Bill Clinton Blames G.O.P. and Press for Wife’s Email Woes

[Purveyor]

Source: New York Times

3:42 PM ET By Amy Chozick




Former President Bill Clinton blamed Republicans who hope to undercut his wife’s presidential chances and a voracious political news media uninterested in substance for the furor surrounding Hillary Rodham Clinton’s use of a private email account and server while she was secretary of state.

“I have never seen so much expended on so little,” Mr. Clinton said in a taped interview with CNN’s Fareed Zakaria that will be shown on Sunday. The network released excerpts on Saturday afternoon.

“She said she was sorry that her personal email caused all this confusion. And she’d like to give the election back to the American people,” Mr. Clinton said. “I think it will be all right. But it’s obvious what happened.”

Mr. Clinton likened the current inquiries into Mrs. Clinton’s emails to scandals as far back as the Whitewater land deal that plagued his 1992 campaign and the early years of his administration.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/26/bill-clinton-blames-g-o-p-news-media-for-wifes-email-woes/

[magical thyme]

1. it's always somebody else's fault.

She blames W for her Iraq war vote.
She blames Biden for her Bankrupcty Law vote.
And it's the GOP and Media's fault she decided she needed to put sensitive government business on an unsecure, basement server and leave sorting out the people's versus private emails to aides instead of keeping them separate to begin with.

[66 dmhlt]

53. What a load of twaddle

[roguevalley]

55. she began this with her private server and fanned the flames by dragging it out

this didn't come from nothing. Her lack of handling it well made it the problem. He is blaming those who are complicit but she started it.

[GGJohn]

94. What an intelligent reply.

Everything in that post was fact, not "twaddle" as you claim.

[Ichigo Kurosaki]

93. This wouldn't be an issue if she used the .gov servers

she brought this on herself.
There is no doubt in my mind that that information that shouldn't have left the .gov servers were passed onto her private server otherwise how could she conduct State business?
I doubt she was running to an embassy etc to conduct business while she was out of the country.

[merrily]

102. Not only the servers, but the way she's handled this since it hit the fan.

[PSPS]

2. He's right, of course. The rabid "Hillary Haters" won't hear of it, though.

[yeoman6987]

4. The news keeps the story going when something new occurs

The GOP has been weirdly quiet about it.

[Lychee2]

14. S.O.P.

If one party gets into trouble, the other party just stands by and watches it self-destruct. It looks "mean" if they pile on.

[Kingofalldems]

27. I guess you forgot about all the hearings going on.

Good try once more.

[6000eliot]

76. What has actually happened that has even been worth remark?

Has national security been breached? Has anything or will anything ever be proven about this other than the fact that she used a private email server? NO. It's a fake scandal ginned up by the media and the Right, and that is all it will ever be. Talking about it endlessly on here ONLY does the GOP's job for them.

[m-lekktor]

40. Everybody knows Bill Clinton would NEVER lie.

He never DID have sex with that woman.

[cheapdate]

61. Thank goodness that Issa, Hutchinson, and Gingrich had the courage to expose him. n/t

[marshall]

87. Not the relations kind

as he taught us, there is a difference between sex and sexual relations. The questioners were too stupid to ask the right question, and he pulled one over on them. Clever people fooling dumb people is part of life, it's how we get ahead.

[lolly]

71. Yep. Very naive

Anybody who thinks that Bernie--or any Democratic candidate--won't get the same treatment is naive.

They will find some pretext to dig up his college term papers, or his letters to an old girlfriend, or some pile of pro-forma paperwork he filled out when he first entered congress and they will parse it and take words and documents out of context and leak out these distortions until they have the press convinced that "there must be something there."

I think if he wins the primary he will probably win anyway, but it's embarrassing the way Democrats always fall for this crap coming from the Republican slime machine.

[jkbRN]

3. I see this as insanely pathetic.

[blm]

5. it would be 'insane' if it wasn't true. It IS true that the focus on the emails

is specific to her, alone, when Powell and Rice and many within Bush's WH conducted themselves similarly.

Did GOP congress place similar demands on Bush WH? Powell? Rice?

[karynnj]

43. I agree that HRC is the first person called on this, but she went a few steps further than others

She is the only one to use JUST a private account and the only one to have her own server! Beyond that, she is the only one who did not bother to archive any of the email - even when there were FOIA requests that should have applied to them.

I know my parents never accepted the - but others are doing it excuse -- and my kids really never tried it on us - preferring other defenses.

The fact is that HRC did this and since it became public she has consistently had to change her story as events found her comments to not be true. I get that she did this because she is - and always was - secretive. The most ironic thing is that it has led to the public release of many many things that never would have become public had she just used State.gov.

The best argument for her is that she was the one there when there was a shift towards email becoming a more dominant form of passing information. Previous Secretaries used it less AND there was a public shift towards wanting the government being held accountable.

[murielm99]

6. Bill is correct.

We have seen this before.

[asjr]

18. You are correct. This whole piece of crap harks

back to when Hillary, as wife of Potus, stated she was not going to stay home and bake cookies. The Republican party was not prepared for a "lady" who had smarts. And still are not prepared.

[Fred Sanders]

21. The thing is that Bill is correct...which is the whole point being missed and deflected from.

[Le Taz Hot]

37. OK, I'm calling bullshit here.

A WHOLE lot of us, including those of us who are lifelong feminists, resented that "baking cookies" remark. It demeaned one of the important rolls provided mostly by women which is the roll of homemaker. And YOUR remark was just as insulting insinuating that one who stays home and bakes cookies cannot also be smart.

[restorefreedom]

46. good point

one of the victories of feminism is that women can choose their path. and some (who are able) choose to be sahw/sahm.

its too bad that we have swung so far the other way that many are villified for it.

so much for choice.

[asjr]

88. I insinuated no such thing. Don't try to put words in my mouth.

I was married for 25 years, worked 40 hours a week the entire time and raised 3 children and fed a husband until he passed away. I even baked cookies. The phrase "baking cookies" remark was not mine but Hillary's.

[TwilightGardener]

7. I'm not confused in the least by her attempt to hide all her email communications

as SoS. Why do Bill and Hillary think it's "confusing"? We know what she tried to do, and it bit her in the ass.

[twii]

8. Was what she did illegal?

?

[frylock]

12. HILLARY 2016: Was what she did illegal?

[Lychee2]

16. Read this and tell me what you think.

18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense,

(1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or

(2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

I think there are many counts of several different crimes. It gives me no pleasure to say this.

[Sunlei]

74. I think no 'negligence' at all.

[tularetom]

33. LOL I want that on my bumper

Or maybe slightly revised:

HILLARY 2016: What she did probably wasn't illegal!

[Divernan]

83. That would make a terrific bumper sticker, except for one thing

Other drivers reading it would have accidents while laughing so hard!

I see they're putting Bill out on the fund-raising soirees-for-the-wealthy circuit. Vacuuming up every possible dollar before she loses New Hampshire and Iowa and goes into her final circle-the-drain stage before dropping out.

President Bill Clinton will headline a fundraiser for his wife's presidential campaign in Michigan next month, The Detroit News has learned.

The former president will headline an October 7 fundraiser in Bingham Farms at the home of Doreen Hermelin. Tickets to the two-hour event cost $500, and attendees can get a photo with former President Clinton by making a $2700 contribution. People can cohost the event by raising $10,000.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2015/09/26/clinton-fundraiser-bingham-farms/72877586/

[TwilightGardener]

13. I suppose we have to wait for the FBI to clear her aides.

[catnhatnh]

15. Diddling an intern in the oval office isn't illegal....

it's just tacky and cheap. Lying though can get you impeached. And merely being found to have behaved badly or stupidly isn't illegal but can cost you if you run for elective office.

[7962]

62. Like Martha Stewart; lying is what sent her to jail nt

[merrily]

106. He did not get impeached for lying. He got impeached for perjuring himself under oath.

Clueless reply about getting impeached for a blow job in 5-4-3-2

[Fred Sanders]

17. Money shot question that we all know the answer to... NO...as does the GOP, but all have to ignore.

[7962]

25. Yes, what she did was illegal. But nothing will be done to her. nt

[Kingofalldems]

45. Really? You should send your evidence to the GOP reps

downtown. More than one hearing going on.

[7962]

63. Post #16 explains it nicely. But it still wont matter; she'll skate.

Because thats what the Clintons do.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

89. Facts just get in their way, especially if

Madam inevitable risks being damaged by her own bad choices and poor judgement.

[Kingofalldems]

103. So I guess she won't have your support if she is nominated?

[7962]

111. I've never said I wouldnt support the eventual nominee.

I just tire of "win regardless of ethics". But it IS about winning.
Its no different to me than pro teams who sign up criminals because they're good players. Or fans that support such moves.

[twii]

90. It's a cover-up, I tell you

The fbi is engaged in a massive cover-up, according to the guy you replied you, and to right wingers.

[7962]

92. Yeah, toss in the 'ol "right wing" BS to disqualify any facts.

Like complaining about WHERE a story comes from without disputing the story itself.

And I never mentioned "cover up". Merely saying that none of it matters because the Clintons arent covered by the same rules as the rest of us. They used to be poor, too, you know.

[twii]

97. The FBI cover-up theory isn't kooky enough for you?

Even leaving out the right wing, you don't think it's crazy?

[7962]

99. I dont believe there IS a cover up.

I just dont think anything will happen regardless of WHAT they find.

[twii]

108. Stop spinning

You said nothing will happen, therefore you said she won't be charged with anything.
Will Clinton be charged? Tell us what you think. And if she won't be charged despite being the law, isn't that a cover-up?

[ish of the hammer]

50. no- she was/is secrative

while doing the people's business. not a good thing, not illegal.
how did the Clinton's go from flat broke to 55 mil in 2010 doing the people's business anyway?

[Darb]

9. Exactly right, all of THREE SsOS have even used email.

This is much ado about nothing. Those here milking this need to take a quaalude.

[twii]

10. Don't be afraid to rec despite NY Times false "blame" title

The newspaper is designed to elicit a negative reaction toward Clinton.

[Fred Sanders]

19. And it is working! As the headline only read by half of all readers was carefully designed to do.

Headline editors do not just pick words out of thin air or by accident to put in a headline.

"Blames" was chosen...though never said by Clinton, so by definition it is an editorial comment, not a factual statement.

How about "pointed out? Or "observed"? Or "imputed"? Or even "attacked"? I would have been God with " attacked".... But all were rejected and the vote sent for "blames"

[7962]

26. reading the article, "blaming" is exactly what he's doing.

A different word in the article title means nothing

[tularetom]

11. Oh, he's wagging his finger in our face again

After 25 years, everybody's still picking on him.

[Lychee2]

22. They BOTH do it.

Hillary does it more than Bill. Some adviser should tell them to stop overworking it. Here's a collection of Hillary doing it:

https://www.google.ca/search?q=hillary+wagging+her+finger&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIjuLV_uaVyAIViHA-Ch3DJQ8H&biw=692&bih=486#tbm=isch&q=hillary+clinton+pointing+her+finger

[haikugal]

77. I really hate that finger wagging....ugh!!

[Lychee2]

116. It makes me feel like they're scolding the audience.

I think they do it for emphasis, but there are better more polite ways to do that. Finger wagging is normally an expression of disapproval.

[haikugal]

117. Always an expression of disapproval and scolding AND rude!

I was raised to never do that....Clinton does it more often than most....hate it!

[SoapBox]

20. Oh ya...Whitewater...

Thanks for reminding everyone, Willie.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_controversy

[7962]

23. Sounds similar to excuses from an abuser: "Why do you make me hit you?"

Its not HILLARY'S fault for doing something stupid and getting caught, its everyone else who noticed

[7962]

24. "President Obama did not face similar Republican-led efforts to derail his candidacy."

HUH???

[elehhhhna]

30. Uh his mind is going. Sad.

[hollowdweller]

56. They tried with Obama but he didn't have enough to work with

I think a number of politicians have done the same as Hillary and got away with it. What I don't understand is after going thru all the Whitewater stuff incl. the impeachment thing why give them ammo.

I mean if she had even used 2 difft private accounts, one for work and one for non work they would not be able to get her private emails and release them for political reasons. However the way it was done looks like private emails will be out there too and used to hurt her chances of election.

To have been hounded and hunted for purely political reasons I just can't see why she wouldn't have seen this coming. Republicans view any democrat as illegitimate and seek to defeat them not by discrediting their ideas, because if it came to ideas they would lose, but by either throwing the election, defaming the candidate, or trying to find something that is or looks illegal.

[davidpdx]

68. With Obama they had nothing to work with, that is what I like about him

Other than accusing him of being a Muslim and a dictator they've had nothing. Both are more insults than accusations.

[moonscape]

79. When Hillary decided to use their private server,

I think she did it for privacy and control reasons. At the time, having just come out of a long exhausting brusing campaign, I'm speculating the last thing on her mind was that she would run again.

Perhaps if she had imagined running in 8 years, she would have been more politically calculating - but then again, having good political instincts was never her forte.

[Jesus Malverde]

81. Pretty sure that's code for the republicans blessed President Obama

With all the looking forward...who knows. I do know Cheney is running around on tv and not in a tribunal in The Hague.

[youceyec]

28. if the right wing

can blame media for everything, why cant the left?

[tularetom]

35. Bill Clinton blaming the media is not "the left"

[youceyec]

36. If Ben Carson and trump can attack the media

why cant bill clinton?

[tularetom]

38. I don't think anybody's trying to stop him

He's been whining about the media for a quarter of a century.

I didn't say he couldn't complain about the media. I merely dispute the contention that Clinton represents "the left".

[bvar22]

66. The Media is in the shape it is today BECAUSE of BIll Clinton.

The Telecommunications Act 1996, gleefully signed by Bill Clinton allowed a handful of people to control all the MSM in the USA.

Thanks, Bill.

It is only Karma if this bites Hillary.

[haikugal]

78. Thank you!!

[denvine]

29. I am a Bernie supporter but he is right.

They're endless pursuit of Benghazi and her emails are typical Republican tactics to discredit her. She made a mistake but the infraction pales in comparison to other scandals that don't get any attention, especially from Republicans. They are f#%king pitbulls and the media plays right along!

[A Simple Game]

48. You're right about Benghazi but the email is not the same.

Hillary had nothing to do about Benghazi before, during or after, but the email? That was just stupid and we don't need a stupid President.

But then who could have expected Hillary to know the Republicans would jump all over her for keeping official government email along with personal email on her own private server? Who would think something could go wrong when she had thousands of emails deleted without government review?

What had the vast right wing conspiracy ever done to her in the past? Stupid, just plain stupid, and no one else to blame for it.

What I don't understand is how did she do confidential communications if it wasn't on her email account? And didn't that negate the reason she kept the official email with her personal email?

[a2liberal]

51. This. (nt)

[OnyxCollie]

31. LOL!

[bvar22]

32. We know, we know. (sigh)

Isn't that the very same finger point he used when he lied to the World about "not having sex with THAT woman"?

If I were playing poker with Bill Clinton, that finger point would be a giant "tell".

[SoapBox]

34. Oh ya...and there was that too.

You're not helping, Willie.

And all these past "controversies" be they factual or not...will all add up to why HRC cannot win.

She has been virtually invisible to the public eye...just wait until those very few debates...Americans are finally going to see and hear her...and be reminded of why they do not like her.

She has TONS of baggage, whether it's true baggage or not...and the low information voter is not going to research information, they are only going to know she feels dishonest.

[840high]

69. Now you know the Clintons

never lie.

[Divernan]

84. Dr. Suess re Bill's finger: Oh the places it's been.

[840high]

39. Shut up Bill. She

brought this on herself.

[Evergreen Emerald]

42. Wrong.

The fact that you have no idea what is going on is astounding. Or, perhaps you do, but are willing to put up with it because you have aligned yourself with the republicans.

[840high]

44. Your comment leaves me cold. Hillary

is well known for blaming others for her goofs. 'bye

[Evergreen Emerald]

65. I am not sure what you mean

However, I will let you know that she has not "goofed" she did what every other SOS has done. It is different when she does it...because? Because people who want her to fail will stoop to using lies and distortions.

Bye.

[tex-wyo-dem]

52. Actually, I'm afraid she did bring this on herself...

Mixing up a bunch of her official SoS email with her personal email is risky and dumb. It's not hard to keep your @workemail.com separate from your @personalemail.com...I do that every day and would never mix the two. In fact my work has a stated policy that all work related email must be kept on the official encrypted work server, otherwise I could lose my job...and I don't even work for the government.

She should have known that the risk of this becoming exposed could jeopardize her political career, particularly running for the highest office in the government.

Keeping official and sensitive government communication on her personal server was dumb, risky, wrong and possibly illegal.

[Evergreen Emerald]

64. Wrong

She did what every other SOS has done. Nothing new. Nothing different.

The republicans have snowed you...or worse. You are so intent on attacking Clinton that you will use RW BS.

[ChiTownDenny]

41. Duh!

Was there ever any doubt?

[restorefreedom]

47. isnt it amazing

that NOTHING is ever their doing?

[Android3.14]

49. Well, yes. Definitely blame the GOP, the press, AND she shouldn't have done it.

And she should have dealt with the aftermath openly.

[JoePhilly]

54. If Hillary had a dick, they'd be chasing that all around.

Just like they did with Bill.

But since she does not ... well, apparently email is the best they could come up with.

[pocoloco]

57. LOL!! No they are saving the good stuff

for when she gets the nomination!!

I mean if. That's when all the real fun will start!!

[JoePhilly]

58. As we have seen during the Obama Presidency ...

... the GOP is going to try and crucify any candidate we put forward.

And given that ... we might as well pick a candidate that they have been attacking for roughly 25 years, who is used to it.

If anything ... the GOP war on the Clinton's has probably inoculated her more than anyone we might ever put up.

[StoneCarver]

59. I'm tired

I don't want to relive the 90's. If Hillary is our candidate and wins, it will be hell for four more years. I realize the right is crazy but after eight years of stonewalling BO. I can't take another four (or eight) with another Clinton. We need another way to break this BS. I don't know if Bernie will win, but at least he's a fresh face with fresh ideas. -Next!
Stonecarver

[JoePhilly]

60. The GOP and RW will crucify anyone we put forward ...

...and they do not give a shit how "tired" you are of their nonsense.

If Sanders were to become our nominee ... their attacks will not soften.

And only a fool would think they would.

[bvar22]

67. Bernie is UP for that fight.

As you can see, Hillary has to run to Bill to take care of the meanies for her.
NOT very presidential.

[LeFleur1]

70. We'll See

If The Republicans ever think Bernie is a threat he will be getting a whole shinola load thrown at him and we'll see if his supporters here recognize it and comment. At that time does any one here believe that those supporting Bernie on this forum won't mention that the the Republicans, using the media, and anything else they can latch onto, are lying to bring him down, that they will make mountains out of molehills, characterize any vote he has ever made as one that, by itself, caused the world to nearly end, that they will sit by when he is accused of criminal acts, acts that have been carried out in congress since the beginning of time but are suddenly "illegal" because he did it. Do you think they will become mute when the Republicans won't recognize the good he has done, and instead disparage all of his acts since the day he was born.

And as for those who have the audacity to think Hillary would have to run to anyone to take care of 'meanies', you don't know much about her. I would bet on Hillary kicking any Republican load carriers ass that had to be kicked, either HERE or out there. She's been doing it for all the years they've been attacking her because she chooses not to sit home and bake cookies. And that's her choice. Surprise! She gets a choice, too. And she is allowed to speak freely like any other citizen of the USA.

I like Bernie, but every time I see the hatred spewed here concerning Hillary I wonder what it is about him that attracts spewers. It's worrisome. Maybe I'm missing something in him that attracts spewers. They can't seem to list why they support Bernie, they absolutely must further the lies the Republicans rant about Hillary, and call her names, insult her. They don't seem interested in building Bernie up, only in tearing Hillary down.

[Sunlei]

75. on the mark. IMO, a lot of those as you call them 'spewers' are republicans

[redruddyred]

72. hi everyone, I'm a bernie supporter,

and I agree with bill on this one. this email stuff is stupid. it's all politics.

[Sunlei]

73. He's right.

[Jesus Malverde]

80. Back at ya with the passive agressivE apology

I'm sorry I was confused by her use of a homebrew server for national security work. I guess my small brain gets confused about what's allowed and by whom. Thanks Mr. Clinton for clearing up MY confusion. I guess it was unfair of me to think the SOS was lacksidasical about top secret data and mixing personal and government business.

That should wrap up the email scandal. What difference at this point does it make?

[polynomial]

82. The Republican Play Card Is in the Mail

It’s becoming clear when the Republicans play politics they choose to convolute an issue where they are very venerable. The genre of the Republicans of today is a media supported way to practice deception while translating scandal to their advantage.

Moreover, using money “in vivo” with the long time Bush Crime Inc. family business partnership, political friends the Bin Laden’s. Bush Crime Inc. has a history in profiteering with the enemy, Nazi or Islamic extremist.

All done with an American resilient stealth money system influenced by foreign and domestic nationals that are products going back to the Knights Templar or Swiss and Vatican International Royal’s secret banking accounts. War being the business.

It’s not inconceivable to ponder that Cheney built and left behind a shadow Military Industrial Complex capable to perpetuate the mess the American tax payer is condemned to pay for.

From my view it’s obvious by the email sensationalism the media is complicit in well-rounded Fox news, ABC, MSNBC, or CNN flooded with under the radar Arab money in “commercial revenue Iraq bribe war”.

No Hillary did not do anything wrong sending mail electronic, but as a high official what secret hard copy dispatches did she make? And can they be compared to the Bush Crime Inc. secret hardcopy top secret dispatches? The media avoids this obvious open secret that needs debate.

From my research Top Secret metadata files point to Booze Allen and Hamilton subcontractor during the Bush administration could be very loaded in treason with copies to the Arab Bin Laden family. All compromised by the media such as MSNBC. Even a young man like Edward Snowden thought there is a breach in security.

Good reason the speaker of the house is frightened. Knowing the American public is in the apocalypse lifting the veil or revelation to truth the Iraq war was wrong and Hillary as the world was deceived by Bush Crime Inc.

[Botany]

85. He is right

Hillary broke no laws, violated no rules, and did not have her server "wiped clean."

These attacks are swiftboating end of story.

[Vinca]

86. This is a self-inflicted wound.

She shouldn't be surprised at any of this. Look how the right demonized John Kerry for being a war veteran. What's troubling to me is I'm beginning to hear the "I" word in news broadcasts: indictment. Her need to live in a bubble could give us President Trump.

[twii]

91. So when the nytimes lies, it inflicts no wounds? Nt

[Vinca]

95. So you think Bill Clinton is lying in this piece?

[twii]

96. I asked you a question

Are wounds not inflicted on Hillary when the NYTimes does this?

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/07/24/3684315/hillary-clinton-email-investigation-explainer/

[Vinca]

98. There would be no email topic at all if Hillary had used her private email

for private emails and her government email for business emails. It's all self-inflicted and I haven't heard of any lawsuits against the NYT or any other news outlet for defamation. Of course wounds are inflicted by the media. That's what they do in a political season. It may not be right, but it is what it is. All I can figure is she took really bad advice from her bubble keepers about how to conduct her email and now it could give us a Republican president.

[Evergreen Emerald]

100. BS

It does not matter how lawful, how standard the practice is--the republicans make up shit.

I am so deeply offended that democrats are aligned with the republicans. Apparently they do not believe their candidate can win without the lies and distortions.

[Vinca]

104. How will you defend her if she's indicted for something?

I've heard that out of more than one non-right-wing pundit over the past few days. My biggest fear is that there is something there and we won't know about it until it's too late and a Republican is elected. You have to admit she made a mistake when she took the SOS job and should not have set up a private server to conduct all of her government business. If she hadn't done that, her emails wouldn't be a topic of conversation either negatively or positively. As you realize, I'm a Bernie supporter but I've said over and over again I'll vote for her if she is the nominee. My worst fear is a wingnut president. At this point she still has my vote, but I'm very pissed off about the whole issue because it wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for that private server.

[Evergreen Emerald]

105. Lol... you have high hopes.

It is all bullshit. I am sorry that you have been snowed. This goes to show how easy it is to manipulate people.

[Vinca]

107. It is most definitely not my hope. It's my fear.

I believe she will be the nominee even though I support Bernie. I'm just not so sure she'll be the POTUS.

[Botany]

109. President Clinton is right

Hillary broke no laws, violated no rules, and did not have her server "wiped clean."

These attacks are swiftboating end of story.

[Vinca]

110. I hope that is true.

Meanwhile, it's drip, drip, drip and in the hands of the FBI. Not the best press.

[Botany]

112. These attacks are shameful

And the drip drip drip is by design ..... she broke no laws, violated no rules,
and she did not have her server wiped clean.



"I have here in my hand a list of 205—a list of names that were made known to
the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party."

[Vinca]

118. I might have said that until the FBI got involved. In fact, I'm sure I did.

They don't normally do that when there is no suspicion of wrongdoing.

[Botany]

119. Oh for the love of dog

She sent and recieved emails so what?

This is swiftboating end of story.

[merrily]

101. Blaming media and GOP has been working for Clintons for almost a quarter century.

I remember when Hillary, on the Today Show, blamed the "vast right wing conspiracy" for the Lewinsky rumors.

[Gloria]

113. I saw the interview and the NYT used the word BLAME.....

He was asked about that and said, no, it's just the way the politics works...he gave as an example of something the GOP had done to him on some policy thing, if I recall.

The GOP is wired to do this and that's basically what the thrust of the discussion was.

He wasn't whining at all, he was explaining and reminding people of the GOP's past behavior...

They did it with Gore (internet), Kerry (made him into a liar about VietNam) and they will do it with any Dem....

Sanders hasn't gotten the treatment...yet...

[twii]

114. It's link bait from a Dowd-wannabe

That Amy girl is nothing but a gossip monger.