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riversedge

(70,204 posts)
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 02:18 PM Oct 2015

Clinton singles out gay rights as a central pillar of her 2016 presidential campaign

Source: Star Tribune -AP



Clinton singles out gay rights as a central pillar of her 2016 presidential campaign

By LISA LERER Associated Press
October 3, 2015 — 11:55am


WASHINGTON — Hillary Rodham Clinton on Saturday delivered the strongest statement of support for gay rights in the 2016 presidential race when she promised that ending discrimination against gay, lesbian and transgender people would be a central pillar of her administration.

"I see the injustices and the dangers that you and your families still face," she told hundreds of gay activists at the annual meeting of the Human Rights Campaign. "I'm running for president to stand up for the fundamental rights of LGBT Americans."

She added: "That's a promise from one HRC to another."
.........................


As activists chanted her name, she promised to work to pass legislation that would end discrimination, lower costs for HIV treatment and stop funding child welfare agencies that discriminate against gay parents.

Clinton has placed equal rights at the forefront of her campaign, in part a reflection of the growing political and financial strength of the gay community in Democratic politics.

Read more: http://www.startribune.com/clinton-makes-gay-rights-as-a-core-promise-of-2016-campaign/330518661/



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Clinton singles out gay rights as a central pillar of her 2016 presidential campaign (Original Post) riversedge Oct 2015 OP
So basically... retrowire Oct 2015 #1
That, and Wall Street doesn't mind her recent 'evolution'. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #2
There is no money in gay rights. zeemike Oct 2015 #15
And using BLM and POC as that central pillar isn't working... Bubzer Oct 2015 #7
which ever way the wind blows........... bowens43 Oct 2015 #3
Evolution, Revolution.....What difference does it make? Indepatriot Oct 2015 #4
This would have been bold in 2000 XemaSab Oct 2015 #5
Seems legit. Oh wait ... AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #6
She will twist again, if she gets the nom she will pander to the homophobic fundies..... peacebird Oct 2015 #12
Thanks for posting this. delrem Oct 2015 #18
"curiouser and curiouser" AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #33
Which ever way the winds blow or the tides flow Geronimoe Oct 2015 #8
I'm certain that all of the underemployed, middle-aged workers making minimum wage will be thrilled. Purveyor Oct 2015 #9
The polls are in! Let the pandering begin! Fuddnik Oct 2015 #10
A central pillar, is it, Ms. Clinton? Laughing Mirror Oct 2015 #11
““From one HRC to another”” by @HillaryClinton riversedge Oct 2015 #13
well she has been an lgbt advocate restorefreedom Oct 2015 #14
Without economic justice there is no justice. Scruffy1 Oct 2015 #16
You got it. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2015 #17
..... davidpdx Oct 2015 #19
Honestly, I never tire of that! n/t bvf Oct 2015 #20
... davidpdx Oct 2015 #21
I'm assuming the graphic predates bvf Oct 2015 #22
HC opposed same-sex marriage until 2013 left-of-center2012 Oct 2015 #23
big deal. That all you got. You sound like a 3rd grader riversedge Oct 2015 #24
"... standing up for discrimination" left-of-center2012 Oct 2015 #25
Nice catch! So we can assume that Hillary's for discrimination based on riveredge's analysis Jurassic Fiend Oct 2015 #27
Socialist Sanders AGAINST descrimination left-of-center2012 Oct 2015 #29
I assume you are silly. I fixed my wording. Grow up. I said Democrats which in your silly riversedge Oct 2015 #30
She addressed this in SNL skit last night 6chars Oct 2015 #34
The SCOTUS Ship Has Already Sailed - Someone, Please Tell HRC cantbeserious Oct 2015 #26
Nothing I hate kcjohn1 Oct 2015 #28
That's nice but Bernie supported full equality for lgbt people a long time ago. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #31
I was hoping she would move to the left with Bernie running lunatica Oct 2015 #32
Hillary Clinton Fumed About Changing Passports For Same-Sex Parents In 2011 geek tragedy Oct 2015 #35

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
1. So basically...
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 02:37 PM
Oct 2015

And this is how I see it...

"Your demographic matters to me now that I see you can be used to get me into the White House."

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
15. There is no money in gay rights.
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 04:17 PM
Oct 2015

So no, they don't mind at all.
We all know gay people don't care about economic issues as long as they can get married...they are fine with student debt and low paying jobs as long as they have that.


You would think people would see Sanders is for that too...and has not needed to evolve, plus is for economic equality...something that will help all of us.

 

Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
4. Evolution, Revolution.....What difference does it make?
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 02:59 PM
Oct 2015

Is there no pander floor to this woman? Does she think no one is paying attention?

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
6. Seems legit. Oh wait ...
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 03:19 PM
Oct 2015
Hillary Clinton: Opposed Pro-LGBT Changes at State Dept.



Hillary Clinton's Gay-Marriage Problem
Until 2013, she held a position that lots of Democratic voters now regard as deeply wrongheaded.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/06/hillary-clintons-gay-marriage-problem/372717/








delrem

(9,688 posts)
18. Thanks for posting this.
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 09:33 PM
Oct 2015

I can't follow the mental gymnastics that must go along with supporting Hillary Clinton.

I'll print out her short speech in the second clip. This is a the strongest statement of what Hillary Clinton considers to be eternal God given principle, echoed universally through the entire history of the human race. This is her credo, affirmed when she was 57 years old - so after an already long life.
"I believe
that marriage is
not just a bond but a sacred bond between a man and a woman.
I have had occasion in my life to defend marriage.
To stand up for marriage.
To believe in the hard work and challenge of marriage.
I take umbrage at anyone who might suggest that those of us who worry about amending the constitution are less committed to the sanctity of marriage or to the fundamental bedrock principle that it exists between a man and a woman going back into the mists of history as one of the foundational institutions of history and humanity and civilization and that its primary principal role during those millennia has been the raising and socializing of children into the society into which they are to become adults."

We're now supposed to believe that, at the age of 66 (2013) she "changed her mind" and "evolved" and is now a leader of the LGBT rights/justice movement. This person who has worked for the big banks, investment capital, war and war profiteers, all her life, and who considers it an ad hominem attack on her when that history is mentioned.
__________________

I was just saying to Alice after the tea party, maybe I shouldn't have drank that tea even though it was the best I've ever tasted and it was the most interesting group I've ever sat down with. The tea seems to be having a most peculiar effect!

Laughing Mirror

(4,185 posts)
11. A central pillar, is it, Ms. Clinton?
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 03:59 PM
Oct 2015

I heard you say something strikingly similar to us at an LGBT banquet in New York 15 years ago. You were running for Senator of New York and wanted our vote. And yes, we voted for you.

Then you told us you didn't believe marriage was for us, but you wanted to be our "partner"
-- your word.

Turned out your central pillar then was the invasion of Iraq. It was your legacy, the hallmark of your years as senator. So what kind of idiot do you take me to be, lady, hearing the same shit again from you about wonderful you are for LGBT people?

riversedge

(70,204 posts)
13. ““From one HRC to another”” by @HillaryClinton
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 04:04 PM
Oct 2015


Sherri Bearden ‏@sherrilee7 17m17 minutes ago

““From one HRC to another”” by @HillaryClinton https://medium.com/@HillaryClinton/from-one-hrc-to-another-39fe633fcb77
https://medium.com/@HillaryClinton/from-one-hrc-to-another-39fe633fcb77



https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1200/1*jrZ-DzOcv7zDtrAnOFAilA.jpeg


“From one HRC to another”


Hello, Human Rights Campaign! It’s great to be back with the HRC. There’s no one I’d rather share my initials with than you.

It’s been quite a year, hasn’t it?

It felt like all of America was out dancing in the streets this June. And that’s because of you. Because of Jim Obergefell, Edie Windsor, and all the families who took their fight all the way to the Supreme Court. It was because of leaders like Chad, JoDee Winterhof, who is here, and Joe Solmonese, who is here, and Mike Berman, who is my longtime friend and who has been a champion, all the members of the HRC boards and committees, and everyone who marched, sang, wrote briefs, sacrifice, everything you did to make marriage equality the law of the land.

Now there is a map on the wall of my campaign headquarters in Brooklyn, in a place of honor, right when you walk in. It’s called “States Where Marriage Equality Is Law.” And it’s just a plain old map of the United States. But because now every single American — no matter where you live — is free to marry whoever you love, the map is colored everywhere. And that is the way it should be. That is real progress, my friends. And the people here today deserve a lot of the credit for making it happen.

Now, you’ve helped make other progress as well — including President Obama’s executive order barring companies that do business with the federal government from discriminating against LGBT Americans. And I appreciated your support, when as Chad said, I took steps to ban discrimination at the State Department, including by extending equal benefits to the partners of diplomats.

I’m really here to say thank you for your hard work and your courage. And for insisting that what’s right is right. You’ve helped change a lot of minds, including mine. And I am personally very grateful for that.........

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
14. well she has been an lgbt advocate
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 04:15 PM
Oct 2015

for 40 years,

no wait that was bernie...

but she did sign legislation making ss legal in her state,.....

no wait that was omalley

but she did fight for lgbt rights so her very catholic state would institute marriage equality..

no wait that was chafee..

what has she done?

oh, yes i remember now....

https://m.


Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
16. Without economic justice there is no justice.
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 04:43 PM
Oct 2015

In my opinion the being unable or unwilling to change the economic trajectory the Democratic Party has substituted social issues for any kind of coherent economic policy.Why I applaud her shift, what is the right to get married worth if your living in a cardboard box? I don't think this will change any primary votes, but could play well in the general.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
22. I'm assuming the graphic predates
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:18 AM
Oct 2015

the phrase "Camp Weathervane," which I also like, but either way, cool graphic.

backatcha!

riversedge

(70,204 posts)
24. big deal. That all you got. You sound like a 3rd grader
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 02:03 PM
Oct 2015

Last edited Sun Oct 4, 2015, 03:35 PM - Edit history (1)

on the school yard! All the Democratic candidates r doing the right thing in standing up against discrimination.


I fixed my mixed up wording on edit.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
25. "... standing up for discrimination"
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 02:48 PM
Oct 2015
riversedge: "All the Democratic candidates r doing the right thing in standing up for discrimination."


I hope you mean against discrimination?
 

Jurassic Fiend

(36 posts)
27. Nice catch! So we can assume that Hillary's for discrimination based on riveredge's analysis
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 02:54 PM
Oct 2015

and since all of the DU Hillary supporters doesn't agree that Bernie's a Democrat, he is the best candidate of all available candidate based on that logic.

riversedge

(70,204 posts)
30. I assume you are silly. I fixed my wording. Grow up. I said Democrats which in your silly
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 03:38 PM
Oct 2015

post would assume Bernie is for discrimination along with all the Democratic candidates.

............Jurassic Fiend
27. Nice catch! So we can assume that Hillary's for discrimination based on riveredge's analysis

and since all of the DU Hillary supporters doesn't agree that Bernie's a Democrat, he is the best candidate of all available candidate based on that logic.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
34. She addressed this in SNL skit last night
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 05:46 PM
Oct 2015

She sort of conceded in a self-deprecating skit that her support was a little slow.

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
28. Nothing I hate
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 02:58 PM
Oct 2015

More than politicians blatantly pandering. Worse she is not really pandering to the voting public, but trying to get the financial backing of the LGBT donor class similar to Obama in '12.

Obama came through for the LGBT community. Hillary wants this community to forget 25 years record in favor of her platitudes.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
31. That's nice but Bernie supported full equality for lgbt people a long time ago.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 03:53 PM
Oct 2015
On LGBT Rights, Bernie Leads and Hillary Follows

Of course, Clinton has since evolved on LGBT rights, as many have. That's wonderful. But the problem is, she only came out in support of marriage equality after it was not politically risky to do so. In fact, by 2013 - the year Clinton announced her full support for marriage equality - Democratic support for same-sex marriage was the norm, not the exception.

On such an important moral issue that affects my life and the lives of thousands of other Americans, making decisions in this manner is rather despicable. Additionally, Clinton's habit of doing what polls deem politically popular is the reason why so many voters find her inauthentic. Now, if Clinton were the only option for the Democratic presidential nomination, I would understand why we should support her despite these flaws.

But she isn't the only option.

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, the longest-serving Independent in the history of Congress, is also running for the nomination. And unlike Clinton, his record on LGBT rights is historically excellent.

Sanders voted against DOMA, one of the few members of Congress to do so, at a time when such a stance was not politically popular. Four years after DOMA passed, Sanders helped champion Vermont's decision in 2000 to become the first state to legalize same-sex civil unions. This set a national precedent for LGBT equality achieved via legislative means. In 2009, when Vermont became the first state to allow marriage equality through legislative action rather than a court ruling, Sanders expressed his support once again. Truly, Sanders has been a real leader on LGBT rights, even if this leadership isn't recognized in the way that Clinton's current support is.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-novak/on-lgbt-rights-bernie-lea_b_7662682.html

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
32. I was hoping she would move to the left with Bernie running
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 03:54 PM
Oct 2015

Hopefully she'll move even further to the left so she can begin to resemble the electorate.

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