Clinton Shows Big Lead Over Sanders in Latest NBC/WSJ Poll

[sufrommich]

Source: NBC

Hillary Clinton has increased her lead over Bernie Sanders in the wake of the first Democratic debate, now besting the Vermont senator by at least 20 points among Democratic primary voters, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

With Vice President Joe Biden included in NBC/WSJ poll of Democratic voters, Clinton now gets the backing of 49 percent of respondents, up from 42 percent last month. Sanders has sunk from 35 percent to 29 percent support.

Biden now garners 15 percent backing, down from 17 percent last month. No other Democratic candidate received more than two percent in the poll.

When Biden, who has not yet announced a presidential run, is eliminated from the hypothetical Democratic matchup, Clinton's lead is 58 percent to Sanders' 33 percent. In September, without Joe Biden in the race, her lead over Sanders was 53 percent to 38 percent.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/clinton-shows-big-lead-over-sanders-latest-nbc-wsj-poll-n447431?cid=par-aff-newsweek-wdiv_20151020

[riversedge]

1. WSJ--> Hillary Clinton Widens Lead in Primary Race, WSJ Poll Shows

I was just going to post this but you got it first --that is fine.. But will post anyway



http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-widens-lead-in-primary-race-wsj-poll-shows-1445335201


Hillary Clinton Widens Lead in Primary Race, WSJ Poll Shows
Findings offer little encouragement for Joe Biden to enter the 2016 presidential contest


Democratic presidential candidates Sen. Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton at the end of a presidential debate in Las Vegas on Oct. 13. Photo: Joe Raedle/Getty Images
By Janet Hook


Updated Oct. 20, 2015 6:02 a.m. ET
8 COMMENTS

Hillary Clinton has widened her lead in the Democratic primary race after a strong performance in the party’s first televised debate, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds.

The poll offered little encouragement for Vice President Joe Biden as he wrestles with whether to enter the contest. For all the respect the vice president enjoys within his party, just 30% of Democratic primary voters said they would like to see him run for the presidential nomination, with 38% saying he shouldn’t run.

The survey, conducted Oct. 15-18, found Mrs. Clinton leading the primary field with 49% support, compared with 29% for Sen. Bernie Sanders, and 15% for Mr. Biden.

Without the vice president on the ballot, Mrs. Clinton’s lead over Mr. Sanders opened to 58% to 33%—a margin 10 percentage points wider than in a Journal/NBC News poll taken in late September, before the Oct. 13 Democratic debate.

Mrs. Clinton was the only Democratic candidate whose standing improved significantly in the post-debate poll........

[mhatrw]

6. Fortunately for Sanders, you have to be one of the top 1% to see your linked story.

Perhaps the WSJ should have allowed us peons to see this awesome news for their subscribers for free?

[George II]

22. NBC has the poll data too.

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/clinton-shows-big-lead-over-sanders-latest-nbc-wsj-poll-n447431

Even so, I doubt many Sanders supporters will like the numbers there.

[Tarheel_Dem]

23. "Even so, I doubt many Sanders supporters will like the numbers there."

[brooklynite]

2. I don't believe in polls.....

...I believe in poll trends. The "Hillary is crashing and burning" voices haven't been noticing that Clinton has been trending slightly upward and Sanders has been flat for the past month.

[onehandle]

4. Yeah. The 'poll trend' I see suggests she'll win 50 states.

Not the '48 or 49' that seemed likely a few weeks ago.

[stonecutter357]

3. K&R!

[smiley]

5. what a shame....

to see so many believing Hillary is the answer. But I'll continue to support Bernie Sanders through these primaries. He is IMO, the most progressive candidate we have to choose from. Bernie is our last chance for actual change.

Go Bernie! bounce: :

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

10. Yeah, I'm really disappointed at democrats.

I always thought republicans were the low-information voters. To have a chance to turn this ship around and have it blocked by the very people you THOUGHT were on your side. VERY Disappointing.

[Keep-Left]

21. because some Dems support a different person than you that makes them low-informed voters

aren't you just high and mighty?

I agree that Bernie is more progressive. I also agree that he is more in line with my views.

But I also believe he has no chance at winning a general election. I think he would get eaten up alive. His " I don't run negative adds" sounds nice but doesn't work. He will be attacked and lose by a landslide. Im not willing to risk that when Republicans control both houses.

Plus I do also like Hillary. I think she is more left than you give her credit for and I would love to see the first women president.

So even if I like Bernie more but still like Hillary I will not risk the white house. I will vote for Hillary

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

27. Vote for the nominee. That's what I will do.

But we are not in the primary yet, and I'll vote my conscience. And yes, I'm sorry if you feel insulted, but it is what it is.

[smiley]

36. I wouldn't call them low-infrormation...

but they certainly don't seem to see the situation to be as dire as you and I do.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

39. Yes, maybe that is a bit harsh.

[calguy]

19. He would be if he could win a general election, which he can't.

I learned that during the McGovern campaign. The centrists win elections, the fringe candidates make a lot of noise early on before actual votes are cast.

[coyote]

24. Yeah like that guy Jeremy Corbyn...

He could never win.

Oh wait...

[Adrahil]

38. Ya know... He's not the PM. nt

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

28. Yeah, your a real clairvoyant. To your title I say BULLSHIT!

[smiley]

37. The centrists also act like Republicans

no thanks. I'll continue to vote my conscience not matter how a particular candidate is labeled.


Go Bernie!

[ProfessorGAC]

7. How Much Of This Is Name Recognition?

Seems a little early to draw too many conclusions. Nearly everyone they would poll know who Hillary is. Fewer would know who Bernie is. The methodology is not clearly enough explained to know whether the targets of the poll are fully aware of both candidates yet.

[muriel_volestrangler]

9. Increasing her lead is unlikely to be name recognition

which would have explained her early leads, but should now be less of a factor - the debate has given a direct chance for many people to look at media coverage of Hillary and Bernie side by side.

[ProfessorGAC]

11. Good Point

Still i would like to see how they selected the stratified sample.

[upaloopa]

26. How long are you going to flog that name recognition meme?

What ten more polls maybe then Bernie will be a house hold word?

[ProfessorGAC]

40. What Are You Talking About?

I asked a question? And what wild accusation are you making? One without merit, i'm quite sure.

[bigdarryl]

8. So much for Tweety's BULLSHIT!! prediction that Sanders would surge because the media predicted

Hillary won the debate he was trying to compare what happened in 2000 when all the media pundits said Gore won the debate but polls came out later showing Bush had surged ahead of Gore.

[wordpix]

12. it's still early and most people aren't paying attn yet

Give Bernie a chance to reach more voters. But Hillary did really well at the first debate.

[KansDem]

13. Rupert Murdoch owns Wall Street Journal

'Nuff said...

[sufrommich]

14. Nate Silver gives NBC/WSJ polls an A- for accuracy.

No doubt he's got nefarious reasons for that too.

[KansDem]

15. Hmmmmm...let's see...

From Wikipedia...

Nathaniel Read "Nate" Silver (born January 13, 1978) is an American statistician and writer who analyzes baseball (see sabermetrics) and elections (see psephology). He is currently the editor-in-chief of ESPN's FiveThirtyEight blog and a Special Correspondent for ABC News. Silver first gained public recognition for developing PECOTA,[3] a system for forecasting the performance and career development of Major League Baseball players, which he sold to and then managed for Baseball Prospectus from 2003 to 2009.[4]

Baseball and elections. I'll have to see what team of multi-millionaires he predicts will when the series this year so I'll know which team to give my undying support.

In the mean time, Murdock still owns WSJ...

[StrongBad]

17. Were you even paying attention in 2008 and 2012?

[KansDem]

18. Sure, but fill me in, please, if I missed something...

[calguy]

20. Aren't you the same guy who blamed Jeff Bezos

for the WP poll numbers??

[Truprogressive85]

25. correct me if I'm wrong

23 /20 pt lead is a sizable lead

But didn't HRC not have the same poling numbers around the same time in 2008 ?

[Tarheel_Dem]

29. One H-U-G-E difference between 2008 & now.

[Truprogressive85]

30. yes

Obama is not running but are the numbers not similar ?

HRC poll number never dipped?

Shouldn't she have wider margin since its not Obama running ?

[Tarheel_Dem]

31. Oh, so your argument is about the margin now? Try 2004, that's much more analgous than 2008.

[Truprogressive85]

32. HUH

Did I not say it was a sizable lead ?

why 2004 ? Did Kerry become president
Enjoy the polls numbers for now

[Tarheel_Dem]

33. Look, I know you guys are in shock right now, but it will get better. Stop comparing BS to Barack...

Obama's 2008 campaign. BS is not a Democrat. Obama was. BS is not attracting POC. Obama did. This is the reason I say make comparisons to Howard Dean vs. John Kerry, but never mistake 2008 for what's happening now.

[Truprogressive85]

34. Shock how lol ?

Are you saying HRC is this election cycle's John Kerry ?

So anything is possible even if you are going up against Goliath

may the best candidate win

[Tarheel_Dem]

35. Well, alrighty then.