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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:57 PM Oct 2015

U.S. Said Poised to Award $80 Billion Secret Bomber Contract

Source: Bloomberg

Anthony Capaccio, Julie Johnsson
October 26, 2015 — 5:00 AM EDT

The U.S. Air Force plans an award as soon as Tuesday for the contract to develop and produce its newest bomber, defense officials said, providing the first glimpse into a secretive program to bolster the nation’s long-range strike capability.

The final hurdle in the competition between Northrop Grumman Corp. and a Boeing Co.-Lockheed Martin Corp. team was cleared Friday, when Pentagon weapons buyer Frank Kendall briefed senior Defense Department leaders on the selection, the officials said. Kendall’s role in the contract was to approve the service proceeding with the award.

The Long-Range Strike Bomber will be one of the Pentagon’s biggest weapons systems of the next decade, with a price tag of about $80 billion if all 100 aircraft sought by defense officials are built. Joining the B-2 bomber known for its radar-evading “flying wing” design, the new plane is due to enter service in the mid-2020s as the successor to the 30-year-old B-1 and the Eisenhower-era B-52.

If the long-awaited announcement proceeds as planned, it will be made Tuesday after financial markets close, with a press conference by Air Force officers and possibly Defense Secretary Ashton Carter, according to the officials, who asked not to be identified because the contract deliberations are confidential.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-26/air-force-poised-to-award-bomber-contract-tuesday-officials-say



Oh Hillary will just love 'playing with' these new toys. So many places to bomb...decisions, decisions.
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U.S. Said Poised to Award $80 Billion Secret Bomber Contract (Original Post) Purveyor Oct 2015 OP
Thank God, under a Democratic administration, we're not wasting money on schools and feeding people! villager Oct 2015 #1
That's why I always vote for the "D", indeed! Purveyor Oct 2015 #2
D is for deception Plucketeer Oct 2015 #10
Alan Grayson says the WH and republicans are in negotiations to cut SS and Medicare SammyWinstonJack Oct 2015 #20
you said it! passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #24
Because another thing Murca needs is another fucking batch of bombers. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #3
Beat me to it MuseRider Oct 2015 #4
Yeah! We need another revenue-sucking POS Plucketeer Oct 2015 #11
oh goody this will help the 99% olddots Oct 2015 #5
Why We Can't Have Nice Things, Exhibit A n/t arcane1 Oct 2015 #6
concept: our peace dividend is now 25 years overdue i-should- be-working Oct 2015 #7
80 BILLION! SoapBox Oct 2015 #8
Misplaced Hillary-bashing commentary is misplaced. eggplant Oct 2015 #9
This commentary hits the target like smart bombs down a chimney. That's what really bugs you. leveymg Oct 2015 #13
Next time, do some basic due diligence before making baseless accusations. eggplant Oct 2015 #18
Boolean loop back to the OP, much? leveymg Oct 2015 #21
I simly pointed out that the OP's commentary was misplaced. eggplant Oct 2015 #23
Will she stop it? No. former9thward Oct 2015 #29
Will who stop what? eggplant Oct 2015 #31
Remember that Iraq War Vote? Android3.14 Oct 2015 #15
See reply 18, above. n/t eggplant Oct 2015 #19
The MIC is too entrenched. joshcryer Oct 2015 #12
"Oh Hillary will just love 'playing with' these new toys." OP read the article Sunlei Oct 2015 #14
Will she stop it? No. former9thward Oct 2015 #30
$800 Million EACH TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #16
Well when the bombers we have are older then the pilots they may need replacing... EX500rider Oct 2015 #17
Missiles..... drones....fighter-delivered ordnance....? Bigmack Oct 2015 #25
"ISIS and the Taliban aren't exactly strategic bombing targets" EX500rider Oct 2015 #26
You think we're going to go to war with North Korea or China or whoever... Bigmack Oct 2015 #27
I think bombers will be part of the mix in any offensive strikes against a modern enemy, yes. EX500rider Oct 2015 #28
Since Lockheed has a lock on the fighter market Zorro Oct 2015 #22
They're getting rid of the "Bone?" Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #32
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
1. Thank God, under a Democratic administration, we're not wasting money on schools and feeding people!
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:57 PM
Oct 2015

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
10. D is for deception
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 03:58 PM
Oct 2015

Don't believe me? Go review some of the campaign rhetoric of the recent past.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
20. Alan Grayson says the WH and republicans are in negotiations to cut SS and Medicare
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 07:03 PM
Oct 2015

There is a thread in GD about it, now.

Quite disgusting if true, especially reading this.

MuseRider

(34,108 posts)
4. Beat me to it
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 03:08 PM
Oct 2015

although, the way we act around the world we might, one day we just might......

Seriously, why? We are totally backwards. When we dropped through that rabbit hole in 2000 I thought we would come out at some point. It appears we are digging the wrong way.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
11. Yeah! We need another revenue-sucking POS
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 04:03 PM
Oct 2015

like the miserable failure that the F-35 (and F-22) is. Let these contract competitors build flyable examples before we choose one. However expensive that might be, it'll be cheaper than committing to some drawings only to realize it's a piece of shit in the "flesh"!

Kinda surprised there's nothing about it being pilotless. I figured the whole of our air forces would be going that way.

 
7. concept: our peace dividend is now 25 years overdue
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 03:14 PM
Oct 2015

We're running out of post-ww2 enemies, aren't we?
Ok, boko Harum folks need to be bombed to smithereens (sarcasm)
Seriously this program is downright immoral.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
8. 80 BILLION!
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 03:17 PM
Oct 2015

Billion.

And I'm sure it will be built out of one time use materials...with no replacement parts...that as they age will go to the graveyard in Tucson.

$900 hammer anyone?

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
9. Misplaced Hillary-bashing commentary is misplaced.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 03:37 PM
Oct 2015

"Oh Hillary will just love 'playing with' these new toys. So many places to bomb...decisions, decisions."

and

"the new plane is due to enter service in the mid-2020s"

So, um, no.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
13. This commentary hits the target like smart bombs down a chimney. That's what really bugs you.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 04:22 PM
Oct 2015

And, if you're honest, you know she's more likely than the other remaining Democratic candidates to use them sometime between now and 2024.

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
23. I simly pointed out that the OP's commentary was misplaced.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:38 PM
Oct 2015

Since Hillary wouldn't be president in the mid '20s. That that the entirety of my point.

Your reply seemed to suggest that I didn't like the gist of the comment; namely, that Hillary is a warmonger. Which would suggest that I'm a Hillary supporter and thus took umbrage at the OP's commentary.

But here's the thing. I'm a firmly committed supporter of Bernie.

So I've got no fucking idea what your deal is.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
15. Remember that Iraq War Vote?
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 04:28 PM
Oct 2015

Her record on this type of shit is self evident and the comment represents a valid criticism addressing her suitability to represent our interests.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
12. The MIC is too entrenched.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 04:07 PM
Oct 2015

Wonder how many jobs this would make if spent on roads or other infrastructure.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
14. "Oh Hillary will just love 'playing with' these new toys." OP read the article
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 04:26 PM
Oct 2015

"new plane is due to enter service in the mid-2020s

EX500rider

(10,842 posts)
17. Well when the bombers we have are older then the pilots they may need replacing...
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 04:58 PM
Oct 2015

...the last B-52 rolled off the line in 1962, 53 years ago.....would anybody here feel comfortable using a airline with 50+ year old planes? Not me. Although drone bombers may be the way to go.

 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
25. Missiles..... drones....fighter-delivered ordnance....?
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 11:07 PM
Oct 2015

Any of those work? How about C-130's dumping munitions out the back?
Most of the wars these days are asymmetric clusterfucks, anyhow.
ISIS and the Taliban aren't exactly strategic bombing targets.

How about the best argument the Repubs put forward in any discussion? "We can't afford it!"

EX500rider

(10,842 posts)
26. "ISIS and the Taliban aren't exactly strategic bombing targets"
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 11:30 PM
Oct 2015

That's the classic mistake of fighting the last war.
Next one might be North Korea-China-Russia, etc...
I agree drones are probably the way to go, just bigger ones then we have now that can carry more & larger ordnance.

"We can't afford it!" is the argument that saw American pilots going up against Zeros in the Brewster Buffalo.

 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
27. You think we're going to go to war with North Korea or China or whoever...
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 11:37 PM
Oct 2015

...with bombers?

When I say we can't afford it... I mean we can't afford it like the Soviets couldn't afford the arms race with us. It killed them.

Now, we have an arms race against... ourselves.

You think 200 Chinese bombers pose a threat to our homeland?

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
22. Since Lockheed has a lock on the fighter market
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:25 PM
Oct 2015

I suspect this contract will be awarded to Northrop Grumman.

Of course there will be a protest, no matter who wins.

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