FBI Says It's Officially Investigating The California Mass Shooting As An Act Of Terrorism

[Purveyor]

Source: Associated Press

SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. --
The FBI says due to evidence that has been gathered they are now investigating the San Bernardino attack as an act of terrorism.

The woman who carried out the San Bernardino massacre with her husband had pledged allegiance to the Islamic State group and its leader on Facebook, a U.S. law enforcement official said Friday, providing the strongest evidence to date that the rampage may have been an extremist attack.

The official said Tashfeen Malik made her posts under an alias and deleted them before she and Syed Farook killed 14 people Wednesday at a holiday party for his co-workers. The Muslim couple were killed hours later in a fierce gunbattle with police.

Malik, 27, was a Pakistani who grew up in Saudi Arabia and came to the U.S. in 2014 on a fiance visa. Farook, a 28-year-old restaurant health inspector for the county, was born in Chicago to Pakistani parents and raised in Southern California.

Read more: http://6abc.com/news/fbi-investigating-san-bernardino-attack-as-act-of-terrorism/1109361/

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News Agency Claims 'Followers Of IS Behind US Shooting'

A news agency, which supports so-called Islamic State, has claimed that followers of the Islamist militant group were behind the mass shooting in California on Wednesday.

The Aamaq news agency posted a message on its website saying followers of IS were responsible for the attack on a social services agency which resulted in the death of 14 people.

Last updated Fri 4 Dec 2015

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-12-04/news-agency-claims-followers-of-is-behind-us-shooting/

[valerief]

1. But not the Colorado Springs slaughter. nt

[840high]

14. But not Ft. Hood?

[yeoman6987]

33. Ft Hood should have been for sure

[totodeinhere]

2. This is not surprising. And remember that President Obama from the very beginning said that it

might be terrorism. He was just being prudent and waiting for more information.

[GusBob]

3. A domestic sleeper cell of terrorists?

ISIS new twist to foment fear of terrorism and holy war: fear/suspect the Muslim couple with the baby next door? Or the quiet seems so nice coworker??????


They have to figure out what happened with this woman and what went on in Saudi Arabia

[jtuck004]

21. That whole "sleeper cell" thing is mostly hyperbole. Today's threat are people like this couple,

working, with a child, who one day become criminals. The reasons to be determined.

If we could answer how Christians in this country can twist their bible into something that tells them to bomb little children, murder pregnant women and those helping them - in other words, the very same problem, but home grown - maybe we could understand this better.

The new normal.

[ileus]

4. I thought this was 3 white guys???

[magical thyme]

6. it stopped being that on Wednesday night when they tracked them down. nt

[Elmergantry]

11. only on du

They just knew it MUST have been teabilley gun nuts

[LanternWaste]

13. Robert Dear certainly was a teabilly gun-nut. Dylan Roof, too. This time, not so much.

Robert Dear certainly was a teabilly gun-nut. Dylan Roof, too. This time, not so much.

Though I can certainly understand dramatic exasperation the dogmatic have with benign and inconsequential speculation.

[840high]

15. or a Christian nut.

[Tempest]

18. Actually, the SB Chief of Police tweeted they were looking for white males.

On the official SB PD twitter account.

[Skittles]

23. um, they ARE gun humpers

terrorists are gun humpers too

[yeoman6987]

34. Yep. So embarrassing for an intelligent group

[Trajan]

36. Occasionally, gun aficionados emerge from the Gungeon to sally forth ...

And give their fevered opinions ...

I have had enough of your opinions ...

I'm sure you're a really really nice guy (I'm being charitable there) ...

But you have got to go ... Sayonara ....

[Elmergantry]

38. Really?

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[Township75]

5. Watching some posters here insist it is work place violence and not terrorism is about to get much

More entertaining. And it has been great the last few days

[Democat]

9. They may eventually have to take another approach

Say that it was all caused by Bush or America and explain how white Christian terrorists are worse.

[philosslayer]

10. Actually, the root cause of all of this IS the Bush administration

ISIS would have never come to be without the invasion of Iraq. But you knew that already.

[FrodosPet]

27. Yes, it would. The Iraq war sped up the timetable, but was not the sole cause of militant Islam

The group may have had a different name if we had not invaded Iraq, but the core beliefs and grievances go back nearly 1400 years.

More recently, you can credit the founding of the Muslim Brotherhood, the founding of modern Israel, and the decadence of secular leaders, such as Saddam Hussein as other major spurs.

Yes, Bushco acted hastily and stupidly. People should have went to jail, not on TV. But we NEED to understand the entire picture if we want to deal with Islamic Terrorism effectively and humanely.

[MosheFeingold]

17. They can still blame the Jewish co-worker

For inciting him by being Zionist.

Or the apostate Muslim he killed for converting

Or the women for not wearing hijabs

Or serving alcohol at the party

[yellowcanine]

19. Yes they were foolish. And so are you for braying about it.

We still do not know what the motivations of these individuals were. It could turn out to be a combination of different things. The individuals might have been planning a terrorist act somewhere else and then decided at the last minute to attack this guy's workplace. Okay, so is it a terrorist act or is it work place violence if that is the case? Hmm? To quote Hillary Clinton, "What difference does it make?" Seriously. How does reveling in the fact that somebody got it wrong help to solve the problem? Answer: it doesn't.

[Throd]

22. It was jihadist terrorism. Stop parsing and splitting hairs.

[yellowcanine]

24. Why do we need the FBI to investigate? Throd just solved the case!

Congratulations Throd! You just saved the taxpayers a whole shitload of money!

[Throd]

26. You are DU's version of a climate change denier.

Keep ignoring what is so obvious if it makes you feel enlightened.

[yellowcanine]

30. Riiiight. Keep believing that if it makes you feel like a better person.

See everything in black and white much?

[cornball 24]

35. FINALLY...

someone who has the guts to call it what it is! Thank you, Throd!

[Downwinder]

25. Shooting up a Christmas party, War on Christmas?

[hrmjustin]

7. Not suprised it is terrorism. 2 terrorist attacks in a week.

[leftynyc]

8. Both coming

from religious fanatics.

[hrmjustin]

12. Yes.

[restorefreedom]

16. president trump.

we better get used to it.

he is going to exploit fear and xenophobia like we haven't seen.

[rockfordfile]

28. Nope

[restorefreedom]

31. care to elaborate? nt

[yellowcanine]

37. Donald Trump will exploit fear and xenophobia, yes. But he will never be

President. Do we need reminding that he has not yet won a single primary or caucus? Trump will not get the Republican nomination. He MIGHT get enough delegates to deny anyone else the nomination, in which case there would be a multiple ballots - a brokered convention. Trump would not win a brokered convention. Jeb Bush might. Even Mitt Romney might. But Trump definitely would not. The Republican Party would basically implode at that point. Which it would also do IF Trump were to somehow get the nomination. The latter implosion would be worse, however, because Trump would get wiped out by Clinton and also take the Republican Senate with him as well as some Republican Congressional seats.

[restorefreedom]

39. not up on the details of brokered conventions

but there is no doubt that the estab. gop does NOT want trump as the nom.

if he gets a lot of delegates through votes, and the PTB basically conspire to take it away for a romney, it is going to be one unholy mess

i do like the idea of him losing seats, but i don't have much faith in voters, esp after california.

the idea of trump stomping around accusing the gop of stealing his nomination does make me smile, though

[olddots]

20. J.Edgar lives

[mac2766]

29. So, a religious extremist was able to purchase an arsenal of weapons

legally in the US...

Then use some of those weapons to commit an act of terrorism.

Kind of sets things up for a genuine discussion on gun control.

[humbled_opinion]

40. Exactly so the solution is

What exactly? California has some of the strongest gun safety laws. California requires a waiting period and background checks. The guy purchasing them legally was not on any radar when buying the guns, so do we want to ask our Democratic Congressional reps to go further, what exactly? How about the only true method of ending gun violence, lets confiscate all firearms and ban the sale of them nationwide.... Will that work? How many congressional seats will we lose defending those standards? No one can articulate a reasonable gun control measure that would have stopped any of these senseless terror attacks. If enough is really enough the American people will ask for a repeal of the 2nd amendment..... However, it appears that the meme on this latest terror attack will become Obama is letting terrorists come to America and kill us and he has the nerve to ask us to give up our ability to protect ourselves.... will you be a sitting duck for the liberals gun suicide?

So we rant....

[mac2766]

44. My point was very simple.

I am a supporter of the 2nd amendment. I'm also a citizen who believes that the safety of my family, friends, co-workers, occasional acquaintances, and even total strangers... is more important than the 2nd amendment.

I certainly don't have the answer. I'd go even further than that by saying that few, if any, on DU have the answer - based on what I've read. My point was that serious discussion must begin on the subject of gun control or nothing will be done to stop all of the gun violence in America. Doing nothing will lead to continued gun violence.

If, by labeling the event in California as a terrorist attack starts the discussion, I'm all for it being labeled a terrorist attack. Arguing the extreme sides of the issue will not bring us together. We need to begin a grown-up, adult, discussion on the subject.

[VMA131Marine]

32. It's bizarre how little of the weaponry, and how few of the explosive devices were used.

It's as if they were planning an attack, but not the one they carried out. Perhaps they were told by their IS handler that the bigger plan was taking too long to put into action and to just attack any any random target so as to create a headline. In the end, it accomplished IS' propaganda aims just the same.

[humbled_opinion]

41. Perhaps...

Mr. Sayed was at the holiday party and some wingnut started accusing him of siding with ISIS and wanting a world wide caliphate, which then sent Mr. Sayed into a tizzy and so he decided to exact revenge and then move on to the planned target....

The FBI will figure it all out eventually..

[tjl148]

43. Apparently the wingnut was right. nt

[onehandle]

42. The F of the ATF needs to be taken over by Homeland Security.

Guns are the primary tools of terrorism in the United States.