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Clinton and her gullible followers are entering the absurdity of the twilight zone.
SylviaD
(721 posts)I am feeling very down reading DU lately.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)We trust Hillary to say she is one of us, and govern for the 1%
hatrack
(59,584 posts)Because the alternative, in light of the apparent outbreak of St. Anthony's Fire among the GOP candidates, does not bear even thinking about.
However, when she says something as patently absurd as this, I'm going to call her on it.
Sec. Clinton is a Beltway "outsider" about as much as Walt Disney would be an "outsider" in Tomorrowland.
Reter
(2,188 posts)What a joke she is.
Old Union Guy
(738 posts)To those who say otherwise, your loyalty is touching.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)of the United States.
And Congress includes only 103 women out of 535 members of the House and Senate.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)endorsements from the drones ... remember how EVERYONE is endorsing her? Or is that erased too? Insiders get endorsed, money, 'inevitability' all of it. She is inside out she's so inside. Her gender makes her a minority in her field, not an outsider. Big dif.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)has ever been enough of an insider to get elected President so far, including her.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Her wallet. That's key one. That she has zillionaires giving her millions that's key 2. That she is the inevitable candidate they say is key 3. I could do this all night.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)She is the most entrenched and politically well connected candidate running. Her comment is offensive.
longship
(40,416 posts)Okay! Let's fire up the iNews 5000 and see what we get:
Hillary Clinton Argues She Would Be a Political 'Outsider'
Spring, sprong, bing, bong, boinggggg, ding!
Translation: Inside is Outside, Hillary now resides within her own Klein Bottle.
area51
(11,907 posts)but shouldn't this be in GDP?
morningfog
(18,115 posts)And that comment is incredibly sexist and self defeating. God, how obnoxious.
Javaman
(62,521 posts)Bradical79
(4,490 posts)I suppose you have to try because every other candidate under the sun is going to paint themselves as an "outsider" too when Congress has such a low approval rating, but it's still laughable.
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)librechik
(30,674 posts)vagina.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)so she does have a point.
TipTok
(2,474 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)Washington and Wall Street are in her blood.
By all means, let's talk about the opposition she faces because she's a woman, or because she's a Clinton...but there's no realistic way to paint her as the most outside of outsiders ever. NThat's just stupid.