Woman fights off intruder with sword, medieval combat skills
Source: Portland Press Herald
INDIANAPOLIS An Indiana woman says her training in medieval combat helped her corner a home intruder.
The Indianapolis Star reports 43-year-old Karen Dolley of Indianapolis threw punches until she had the man cornered during the Thursday night break-in. She then kept him subdued with a Japanese sword she keeps near her bed.
Dolley says she learned to fight as a teenager in the Society for Creative Anachronism, a group that recreates skills of the Middle Ages. She also skates with roller derby team Naptown Roller Girls.
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Read more: http://www.pressherald.com/2015/10/12/woman-fights-intruder-sword-medieval-combat-skills/
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)shrike
(3,817 posts)Old Jim Croce song.
But seriously, I'm going to send this along to someone who used to fight with Creative Anachronism: he'll appreciate this.
niyad
(113,774 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)the solid kick to the groin. I really dont see a guy getting up from that quick enough to stop a woman from fleeing or getting something to injure the attacker more severely. All of us guys have at least accidentally been victim to it at one time or another and I know the effect it had on me!!
niyad
(113,774 posts)personally, I have always liked SING--solar plexus, instep, nose, groin.
7962
(11,841 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)IrishEyes
(3,275 posts)I have been looking at sword fighting courses. I have a Japanese sword that someone gave me as a gift.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)Not trying to be a smartass, but I've seen what I thought were decorative swords hanging in various places and they sure look like they could do some damage. Maybe just a dull edge instead of sharp?
OneCrazyDiamond
(2,032 posts)Junk swords snap. Good swords flex like a spring.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)The chrome flakes off and the metal underneath rusts or tarnishes. Sometimes it's greyish like zinc.
The edge won't stay sharp either.
Real swords are forged like spring steel. They sharpen well and hold their edge and don't rust. They're much more expensive too.
You can use a decorative sword against an attacker but if you are in actual combat it will get bent or broken.
They're good for practice and sparing.
7962
(11,841 posts)They can still be intimidating, and detour an intruder. Look for "Battle Ready". They should be heat treated and tempered to work right.
7962
(11,841 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)They have to be cleaned and oiled at least monthly to maintain their polish and edge.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)The pounds are going to drop off anyway.
Aristus
(66,509 posts)n/t
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)They were already pretty pissed that she is a woman.
Now, this is just insult to injury!
uawchild
(2,208 posts)But in all seriousness, I am glad she is OK, this was an alarmingly dangerous situation for her.
central scrutinizer
(11,666 posts)[link:https://m.
|OneCrazyDiamond
(2,032 posts)The 2nd amendment covers swords as well.
Aristus
(66,509 posts)And the NRA doesn't collect gigantic lobbying fees from blacksmiths...
OneCrazyDiamond
(2,032 posts)Rafale
(291 posts)Not sure why applauding one use of violence against violence is different. Our culture is very violent in general. It's amazing that some many people are okay with it.
Ace Rothstein
(3,196 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)The woman in the OP could have been raped or killed or both; the workers at the waffle House could certainly have been killed. At least that crook wont do it again.
uawchild
(2,208 posts)I know that I am applauding her not becoming a victim to a home intruder. I am sure things like "who are you? what are you doing in my home? get the hell out" came first before her physically defending herself and her home.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Also, I should point out, that the woman with the sword didn't injure the guy. She just pulled it out in self defense.
I'm not sure how the waffle house case is related.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)imthevicar
(811 posts)They're not just decorative, I belong to the Society for Creative Anachronism (http://www.SCA.org) too.
shrike
(3,817 posts)He and his wife loved it.
dembotoz
(16,864 posts)these were not the Renaissance fair guys...they took there stuff more serious.
impressed the hell out of me...and the kids....
would have LOVED to have joined them...wife too....she has a real thing for that time of history...family joke is that she is midEVIL but alas.... there were too many things sucking my money and the meetings were too far away
w0nderer
(1,937 posts)also sca
thrown weapons mostly though
blackspade
(10,056 posts)It's been a long time but the skills are still there.
winstars
(4,220 posts)Its just a flesh wound!!!
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)5th paragraph http://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2015/10/10/indy-woman-used-medieval-combat-training-sword-hold-intruder-until-police-arrived/73669428/
So even a person with some martial arts training would have preferred to use a gun to defend herself.
Orrex
(63,260 posts)What a missed opportunity!
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)The point that you so obviously missed is that the real victim, the woman who had her home broken into, who had years of SCA training and mock combat with swords, would rather have had a firearm to protect herself.
Orrex
(63,260 posts)My concern, which you clumsily and predictably fail to understand, pertains to the endless proliferation of the shoot-first-and-ask-no-questions mentality that's lately so popular in our fine culture. According to that mentality, the answer is Guns! Guns! Guns! and if the answer isn't Guns! Guns! Guns! then the question isn't worth asking.
I do not share the NRA's creed that an intruder automatically deserves death.
Would the situation have been better if she'd shot this dumb asshole? How do you think she'd feel if she'd killed him when she clearly didn't have to? Sure, she might have been justified, but do you think she'd be better off?
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)First, despite what the media makes you think, crime, according to DOJ numbers is at lows the country hasn't seen since the 1990's.
I have no problem with this being resolved without the criminal being seriously injured, however I'm sure she is happy that she was able to defend herself.
There are others out there who aren't young enough or strong enough to defend themselves the same way this woman was able to. What is your recommendation for them, don't resist?
Orrex
(63,260 posts)So your question is silly.
If, as you note, crime is at an all time low, then why the fuck do we need all of these guns? Or will you now quote the other NRA talking point that crume is low *because* of the guns?
As for your oher loaded question, sure. If a person can demonstrate a real need that is better served by a gun than by any other option, let them have a gun for self-defense. That doesn't mean 20 assault rifles with huge clips and armor-piercing rounds.
Also, subject them to a nationally standardized background check and require them to register on a national database. Otherwise you're not serious about responsible gun ownership.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)Oh look, the "If you don't agree with my absurd ideas, you aren't serious about responsible gun ownership" argument.
No to providing a "need" to won a gun. No a national database.
You already have a standardized background check in the NICS system for all sales that cross state lines or from FFL dealers.
With more guns in circulation then ever before, more states allowing CCW and crime at lows we the country hasn't seen in decades, that blows a gaping hole in the more guns = more crime theory.
Orrex
(63,260 posts)[font color="white"]Bracing for the hide from thin-skinned NRA parrots.[/font]
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)Orrex
(63,260 posts)And then cry when I correctly identify you as an NRA parrot.
Tell us how that hot temper of yours help makes you a responsible gun owner.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)And I find you simplistic and uninteresting.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)but I can't seem to find them on the NRA website.
Perhaps you can post a link to these "talking points"?
Or can you list them?
TIA.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)Why should we have to prove a need to exercise a enumerated right?
Again, why should we, as American citizens, have to prove a need to exercise an enumerated right?
Why shouldn't any law abiding citizen be able to own as many firearms as they want?
Armor piercing rounds?
Those are banned for civilian use many moons ago.
I support a UBC, but not registration.
The Govt. has no business nor right to know what firearms I own, and the ACLU opposes registration also on the grounds of invasion of privacy.
So you get to decide who is or who isn't serious about firearm ownership?
Ummm, no, I own numerous firearms and I'm a very responsible firearm owner.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)You're = you are
your = second person possessive pronoun
yore = those olden days, like the middle ages
You should care because making this mistake in particular reduces the effectiveness of your talking points among the 20 percent of the population who can read and write - a surprisingly influential demographic.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)You might start thinking clearly.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Is "Gee, how very condescending of you..." consistent with, "How nice for you and how little I care..."
Six of one, half a dozen of the other you see; although I certainly realize we often need to hold ourselves to a lower standard than we hold others to if our aim is to indict them for the same actions we engage in, regardless of how we may rationalize it otherwise.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I often blame others for an irrelevancy to better validate my own lack of grammar skills, too.
Renew Deal
(81,894 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)Renew Deal
(81,894 posts)I can't disagree with that.
GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)Depends how fast I get to any of those things. Or if either one of my rottweilers get to him first.
rocktivity
(44,583 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 12, 2015, 10:54 PM - Edit history (3)
You don't pull the mask off the ol' Lone Ranger.
And you don't mess around with...roller derby queens!
rocktivity
tclambert
(11,087 posts)He may become the most famous guy on cell block D.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)n/t
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 12, 2015, 06:36 PM - Edit history (1)
Hiiiii-yaaaa!
Nerd punch!
I was a former SCA member for a while in my youth. A near yard of steel is fairly convincing when it is at your neck ! Especially in the hands of one that can provide the panache and flourish.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)You'll be hating life, like this home intruder...
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Sword, gun, or any weapon is better than none.
Karen Dolley is a bad ass.