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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 09:54 AM Oct 2015

TPP deal contains some exemptions on temporary foreign workers

Source: The Globe and Mail

The Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal is reviving the debate over temporary foreign workers because side agreements would exempt international companies in Canada from requirements to offer jobs to Canadians first.

The Globe and Mail has confirmed that the deal, like Canada’s existing trade pacts, contains provisions that would make it easier for companies from TPP countries to bring temporary foreign workers to their operations in Canada. Employers from some of those countries would also be exempt from a wage floor Ottawa established in 2014 to ensure foreign workers on intracompany transfers are paid the prevailing wage for their occupation.

... United Steelworkers national director Ken Neumann predicted the deal would “open the floodgates” to foreign workers from developing countries.

“What this agreement does, it increases the access to corporations to basically pool cheap labour from countries such as Vietnam,” he said. “We’re very much concerned about what this agreement brings about, especially on the temporary-foreign worker side.”

Read more: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/tpp-deal-contains-some-exemptions-on-temporary-foreign-workers/article26817494/

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sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
1. “Canadians will benefit from the same treatment in the partner countries
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 10:05 AM
Oct 2015

as their nationals will benefit from in Canada,”

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
2. "easier for companies from TPP countries to bring temporary foreign workers"
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 10:07 AM
Oct 2015

Ah, yeah..I think we all know what "temporary" means. I seem to remember the "temporary" IT workers the corporations brought in to replace the long time workers with ...(heh, heh) "Temporary workers" that had to be trained by the people that had those same jobs for 15 years.
It's rather like saying to a child "from now on until you retire, you'll have to "Temporarily" work somewhere to receive Social Security benefits"

Geez...some old bullshit.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
13. Except it's not easier. As the article says it replicates Canada's existing trade pacts
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 01:32 PM
Oct 2015


How is this any different than their current trade agreements?

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
6. That's the ticket............................
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 10:40 AM
Oct 2015

screw everyone, attack unions, wages, health care and then say that's a "fair trade deal" for everyone---------------just great, when is Canada going to vote out there Ronald Reagan neophyte


This is just insane


Honk---------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
10. Your right...................
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 01:08 PM
Oct 2015

in this country there was senators and in the house that voted for this "deal" and then you have the head of the DNC chair at the debates voting for this "deal", with a hat on saying "America is Already Great", my question for who.
It is just absolutely amazing, what the worker is seeing and reading, from what they can get there hands on on this "deal", it's like so what from the "deal makers", what other choices do you have , not much, and the worker will get up every morning thinking, why am I working, for what purpose, when 200 corporations and twelve cronies were sitting in some back room, just thinking on how to screw everyone, apparently Canada is going to feel the full effect of the H1B program, just like the US is going through now.

Now they have to release this "classified" document, so everyone can read it, prior to this final vote, but let's not forget who helped in the "deal"

http://election.democraticunderground.com/10027102898

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1116&pid=67480

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/28753-the-trans-pacific-partnership-will-sink-the-middle-class


https://ourfuture.org/20150615/the-28-democrats-who-voted-for-fast-track



Honk--------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
18. I believe it is this Monday..........................
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 03:14 PM
Oct 2015

they are really tired of the shenanigans of this entire administration, up there, and whats really nice, take a look at the web link site------------they want people to vote---------------not like down here in the republican controlled state and federal offices --------------amazing


http://www.elections.ca/home.aspx





Honk--------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
8. And of course this would never apply to the USA. Oh wait
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 11:51 AM
Oct 2015

a minute - have any of you been to a hotel in a busy area lately. Many of those workers are here under this kind of plan already. While American workers go without jobs.

BTW when many of those foreign workers come in to work they not only are treated badly but they go home with very little profit in their pockets. The group that came to a new hotel in our area were rescued by the union and the churches working together and they were set up in housing by the company and each charged the cost of the whole house rent for a month. They were in essence slave labor. It was the old company store story all over again.

Come on Unions get the machinery up again that will bring those of us that are not members in to fight the TPP. We have to stop this.

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
19. Huh? Your comment seems like a non sequitor, please explain
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 04:01 PM
Oct 2015

What does "Canada's existing trade pacts" have to do with Democrats supporting the TPP here in the US? Explain please. Whether or not Canada has signed some crappy trade pacts doesn't mean the we should be supporting the TPP here.

Did you mistakenly repeat the same comment regardless of what my post actually said?

lark

(23,099 posts)
14. Obama made a deal with the devil.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 01:32 PM
Oct 2015

TPP will tarnish his legacy forever. Shame on him, he knows how this will hurt the American and other first world country workers and signed off on it anyway.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
20. And one would wonder now why many of us now unemployed in IT pretty much only get contract jobs!
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:01 AM
Oct 2015

... instead of finding rare opportunities for direct hires, or even contract to hire jobs now, compared to earlier times where contract jobs where just a small trickle of what was out there.

Hmm... Perhaps we're just placeholders now until either:

a) corporate lobbyists can get the congress to pass an immigration bill with a huge H-1B quota expansion rider in it like the last one had that didn't pass.

or

b) TPP passes, and corporations sue the government for limiting their profits by limiting the numbers of H-1B workers they can hire.

If either happens, then many of us even getting contract jobs might as well just count the days until these contracts get dumped and our unemployment runs out and then know that we're going to be stuck paying 10% penalties on early withdrawals on our retirement plans, or selling off our houses, cars or other remaining assets, or just saying we'll have to sell off everything else and live in the streets.

I wonder if WE might be able to sue in ISDS courts for the lost salaries we've had for the last 20-30 years? HEH? Of course the congress critters and other government slaves crafting these positions of legislation aren't going to help us out here! Maybe we need to get creative and find some way of declaring ourselves part of a corporation now while we have assets that we can use to represent ourselves at these ISDS courts. Trying to find an ISDS court that would rule for us and not those who own the court members might also be tricky too. But the DNC is blowing apart now, perhaps these courts will too at some point.

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