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PoliticalMalcontent

(449 posts)
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 07:53 PM Nov 2015

Hillary Clinton calls for marijuana to be reclassified

Source: Politico

Hillary Clinton on Saturday called for marijuana to be reclassified from a Schedule I drug to Schedule II, citing medical research.

“I do support the use of medical marijuana,” Clinton said to a predominantly African American audience at a town hall meeting at Clafin University in Orangeburg, South Carolina. “And I think even there we need to do a lot more research so that we know exactly how we’re going to help people for whom medical marijuana provides relief.

“I want to move from Schedule 1 to Schedule 2 so researchers can research what’s the best way to use it, dosage, how does it work with other medications," she added.

The 2016 Democratic frontrunner declined to offer a position on marijuana during CNN’s Democratic presidential debate in October.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/hillary-clinton-marijuana-215623

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Hillary Clinton calls for marijuana to be reclassified (Original Post) PoliticalMalcontent Nov 2015 OP
A dollar late and a day short again! Live and Learn Nov 2015 #1
Hands Down? Where were Bernies hands? Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #8
Ummmm.... Live and Learn Nov 2015 #10
Cocaine is Schedule II billhicks76 Nov 2015 #104
And one of the best local anesthesias there is madokie Nov 2015 #150
People Incarcerated Long Term For It Daily billhicks76 Nov 2015 #163
I don't fricking care who proposes it first, get it done! wordpix Nov 2015 #154
it doesn't get it done. Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #158
Not good (and far) enough! Bernie-2016 Nov 2015 #2
Not for the controlling, Big Pharma, private prison oligarchs!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #5
She's still evolving...gotta take those baby steps passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #31
Just more pantsuit pandering! Dustlawyer Nov 2015 #157
Wow, what a bold and courageous stand tularetom Nov 2015 #3
LOL Yea, Her 'Handlers" must have finally Ferd Berfel Nov 2015 #12
yeah, stunning Locrian Nov 2015 #152
Yeah, NOT! eom cannabis_flower Nov 2015 #165
Useless. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #4
It DOES need research. Schedule one prevents that. bravenak Nov 2015 #6
I think plenty of people have researched it for many years and found Live and Learn Nov 2015 #11
I personally research it every day. I'm okay. bravenak Nov 2015 #43
Hillary would still have your ass hauled into jail though. nt Bonobo Nov 2015 #60
Not me, boo! bravenak Nov 2015 #70
Meanwhile in reality-land. AtheistCrusader Nov 2015 #114
+ 1000 nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #116
I find it suspect that folks care so much about black men being incarcerated when it comes to weed. bravenak Nov 2015 #117
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Nov 2015 #119
Since you clearly read the link I supplied, you obviously realize I cited data including how AtheistCrusader Nov 2015 #135
Native Americans. They have even worse outcomes. bravenak Nov 2015 #137
But it's an obvious, boolean true/false differentiator between Hillary and Sanders. AtheistCrusader Nov 2015 #139
That is my goal. To change her from within her group of support. bravenak Nov 2015 #140
If Hillary wins the nomination, I will of course join you. AtheistCrusader Nov 2015 #141
I'm glad. It will take a whole lot of pressure. bravenak Nov 2015 #142
Why not find or support a candidate where one does not have to change PufPuf23 Nov 2015 #156
yes thank you. n/t wildbilln864 Nov 2015 #161
Good information in that post. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #149
no human trials in the US, so patient doesn't know how much/what strain to take wordpix Nov 2015 #155
OFFS it has been researched to DEATH it needs to be legal period!!nt m-lekktor Nov 2015 #24
You already know It's legal where I am. bravenak Nov 2015 #33
It is not legal at the federal level JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #56
Feds rarely fly to Alaska to stop people from toking, Sir. bravenak Nov 2015 #57
It is still illegal, so if you piss off the Feds in some way they can nab you (think Al Capone) n/t JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #91
Lol! Like the feds are watching me! bravenak Nov 2015 #93
I agree fully with you, but I think consistency is important in the justice system of all things n/t JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #95
We have never had consistency. bravenak Nov 2015 #96
Ok, so consistency in the justice system is not worth fighting for? n/t JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #98
It is. But some only care when it comes to weed. bravenak Nov 2015 #99
And that, bravenak, is a travesty. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #101
Me too. bravenak Nov 2015 #102
If pot "needs research", than alcohol should be banned!!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #29
I would love to ban alcohol. bravenak Nov 2015 #34
Bet you would!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #37
Then I would never get an angry drunk message ever again. bravenak Nov 2015 #38
So all the angry messages HC supporters post are because they're "drunk'? darkangel218 Nov 2015 #42
Why would you extrapolate that from what I said? bravenak Nov 2015 #44
That is what you said. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #45
Of course that is not what I said. Have a nice day, ma'am. bravenak Nov 2015 #51
Really?? darkangel218 Nov 2015 #52
I never get angry drunk messages from Hillary supporters. Mostly from family. Have a nice day. bravenak Nov 2015 #55
Then you shouldnt be accusing others of that, with no basis at all. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #58
I only accuse those who I already know, from their own admissions, that they drink too much. bravenak Nov 2015 #59
What a joke!!!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #61
I will. I am a winner. Have you not noticed the changes? Things are much nicer with me here. bravenak Nov 2015 #64
A "winner" solely in your mind!!!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #66
Look around. Cya!!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #67
I am! That is why I smh at your replies. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #69
"I never spoken about messages or drunk DUrs..." Kali Nov 2015 #128
Glad to know on who's side you are, kali. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #130
:hiccup: pintobean Nov 2015 #147
An interesting statictic I learned many years ago. Duckfan Nov 2015 #146
jesus f christ. Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #63
It tastes like crap and I grew up with ten aunts and uncles. All pissy nasty abusive drunks. bravenak Nov 2015 #65
then don't drink. Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #68
That never stopped them from beating their kids, my not drinking. Never once. bravenak Nov 2015 #71
Sober people abuse others. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #74
They only did it when drunk. bravenak Nov 2015 #75
I am not asking about family. I am asking what are you trying to imply darkangel218 Nov 2015 #78
I was talking about family. bravenak Nov 2015 #79
You accused me of being drunk in PM. So I beg to differ. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #87
Did I? I remember recieving a very angry pm from you That made no sense. And then blocking you. bravenak Nov 2015 #88
I have never personally attacked you. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #105
I cannot believe I forgot to hit ignore. bravenak Nov 2015 #111
Lol!!!!!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #113
Yah, don't drink. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #72
Corona!!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #73
What about is? Answer the questions. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #76
Cold Beer is cold. Warm beer is warm. Liquor is quicker. Blah blah blah! bravenak Nov 2015 #77
Yup, you have no answers, just as I thought. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #81
I have no need to answer you. Thanks! bravenak Nov 2015 #84
Of course not. Just baseless accusations of "drunk" DUrs darkangel218 Nov 2015 #86
Whatevs. bravenak Nov 2015 #89
Lol!!!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #122
Whoever kicked this back up, must be on ignore. bravenak Nov 2015 #123
You wouldnt see kicks if you ignored me darkangel218 Nov 2015 #124
I 2 II? HRC is in the pocket of the prison industry Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #7
No shit!!!!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #14
darkangel, my dear Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #23
The ironic thing is, HC claimed she "wants the money out of politics" darkangel218 Nov 2015 #27
Once again, last in line, after everyone else was for it and it showed popular support. arcane1 Nov 2015 #9
Way too cautious I think this is personal for her hollowdweller Nov 2015 #13
I wonder why she chose to say that to a predominately AA audience? notadmblnd Nov 2015 #15
Heh passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #32
Many AAs are anti any drug. bravenak Nov 2015 #36
I know this. That is why I'm wondering why she chose to say it to AAs notadmblnd Nov 2015 #49
This may just have been a place she felt comfortable testing out her position. bravenak Nov 2015 #54
yeah yeah Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #16
Is putting Bernies position in Clintons words really LBN? edgineered Nov 2015 #17
Should I laugh or cry? Nah, I'm gonna laugh. Go Bernie! nt thereismore Nov 2015 #18
I can't laugh. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #28
I was laughing at Hillary. It's deadly serious otherwise. nt thereismore Nov 2015 #80
ummmmmm dorkzilla Nov 2015 #19
pathetic. nt m-lekktor Nov 2015 #20
What kept her? Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #21
Converting it to Schedule II is a gift to big pharma plain and simple. Kip Humphrey Nov 2015 #22
It also keeps recreational use illegal Major Nikon Nov 2015 #25
of course... gotta keep feeding the prison industrial complex! Kip Humphrey Nov 2015 #26
So people can go to jail for 2 years instead of 5 or something? jberryhill Nov 2015 #30
What a safe, corporate sponsored attitude that took her months to come to after Feeling the Bern Nov 2015 #35
I would laugh, if I wasn't crying. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #39
Like I wrote earlier. floriduck Nov 2015 #40
Cocaine is Schedule II since it's legal to use medically. Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #41
Of course he is. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #46
Marinol is a schedule 3 gwheezie Nov 2015 #85
That would be better than Schedule II Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #90
I just wonder why 2 & not 3 gwheezie Nov 2015 #103
It's easier to get a refill of a Schedule III drug. Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #108
God, she's ridiculous. AzDar Nov 2015 #47
It's a move in the right direction, but not good enough. It's not 1939 anymore. Gregorian Nov 2015 #48
Apparently, some posters here want to ban alcohol too darkangel218 Nov 2015 #50
The "Me Too" Platform Hepburn Nov 2015 #53
It's downright sickening SmittynMo Nov 2015 #83
Lame. Keep locking people up for pot and pretend you are for "reform". Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #62
Wait didn't hear another politician call for this weeks back? Phlem Nov 2015 #82
When did DUers become pro-criminalization? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #92
They do as their "master/mistress" tells them to. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #110
Apparently in some instances it's a case of "I've got mine". beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #112
It is really mind boggling. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #115
Ah, "master/mistress" - how appropriate. George II Nov 2015 #118
Why don't you go after bravenak's unwarranted accusations instead???????? darkangel218 Nov 2015 #121
Perhaps because it's not an "unwarranted accusation"? And......... George II Nov 2015 #127
Bravenak is the one who brought in the accusations darkangel218 Nov 2015 #129
Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying..... George II Nov 2015 #131
Read up. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #132
But the two sentences I repeated are unintelligible. What were you trying to say????? George II Nov 2015 #133
You understood plenty what I said. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #134
Sense? George II Nov 2015 #136
Can you not read the thread??? darkangel218 Nov 2015 #138
I couldn't make hide nor hair of it. George II Nov 2015 #162
Really??? SoapBox Nov 2015 #94
Too little, too late. n/t ms liberty Nov 2015 #97
Following Bernie's lead again? Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #100
She is trying, but shes coming in as phony. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #106
Yes, I kind of responded reflexively Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #125
LOL! Sure she does...which ever way the wind blows. She is SOOOOO transparent bowens43 Nov 2015 #107
No shit!! Nt darkangel218 Nov 2015 #109
To quote the black Lectroids in Buckaroo Banzai: AllyCat Nov 2015 #120
Not so fast. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #126
hillary continues her "yeah, me too" campaign slogan. LOL Javaman Nov 2015 #143
There she goes straddling the fence again romanic Nov 2015 #144
Hillary Clinton Duckfan Nov 2015 #145
Nobody believed her. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #148
I still remember watching Court TV years ago and one reporting polly7 Nov 2015 #159
Thankyou Bernie Sanders! marble falls Nov 2015 #151
She is infinitely better than any republican tabasco Nov 2015 #153
More federal researck??? freebrew Nov 2015 #160
While Hillary calls for marijuana to be moved to schedule II cannabis_flower Nov 2015 #164
Hillary ripping off her opponent's ideas TheFarseer Nov 2015 #166
Hillary and Bill once smelled reality olddots Nov 2015 #167

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
1. A dollar late and a day short again!
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 07:55 PM
Nov 2015

Bernie's platform beats hers hands down.

ETA: I hope no one takes that as sexist. nt

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
163. People Incarcerated Long Term For It Daily
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 11:54 PM
Nov 2015

Cannabis shouldn't be on the list of federally controlled drugs.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
154. I don't fricking care who proposes it first, get it done!
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 11:31 AM
Nov 2015

I'm a St. 4 cancer patient on mmj following conventional (harsh) treatments, surgery and chemo. I don't know how much to take since the Sched. 1 classification has prevented human trials on use of mmj for cancer. Use me as a guinea pig. I'm in my 60's and a perfect candidate to move this treatment into the mainstream for cancer. Check out these animal studies (b/c there are no human trials):

http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/hp/cannabis-pdq#section/all

Despite these animal studies and others PROVING mmj is beneficial for some cancers, there have been no human trials. It's criminal.

 

Bernie-2016

(27 posts)
2. Not good (and far) enough!
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 07:57 PM
Nov 2015

Needs to be removed completely from any scheduling. Legalize and regulate it like tobacco and alcohol.

Isn't that so hard?

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
5. Not for the controlling, Big Pharma, private prison oligarchs!!
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 07:59 PM
Nov 2015

Why would they lose control?? That wouldnt benefit them the least!

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
31. She's still evolving...gotta take those baby steps
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:52 PM
Nov 2015

As the polls change based on American's attitudes toward the weed.

What a coward. Or, she is just pandering and really does not want it legalized at all.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
157. Just more pantsuit pandering!
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 01:20 PM
Nov 2015

People have been experimenting with pot for centuries, I think we know what it does and does not do. Bernie cuts to the chase and Hillary appears to be pro legalization without ever coming down on it. It's a talent she has developed to an art form!

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. Wow, what a bold and courageous stand
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 07:57 PM
Nov 2015

Lets research the shit out of it for a few more years and maybe she can slide out of office without making a real decision.

The same kind of half assed playing to the middle compromise we have come to expect from the Clintons among us.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
4. Useless.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 07:57 PM
Nov 2015

Marijuana should be legal. Alcohol is. And sure as hell alcohol is 1000x worse than pot.

Wish she would keep up with reality. But she refuses to, for reasons well known.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
43. I personally research it every day. I'm okay.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:01 PM
Nov 2015

But some are super cautious. It's legal here and folks are still acting like we are going to have riots.
Since it's legal now, we have people trying to convince spice smokers to switch to weed. We needcomparitive research so that our children stop thinking Spice (fake weed) is a safer legal alternative. They keep ending up in the hospital, vomiting blood, some on life support. We need to get info to the public. I had to wean a young friend (19) off of Spice by using cannibis. I was so scared he was not going to make it through. Research would help. The cannibis stopped his vomiting and after two weeks he was much better. People need to know this.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
114. Meanwhile in reality-land.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:03 PM
Nov 2015
7. The war on drugs has been waged primarily in communities of color where people of color are more likely to receive higher offenses.According to the Human Rights Watch, people of color are no more likely to use or sell illegal drugs than whites, but they have higher rate of arrests. African Americans comprise 14 percent of regular drug users but are 37 percent of those arrested for drug offenses. From 1980 to 2007 about one in three of the 25.4 million adults arrested for drugs was African American.


Sanders wants to end the criminal classification of a drug that has sent hundreds of thousands of black people to jail nationwide. Hillary wants to keep that atrocity going. Hillary's position is the same as the ENTIRE republican primary field. Only Sanders has taken a progressive stance on it.


At the end of the day, Hillary would support sending YOU personally, to jail. Sanders would not. That's a fact.

http://www.alternet.org/story/154587/1_in_3_black_men_go_to_prison_the_10_most_disturbing_facts_about_racial_inequality_in_the__u.s._criminal_justice_system
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
117. I find it suspect that folks care so much about black men being incarcerated when it comes to weed.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:09 PM
Nov 2015

But never say boo about the kids as young as four being arrested and the unequal punishments that occur in our demographic from pre school to death, on every issue. But mention WEED? They get all hot and bothered and even attack BLACK PEOPLE over the issue of those selfsame blacks being punished worse, like those blacks do NOT ALREADY KNOW THAT. It seems selfish to me, like they just wanna smoke freely and care now because white kids are getting caught up in the drug war. I noticed sypmathy for heroin addicts now that it's hitting the suburbs. I guess we can thank Hoffmann for raising their awareness that they never had when scores of blacks were dying.

Response to bravenak (Reply #117)

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
135. Since you clearly read the link I supplied, you obviously realize I cited data including how
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:28 AM
Nov 2015

minority children are punished excessively/exceptionally from the earliest grade levels on up.

Since you read it and all.


I'm well aware of the disparity, and I am doing what I can to fix it. And it's not just black people. Hispanics, and other minorities are caught up in it as well. My son is Hispanic and growing up fast, so please excuse my desire to ensure the world treats him fairly. Best way to do that is make sure the world treats EVERYONE fairly. I'm not just trying to carve out a safe exception in society for my own child, I want society to be healthy from stem to stern.

Hillary opposes that. Sanders supports it. Pardon my selfishness in choosing the better option.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
139. But it's an obvious, boolean true/false differentiator between Hillary and Sanders.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:31 AM
Nov 2015

I'm glad my candidate is on the right side of this issue.


Instead of cracking jokes upthread, if you're going to support Hillary, can you at least work to change her position on this issue? As you know, it directly affects the lives of millions.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
140. That is my goal. To change her from within her group of support.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:33 AM
Nov 2015

She ignores attacks since she is used to being attacked. I can only change her by communicating with other supporters in order for us to petition her for the change we desire.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
141. If Hillary wins the nomination, I will of course join you.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:35 AM
Nov 2015

But until then, Sanders' values are more in tune with mine.

That doesn't mean we have to fight each other, either. I'm glad we are able to talk.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
142. I'm glad. It will take a whole lot of pressure.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:37 AM
Nov 2015

But, she can be moved. Slowly. It will be nice to have you there if she wins.

PufPuf23

(8,776 posts)
156. Why not find or support a candidate where one does not have to change
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:09 PM
Nov 2015

their position on issues?

Why not encourage other HRC supporters to shift their support to a candidate where you do not petition for change in position on issues?

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
155. no human trials in the US, so patient doesn't know how much/what strain to take
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 11:36 AM
Nov 2015

Big difference between a controlled human trial and various studies by different docs across the globe, studying mostly their own patients.

I am totally sold on mmj and I take it as a cancer patient due to this:

http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/hp/cannabis-pdq#section/all

But without human trials, it's all guesswork as to dosage, strains and what type of cancer will respond positively.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
33. You already know It's legal where I am.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:54 PM
Nov 2015

We still need to find out exactly how beneficial it can be so we can convince some of the other red states to allow the use. You sound pissed. You should come smoke.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
56. It is not legal at the federal level
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:17 PM
Nov 2015

Sec. Clinton's proposed stance would still allow (depending on AG discretion) people to be locked up for following the state law. Not good enough. Not by a mile.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
57. Feds rarely fly to Alaska to stop people from toking, Sir.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:19 PM
Nov 2015

You would need a massive grow operation intended for the black market for feds to come. Most do it for personal use.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
93. Lol! Like the feds are watching me!
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:04 PM
Nov 2015

He was a gangster!!! I am hella mild in comparison and do not see Feds behind every corner waiting to strike on unsuspecting tokers in their livingrooms. What are they gonna do? Slap charges on me for this joint? They do not take minor cases. Having a case over a twenty sack of weed come to their desk would probably just piss them off. And not at me, mind, at the idiot who sent such a stupid case to the feds.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
99. It is. But some only care when it comes to weed.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:19 PM
Nov 2015

For blacks, the inconsistancy in punishments starts in PRE SCHOOL.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
42. So all the angry messages HC supporters post are because they're "drunk'?
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:01 PM
Nov 2015

To juries: thats what Bravenak is saying, not me.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
45. That is what you said.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:03 PM
Nov 2015

Is it not? I never spoken about messages or drunk DUrs...

I am going by what you're saying.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
52. Really??
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:13 PM
Nov 2015
Star Member bravenak
38. Then I would never get an angry drunk message ever again.

bravenak
34. I would love to ban alcohol.
But it led to such violence last time.


But OK.

Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
146. An interesting statictic I learned many years ago.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 02:00 AM
Nov 2015

People do not realize a particular day of the year women are most vulnerable to domestic violence by others (or a significant other) from alcohol: The Super Bowl.

Never heard of a time women have been subjected to DV from someone else stoned on pot. Don't think the FBI would have that statistic listed.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
78. I am not asking about family. I am asking what are you trying to imply
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:33 PM
Nov 2015

Again, are you implying that someone has to be intoxicated to abuse someone else??????

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
87. You accused me of being drunk in PM. So I beg to differ.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:42 PM
Nov 2015

And that's not what you asserted in your first accusations.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
88. Did I? I remember recieving a very angry pm from you That made no sense. And then blocking you.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:45 PM
Nov 2015

If it makes you feel better, I plan on using my ignore function on you now. I had hoped we could be civil, but I can see that is not to be. Have a nice day.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
105. I have never personally attacked you.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:46 PM
Nov 2015

You ATTACKED me. Get your ducks in a row. For what is worth.

Wow...

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
86. Of course not. Just baseless accusations of "drunk" DUrs
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:39 PM
Nov 2015

And that you would like to "ban alcohol". Sad, really.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
7. I 2 II? HRC is in the pocket of the prison industry
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:02 PM
Nov 2015

This "drug" should not be on any schedule. It is much less harmful than cigarettes or alcohol. This is easily visible in statistics.

Bernie wants it stricken from the schedule.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
14. No shit!!!!!
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:11 PM
Nov 2015


She couldn't be more transparent than this!!!!! Holy fuck!!! While tens of thousands rot in prison over a substance which is not as bad as ALCOHOL!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF is wrong with us???? Why is she having any support??? She's pro death penalty, pro "more pot research" ( when its clear alcohol is way worse, yet legal), pro TPP, pro wall street, pro ...


:'(
 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
23. darkangel, my dear
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:31 PM
Nov 2015

I have no fathom, no more capacity to understand some of those I used to call "my fellow human beings". I no longer wonder, but now am convinced that we are in a battle for a new alignment. That would be the alignment of politics to reality.

I believe that can only be achieved by public financing of elections and federal control of federal elections across the states.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
27. The ironic thing is, HC claimed she "wants the money out of politics"
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:36 PM
Nov 2015

But that was just more lies. Why didn't she take the lead, and lead by exampe????

Like Bernie said, she talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
9. Once again, last in line, after everyone else was for it and it showed popular support.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:07 PM
Nov 2015

If she REALLY believed this, she would openly endorse the Sanders bill and call on congress to pass it.

That's what leaders do.

I won't hold my breath

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
13. Way too cautious I think this is personal for her
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:10 PM
Nov 2015

I think she's trying to respond to Sanders statements but I think that at heart she is really anti marijuana for some reason.

Always has been but then there's the line about more research like she is maybe even questioning the medical use. I sort of get the impression she might think research would prove medical MJ not real.

I would like to see less hawkishness overall. In both foreign policy and drug war from Clinton.

I'd still vote for her, but she should be careful of a GOP challenger that might be to the left of her sort of stealing some of the youth vote.

I mean it's way out but the polling looks really close between Clinton and the GOP at this point.

Is Trump to the left of Clinton or not?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/10/29/trump-wants-marijuana-legalization-decided-at-the-state-level/

She's definitely to the left of Rubio and Carson though.




notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
49. I know this. That is why I'm wondering why she chose to say it to AAs
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:07 PM
Nov 2015

White people use and advocate decriminalization and legalization of Marijuana more than any other group of people. AFAIK she's never said anything to Caucasian audiences about her views on MJ. But she chose to say this to a group of AAs instead.

I don't know, just seems to be a subtle display of her bigotry to me.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
54. This may just have been a place she felt comfortable testing out her position.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:15 PM
Nov 2015

Black people like Hillary and give her leeway. She can be moved to change her positions. I might need to think on how to move her through pressure from within. I plan on volunterring soon. Maybe she'll think on it if we get enough supporters to ask her to move in our direction.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
19. ummmmmm
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:24 PM
Nov 2015

I’ll just have to let this South Park episode stand in for any sort of response to her parroting Bernie. Not that she’s going far enough on “her" stance. It should be legal, full stop.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
21. What kept her?
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:30 PM
Nov 2015

Bernie introduced legislation last week to remove marijuana from the federal schedule.

If Bernie said he'd march Hillary off cliff, she'd probably jump off the face of El Capitan in Yosemite.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
25. It also keeps recreational use illegal
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:32 PM
Nov 2015

Which means the drug war profiteers and militarized police forces are still in business as well.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
30. So people can go to jail for 2 years instead of 5 or something?
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:50 PM
Nov 2015

Whoop-de-fucking-doo.

"so researchers can research what’s the best way to use it" - Jesus Christ, this has been around longer than beer. I think a couple thousand years of experience has pretty much demonstrated the best way to use it.

Fuck me. Let's study the best way to use alfalfa, oats, and millet, just to make sure humans haven't been doing it wrong.

Has she looked into how we might use barley, yeast, hops and water?

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
35. What a safe, corporate sponsored attitude that took her months to come to after
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:55 PM
Nov 2015

listening to Bernie.

God, she is so transparent and will say and do anything to complete the coronation that is happening in her own mind.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
39. I would laugh, if I wasn't crying.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:58 PM
Nov 2015

For all who's lives have been destroyed by the ban on marijuana!

Her hypocrisy is astonishing

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
41. Cocaine is Schedule II since it's legal to use medically.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:58 PM
Nov 2015

Making marijuana Schedule II would be a step in the right direction. But people get prosecuted for cocaine possession by the federal government, and they'd still be prosecuted for marijuana possession.

Bernie Sanders wants to unschedule marijuana completely. That is a bold move which would prevent people from being prosecuted for marijuana possession by the federal government.

Bernie Sanders is the best of the presidential candidates on marijuana policy.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
46. Of course he is.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:04 PM
Nov 2015

And he's a threat to the oligarchy. Thats why they go to their lowest to discredit and smear him!!

Simply disgusting.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
85. Marinol is a schedule 3
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:39 PM
Nov 2015

Why not reclassify thc as a schedule 3 since marinol is already used to treat several conditions.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
90. That would be better than Schedule II
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:56 PM
Nov 2015

...but the federal government could still prosecute people for having marijuana without a prescription if it were Schedule III.

If it were unscheduled, as Bernie Sanders advocates, than the federal government couldn't prosecute people for having marijuana without a prescription.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
108. It's easier to get a refill of a Schedule III drug.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:54 PM
Nov 2015

Maybe Hillary Clinton and Martin O'Malley want medical marijuana to be Schedule II so it's more difficult to get a refill. I don't know if they've given their reasons.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
50. Apparently, some posters here want to ban alcohol too
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:10 PM
Nov 2015

bravenak
34. I would love to ban alcohol.
But it led to such violence last time.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
83. It's downright sickening
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:35 PM
Nov 2015

People know exactly what she's up to. Unbelievable.

The strange part, is she's proven not to be this stupid. She's up to something.

Oh yeah, like maybe forget it all, if she gets elected.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
92. When did DUers become pro-criminalization?
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:01 PM
Nov 2015

More research?

I swear some people will parrot any right wing talking point to defend Hillary.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
112. Apparently in some instances it's a case of "I've got mine".
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:01 PM
Nov 2015

Since they won't end up doing prison time for their weed they don't care about anyone else.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
121. Why don't you go after bravenak's unwarranted accusations instead????????
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:15 PM
Nov 2015

Try that for a sec,then get back. Thank you.

George II

(67,782 posts)
127. Perhaps because it's not an "unwarranted accusation"? And.........
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:57 PM
Nov 2015

does that even remotely have anything with the OP?

Further, why do you even care about someone else's posts? Stalk much?

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
129. Bravenak is the one who brought in the accusations
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:58 PM
Nov 2015

Why don't you for the source???? And yes, and did accuse DUrs of posting "drunk".

Fact check!!!

George II

(67,782 posts)
131. Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying.....
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:09 AM
Nov 2015

"Why don't you for the source????"

"And yes, and did accuse DUrs of posting "drunk". "

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
134. You understood plenty what I said.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:21 AM
Nov 2015

Even a newbie would make sense of our exchange ( between me and Bravenak). So wtf!

George II

(67,782 posts)
136. Sense?
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:28 AM
Nov 2015

"Why don't you for the source????"

Why don't I WHAT "for the source"?

And yes, and did accuse DUrs of posting "drunk".

Who/what "did accuse DUrs"???????

Maybe Bravenak was correct?

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
138. Can you not read the thread???
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:30 AM
Nov 2015

I'm pretty certain you can.So go read it, and get back to me after.

X

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
106. She is trying, but shes coming in as phony.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:47 PM
Nov 2015

Since she doesn't want to discriminalize pot use. Shes only pitching in for appearances.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
148. Nobody believed her.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 07:16 AM
Nov 2015

Just 3 years ago Hillary was still supporting the "3 strikes" law her husband signed into law back in the 90s..

polly7

(20,582 posts)
159. I still remember watching Court TV years ago and one reporting
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 03:45 PM
Nov 2015

by ....... ugh, I can't remember the name now, showed bits of a trial where a man (who happened to be black) was sentenced to LIFE for what I thought would be about a five-year sentence.

I was completely shocked, and it made my stomach a bit sick. What a horrific, inhumane law.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
153. She is infinitely better than any republican
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:41 AM
Nov 2015

but I will have to hold my nose to vote for her if she is the nominee.

This kind of gutless "me too" pandering is disgusting.

Marijuana needs to be DECRIMINALIZED, not placed in the same category as co-fucking caine!

I will support Sanders in the primary and vote for Clinton if she is nominated. The only thing stupider than a republican is a liberal who stays home on election day or votes for some no-chance spoiler like Nader.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
160. More federal researck???
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 05:40 PM
Nov 2015

WTF?

The fucking government has studied the shit out of it. Like, 80 years or so.

They STILL can't find anything wrong with it.

DUMBASS!

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
164. While Hillary calls for marijuana to be moved to schedule II
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 12:12 AM
Nov 2015

Bernie called for it to be taken off the list of dangerous drugs entirely. It should be completely unscheduled, like alcohol and tobacco.

TheFarseer

(9,323 posts)
166. Hillary ripping off her opponent's ideas
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:55 PM
Nov 2015

So surprising. Don't be surprised if she's ripping off ideas from Ben Carson next August.

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