Donald Trump ends speech after 10 protest interruptions
Source: MSNBC Rachel Maddow Show
Rachel Maddow shows Republican front-runner Donald Trump being interrupted repeatedly while speaking at a rally in Raleigh, North Carolina, abruptly ending the speech after the tenth interruption.
Read more: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-interrupted-10-times--ends-speech-579972163788
Rachel reported this just a few minutes ago. Donald Trump was hounded off the stage tonight in Raleigh, NC. See link for video footage.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)After just now seeing the video, I'm suddenly getting page not found....
NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)and hanging out in DU!
Hey - we should get our Triangle area bunch together one of these days!
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Docreed2003
(16,862 posts)barbtries
(28,798 posts)Just tell me when and where 😃
Duval
(4,280 posts)wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)and only strengthens him and makes the protesters look immature and stupid.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)lose like a champ. When you shout someone down then you appear to be a jerk. People and his supporters will become even more dedicated to him. The ones who are on the fence will not want to identify with the disrupter's. You lose when you act like a jerk and that is how you will be perceived.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)I guess most of that wasn't directly at one person's speech/rally, but I think protesting is a good thing, especially when it is confronting people like him.
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wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)and not shouting someone down. think gandhi
NCjack
(10,279 posts)he speaks, he is most unscripted and comes off like an idiotic jerk. He looks much better when he is prevented from speaking.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)He gets enough air time.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Always shout him down, Always throw him out.
If it ever gets to the point of him winning, then shout louder and riot. I say do ANYTHING it takes to prevent him in power.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)SHould be easy to do.
Shut him down. A good deal of the people were there for the circus anyway.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)check it out
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)His supporters love that he is a jerk. They appreciate jerks IMO.
trillion
(1,859 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Last edited Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:51 AM - Edit history (1)
Ones on the fence? Give me a beak...The a sum/total situation.. Either youre with this guy or your not..
We have just got to hope that the majority of Americans will be repulsed by his antics.. Theres no middle ground here as you are assuming..
AnotherDreamWeaver
(2,850 posts)I don't think you were really thinking that...
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)trillion
(1,859 posts)fascist lunatic he sounds - Carson and Fiorina too.
louis-t
(23,295 posts)in 2010.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Nonviolent protest is a time-honored tradition in this country. Especially when what we're seeing is a raving nutjob in a pit of gladiators. The audience of such a grotesque spectacle should have the right to boo. Let's not pretend this is really a campaign speech.
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)and is form of violent protest. non violent protest was a sit in at a lunch counter. yelling someone off a stage is not nonviolent pfotest
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)In this country, using words instead of a gun is super-polite.
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)but a form of censorship and that is how it will be perceived.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)to think that Trump is being censored.
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)you are definitely censoring him. One thing i know is you have never been in sales. The overall perception of your actions has to be your concern. So the people in the auditorium and most of the people who see it on TV see it as 10 jerks yelling someone off the stage. the result are people like you feel self satisfied. The trouble is you are already convinced. Everyone else thinks they are jerks.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)the Truth lurks...
And that's what the protestors are speaking.
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)come across well to average people. the only people who support the protesters are people like you and you are already convinced.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Last edited Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:30 AM - Edit history (1)
as marketers often do. Many average people have sense enough to think for themselves without the spin you value so highly.
I consider myself among the "average people."
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)I just restarted my business. i started a discussion with an old contact(CIO) about my business. He ended up asking me if I knew anyone located in NYC to sell for his company. My wife said did you ever sell him anything and I said no. She said to me "why would they hire you? and I told her I always kept my cool with him. guess what they are flying me in for the job. now it will only be on a contract because I want it that way. I am one of the best in the country at what I do and at times I would love to tell people off but I shut my mouth and eventually win.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)There are times when being silent is stupid and the bulldozer runs over you.
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I'm the Queen of England.
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)only if u knew. I have a rolodex that people would die for. I do something that people find incredibly hard to do and 98%of the people hate to do. If you want to start a business do what everyone hates to do and there is money in it.
bvf
(6,604 posts)who doesn't perceive him/herself that way.
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)and there are very few who do it well. I have been offered good money to teach what I do by some major companies. If i could tell you the deals I have found it would blow your mind. I have been part of many million dollar deals. There are many better sales people than me but very few better cold callers than me. I can point to twenty top sales people who all say I am the best they have ever seen.
bvf
(6,604 posts)wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)quite the challenge. then tell me what is it like.
I also make some pretty good money. a company is flying me to NYC just to meet me. As Ali said "it ain't bragging if you do it" I'll put it this way.I pass the social security cap every single year.
bvf
(6,604 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 8, 2015, 03:06 AM - Edit history (1)
four of the five largest IT industry mergers in the 1980s, and proved the Goldbach conjecture during bathroom breaks.
Steve Jobs used to call me for advice on GUI design.
My second villa in Tuscany has a master bedroom closet larger than the Sistine Chapel.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)Delver Rootnose
(250 posts)...sitting at a lunch counter is violence. Just like not allowing some 'proper' to use the counter the people arnt letting trump use the mic unopposed.
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)in 1970 and 1971 against the vietnam war and we didn't have temper tantrums and that is how we influenced the country to oppose the war.
Delver Rootnose
(250 posts)I bet the old people of your youth thought you were throwing a temper tantrum just like you in your age think the current youth are doing it wrong.
Why don't you go show them how it is done properly.
Oh and the convention in Chicago was oh so orderly.
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)and we got Nixon. That really worked well.
Delver Rootnose
(250 posts)...nothing to do with it, or the brokered convention.
You're the expert show them how it is done. Plan out an acceptable protest that meets your sensibilities. Just don't whine when it gets ignored by the US media or criticized by others as 'too extreme'
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)against the war was 1965-66. By 1970-71, Tricky Dick had begun the process of Vietnamization, withdrawing U.S. combat troops and instead supplying the puppet forces in the South. IOW, your marching influenced exactly no one. Props to those like Norman Morrison who protested at a time when the protests actually counted.
trillion
(1,859 posts)little man.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)dickthegrouch
(3,174 posts)There's hope for the South, yet.
Only SC can be considered more conservative than NC.
dsc
(52,162 posts)NC went for Obama in 08, was the closest contested state he lost in 12, and our Senator came the closest to reelection in the horrible year that was 2014. We also have a better than even shot at defeating McCrory in 16. We are easily closer politically to Virginia than we are to Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, or Tennessee.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)Until Art Pope bought the government, the state was quite liberal.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)Kelvin, the liberal state of North Carolina is also the state that inflicted Jesse Helms on the Senate for thirty years.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)but until recently, the other senator, most reps and the state government were Dems.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)NC's history is actually relatively liberal. The state figured out basing their entire economy on tobacco wasn't going to work out....in the 1950s. And then the government set about doing something to fix that.
So they started building up infrastructure to get other industries here. For example, Charlotte has a massive banking industry - it's where banks send work when New York got too expensive.
Between Raleigh and Durham, the state set up a lot of infrastructure and tax incentives for high-tech companies. And it has been massively successful. Three major universities in the area have extremely good science programs to supply highly educated workers, and all the various incentives caused a massive bloom of "tech" jobs starting in the 1980s.
Today, if I go to a job search site, the only place I can find more job openings for "tech" jobs is in Silicon Valley.
The result of that highly-educated population, as well as the very large number of people who relocated here, has turned Raleigh quite "blue".
"neon blue"-- I like that
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)ETA: Apparently, it's argon blue.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)New "neon" signs don't use neon at all - the lights are fluorescent tubes with internal coatings that produce any color you want.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)large Hispanic population in outlying areas as well. I figured he would face interruptions.
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)- without his security hurting them ..
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)I lived in Raleigh for many years...happy to see tRump forced off the stage...now he can go back to his jet and tweet even more ridiculous lies...
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Thespian2
(2,741 posts)I come to Raleigh almost every year...one of my dearest friends, Jon, lives there...
retrowire
(10,345 posts)We may be represented as a red state, but truly we're purple.
GO NC!!!
Mira
(22,380 posts)I could not be more proud
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)lancer78
(1,495 posts)This will do nothing but boost his poll numbers.
LS_Editor
(893 posts)I thought he would never be like Bernie Sanders and allow protesters to derail him speaking.
Shocking that was bullshit. Shocking.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)What if it was Hillary speaking, and was shouted down by Trump supporters, what say you then?
When you shout down those you disagree with, you have lost any moral authority you might have had and have lowered yourself to being a bully.
Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)Trump is one of them.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)be shouted down at every turn, his supporters must be shunned and shamed at every turn.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Trump deserves none. He's a monster created by the corporate Rethuglicons, much to their dismay.
Kurska
(5,739 posts)Should be determined by whether or not you respect them.
Gotcha.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)--but his speech was marked by what I feel is justified nonviolent protest.
No, I don't think you give dangerous demagogues the right to grandstand and foment egregious lies nonstop.
Isn't it obvious the comparison to another unmentionable historical figure who was shielded by conservative views such as yours?
Kurska
(5,739 posts)Obviously you're referencing Hitler. What you absolutely fail to understand is that Hitler's speeches were constantly disrupted before his rise to power, especially at the beginning of his political career. Nazi rallies often descended into mad scrums of battles between Nazis and communists. It did nothing to stop him, If anything it made him more popular with the German People "See these people are afraid of the truth, they won't even let me speak". The reason the Nazi's rose to power was not for want of people willing to shout at them.
But yes, you're displaying a huge amount of hypocrisy and bias when you treat a political action different when it is pointed at someone you do or do not like. Personally, I think it is immature and asinine whoever it is pointed at and ultimately probably only helps the side you are yelling at (most people view such disrupters as idiots).
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)So go ahead and call me all kinds of names. Doesn't matter. I stand with the protestors. And I always will. And you always won't.
Kurska
(5,739 posts)You stand with the protesters when they are on your side. If others did the same thing to Hillary or Bernie you'd be howling with outrage. Again, as you admit, not out any logic or reasoning, but via a pure sense of tribalism and backing "our guy".
I personally think a good message can be ruined by the wrong tactics, but alas we seem to be approaching a critical mass of the idea of "just do something, who cares if it is counterproductive".
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)--even if they were protesting my candidate Sanders at a rally. Of course they will be removed by police, as they were in this case. But I think it's OK all around as long as it is not violent.
No civil protest of Trump is "counterproductive"--that's a quaint way of looking at what is happening. We must speak out against him and everything he stands for.
Kurska
(5,739 posts)Trying to shout someone down in a public forum is counterproductive, it makes you look like a monster to their partisans, a rude person who can't show basic respect to a neutral observer and a "hero" to your own partisans.
It does nothing to expand your point of view, it is pure red meat thrown to people who already agree with you while alienating anyone who isn't strongly for or against.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Trump supporters obviously LIKE rude persons! And monsters.
Kurska
(5,739 posts)Better cede the moral high ground and be just as rude back.
Thats how you win a debate for sure.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)the comparison is obvious.
Kurska
(5,739 posts)The fact you think Nazi rallies and speeches weren't disrupted all the time before the rise of the Nazis to power is proof enough.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)we can prevent another insane maniac from rising to power.
Kurska
(5,739 posts)You don't actually have a clear understanding of history, as two people have just explained to you now.
If bothered to actually read the paragraph I typed you'd understand why.
Here I'll bold it.
Obviously you're referencing Hitler. What you absolutely fail to understand is that Hitler's speeches were constantly disrupted before his rise to power, especially at the beginning of his political career. Nazi rallies often descended into mad scrums of battles between Nazis and communists. It did nothing to stop him, If anything it made him more popular with the German People. He would say "See these people are afraid of the truth, they won't even let me speak" and people would cheer. The reason the Nazi's rose to power was not for want of people willing to shout at them.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Kurska
(5,739 posts)Probably knew nothing on those subjects for a reason.
Perhaps it is ignoring someone when they try to educate them.
Who knows!
Neat song though.
840high
(17,196 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)hope she is allowed to speak. What I want for my candidate is what I want for all.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)--and still they are speaking and are heard.
840high
(17,196 posts)will continue to speak, too.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)The loon has not been silenced in any way. The point is that some who feel deeply have expressed visible opposition to his insane ravings. Solidarity. Surely you realize that most "liberal" Americans have no political voice.
Trump insults America by his candidacy in myriad ways. He suffers from delusions of grandeur, & inflicts himself on a weakened, vulnerable populace.
840high
(17,196 posts)ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)By protesting like this, these screamers will make Trump's backers love him even more. Which should (cross-my-fingers) get him the nomination.
I mean, normally, I call stuff like this left-wingnut counter-productivity, but here they're doing us a great favor, even if it's almost certainly for the wrong reasons.
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
daleanime
(17,796 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)----
RALEIGH, North Carolina -- GOP frontrunner Donald Trump abruptly ended his rally in his first visit to the state after his speech was interrupted at least 10 times by protesters - many of them chanting "Black Lives Matter!" as they were escorted out.
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Trump maintained his composure initially. After the first protester, a woman, interrupted his speech, Trump told the crowd, "Make sure that young lady is in beautiful shape."
However, soon enough, the rally had a different feel as crowd members, campaign staff and press alike were actively on the lookout for more protesters. Trump blamed the media for giving the protesters coverage.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Donald Trump rally interrupted repeatedly by protesters
---- excerpt:
According to Wake County Sheriff Donnie Harrison, the authorities removed about 25 protesters from the event. Western Wake Fire Rescue Capt. Brian Egan said the capacity crowd numbered about 7,800.
While most of the protesters were peacefully removed, on two occasions apparent veterans wearing fatigues were observed forcefully manhandling protesters in an attempt to remove them, until authorities took over.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)world wide wally
(21,744 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,901 posts)It is the image he covets most of all since his supporters see themselves as disenfranchised, disrespected patriots. He is every bit as dangerous as anyone has suggested. He played the situation last night to his audience well.
However, those who think quiet respectful protest will better silence him have no idea what he is up to. It did not work against Bush either.
Both Bush and Trump ignored the press when it suited them and used reporters as ideological punching bags. The press is aiding Trump by its passivity in dealing with all kinds of political issues. It also makes the mistake of presenting him as a genuine alternative. They would do much better to emphasize his hollow nature and his real world failures as a leader and so-called entrepreneur. Asking how he will pay for all that he proposes would do for a start.
His crowds are loud and angry. The public he aims for is not interested in truth or information or anything they actually must think about. They hear him enunciate their fears loudly and offer the kind of emotionally charged responses that bullies in schoolyards have used. They howl for vengeance against all the hurts they feel and aim that anger at anything or anyone who is "other" to them. They are not rational, and they are very driven.
The people who interrupted him last night were right to do so. He has no right to denigrate fellow Americans and North Carolina citizens as he did. We have a diverse population in North Carolina, although the Wonder Bread world shown in most local news and advertising pretends otherwise. We are far more fair minded than Trump's absolutist dogma implies.
Trump is a foul mouthed beast and a mean asshole which he proudly displayed last night. We do not benefit by propping up his false narrative and his arrogant disrespect.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Said so well.
Paladin
(28,264 posts)Republicans take advantage of our decent tendencies, every chance they get; they depend on liberals caving in because of our better natures, and thus they triumph over us. Over and over and over again.
This is no way to win a political battle. If you're not willing to get down in the ditches the conservatives created and slug it out with them, make way for those of us who are ready to fight. How much will your good conduct medals help you, under a Trump/Cruz regime?
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)I agree with you that the time for nicey nice is over. As long as its civil disobedience, I believe in it.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Published on Dec 4, 2015
The Stump for Trump girls, Lynnette 'Diamond' Hardaway and Rochelle 'Silk' Richardson go on stage supporting Trump. Trump tells black online hosts endorsing him, Do a little routine.
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)Gothmog
(145,313 posts)Faux pas
(14,681 posts)can dish it out, but can't take it.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)trillion
(1,859 posts)mmonk
(52,589 posts)and Internet and wondered how it went. I figured my hometown would give him hell. I wasn't disappointed I hear.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Nailzberg
(4,610 posts)adigal
(7,581 posts)Too bad he got to talk yesterday, and the fascists there cheered and cheered.