MSNBC regrets showing IDs in Calif. shooters' home

[snooper2]

Source: washington examiner

MSNBC said Friday that the cable network regrets having shown images on live TV of material that personally identified details about relatives of the San Bernardino shooters.

"We regret that we briefly showed images of photographs and identification cards that should not have been aired without review," the network said in a statement given to the Washington Examiner.

NBC, the parent network of MSNBC, along with other media outlets, gained access to the home of the married couple who shot up a health center in San Bernardino this week.

While rummaging on live TV throughout the house, NBC reporter Kerry Sanders and his cameraman showed images that appeared to reveal the identity of people related to the shooters, including the photo of a young child. The shooters, who were killed in a stand off with police, were the parents of a six-month-old girl.



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[bkkyosemite]

1. It's a crime scene and there could have been

information on others involved. Idiots. I see possible law suit in the air.

[Mika]

7. Then why wasn't it being protected and investigators on-site?

I was agape watching it live. Even the former FBI & security talking heads were amazed that it was happening.

Can't put my finger on it ... but, something is very odd about it.

[awoke_in_2003]

17. With the way people like Trump

and the talking heads are talking, it seems eerily familiar to 1930's Germany (except Muslims this time)

[morningfog]

38. So odd. I can't explain it.

They apparently left the murder scene, with the dead bodies untouched for over 24 hours, but let reporters rummage through the house after two days, or less?

These investigations take time. They often require going back to the scene to look for something or follow a trial you didn't know existed before.

[rollin74]

13. no longer a crime scene

FBI is done with that location

[Trajan]

32. That may be

But the San Bernardino Sheriffs Department had not released it back to the family yet, according to it's statement today .. They were not done, apparently ...

[morningfog]

39. Which is what I don't understand.

Unless they were able to get some evidence that answered all the questions, but I don't even see how they knew all he questions yet.

[deminks]

2. Ms Greenspan has some 'splainin' to do, too.

Watch, it will roll off of her like water on a duck.

[bklyncowgirl]

18. She told the them not to show it

[yellowcanine]

23. So why didn't they cut the feed? Surely they can do that.

Not buying that they had to keep showing it.

[bklyncowgirl]

29. They did at that point.

Went to an interview with Lindsay Graham.

[sharp_stick]

3. There may be some charges in the future

for some reporters and a certain landlord.

[atreides1]

4. Those regrets...

...will mean absolutely nothing, when someone decides to do something to the family members...like burn down their homes, make threatening calls to their places of employment, even attack them in revenge!

Oh, well!

[jonno99]

5. Yep - "we're sorry we were stupid" will provide little comfort...nt

[Retrograde]

6. "We're sorry we were caught being stupid"

comes closer to the mark, IMHO.

[jonno99]

11. Yep - your're right. nt

[AtheistCrusader]

8. Fucking ghouls rooted through the crib.

Seriously, what is wrong with people.

[neohippie]

9. I read on another forum

I heard the landlord was paid $1000 to give the press entry to the house, not sure if true

[Nye Bevan]

10. Not MSNBC's fault. Of course reporters will rummage if they are allowed to.

It's the fault of whoever let them in.

[goldent]

24. Interesting point of view.

Why didn't I think of this when I was a teenager?

[Munificence]

25. Oh my!

This is journalism at it's lowest form and I personally hope every single one of them are prosecuted to the full extinct of whatever law(s) that they might have broken.

We deserve better.

[tabasco]

49. Ever heard of "professional ethics?"

Didn't think so.

[-none]

12. What was NBC doing with live cameras inside a fresh crime scene in the first place?

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

16. Perps are dead. No trail. No need for defense to

No need for defense to gain access to the crime scene.

[grasswire]

26. perps could have contacts in terrorist circles...

.....or some other valuable evidence.

It isn't just "defense" that needs to evaluate the home of bomb makers/shooters/apparently terrorists.

Gee.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

27. Dozens of LE have combed that residence

of every piece of paper, every piece of electronics, dusted for fingerprints everywhere, and collected DNA. They have such highly specialized equipment to do these searches that they don't even have to destroy the place as much as they use to.

It doesn't take weeks to collect all the evidence if you enough personnel and highly sophisticated techniques.

[grasswire]

28. well.....

...experts on TV today thought it very strange that there was no evidence of fingerprint dust anywhere. That was considered unusual.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

30. It is strange

Perhaps they had a reason to wipe down the place? The FBI probably wouldn't want anyone coming behind to know what proof they have obtained, I would think.

[Trajan]

34. And you know that 'every piece of evidence' has been analyzed?

Wow ... Are you a member of the investigative team?

You seem to know a lot of stuff about stuff ... In an absolute 100% way that is both amazing and phenomenal ...

Every piece of paper, and you know this for sure?

Do tell ...

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

36. Oh, for goodness' sake.

No, the stuff hasn't all been analyzed yet, but the FBI would not turn that residence over if they had not taken absolutely everything they could possibly use to investigate this crime.

Or don't you believe that?

This isn't a tv show, where an investigator will come back and find a valuable piece of evidence that was overlooked by some rookie cop.

[LisaL]

44. If FBI didn't want anybody else in the apartment, they shouldn't have

released it back to the landlord.

[Trajan]

45. Absolutely ... this should have never happened

I was simply objecting to the 100% certitude being expressed ...

[morningfog]

40. That assumes there is no one else who could possibly be charged in this.

I don't see how that could be determined yet.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

41. The crime didn't happen in the apartment.

It's not the actual crime scene.

Sure, the FBI might find fingerprints which could lead to other peoples' involvement, but fingerprints still mean nothing. They will need other proof besides fingerprints. Hard drives don't need to remain at the crime scene. Papers don't need to remain at the crime scene. And since no murder or other such crime was committed in the residence (when you would typically expect the defense to examine the scene - blood splatters, body placement, etc.) why would defense attorneys need access to the residence? It's not that kind of case.

And don't forget, even when crime scenes are preserved, evidence like weapons and computers are routinely removed but still used as evidence in court.

[morningfog]

42. The crime of murder didn't happen at the apartment.

I just don't see how it can already be determined that nothing of evidentiary value remained there.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

43. Since it's not the crime scene

I don't think "this" scene has to be preserved. Does LE normally preserve a residence if a murder is committed in a nightclub? They'll get warrants and comb through the house if they believe it is necessary, but that's all.

[MowCowWhoHow III]

14. Stay Classy MSNBC

[Judi Lynn]

15. Reporters inexplicably stampede San Bernardino shooters' home

Reporters inexplicably stampede San Bernardino shooters' home
By Michael Walsh
3 hours ago

Their exceptional access garnered a dubious response.

Onlookers were left scratching their heads when reporters stampeded the home of San Bernardino shooters Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik on Friday — grabbing personal items in a frenzy to get them on the air.

Apparently, the landlord let members of the media inside the house, providing unprecedented access so quickly after a killing spree.

Authorities have identified Farook and his wife, 27-year-old Malik, as the gunmen who opened fire during a holiday party for county employees at Inland Regional Center, a facility for persons with disabilities about 60 miles east of Los Angeles. The rampage left 14 dead and 21 injured.













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[LiberalElite]

22. This is really unseemly eom

[Docreed2003]

35. Just disgusting...

[christx30]

48. From picture #2

This just in:
Terrorists like the taste of 7-Up and Sprite. We go now to our terrorist soda expert Jack Smith. Jack, what does this revelation mean for the investigation into the shootings?
Jack: Well, Mike, this is a real eye opener for the investigation. That a Muslim extremist would purchase two competing brands of lemon soft drink suggests the depraved mind of a truly sick individual. You'll notice how the Sprite bottle is turned so the main part of the label is facing the wall. That suggests slight shame with what he is about to do. But the fact that it doesn't look like he has drank any of it shows he's fully committed to the hard work in the coming jihad. He will, indeed, obey his thirst.
Mike: illuminating as always. Thank you Jack. Coming up, hand sanitizers of ISIS. How effective are they?

[bbgrunt]

19. that was one of the most disgusting things I've ever

seen on tv. Had to take a shower after seeing it.

[alcibiades_mystery]

20. The whole episode is a fucking embarrassment

[csziggy]

21. What happened to the rights of the leaseholders?

Even if they are dead, don't their heirs get the right to control the location and retrieve their possessions before the media is allowed to rifle through the place?

[exboyfil]

31. I have asked that question a couple of times

Strange no reporters have asked the question. The lease does not end on the death of the leaseholder.

[csziggy]

33. Even if it ended because of unlawful acts, the heirs had a right to get the private property out

I looked at the California Tenant Guide - http://www.dca.ca.gov/publications/landlordbook/catenant.pdf and it seems as though the landlord has to go through all the steps up to eviction before he can take back his property. But I am not a lawyer and am not up to reading through all the stuff tonight.

[TeeYiYi]

37. This pseudo apology will ring hollow...

...until MSNBC discloses the amount of money that changed hands between them and the landlord.

TYY

[mainer]

46. Documents. Photos. ID cards. These aren't considered evidence?

Law enforcement is trying to establish connections between the shooters and ISIS, yet investigators left all sorts of documents behind, unanalyzed. Shouldn't they have been boxed up for inspection? Wouldn't you want to see whose faces were in the photos? Wouldn't you want to find out if the ID cards are valid or fraudulent? They're finished combing the place in only three days?

This sounds like incredibly sloppy investigative work to me.

[Sunlei]

47. The Landlord sold out to the Press. everything should have been packed out by the authorities.

Why didn't the authorities just pack everything into some storage. Or wait longer, stuff could still be hidden in walls or evidence bits in carpeting/floors ect.