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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:36 AM Dec 2015

Turkey dismisses 'Soviet propaganda', says trying to secure Syria border

Source: Reuters

Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu dismissed Russian allegations that Turkey was buying oil from Islamic State as "Soviet-style propaganda" on Thursday and said the NATO member was doing all it could to secure its border with Syria.

Russia's defense ministry said on Wednesday it had proof that Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan and his family were benefiting from the illegal smuggling of oil from Islamic State-held territory in Syria and Iraq. "In the Cold War period there was a Soviet propaganda machine. Every day it created different lies. Firstly they would believe them and then expect the world to believe them. These were remembered as Pravda lies and nonsense," Davutoglu said.

"This was an old tradition but it has suddenly reared its head again. Nobody attaches any value to the lies of this Soviet-style propaganda machine," he told a news conference before leaving on an official visit to Azerbaijan. Davutoglu said a rejection of Russia's claims by the United States was further evidence that Moscow was peddling a fabricated narrative.

U.S. State Department spokesman Mark Toner said on Wednesday that Washington rejected the premise that the Turkish government was in league with the militants to smuggle oil, saying it saw no evidence to support such an accusation.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-idUSKBN0TM0U320151203#rHotKx6HMtezpHxb.97

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What year is it? Bradical79 Dec 2015 #1
I make the assumption that what Russia says is most often partial, incomplete, or just made up. Igel Dec 2015 #2
 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
1. What year is it?
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:48 AM
Dec 2015

Anyway, I don't trust Russias claims generally, but from what I have heard/read of Erdogan from non-"Soviets", I wouldn't be shocked if what Russia says is true.

Igel

(35,317 posts)
2. I make the assumption that what Russia says is most often partial, incomplete, or just made up.
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 05:04 PM
Dec 2015

That doesn't mean it's not occasionally correct. It's just that it's unrelated to accuracy or lack thereof.

Ekho Moskvy was usually pretty good. Novaya Gazeta wasn't bad, but it's been straitjacketed. The tv I have access to isn't worth the bandwidth. When they reported on the results of the Ukrainian elections last year and posted a screenshot of the results that was never posted online in Ukraine but which was the screenshot the virus that infected the Ukr computers would have produced, it was pretty clear how things were swinging.

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