Defense Secretary Carter Says Russia, China Potentially Threaten Global Order

[Purveyor]

Source: ASSOCIATED PRESS

VALLEY, Calif. (AP) -- Defense Secretary Ash Carter on Saturday accused Russia of endangering world order, citing its incursions in Ukraine and loose talk about nuclear weapons, and said the U.S. defense establishment is searching for creative ways to deter Russian aggressive and protect U.S. allies.

In remarks at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library after eight days of travel in Asia, Carter also expressed concern about China's expanding influence and growing military might. But he reserved his stronger words for Russia.

Carter said Russia is undertaking "challenging activities" at sea, in the air, in space and in cyberspace.

"Most disturbing, Moscow's nuclear saber-rattling raises questions about Russian leaders' commitment to strategic stability, their respect for norms against the use of nuclear weapons, and whether they respect the profound caution nuclear-age leaders showed with regard to the brandishing of nuclear weapons," he said.

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CARTER_DEFENSE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-11-07-17-20-42

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Oh boo-fn-hoo, the 'west' just can't wantonly squash little countries at will anymore and some is having a 'sad'.

About time someone stepped up on put a check in place.

[newfie11]

1. Russia & China?

How many wars do we have going, how many bases and troops do we have in other countries!!!

[reorg]

20. special forces deployed in 147 countries

is what I recently read, somewhat baffled:

The special operations deployment to Syria comes at a time of expanding use of America’s most elite forces all around the world. In the fiscal year that just ended, U.S. special operations forces — Army Green Berets and Navy SEALs, among others — deployed to a record-shattering 147 countries, according to Special Operations Command (SOCOM) spokesperson Ken McGraw. That number translated into a SOF presence in 75 percent of the nations on the planet and a jump of 145 percent since the waning days of the Bush administration. On any day of the year, America’s most elite troops can be found in 70 to 90 countries.

https://theintercept.com/2015/10/30/us-to-send-special-operations-forces-to-syria/
http://www.juancole.com/2015/10/effective-shattering-countries.html

[newfie11]

25. It's better I not print what I'm thinking

Thanks for the info.

[w0nderer]

2. Does this translate to

how DARE you oppose us when we want to take over the world and the resources!!!

or is that just me

[840high]

14. ....x10+

[newfie11]

26. +infinity

As Ike said beware the MIC!

[Dont call me Shirley]

3. They threaten poppy bushes new world order.

[forest444]

16. Bingo.

That's exactly why, the many differences aside, I wished Trump well during the early months of his campaign: he almost single-handedly stopped Jeb Bush from what was supposed to be practically a coronation.

This, I think, was crucial, because once given the nomination, the Bush mafia would have stopped at nothing to see their Jebby win in November - and the consequences of a third Bush presidency would (as you know) be unthinkable.

[GeorgeGist]

4. Many of the current clusterfucks ...

are US inspired.

Certainly more than China and Russia combined.

[villager]

5. Sounds exactly like a Reagan or Bush SoD would. How "Changeful!"

[Fred Sanders]

6. With the military sucking up half of discretionary spending I am sure they can come up with a

strategy to counter those that dare to interfere with American imperialism.

[PatrickforO]

7. They threaten the neoliberal capitalist oligarchy...what HW Bush back in 1991 called

the 'New World Order.' In this happy utopia as envisioned by the Koch brothers and other more powerful billionaires, nation states are no more. We are now ruled by corporations. Football has ended and Rollerball is now the substitute for war. James Caan is captain of the Houston team...

Oh.

Got a bit carried away there...

Seriously though, TPP and TISA are the oligarchs' move to take over. Putin is kind of a loose cannon because Russia isn't a third world country that the ologarchic west can keep under their thumb with some North American 'boots on the ground.' Nor is China.

That's why they're a threat and our propaganda mouthpieces are making noises about a lack of 'commitment to strategic change.'

Well, cue up Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D-Minor and make it a really big organ...

[mpcamb]

8. Funny; what it made me think of was that Russian died-in-his-hotel guy.

He's on the outs w/ Putin, gets bumped off in a hotel room in a method that can look cardiac, sending the message like they do in Central America to opponents and the US. Russians get to say, "We did this right under your nose". Sends the message as with Orlando Letelier.
So we're stuck responding in a roundabout non diplomatic level to say, "we know what you're up to."

Like I said, it's what came to mind.

So your scenario doesn't sound that far-fetched after all.

[PatrickforO]

9. Well, at least we have Bach...

[paul ofnoclique]

10. Russia and China have a LOT of catching up to do,

because we're still #1 in causing disorder.

[Feeling the Bern]

11. China is a huge paper tiger. All bark, no bite.

[That Guy 888]

17. They're trying to get some strategic reach

nothing as ridiculous as what we spend on our military though.

[Demeter]

12. Ash ought to be in a smoky nightclub doing stand-up

His humor would be greatly appreciated there.

[bluedigger]

13. I can't dispute that they threaten US hegemony.

I expect that is what he really meant.

[daleo]

15. Basically, yup you said it best

[That Guy 888]

18. China is being overly agressive with thier artificial islands...

But I don't see Russia's moves as something we can complain about considering what we've been up to.

[newthinking]

21. Turns out that they were not the first or only ones to do this.

Multiple countries have filled in islands and put military installations there. Not saying that what China is doing is right, but there is much more to this than our media reports.

[That Guy 888]

35. Yeah, but the islands they're making are a lot closer to other peoples countries than China

It would be like us building an island in the fishing grounds that we "share" with Icelandic and Canadian fishers and saying it's American territory. The rest of the world as well as people with a sense of fair play would consider that an aggressive move at a minimum.

[bemildred]

19. Boy, I am really starting to miss Chuck Hagel. nt

[uawchild]

22. What really scares me

is that these type of comments are being made by a Democratic administration.

Seriously. WTF. Isn't defense spending already high enough?

[NYCButterfinger]

23. It seems that you don't like the military.

You have to have a military. I know some of you here want to abolish the military and have a "peaceful" world. Peace will never happen. Never. Stop living in a fantasy world, and realize it.

[bemildred]

30. We like the military fine, we just don't want them to be belligerent buffoons.

And self-interested poltroons.

[uawchild]

32. well said! n/t

[PufPuf23]

24. Ash Carter is another poor appointment by POTUS Obama.

Russia and China are different entities.

The USA and NATO have impinged on Russian territory, neighbors, and allies.

Russia has jumped into a vacuum in Syria created by the ham-handed and inconsistent policies and actions of the USA and allies in the ME. But Russia is supporting a long term ally in Syria rather being an outside aggressor seeking regime change.

China is much more stealth in world affairs gaining influence and inroads by mercantilism.

China is impinging on other nations territory and economic zones and a major world trade route in the South China Sea.

[TwilightGardener]

28. He's a neocon chickenhawk MIC stooge who was promoted beyond his abilities.

Lifelong bureaucrats do not suddenly become wise statesmen upon appointment.

[PufPuf23]

33. I agree

[coyote]

27. Global order? What global order?

Everything the U.S. has touched has turned into a major clusterfuck. If there are some new sheriffs in town, so be it. The change would be welcoming.

[lovuian]

29. The New World Order is trying to take over

and Russia and China know it.......plus survival of the fittest is in mode since climate change dangles in our future

[TwilightGardener]

31. Obvious Man is obvious.

[jwirr]

34. I thin k I have heard this before seveal times. At the age if 74 I will wait and see what us true. I

think that the biggest threat they offer is more room for our corporations to move over there for cheap labor.