Weapons in San Bernardino Shootings Were Legally Obtained
Source: New York Times
The suspects in the San Bernardino shootings used semiautomatic rifles that were legally obtained despite gun laws in California that were intended to ban assault weapons and are widely regarded as among the strictest in the country.
The rifles were variants of the popular AR-15, the semiautomatic civilian version of a military M-16. They are surprisingly easy to acquire in California, though they come with limitations aimed at curbing their ability to inflict mass damage. Semiautomatic rifles, for instance, cannot have magazines that hold more than 10 bullets or can be quickly removed.
However, such limitations can be easily, if illegally, bypassed. For instance, a 10-bullet magazine can be quickly removed by pressing the tip of a loose bullet into a recessed button, allowing for a high-capacity magazine to be inserted in its place. This release feature called a bullet button is installed, legally, by gun manufacturers on rifles sold in California; the high-capacity magazine is illegal in the state.
Other restricted features, like pistol grips and folding stocks which allow greater control of the weapon while firing for a long period of time can also be added to some guns after their sale.
Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/us/weapons-in-san-bernardino-shootings-were-legally-obtained.html
Real gun restrictions are coming, gun fetishists.
The tipping point approacheth...
RandySF
(58,884 posts)Which existing law are the gun nuts going to point to and say wasn't enforced? Because there's always some obscure subsection that wasn't followed so, thus, we don't need any additional gun control measures.
They forgot to sign up with the local well regulated militia! Had they done that, this debacle never would've happened.
starroute
(12,977 posts)If genuine gun restrictions do result from this, it will be because the gun nuts suddenly realize that honest-to-gosh Islamic terrorists can acquire guns in this country as easily as your friendly neighborhood white supremacist. And that's really sad.
central scrutinizer
(11,650 posts)Led St. Ronnie Raygun to ask for gun control when he was governor
branford
(4,462 posts)had the California legal restrictions bypassed.
There's also no mention about the pipe bombs...
It doesn't help that most of the articles I've seen (not many, I admit) insist on using "assault rifle" with the implication that those AR-15s were selective fire.
Apparently it's not hard to modify AR-15s to make them fully automatic. Haven't heard about any mods.
One doesn't turn on one's own community; it's very easy to turn on members of a community one views as being in opposition. Very few things in American political or religious discourse involve building larger communities; mostly they're involved in building balkanized communities for political points or to reinforce boundaries and group membership/identity. "Us versus them" is the status quo for a lot of people, and they're always seeking new enemies and new "thems" to contrast with the all-important "us."
Not going to end well, I suspect. Such societies can't be democracies. They require Husseins, Assads, Titos, Putins to hold together; at the very best in the event of no clear majority the subjugation is voluntary, "If I can't have X then I approve of the government making sure nobody has X"--as often is the case in Russia.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)You need a machine shop and the correct skills.
It is illegal to sell any gun in the USA that can be "easily" modified to full auto.
Expecting the cops and reporters to correctly use the terms "assault weapon" vs "assault rifle" is just a waste of time.
ileus
(15,396 posts)PSPS
(13,599 posts)patsimp
(915 posts)ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)It just happens that most law-abiding, not-crazy people meet the requirements.
patsimp
(915 posts)And?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Relatively few restrictions. I except though, the perception of 'few' or 'many' rests on the denial or acceptance of sacred cows.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)List the restrictions you have found. Let's see if you have them all.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Gonna be interesting to watch.