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Judi Lynn

(160,530 posts)
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 07:25 PM Oct 2015

Police defend use of Taser on city official in Texas

Source: Associated Press

Police defend use of Taser on city official in Texas
Updated 5:12 pm, Monday, October 12, 2015

PRAIRIE VIEW, Texas (AP) — Police officials in a small, predominantly black Texas college town are defending the decision to use a stun gun on a City Council member when he intervened as officers questions his friends outside his apartment.

Police say they were questioning four men outside Prairie View City Council Member Jonathan Miller's apartment about suspicious activity in the neighborhood when Miller interfered on Thursday night. Miller, at a Monday news conference, said he was vouching for his friends and telling officers they were doing nothing wrong.

"It was just concern for my friends. That's all it was, and that's all it should have been," Miller said.

. . .

Prairie View garnered attention this summer after a woman who was arrested following a routine traffic stop was found dead in jail. A medical examiner ruled Bland hanged herself July 13 at the Waller County jail, about 50 miles northwest of Houston. Bland's relatives and supporters dispute that finding. Dashcam video of the traffic stop that led to her arrest shows her interaction with a state trooper quickly turned into a confrontation.


Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Police-defend-use-of-Taser-on-city-official-in-6567120.php

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Police defend use of Taser on city official in Texas (Original Post) Judi Lynn Oct 2015 OP
Video here: muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #1
The cops warned him nine times before tazing him hack89 Oct 2015 #2
I don't see that saying you're going to assault someone 9 times means it's justified muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #3
It certainly should not come as a surprise though. Nt hack89 Oct 2015 #5
The "always do whatever a police officer tells you" mentality is bad for the future of civilization. gvstn Oct 2015 #7
But let's face it. The "you should always do" crowd is winning christx30 Oct 2015 #10
Tazing someone for no reason isn't level-headed. It's an abuse of power. Demit Oct 2015 #9
Chief didn't taze him. He is the one investigating. Nt hack89 Oct 2015 #11
Don't downplay the therapeutic value of recreational violence afforded Joe Chi Minh Oct 2015 #17
"The police chief is also AA" BumRushDaShow Oct 2015 #13
Ugly, completely unprovoked. Predictable, and it's a shame. Thanks for this video link. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2015 #14
He was in his own front yard and the police had no probable cause to question his four guests Gothmog Oct 2015 #4
That will be interesting. TexasTowelie Oct 2015 #8
The cops should be fired rockfordfile Oct 2015 #6
I personally don't get the impression that Miller was a threat when he was on his knees with his Little Tich Oct 2015 #12
Oooooh, that's when people are most dangerous: on their knees! Judi Lynn Oct 2015 #15
More recreational violence by American police. Electrocution is Joe Chi Minh Oct 2015 #16

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
1. Video here:
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 07:41 PM
Oct 2015
http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/2015/10/10/police-release-body-cam-footage-of-prairie-view-councilman-being-tased/73760818/

The man had been protesting that his friends weren't doing anything wrong (it's at night; I suppose they might have been noisy by the time some people wanted to sleep, but there doesn't seem to have been anything else it could be). He was doing this in a reasonable way, not particularly loud, or in any way physically confrontational. One police officer tells him to move away - and he does. The officer says he's 'interfering' (when he is, of course, a local resident, vouching for the presence of his friends. And a council member, for that matter). He ends up on his knees, and it's still not good enough for the police officer, who demands he puts his hands behind his back (presumably he wanted to cuff him, though there was no need or justification to). When Miller keeps his arms by his side, the officer tases him.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
2. The cops warned him nine times before tazing him
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:02 PM
Oct 2015

It was on the evening news. The police chief is also AA and seemed pretty level headed.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
3. I don't see that saying you're going to assault someone 9 times means it's justified
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:08 PM
Oct 2015

The police chief seemed an arsehole in the video, to me. I'm sure there are times in his life when he's not, but on this topic, he's very wrong.

The "always do whatever a police officer tells you" mentality is bad for the future of civilisation. Police officers should have to be reasonable and following proper procedures before that happens.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
10. But let's face it. The "you should always do" crowd is winning
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 11:13 PM
Oct 2015

right now because the cops can pretty much do anything they want and face little or no consequences. And things will continue to do that until a politician somewhere stops them.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
9. Tazing someone for no reason isn't level-headed. It's an abuse of power.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 09:55 PM
Oct 2015

Whatever color he is. It's using power in a wrong way, just because they can. You should be very nervous about that.

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
17. Don't downplay the therapeutic value of recreational violence afforded
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 09:32 AM
Oct 2015

to your police by the purveyors of the latest weaponry. All in a good cause.

Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
4. He was in his own front yard and the police had no probable cause to question his four guests
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:12 PM
Oct 2015

There will be litigation on this case and pariie view is going to owe a great deal of money

TexasTowelie

(112,171 posts)
8. That will be interesting.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 09:51 PM
Oct 2015

1) The story says that Miller was in an apartment building so how could it be his own front yard unless he owns the apartment complex?

2) Won't the recovery be limited to a maximum of $250,000 since it is a municipality being sued under the Texas Tort Claims Act?

3) Miller might become a former council member if he sues the city. The public won't be keen about a council member suing the city that he represents.

My guess is that there will be a small nuisance value settlement, but if Miller demands a five or six figure amount the insurance company will force him to sue so he will be rolling the dice hoping for favorable jury. I think that we can agree that there are plenty of bigoted potential jurors in Waller County so his likelihood of winning at trial is small.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
12. I personally don't get the impression that Miller was a threat when he was on his knees with his
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 06:48 AM
Oct 2015

back turned towards the police officer.

But I'm not a police officer either...

Judi Lynn

(160,530 posts)
15. Oooooh, that's when people are most dangerous: on their knees!
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 09:26 AM
Oct 2015

They might lunge backwards, and run off like crabs!

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