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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:42 PM Sep 2015

Hillary Clinton Argues She Would Be a Political 'Outsider'

Last edited Sun Sep 20, 2015, 06:05 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: ABC News

Hillary Clinton argued today that as president she would be as much a political outsider as any other candidate given that she would be the first female president.

"I cannot imagine anyone being more of an outsider than the first woman president, I mean really, let's think about it," Clinton said during an interview on CBS News' "Face the Nation."

Clinton tweeted the remark, too.

The Democratic presidential candidate said she often meets young girls at campaign events who ask her why there has never been a woman in the White House.



Read more: http://abc7ny.com/news/hillary-clinton-argues-she-would-be-a-political-outsider-/993461/

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Hillary Clinton Argues She Would Be a Political 'Outsider' (Original Post) LiberalElite Sep 2015 OP
One Can Only Hope That The Voters Are Not So Gullible cantbeserious Sep 2015 #1
Sadly many are Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #28
The gullible person is the one who doesn't see that she's right. pnwmom Sep 2015 #122
lol billhicks76 Sep 2015 #124
A woman in this country is never in the same position as a man, no matter how high she has risen. pnwmom Sep 2015 #128
Has Nothing To Do With Her Being An Insider billhicks76 Sep 2015 #130
We don't have a monarchy, so the comparison fails. pnwmom Sep 2015 #132
Youre Dead Wrong billhicks76 Sep 2015 #158
Not one single woman, no matter how wealthy, powerful, or influential, has ever won the Presidency. pnwmom Sep 2015 #159
She's An Insider billhicks76 Sep 2015 #160
The opposite of an insider is an outsider, not a populist. pnwmom Sep 2015 #162
If Gender Is The Only Lens From Which You Can See Through billhicks76 Sep 2015 #163
Are you saying Ben Carson, Colin Powell, and Bobby Jindal are women? That's news to me. n/t pnwmom Sep 2015 #164
I'm Saying Some People Think A Minority Can't Be An Insider billhicks76 Sep 2015 #178
Women are NOT a minority -- they comprise the majority, and yet no woman has ever been President. pnwmom Sep 2015 #182
Can You Read? billhicks76 Sep 2015 #186
Ignore her record, vote for her chromosomes? SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #167
Clintonites Circular Logic Will Doom Them billhicks76 Sep 2015 #180
KaBOOM. eom SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #183
No royal families. SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #165
Amen billhicks76 Sep 2015 #179
She's ridiculous. AzDar Sep 2015 #2
She should give back the remaining Insider campaign money since she is an outsider. n/t DhhD Sep 2015 #53
lol, you're right. Hillary will be an outsider alright when the primary is over. Bernie will see to that! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #155
ok, now this is just getting sad. magical thyme Sep 2015 #3
I don't know what to say. Baitball Blogger Sep 2015 #23
You'd think so. SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #166
great gif! nashville_brook Sep 2015 #24
"....more of an outsider than the first woman president ..." sarge43 Sep 2015 #4
Ummm, Since When does Gender fredamae Sep 2015 #5
Sadly Hillary is ruining those young women's dreams by running a horrible campaign sorechasm Sep 2015 #45
Well I wouldn't go that far - LiberalElite Sep 2015 #95
Very true: the age of YouTube makes 'truth stretching' obsolete. sorechasm Sep 2015 #121
this is as tone deaf as her bosnian sniper saga roguevalley Sep 2015 #143
Careful Hillary Wibly Sep 2015 #6
I'm With You! NonMetro Sep 2015 #12
Outsider? My ass. I'm still laughing. 840high Sep 2015 #32
And yet... moondust Sep 2015 #7
She's the inside-outer. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #10
Why am I thinking of a belly button? ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2015 #112
Excellent point! SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #168
Snort bigwillq Sep 2015 #8
Her and Bush. Both outsiders. LOL. NowSam Sep 2015 #9
exactly Enrique Sep 2015 #51
No more Clintons. No more Bushes. SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #169
yup yup, Bernie will see to that! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #140
hopefully, she will be an outsider when Bernie enters the white house as an insider roguevalley Sep 2015 #144
Yes, haha, good one. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #149
The weathervane ball bearings are getting a workout. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #11
She has big oil keeping those weathervane bearings lubricated. And a pipeline called Keystone. whereisjustice Sep 2015 #16
DNC Releases Hillary 2015, Service Pack 3. Code name, "Outsider". Reviews are in... whereisjustice Sep 2015 #13
that was pee in your pants funny!! nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #75
I was thinking MissDeeds Sep 2015 #89
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA EEO Sep 2015 #14
Sadly, Hillary Liberalagogo Sep 2015 #15
Excuse me, but . . . . Jack Rabbit Sep 2015 #17
She made it through the attacks with flying colours arikara Sep 2015 #55
ROFLMAO! Seriously? peacebird Sep 2015 #18
And I'm Spartacus. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #19
Ha! Got you beat! writer not writing Sep 2015 #27
And I as my second job am The Lord God Almighty. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #31
Thank you, Dad! writer not writing Sep 2015 #38
Welcome to DU Jack Rabbit Sep 2015 #56
Mitchum is the only deoderant I use writer not writing Sep 2015 #133
We have a winner! SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #175
I'M Spartacus! eom SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #171
She is starting to sound like Geronimoe Sep 2015 #20
I argue she would be a laughingstock! pocoloco Sep 2015 #21
so we're not supposed to look at her being a woman unless its to her advantage? 7962 Sep 2015 #22
I am more qualified to be president because I have a penis. Really. Who is more qualified to lead a Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #25
Thank God I put down my drink before I read your response! But it was close. 7962 Sep 2015 #101
It's the only card she has to play. Ned Flanders Sep 2015 #58
If she actually believes this, she's delusional. TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #26
There are only 103 women in Congress, out of 535. All of them are outsiders pnwmom Sep 2015 #137
No, being a woman in a position of power in DC makes her a minority, not an outsider. branford Sep 2015 #141
She is a member of the MAJORITY, a majority that had been prevented by a minority pnwmom Sep 2015 #151
She'd also secondvariety Sep 2015 #29
"...and I'm an outsider, and I'm hispanic, and I only have one leg..." nashville_brook Sep 2015 #30
ROFLMAO! SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #170
I just had to K/R - gave me a huge laugh. 840high Sep 2015 #33
One other thought sarge43 Sep 2015 #34
It is crystal clear she will say ANYTHING... Cosmic Kitten Sep 2015 #35
Obviously one of her high priced polling services told her this would be popular. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #36
Likely an angle of the DNC Chair! Plucketeer Sep 2015 #103
Uh-oh! Looks like it may be time to send out some more of those household products gift boxes!! RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #37
OMG. That is pathetic. That's all I can really say. djean111 Sep 2015 #39
It is pathetic. Cosmic Kitten Sep 2015 #42
What's she Faux pas Sep 2015 #40
WTF? Seriously, is she okay? dorkzilla Sep 2015 #41
All of you people misunderstand her here. sadoldgirl Sep 2015 #43
Another "spontaneous" moment from the inevitable outsider? ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2015 #52
And yet, BS supporters applaud when Bernie says he is an outsider Evergreen Emerald Sep 2015 #44
When Sanders claims he's an outsider because he's Jewish, get back to us. n/t sarge43 Sep 2015 #49
ba bam! restorefreedom Sep 2015 #78
That's going to leave a mark, lol Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #79
To be fair she's no more of an outsider than Sanders bigdarryl Sep 2015 #90
She didn't say that length of gov't service determines "outsider". sarge43 Sep 2015 #96
bernie is an outsider. He doesn't hang with shills and corporatists and he doesn't take their roguevalley Sep 2015 #145
Hillaryites LOVE to point out how few Establishment congress critters have endorsed Bernie ... 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #60
The same 'insider' they're trying to sandbag? uberblonde Sep 2015 #70
Great point. hadn't thought of that 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #77
And for decades he has expressed the same contrary views, despite their unpopularity Ned Flanders Sep 2015 #65
So, you drew the short straw? (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #71
bwahaha. you clintonites want it every which way. too funny, green cali Sep 2015 #113
But not because of his penis. morningfog Sep 2015 #153
We don't really have 'outsider' candidates like repubs. Different views on the role of government pampango Sep 2015 #46
ROFLMAO!!!!!! SoapBox Sep 2015 #47
Give Hillary a break Geronimoe Sep 2015 #48
She's still reeling from the devestating effects of those lean years when she was "dead broke." n/t RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #59
I actually listened to her today Zorro Sep 2015 #50
There are a lot of people who can speak "intelligently and articulately on several topics," branford Sep 2015 #62
"...quite reasonably justify voting against her in the...presidential election"? Zorro Sep 2015 #97
"We came, we saw, he died." Maedhros Sep 2015 #104
Probably came straight off the lips of Henry Kissinger Art_from_Ark Sep 2015 #184
If her campaign continues to consist of such transparent opportunism branford Sep 2015 #105
Apparently you didn't bother watching the actual broadcast Zorro Sep 2015 #109
Sigh..., let's try this again... branford Sep 2015 #111
Context is everything Zorro Sep 2015 #116
Hillary Clinton is anything but spontaneous. branford Sep 2015 #120
I can do that too. Vote for me! Throd Sep 2015 #68
Tell us about your political experience and accomplishments please Zorro Sep 2015 #98
tell us yours, especially the part where you were first lady roguevalley Sep 2015 #147
She'll blow out those commies in Venezuela, just like she did in Honduras. delrem Sep 2015 #74
And who will you be voting for in the election? Zorro Sep 2015 #99
Am I the only one who isn't sure whether to laugh or to cry? RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #54
For me, it's laugh or puke. Throd Sep 2015 #86
Ya know, I'm not a Hillary fan LiberalElite Sep 2015 #94
A lot of very smart people do & say stupid things... Yurovsky Sep 2015 #110
She is making some of the same mistakes she did in 2008 davidpdx Sep 2015 #123
I'm sorry to say ... jimlup Sep 2015 #57
There's millions of dollars that says you're wrong RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #64
True enough but we'll see jimlup Sep 2015 #127
Never mind him. That's just the cynical Rufus RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #129
oh, dear lord. nt antigop Sep 2015 #61
By this reasoning, Fiorina and Palin were just as qualified. OnlinePoker Sep 2015 #63
ZING! n/t SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #172
"and unlike the other outsiders, I have the beltway connections and knowledge to make DC work!" Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #66
This Is just ridculas Robbins Sep 2015 #67
Shows how out of sync she is with voters jkbRN Sep 2015 #69
So is this a campaign, or is it a training manual on what not to do in a campaign? (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #72
not only is this hilarious restorefreedom Sep 2015 #73
Snort. CharlotteVale Sep 2015 #76
Oh, my side! Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #80
lol. n/t. Calista241 Sep 2015 #81
Someone call the Irony Squad!!!!! Ford_Prefect Sep 2015 #82
She makes more for one speech than most people make in a year. Some outsider. Throd Sep 2015 #83
Indeed, and I'm the queen of Spain. DRoseDARs Sep 2015 #84
That is an absolutely ridiculous remark. Vinca Sep 2015 #85
I fully expected this to be an "Onion" or "Borowitz" piece. bvar22 Sep 2015 #87
It's perfect Borowitz. Except it's Hillary. senz Sep 2015 #107
Without any intention of making a joke. ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2015 #114
How many times can she play the gender card between now and Super Tuesday? Indepatriot Sep 2015 #88
Why shouldn't she play the gender card Carly is playing it up bigdarryl Sep 2015 #91
Now there's a winning game plan....."why not, Carly's doing it"..... Indepatriot Sep 2015 #117
Hillary has negligible leadership acumen Agony Sep 2015 #92
I am so glad that Bernie Sanders is a Political 'Insider' OakCliffDem Sep 2015 #93
. SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #100
Hillary at her best - playing gender politics. cpompilo Sep 2015 #102
First Lady; Senator; Secretary of State? left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #106
Next she'll LiberalElite Sep 2015 #108
Or she's merely a tourist passing thru DC sarge43 Sep 2015 #119
The "political outsider" remark is comparable to her contention that she and Bill were "dead broke." branford Sep 2015 #115
When in all of history has any woman ever been elected President of the U.S.? pnwmom Sep 2015 #139
Oh fucking STOP IT! hatrack Sep 2015 #118
She Is Poor Too Right...Lol billhicks76 Sep 2015 #125
Wow, no love for Hillary at all... SylviaD Sep 2015 #126
No love of Hillary. We love the platform Bernie is touting, & we trust him to do his best peacebird Sep 2015 #131
For the record, in the general, if she's the nominee, I will absolutely vote for her . . . hatrack Sep 2015 #134
There's never been a bigger political insider in the last 35 years Reter Sep 2015 #135
She is the ultimate insider, and everybody here knows it. Old Union Guy Sep 2015 #136
Any woman is an outsider, since NO woman in history has ever been elected President pnwmom Sep 2015 #138
she is a part of a minority. being inside means having access to zillions, roguevalley Sep 2015 #148
No, she is part of a MAJORITY yet no member of that MAJORITY pnwmom Sep 2015 #150
I want a woman there but not her. she is an insider. check roguevalley Sep 2015 #156
That does not a political outsider make. morningfog Sep 2015 #154
Let's feed this headline to our iNews 5000 WiFi Headline translator. longship Sep 2015 #142
Interesting, area51 Sep 2015 #146
What a joke. She has no shame and it's insulting to us. morningfog Sep 2015 #152
she continues her "yeah, me too!" campaign, I see. nt Javaman Sep 2015 #157
I always laugh when a wealthy powerful politician does this. Bradical79 Sep 2015 #161
An " outsider"????? mylye2222 Sep 2015 #173
yes, absolutely. After all librechik Sep 2015 #174
This on is registering pretty high nichomachus Sep 2015 #176
Well she has spent less time in elected office than Bernie Sanders... Historic NY Sep 2015 #177
She has a really really low opinion of the electorate.... TipTok Sep 2015 #181
Except for the fact that she's a political 'insider'. Orsino Sep 2015 #185

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
122. The gullible person is the one who doesn't see that she's right.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 09:34 PM
Sep 2015

We don't live in a country where a woman candidate has an equal entrance to avenues of power.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
124. lol
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 09:43 PM
Sep 2015

You gotta be kidding...she's not a member of the insider elite because she's female? That assertion in itself is chauvinistic because it assumes a women cant be in the same position as a man. Im sorry but women can also be wealthy 1% oppressive snobs. Your analysis is laughable. Yes, women most dont have the same opportunities...Hillary isnt one of those. And besides even if she did grow up poor or alienated which she didnt, she has been an insider so long it would be irrelevant. I dont fault people whose job it is to promote their candidate but try at least to be a little believable and not so absurd.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
128. A woman in this country is never in the same position as a man, no matter how high she has risen.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 09:59 PM
Sep 2015

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She always has to work harder and smarter to achieve the same things.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
130. Has Nothing To Do With Her Being An Insider
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:09 PM
Sep 2015

I suppose the Queen Of England is an oppressed, impoverished outsider too to you. This kind of reasoning will only hurt democrats. When youre part of the elite and waging war on poor people abroad or supporting policies against the poor at home youre only given women a bad name when you use gender inequality as the excuse. How about asking Hillary to give back the cash she takes from the gigantic private prison industry.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
132. We don't have a monarchy, so the comparison fails.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:42 PM
Sep 2015

Hillary is not and has never been part of the old boys' club here -- home of the ultimate insiders.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
158. Youre Dead Wrong
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:18 AM
Sep 2015

The comparison does hold up because your assertion isnt just based on a political model but gender inequality. Your assertion is of course correct for 99% of the population but not people like Hillary who was groomed early by her wealthy parents as President Of The College Republicans with friendships with criminals like David Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger. We may not be a Monarchy (yet) but we are definitely an oligarchy and her supporters will have a difficult time covering that up.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
159. Not one single woman, no matter how wealthy, powerful, or influential, has ever won the Presidency.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:43 AM
Sep 2015

With respect to the Presidency, all men belong to the ultimate insiders club, until some woman is elected at some point. And it hasn't happened yet.

I love it how men here are convinced that women can be insiders in a political contest they have NEVER won.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
160. She's An Insider
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:21 AM
Sep 2015

The time for being disingenuous is over. Trying to trick people during an election or fooling them into pretending Hillary is a populist is a joke. Like Jeb Bush they both claim they are outsiders now. Lol. Lol. Lol. Lol. I'm sorry but even a secretary of Bush or Clinton would not qualify as an outsider. You need a dictionary lesson.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
162. The opposite of an insider is an outsider, not a populist.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:14 PM
Sep 2015

She, like every other woman, has been standing outside, watching only men be President, forever.

You're the one who needs a dictionary lesson.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
163. If Gender Is The Only Lens From Which You Can See Through
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:06 PM
Sep 2015

I suppose using your reasoning Ben Carson, Colin Powell, all women CEOs, Bobby Jindahl, Michelle Bachman etc are all outsiders. This is a losing strategy to pursue.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
178. I'm Saying Some People Think A Minority Can't Be An Insider
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 12:15 AM
Sep 2015

Even if they aren't viewed as equal by their peers they are still insiders. They are collaborators. Your argument is stale.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
182. Women are NOT a minority -- they comprise the majority, and yet no woman has ever been President.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 01:07 AM
Sep 2015

Because no woman has ever been a member of the boys' club.

You're not alone in viewing women as a minority. You've inadvertently provided a good demonstration of how women are made invisible in our culture.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
186. Can You Read?
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:51 PM
Sep 2015

I said some people make the same erroneous analogy regarding minorities. We all know women aren't a minority. But like minorities you can't claim someone is simply an insider our outsider based on gender or ethnicity. That backwards logic will annoy any reasonable person considering who to vote for.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
155. lol, you're right. Hillary will be an outsider alright when the primary is over. Bernie will see to that!
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 07:59 AM
Sep 2015

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
23. I don't know what to say.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:09 PM
Sep 2015

She does know that people are listening to EVERY venue where she speaks. Doesn't she?

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
166. You'd think so.
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 04:11 AM
Sep 2015

She's courting Sanders voters as if her track record of corporatism doesn't exist. Wow.

WOW.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
4. "....more of an outsider than the first woman president ..."
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:47 PM
Sep 2015

Try the first African-American president. That went over so well with certain groups.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
5. Ummm, Since When does Gender
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:49 PM
Sep 2015

Dictate Any Policy Regardless of whether one is/is not Insider/Outsider?
I don't get her point.

sorechasm

(631 posts)
45. Sadly Hillary is ruining those young women's dreams by running a horrible campaign
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:32 PM
Sep 2015

'Model Citizen' Hillary is not.

The Democratic presidential candidate said she often meets young girls at campaign events who ask her why there has never been a woman in the White House.

Wibly

(613 posts)
6. Careful Hillary
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:49 PM
Sep 2015

I can understand how Clinton might think the American people are stupid, but she should be very careful about assuming they are stupid. Even stupid folks understand she is no outsider.
To many, she is simply the most palatable of the insiders.

NonMetro

(631 posts)
12. I'm With You!
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:54 PM
Sep 2015

Seriously, I could not suppress a laugh when I read it. "Outsider"? Who is she trying to kid?

moondust

(19,972 posts)
7. And yet...
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:50 PM
Sep 2015

if I remember correctly it wasn't too long ago that she was telling somebody that she knows how all this Presidency stuff works because she lived in the White House for eight years and saw it all up close.

Onion material.

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
168. Excellent point!
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 04:17 AM
Sep 2015

She can't tout her record and claim she's an outsider.

I can't wait for her campaign commercials.

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
9. Her and Bush. Both outsiders. LOL.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:52 PM
Sep 2015

Unbelievable. I think these establishment candidates are well displaying the contempt they have for the electorate. They think the people are just plain dumb. The rise of Bernie shows they are wrong.

Won't get fooled again.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
11. The weathervane ball bearings are getting a workout.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:53 PM
Sep 2015

Outsider/insider, progressive/centrist, populist/corporatist.... Need a scorecard to keep up with the daily changes. The only thing to do is to view whatever she says as untrustworthy, and look at her donor list to get a clue as to her real position.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
13. DNC Releases Hillary 2015, Service Pack 3. Code name, "Outsider". Reviews are in...
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:54 PM
Sep 2015

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Oh my god... her handlers are balancing the USS Hillary by blowing a hole in the stern.

I bet the Onion is pissed.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
17. Excuse me, but . . . .
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:01 PM
Sep 2015


Having said that, let's recognize that Mrs. Clinton has been the subject organized misogyny from the GOP since her husband ran for President in 1992. The 1992 GOP convention was one long attack on Hillary Clinton as a working wife and mother that backfired spectacularly on them and President Bush (the only member of the Bush family ever to win a presidential election). The attacks on her were just wrong and she has gained my sympathy and respect for having to put up with it.

On the other hand, let us also recognize that a woman who is a candidate for president with the backing of Wall Street criminals is still a candidate for president with the backing of Wall Street criminals. That is as inside as it gets.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
55. She made it through the attacks with flying colours
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:49 PM
Sep 2015

since 1992 she's been both a senator and the secretary of state.

Some outsider!

 

pocoloco

(3,180 posts)
21. I argue she would be a laughingstock!
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:04 PM
Sep 2015

noun 1. an object of ridicule; the butt of a joke or the like: Her ineptness as a public official made her the laughingstock of the whole nation.



on edit....maybe she already is.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
22. so we're not supposed to look at her being a woman unless its to her advantage?
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:04 PM
Sep 2015

We are constantly told that gender shouldnt matter. Obviously it matters when hillary can use it.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
25. I am more qualified to be president because I have a penis. Really. Who is more qualified to lead a
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:11 PM
Sep 2015

country than the owner of a penis?

Absurdity abounds from this campaign.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
101. Thank God I put down my drink before I read your response! But it was close.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 06:59 PM
Sep 2015

I may need some DU insurance for some of you guys!

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
137. There are only 103 women in Congress, out of 535. All of them are outsiders
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 12:46 AM
Sep 2015

compared to the men in this old boys' club.

And there has never been a single woman President of the United States, though there are dozens of female Presidents and prime ministers around the world.

She is right. In our political system, and for the office of President, any woman is an outsider.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
141. No, being a woman in a position of power in DC makes her a minority, not an outsider.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:43 AM
Sep 2015

Hillary Clinton served as Congressional legal counsel after law school at Yale before she even married Bill. The National Law Journal twice listed her as one of the hundred most influential lawyers in America, and she on the board of directors of Wal-Mart, among other corporations. She was a politically active First Lady from 1993-2001, Senator from New York from 2000-2008, and the Secretary of State from 2009-2014.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

Hillary Clinton is the very definition of Washington, D.C. political insider, and her gender cannot erase her history, contacts and culture.


pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
151. She is a member of the MAJORITY, a majority that had been prevented by a minority
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 07:36 AM
Sep 2015

from even having the vote in the first place;and now lacks equal representation in Congress and has never had an individual in the office of President.

Until some woman has been President no woman can ever be termed an insider.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
34. One other thought
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:19 PM
Sep 2015

Hills, we have women CEOs, generals, admirals, astronauts, associate SC justices, and many others who have fought much harder than you have to get to where they're at. You wouldn't be the first to put a hole in the glass ceiling.

Your gender alone does not qualify you for the presidency. What else ya got? We're waiting.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
35. It is crystal clear she will say ANYTHING...
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:21 PM
Sep 2015

if she believes it somehow will help her get elected.

Trustworthy and Honest.... NOPE

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
37. Uh-oh! Looks like it may be time to send out some more of those household products gift boxes!!
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:22 PM
Sep 2015

Anything to draw attention away from this ludicrous assertion.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
39. OMG. That is pathetic. That's all I can really say.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:26 PM
Sep 2015

Ms. Insider with all of the money and endorsements and polls and little charts has declared herself an outsider?
That is pathetic.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
41. WTF? Seriously, is she okay?
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:28 PM
Sep 2015

I’m not even kidding, I’m starting to worry about her health. The shit she says...oh my dog, if she isn’t ill (or has some profound fatigue) its clear she’ll say anything!

Good lord!

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
44. And yet, BS supporters applaud when Bernie says he is an outsider
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:30 PM
Sep 2015

He has been in the government for decades. He is not an outsider he is the epitome of "same-old same-old."

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
90. To be fair she's no more of an outsider than Sanders
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 05:56 PM
Sep 2015

In fact Sanders has been in Washington as a Congressman and Senator longer than she has.So you Sanders supporters are being hypricritical

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
96. She didn't say that length of gov't service determines "outsider".
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 06:21 PM
Sep 2015

She said her gender made her an outsider. You know, a label she was tagged with since birth. Like being Jewish. If either of your parents were Jewish, you are Jew by Talmud law whether or not you practice.

Being an outsider because an individual is female would be news to women congress critters, senators, associate justices, and all the women flag officers prowling the Pentagon's hall ways including the vice CNO, US Navy.

We aren't outsiders anymore. We still have things to accomplished, but the ceiling is getting very thin and it has lots of holes in it.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
145. bernie is an outsider. He doesn't hang with shills and corporatists and he doesn't take their
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 03:46 AM
Sep 2015

bribes. Hence, outsider. Get back to me, Hillary when you only have 400,000 net worth

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
60. Hillaryites LOVE to point out how few Establishment congress critters have endorsed Bernie ...
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:53 PM
Sep 2015

which is precisely why he IS the outsider ... oh and how the DNC insiders rigged the debates
for their favorite fellow insider, Hillary Clinton.

uberblonde

(1,215 posts)
70. The same 'insider' they're trying to sandbag?
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 04:19 PM
Sep 2015

Why do you suppose they're trying to get Joe Biden to run? Because she's more of an insider than he is? Please.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
77. Great point. hadn't thought of that
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 04:31 PM
Sep 2015

there are so many gaping holes in Team Clinton's case for Hillary,
anyone who reads -- even lightly or occasionally -- the news can
see the hypocrisy writ BIG, and are not buying it.

Sure, these tawdry distortions may help keep the faithful faithful, for
awhile; but they certainly are not very convincing to anyone with
half a brain,

 

Ned Flanders

(233 posts)
65. And for decades he has expressed the same contrary views, despite their unpopularity
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:59 PM
Sep 2015

Are you serious, or just trolling us BS supporters?

pampango

(24,692 posts)
46. We don't really have 'outsider' candidates like repubs. Different views on the role of government
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:32 PM
Sep 2015

I assume. We want someone who knows how government works and will shape it consistent with their and our views. Republicans tend to just want anyone who will shut the government down. Don't need an 'insider' for that.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
47. ROFLMAO!!!!!!
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:33 PM
Sep 2015

What's it been...30 YEARS plus of having "Clinton" in front of us...

She's got to be kidding!

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
48. Give Hillary a break
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:33 PM
Sep 2015

She dodged sniper fire when she was First Lady. She might be suffering from PTSD.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
50. I actually listened to her today
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:37 PM
Sep 2015

She spoke quite intelligently and articulately on several topics.

She would make an outstanding President.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
62. There are a lot of people who can speak "intelligently and articulately on several topics,"
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:54 PM
Sep 2015

both from within and outside the Democratic Party. What makes Hillary Clinton the best (or even better) candidate for president than anyone else?

More importantly, certain of her statements, including that she's a "political outsider," no less just because she's a woman, are so ludicrous, crass, and blatantly opportunistic, that to some, actually and quite reasonably justify voting against her in the primary and presidential election.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
97. "...quite reasonably justify voting against her in the...presidential election"?
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 06:36 PM
Sep 2015

Spoken like a true Republican. They have the same opinion.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
105. If her campaign continues to consist of such transparent opportunism
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 07:36 PM
Sep 2015

and repeatedly insults the intelligence of the American people, regardless of political affiliation, she is clearly no different from any of her Republican rivals and arguably doesn't deserve the nomination, and yes, the presidency. I'm a lifelong and loyal Democrat. I'm not an idiot or sycophant.

The Democratic candidates in both the primary and general election have to earn my vote, they are not entitled to it, even if it's Hillary Clinton.

Now, do you actually contend that her statement that she's a "political outsider," particularly since she's a woman, is anything but comically absurd, transparently opportunistic, and insulting to voters?

Further, don't you require more from our presidential nominee than simply speaking "intelligently and articulately on several topics," a bar so incredibly low that even most Republican candidates easily meet or exceed it.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
109. Apparently you didn't bother watching the actual broadcast
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 08:05 PM
Sep 2015

Otherwise you wouldn't be so quick on the trigger to declare she "repeatedly insults the intelligence of the American people."

If you can't tell the difference between Hillary Clinton and the Republican candidates for President of the United States -- and you consider that "even most Republican candidates easily meet or exceed" the bar of speaking intelligently on several topics -- then I question your assertion that you aren't an idiot.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
111. Sigh..., let's try this again...
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 08:29 PM
Sep 2015

Are you actually defending Hillary's position she's a "political outsider," particularly since she's a woman?

Further, are you really suggesting that she has earned my or anyone else's vote because "she spoke quite intelligently and articulately on several topics?" I assure you that many other Democrats easily meet this threshold and actually are political outsiders (to the extent that's really a positive trait).

You can accuse me or anyone else of being a Republican (or idiot!) because we're not too impressed with Hillary Clinton or her campaign, but all you'll manage to accomplish is to insult other Democrats, and if she receives the nomination, ensuring that many of us just might stay home on election day (as many Democrats in 2012 and 2014). I and others will not stand for being insulted or taken for granted by any candidate.

Lastly, no matter how much I may disagree with virtually all Republicans on every important issue, I will not make the lazy mistake of believing them stupid or inarticulate. They most certainly are not, and that's precisely why they are so dangerous. When we underestimate them, we often lose. Just look at the current electoral map where Republicans control the Senate, have their largest majority in generations in the House, and control a clear majority of statehouses and goverorships. Trivializing Republicans' intellect and political skill will definitely not reverse this unfortunate situation.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
116. Context is everything
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 08:57 PM
Sep 2015

She made that remark as she described an encounter with a little girl presenting her with a picture of all previous (male) Presidents, and said that yes, she could be considered an "outsider" in this group because of her gender. The MSM by this article presented it otherwise, which has created the ill-informed reactions in this thread. This is a Republican meme, finding fault in extreme interpretations of what was expressly said.

I find her extremely well-qualified to run for the office, as i do Bernie Sanders. I think they both are raising important issues, but I won't denigrate one Democratic candidate's positions over another's. I do think that Clinton has much more name recognition than Sanders, along with the financial backing it takes to win the election -- like it or not, that is the unfortunate state of this country.

What I find particularly obnoxious, though, is declarations that one will sit out an election because their preferred candidate did not get the party's nomination; that is a recipe for a Republican win and what led to the Bush presidency. (Thanks for nothing, Nader voters.)

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
120. Hillary Clinton is anything but spontaneous.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 09:14 PM
Sep 2015

She's extremely calculating, which is both a benefit and liability on the campaign trail. When she's actually unscripted, it doesn't always go very well.

The "outsider" remark feels very similar to her "dead broke" comments, and I expect it to play as well with both Democrats and the general public.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/jun/10/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-says-she-and-bill-were-dead-broke/

Moreover, to repeat, a candidate has to earn my vote, and Clinton has not yet done so. More importantly, her gender doesn't make her any more or less qualified to be president.

We are also in the early stages of a primary election, and Hillary Clinton will be rightly (and sometime quite aggressively) compared and contrasted to other Democratic primary (and potential primary) candidates such as Sanders, O'Malley, and my current preference if he runs, Biden. Politics is hard ball, Clinton knows the rules and is more than capable of playing, and tough competition does not constitute "denigration."

Simply, as the many threads and posts on DU demonstrate, Clinton badly needs to improve her campaign if she wants to energize Democrats to come and and vote, the key component to winning the primary and election.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
98. Tell us about your political experience and accomplishments please
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 06:37 PM
Sep 2015

When were you elected to the Senate? How about your term as Secretary of State?

delrem

(9,688 posts)
74. She'll blow out those commies in Venezuela, just like she did in Honduras.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 04:27 PM
Sep 2015

She'll do it while bombing crap outta those gee-hadists in the middle east, nuking Pootie Poot Putin and laying the smack down on those Irainean scumbags - and she'll be riding a horse named "Freedom" with one hand tied behind her back. Yeehaw!

There's some people, I don't have to ask who their most favorite of all candidates is.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
99. And who will you be voting for in the election?
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 06:39 PM
Sep 2015

Oh, I forgot. You're not a US citizen, are you?

Sorry.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
54. Am I the only one who isn't sure whether to laugh or to cry?
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:47 PM
Sep 2015

What troubles me, however, is that this growing list of appalling missteps may be completely wiped away (What? You mean with a cloth?) so by the time of her coronation, ardent supporters will profess to have absolutely no recollection of them.

It reminds me a little of a disgraced former apparatchik in Stalinist Russia who is completely expunged from the official history.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
94. Ya know, I'm not a Hillary fan
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 06:13 PM
Sep 2015

HOWEVER, I am really appalled at what IMHO are unforced errors. She is not a novice in politics. More to the point she ran for president once already and apparently hasn't learned a damn thing from the first failed campaign. I really do not understand it. Whatever else negative could be said about her she is not stupid. And yet.....

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
110. A lot of very smart people do & say stupid things...
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 08:23 PM
Sep 2015

I think her biggest problem is she's sitting atop so much money she just throws it at her problems via hiring this or that consultant who comes up with this type of nonsense. That, and her natural political instincts are not as sharp as her husband's or Obama's. No crime in that, but you need to have really talented people around you to make up for your shortcomings.

As far as being an outsider, I don't know if there is any person in politics who is less of an outsider than Hillary.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
123. She is making some of the same mistakes she did in 2008
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 09:35 PM
Sep 2015

Maybe not as bad, but still they are unforced errors. In this instance, she can't claim she was misquoted because she tweeted the same thing.

She is divisive and that is one of the things that continues to drive people away from supporting her (her stances on the issues are another reason, but that is for another thread).

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
57. I'm sorry to say ...
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:52 PM
Sep 2015

but Hillary is an incredibly weak candidate. If she obtains the nomination I think she might manage to lose the general. She's underwelming.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
64. There's millions of dollars that says you're wrong
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:56 PM
Sep 2015

If you're rich enough, you can purchase the truth. And now, thanks to the wonders of Citizens United, you can probably buy the White House, too.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
127. True enough but we'll see
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 09:52 PM
Sep 2015

things are weird in this countries politics right now. People are looking for an alternative. Maybe not enough people. Time will tell.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
129. Never mind him. That's just the cynical Rufus
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 09:59 PM
Sep 2015

The idealistic Rufus truly hopes that democracy will prevail.







OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
63. By this reasoning, Fiorina and Palin were just as qualified.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:54 PM
Sep 2015

It's not what you've got between your legs, it's what you've got between your ears that counts.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
66. "and unlike the other outsiders, I have the beltway connections and knowledge to make DC work!"
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 04:05 PM
Sep 2015


Now if you'll excuse me, I have more spontaneity to plan.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
73. not only is this hilarious
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 04:26 PM
Sep 2015

it is pathetic and demeaning to half the population.

she doesn't want women to be treated differently because of their gender, but she continually and shamelessly touts gender as a reason to vote for her. Double standard much?

Ford_Prefect

(7,891 posts)
82. Someone call the Irony Squad!!!!!
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 05:01 PM
Sep 2015

Its right up there with insisting that of course the voters trust her. The overwhelming need to be believable is almost more than I can take. She would do much better simply saying what she is actually has done than making empty sounding remarks like this one. She has a point but it doesn't apply in this case.

This is almost as bad as the Conservative Christians crying how they are victims while they deny everyone else's right to personal belief.

I won't be buying any used cars from her campaign.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
84. Indeed, and I'm the queen of Spain.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 05:16 PM
Sep 2015

H: Lord love me! Such conjecturing could drive a woman insane
And I'm the one to set this gossip quite to rest
The Outsider is me!

Indeed! And I'm the Queen of Spain!

H: (What?)

The Outsider is nothing but a nosy pest.

No, the vicar says the Outsider's a bishop in disguise.

Who gives absolution night and day.

Stuff and nonsense, don't you know?
She's a maharajah from Bombay.

They say she has enormous feet.

And that she tends to overeat.

I've heard she's fussy with her food.

And eats her breakfast in the nude.

Is she robust? Or very pale?
At least we know she's female!
Who is the Political Outsider?

Me sister says her breath is sweeter than an Irish rose,
I'm sure I'd fall in love if she would cross my path!

Ah, yes, if you could overlook the warts upon her nose.

And possibly persuade her she should take a bath.

H: (Ha!)

Rumour has it she's Castillian.

She's a reckless buccaneer.

And I hear she carries several whips.

H: (Several...wh-whips?)

She's a sultan from Kabul
with women at her fingertips.

They say she's nearly eight feet tall.

And yet quite graceful...

Folderal! I'm told she waddles when she walks.

And often twitches when she talks.

Is she a dolt? She's very deep!

Oh, DC's losing sleep!

Who is the Political Outsider?

The butcher in the village claims he saw the woman last week...

H: (Where?)

...Galloping her camel cross the moor.

She's been seen
Wearing full Blakeney green.

H: I've told you all before...
The lady's me!

It's George the Third!

Perhaps a convict run amok.

This Outsider could be most any sod.

H: (How dare you!)

Bite your tongue, she is dashing and young!

The Outsider's a god!
And she'll find me, and she'll wake me, and she'll take me...

Down on a haystack!

She'll face me...

Then at last you could tell
If she's a hero or a monk, a fiddling Nero or a drunk.
Who is the Political Outsider?

I'm sure she's flatulant and crass.

Here, here, the woman's a horse's ass!

No, no, she's neighbourly and kind.

But quite erotically inclined.

H: (Oh!)

Whatever guise she may employ,
She's DC's pride and joy!
This plucky non-pareil...

H: This lucky, bloody swell...

Who is the Political Outsider?





Liberties taken with Who is the Scarlet Pimpernel?

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
87. I fully expected this to be an "Onion" or "Borowitz" piece.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 05:17 PM
Sep 2015

I am stunned to see Hillary actually said that she is an "outsider" because she is a woman...
and that is a good reason to vote for her.
I've actually seen many posts on DU that agree.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
114. Without any intention of making a joke.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 08:50 PM
Sep 2015

Poor Onion and Borowitz. They really cannot compete with reality.

OakCliffDem

(1,274 posts)
93. I am so glad that Bernie Sanders is a Political 'Insider'
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 06:04 PM
Sep 2015

    Bernie has many powerful friends in the Federal Government, and he has accumulated a vast store of political capitol.

    That makes Bernie the superior choice for President.
 

branford

(4,462 posts)
115. The "political outsider" remark is comparable to her contention that she and Bill were "dead broke."
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 08:52 PM
Sep 2015
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/jun/10/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-says-she-and-bill-were-dead-broke/

I believe the outsider remark will likely play as well as the broke comment with the general public, and under no circumstances, be good for our Party or Clinton herself.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
139. When in all of history has any woman ever been elected President of the U.S.?
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 12:49 AM
Sep 2015

With regard to that position, every woman is an outsider.

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
118. Oh fucking STOP IT!
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 09:06 PM
Sep 2015

What pathetic horseshit.

Short of squeezing into a hydrogen nucleus, she couldn't possibly be more "inside".

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
125. She Is Poor Too Right...Lol
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 09:45 PM
Sep 2015

Clinton and her gullible followers are entering the absurdity of the twilight zone.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
131. No love of Hillary. We love the platform Bernie is touting, & we trust him to do his best
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:36 PM
Sep 2015

We trust Hillary to say she is one of us, and govern for the 1%

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
134. For the record, in the general, if she's the nominee, I will absolutely vote for her . . .
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:47 PM
Sep 2015

Because the alternative, in light of the apparent outbreak of St. Anthony's Fire among the GOP candidates, does not bear even thinking about.

However, when she says something as patently absurd as this, I'm going to call her on it.

Sec. Clinton is a Beltway "outsider" about as much as Walt Disney would be an "outsider" in Tomorrowland.

 

Old Union Guy

(738 posts)
136. She is the ultimate insider, and everybody here knows it.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 11:11 PM
Sep 2015

To those who say otherwise, your loyalty is touching.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
138. Any woman is an outsider, since NO woman in history has ever been elected President
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 12:48 AM
Sep 2015

of the United States.

And Congress includes only 103 women out of 535 members of the House and Senate.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
148. she is a part of a minority. being inside means having access to zillions,
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 03:53 AM
Sep 2015

endorsements from the drones ... remember how EVERYONE is endorsing her? Or is that erased too? Insiders get endorsed, money, 'inevitability' all of it. She is inside out she's so inside. Her gender makes her a minority in her field, not an outsider. Big dif.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
150. No, she is part of a MAJORITY yet no member of that MAJORITY
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 07:34 AM
Sep 2015

has ever been enough of an insider to get elected President so far, including her.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
156. I want a woman there but not her. she is an insider. check
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 10:58 AM
Sep 2015

Her wallet. That's key one. That she has zillionaires giving her millions that's key 2. That she is the inevitable candidate they say is key 3. I could do this all night.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
154. That does not a political outsider make.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 07:43 AM
Sep 2015

She is the most entrenched and politically well connected candidate running. Her comment is offensive.

longship

(40,416 posts)
142. Let's feed this headline to our iNews 5000 WiFi Headline translator.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 02:57 AM
Sep 2015

Okay! Let's fire up the iNews 5000 and see what we get:

Hillary Clinton Argues She Would Be a Political 'Outsider'


Spring, sprong, bing, bong, boinggggg, ding!

Translation: Inside is Outside, Hillary now resides within her own Klein Bottle.
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
152. What a joke. She has no shame and it's insulting to us.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 07:40 AM
Sep 2015

And that comment is incredibly sexist and self defeating. God, how obnoxious.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
161. I always laugh when a wealthy powerful politician does this.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:28 AM
Sep 2015

I suppose you have to try because every other candidate under the sun is going to paint themselves as an "outsider" too when Congress has such a low approval rating, but it's still laughable.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
185. Except for the fact that she's a political 'insider'.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:32 PM
Sep 2015

Washington and Wall Street are in her blood.

By all means, let's talk about the opposition she faces because she's a woman, or because she's a Clinton...but there's no realistic way to paint her as the most outside of outsiders ever. NThat's just stupid.

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