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marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:06 PM Dec 2015

Donald Trump ends speech after 10 protest interruptions

Source: MSNBC Rachel Maddow Show

Rachel Maddow shows Republican front-runner Donald Trump being interrupted repeatedly while speaking at a rally in Raleigh, North Carolina, abruptly ending the speech after the tenth interruption.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-interrupted-10-times--ends-speech-579972163788



Rachel reported this just a few minutes ago. Donald Trump was hounded off the stage tonight in Raleigh, NC. See link for video footage.
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Donald Trump ends speech after 10 protest interruptions (Original Post) marions ghost Dec 2015 OP
I love it. jalan48 Dec 2015 #1
Good, as he should be. uppityperson Dec 2015 #2
I thought I smelled something awful outside tonight! NRaleighLiberal Dec 2015 #3
Are you able to access the MSNBC page? marions ghost Dec 2015 #6
no interest in finding or watching it - life's too short. Listening to the Bruins NRaleighLiberal Dec 2015 #7
I understand... marions ghost Dec 2015 #10
At least the B's have tied it up! Docreed2003 Dec 2015 #14
I would like that barbtries Dec 2015 #108
Whew! So glad we stayed in! lol Duval Dec 2015 #99
this is foolish wilt the stilt Dec 2015 #4
Why? cui bono Dec 2015 #8
because we have a saying in sales wilt the stilt Dec 2015 #13
So how do you think civil rights would have fared without protests? cui bono Dec 2015 #15
the civil rights protest were civil disobedience wilt the stilt Dec 2015 #17
I think that Trump's statements harm him more than rudely interrupting him. When NCjack Dec 2015 #22
Good point marions ghost Dec 2015 #28
Say that to his numbers. pssh.. retrowire Dec 2015 #32
If only takes ten people yelling to end his events, We need 10 in every city. morningfog Dec 2015 #34
Do you know the history of Gandhi? marions ghost Dec 2015 #26
Seriously, one could out-jerk Trump? marions ghost Dec 2015 #20
They are jerks, IMO. trillion Dec 2015 #112
So disrupting a Trump Speach and you’re a Jerk? busterbrown Dec 2015 #50
"We have just got to hope that the majority of Americans will not be repulsed by his antics." ???? AnotherDreamWeaver Dec 2015 #63
Yea, I screwed that one up.. Thanks...editing now.. busterbrown Dec 2015 #67
Gettin older by the moment will revise, thanks..n/t busterbrown Dec 2015 #114
agreed. I stand with the repulsed. Gotta love how the more press time they give him, the even more trillion Dec 2015 #113
Gee, the teabaggers did real well shouting down townhalls louis-t Dec 2015 #102
Making him leave the stage strengthens him how? marions ghost Dec 2015 #16
this is not non violent protest wilt the stilt Dec 2015 #19
Pfffft marions ghost Dec 2015 #23
this is not using words wilt the stilt Dec 2015 #25
Laughable marions ghost Dec 2015 #29
if you shout someone wilt the stilt Dec 2015 #33
Somewhere below the superficial level of "perceptions" marions ghost Dec 2015 #35
and do you really think the protesters wilt the stilt Dec 2015 #37
You underestimate the "average people"... marions ghost Dec 2015 #39
Let me give you an example of winning by losing gracefully wilt the stilt Dec 2015 #42
Far-fetched analogy... marions ghost Dec 2015 #44
". . . I am one of the best in the country at what I do . . . " OldRedneck Dec 2015 #45
except it is true wilt the stilt Dec 2015 #48
I've yet to meet anyone who works in sales bvf Dec 2015 #52
what i do is cold call wilt the stilt Dec 2015 #120
I won the Nobel Prize for Indulgence in 2003. bvf Dec 2015 #121
ever try cold calling wilt the stilt Dec 2015 #122
I personally negotiated bvf Dec 2015 #123
Nonsense. bowens43 Dec 2015 #31
By you definition .... Delver Rootnose Dec 2015 #36
I marched on Washington wilt the stilt Dec 2015 #38
It's all a point of view... Delver Rootnose Dec 2015 #40
and it cost the democrats the 1968 election wilt the stilt Dec 2015 #43
And the candidate had..... Delver Rootnose Dec 2015 #46
sorry to burst your bubble, but the time to be marching KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #115
I think it makes it look like the protestors won and like Donald Trump is a temper tantrum throwing trillion Dec 2015 #111
Please correct link format error FlatBaroque Dec 2015 #5
Done, thank you marions ghost Dec 2015 #11
In Raleigh, NC? dickthegrouch Dec 2015 #9
I think that is a bit of an overstatement of how conservative NC is dsc Dec 2015 #18
Ummm, no Kelvin Mace Dec 2015 #49
Parts of it were, anyway jmowreader Dec 2015 #55
Agreed, Kelvin Mace Dec 2015 #58
Yeah....Raleigh's neon blue. jeff47 Dec 2015 #53
^^^ marions ghost Dec 2015 #54
More like "electric blue." Neon is VERY red. jmowreader Dec 2015 #56
Great. Now I gotta go look up what element glows blue in a "neon" tube. jeff47 Dec 2015 #57
Either argon or xenon jmowreader Dec 2015 #61
The triangle is pretty blue. We have a mmonk Dec 2015 #119
Hope folks can keep it up Jarqui Dec 2015 #12
K & R !!!! Thespian2 Dec 2015 #21
Raleigh rocks these days marions ghost Dec 2015 #24
Glad to hear it!!! Thespian2 Dec 2015 #30
I am now proud of my home state. retrowire Dec 2015 #27
Living in NC Mira Dec 2015 #41
Fantastic! NurseJackie Dec 2015 #47
So much for him claiming he's indestructible. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #51
we all interpret history differently olddots Dec 2015 #59
unfortunately lancer78 Dec 2015 #60
What a baby. LS_Editor Dec 2015 #62
To all of you applauding this: Would you feel the same if it was done to a Democratic candidate? Ikonoklast Dec 2015 #64
Some people deserve to be shouted down. Flying Squirrel Dec 2015 #68
Trump, like Hitler, is really sui generis. IOW, he must KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #116
Hillary deserves some respect marions ghost Dec 2015 #69
So whether someone should be allowed to speak Kurska Dec 2015 #73
He got a chance to speak--he spoke for 30 minutes marions ghost Dec 2015 #74
Way to display your historical ignornance Kurska Dec 2015 #75
I view the disrupters as brave souls who speak for many others marions ghost Dec 2015 #78
Hah, actually you admitted the opposite. Kurska Dec 2015 #79
I would not stop nonviolent protestors marions ghost Dec 2015 #81
What are the police doing besides stopping it? Kurska Dec 2015 #83
"a rude person" --ha ha marions ghost Dec 2015 #85
My opponent is rude? Kurska Dec 2015 #87
+Infinity! - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #117
You need to re-read your history books. 840high Dec 2015 #80
No need marions ghost Dec 2015 #82
Except your comparison and the implications are nothing resembling actual history. Kurska Dec 2015 #84
Maybe with the hindsight of history marions ghost Dec 2015 #86
Ya know.. except.. Kurska Dec 2015 #88
ZZZZZZZZ marions ghost Dec 2015 #89
Those who wish to cite subjects they know nothing on. Kurska Dec 2015 #90
Stay unimformed. 840high Dec 2015 #91
"Stay Unimformed" marions ghost Dec 2015 #97
I don't respect Hillary but would 840high Dec 2015 #93
She and Sanders have both been heckled marions ghost Dec 2015 #96
What's your point? Trump 840high Dec 2015 #104
That's my point marions ghost Dec 2015 #106
Thank you. +10 840high Dec 2015 #77
COOL! -- The one time I've EVER been in favor of idiot-disruptors ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #65
Good... daleanime Dec 2015 #66
CBS is covering it now marions ghost Dec 2015 #70
CNN Coverage of this story out of Raleigh: marions ghost Dec 2015 #71
New York Times reporting: marions ghost Dec 2015 #72
The Hill's video is good: marions ghost Dec 2015 #76
Its a start world wide wally Dec 2015 #92
Trump thrives on playing the "underdog" publicly. Ford_Prefect Dec 2015 #94
THANK YOU ^^^^^^ marions ghost Dec 2015 #95
Same old story with some of you people: Liberals have to behave nice, right-wingers don't. Paladin Dec 2015 #105
You meant to address this to others in this thread IMO marions ghost Dec 2015 #107
"Stump for Trump Girls" -- from last night (puke alert) marions ghost Dec 2015 #98
woo-hoo. makes my day. this should happen to him every time he opens his filthy mouth. nt ellenrr Dec 2015 #100
Trump is not suited to be POTUS Gothmog Dec 2015 #101
Typical bully Faux pas Dec 2015 #103
A blogger's account: marions ghost Dec 2015 #109
Good. An infantile response from an infantile little man. trillion Dec 2015 #110
I was away this weekend with no news mmonk Dec 2015 #118
Yep. marions ghost Dec 2015 #125
If that's what it takes to shut him up, count me in. Nailzberg Dec 2015 #124
The video is great, he couldn't even talk adigal Dec 2015 #126

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
6. Are you able to access the MSNBC page?
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:12 PM
Dec 2015

After just now seeing the video, I'm suddenly getting page not found....

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
7. no interest in finding or watching it - life's too short. Listening to the Bruins
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:13 PM
Dec 2015

and hanging out in DU!

Hey - we should get our Triangle area bunch together one of these days!

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
13. because we have a saying in sales
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:19 PM
Dec 2015

lose like a champ. When you shout someone down then you appear to be a jerk. People and his supporters will become even more dedicated to him. The ones who are on the fence will not want to identify with the disrupter's. You lose when you act like a jerk and that is how you will be perceived.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
15. So how do you think civil rights would have fared without protests?
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:21 PM
Dec 2015

I guess most of that wasn't directly at one person's speech/rally, but I think protesting is a good thing, especially when it is confronting people like him.

.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
22. I think that Trump's statements harm him more than rudely interrupting him. When
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:28 PM
Dec 2015

he speaks, he is most unscripted and comes off like an idiotic jerk. He looks much better when he is prevented from speaking.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
32. Say that to his numbers. pssh..
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:42 PM
Dec 2015

Always shout him down, Always throw him out.

If it ever gets to the point of him winning, then shout louder and riot. I say do ANYTHING it takes to prevent him in power.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
34. If only takes ten people yelling to end his events, We need 10 in every city.
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:49 PM
Dec 2015

SHould be easy to do.

Shut him down. A good deal of the people were there for the circus anyway.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
50. So disrupting a Trump Speach and you’re a Jerk?
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:56 AM
Dec 2015

Last edited Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:51 AM - Edit history (1)

Ones on the fence? Give me a beak...The a sum/total situation.. Either you’re with this guy or your not..
We have just got to hope that the majority of Americans will be repulsed by his antics.. There’s no middle ground here as you are assuming..

AnotherDreamWeaver

(2,850 posts)
63. "We have just got to hope that the majority of Americans will not be repulsed by his antics." ????
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:28 AM
Dec 2015

I don't think you were really thinking that...

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
113. agreed. I stand with the repulsed. Gotta love how the more press time they give him, the even more
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 01:29 AM
Dec 2015

fascist lunatic he sounds - Carson and Fiorina too.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
16. Making him leave the stage strengthens him how?
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:23 PM
Dec 2015

Nonviolent protest is a time-honored tradition in this country. Especially when what we're seeing is a raving nutjob in a pit of gladiators. The audience of such a grotesque spectacle should have the right to boo. Let's not pretend this is really a campaign speech.

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
19. this is not non violent protest
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:26 PM
Dec 2015

and is form of violent protest. non violent protest was a sit in at a lunch counter. yelling someone off a stage is not nonviolent pfotest

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
33. if you shout someone
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:48 PM
Dec 2015

you are definitely censoring him. One thing i know is you have never been in sales. The overall perception of your actions has to be your concern. So the people in the auditorium and most of the people who see it on TV see it as 10 jerks yelling someone off the stage. the result are people like you feel self satisfied. The trouble is you are already convinced. Everyone else thinks they are jerks.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
35. Somewhere below the superficial level of "perceptions"
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:54 PM
Dec 2015

the Truth lurks...

And that's what the protestors are speaking.

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
37. and do you really think the protesters
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:01 AM
Dec 2015

come across well to average people. the only people who support the protesters are people like you and you are already convinced.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
39. You underestimate the "average people"...
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:04 AM
Dec 2015

Last edited Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:30 AM - Edit history (1)

as marketers often do. Many average people have sense enough to think for themselves without the spin you value so highly.

I consider myself among the "average people."

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
42. Let me give you an example of winning by losing gracefully
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:16 AM
Dec 2015

I just restarted my business. i started a discussion with an old contact(CIO) about my business. He ended up asking me if I knew anyone located in NYC to sell for his company. My wife said did you ever sell him anything and I said no. She said to me "why would they hire you? and I told her I always kept my cool with him. guess what they are flying me in for the job. now it will only be on a contract because I want it that way. I am one of the best in the country at what I do and at times I would love to tell people off but I shut my mouth and eventually win.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
45. ". . . I am one of the best in the country at what I do . . . "
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:30 AM
Dec 2015

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I'm the Queen of England.

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
48. except it is true
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:40 AM
Dec 2015

only if u knew. I have a rolodex that people would die for. I do something that people find incredibly hard to do and 98%of the people hate to do. If you want to start a business do what everyone hates to do and there is money in it.


 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
120. what i do is cold call
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 07:33 PM
Dec 2015

and there are very few who do it well. I have been offered good money to teach what I do by some major companies. If i could tell you the deals I have found it would blow your mind. I have been part of many million dollar deals. There are many better sales people than me but very few better cold callers than me. I can point to twenty top sales people who all say I am the best they have ever seen.

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
122. ever try cold calling
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 11:52 PM
Dec 2015

quite the challenge. then tell me what is it like.

I also make some pretty good money. a company is flying me to NYC just to meet me. As Ali said "it ain't bragging if you do it" I'll put it this way.I pass the social security cap every single year.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
123. I personally negotiated
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 12:13 AM
Dec 2015

Last edited Tue Dec 8, 2015, 03:06 AM - Edit history (1)

four of the five largest IT industry mergers in the 1980s, and proved the Goldbach conjecture during bathroom breaks.

Steve Jobs used to call me for advice on GUI design.

My second villa in Tuscany has a master bedroom closet larger than the Sistine Chapel.



Delver Rootnose

(250 posts)
36. By you definition ....
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:56 PM
Dec 2015

...sitting at a lunch counter is violence. Just like not allowing some 'proper' to use the counter the people arnt letting trump use the mic unopposed.

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
38. I marched on Washington
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:04 AM
Dec 2015

in 1970 and 1971 against the vietnam war and we didn't have temper tantrums and that is how we influenced the country to oppose the war.

Delver Rootnose

(250 posts)
40. It's all a point of view...
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:09 AM
Dec 2015

I bet the old people of your youth thought you were throwing a temper tantrum just like you in your age think the current youth are doing it wrong.

Why don't you go show them how it is done properly.

Oh and the convention in Chicago was oh so orderly.

Delver Rootnose

(250 posts)
46. And the candidate had.....
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:31 AM
Dec 2015

...nothing to do with it, or the brokered convention.

You're the expert show them how it is done. Plan out an acceptable protest that meets your sensibilities. Just don't whine when it gets ignored by the US media or criticized by others as 'too extreme'

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
115. sorry to burst your bubble, but the time to be marching
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:18 AM
Dec 2015

against the war was 1965-66. By 1970-71, Tricky Dick had begun the process of Vietnamization, withdrawing U.S. combat troops and instead supplying the puppet forces in the South. IOW, your marching influenced exactly no one. Props to those like Norman Morrison who protested at a time when the protests actually counted.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
111. I think it makes it look like the protestors won and like Donald Trump is a temper tantrum throwing
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 01:26 AM
Dec 2015

little man.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
18. I think that is a bit of an overstatement of how conservative NC is
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:24 PM
Dec 2015

NC went for Obama in 08, was the closest contested state he lost in 12, and our Senator came the closest to reelection in the horrible year that was 2014. We also have a better than even shot at defeating McCrory in 16. We are easily closer politically to Virginia than we are to Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, or Tennessee.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
55. Parts of it were, anyway
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:09 AM
Dec 2015

Kelvin, the liberal state of North Carolina is also the state that inflicted Jesse Helms on the Senate for thirty years.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
53. Yeah....Raleigh's neon blue.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:06 AM
Dec 2015

NC's history is actually relatively liberal. The state figured out basing their entire economy on tobacco wasn't going to work out....in the 1950s. And then the government set about doing something to fix that.

So they started building up infrastructure to get other industries here. For example, Charlotte has a massive banking industry - it's where banks send work when New York got too expensive.

Between Raleigh and Durham, the state set up a lot of infrastructure and tax incentives for high-tech companies. And it has been massively successful. Three major universities in the area have extremely good science programs to supply highly educated workers, and all the various incentives caused a massive bloom of "tech" jobs starting in the 1980s.

Today, if I go to a job search site, the only place I can find more job openings for "tech" jobs is in Silicon Valley.

The result of that highly-educated population, as well as the very large number of people who relocated here, has turned Raleigh quite "blue".

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
57. Great. Now I gotta go look up what element glows blue in a "neon" tube.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:13 AM
Dec 2015


ETA: Apparently, it's argon blue.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
61. Either argon or xenon
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:18 AM
Dec 2015

New "neon" signs don't use neon at all - the lights are fluorescent tubes with internal coatings that produce any color you want.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
119. The triangle is pretty blue. We have a
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 09:28 PM
Dec 2015

large Hispanic population in outlying areas as well. I figured he would face interruptions.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
21. K & R !!!!
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:28 PM
Dec 2015

I lived in Raleigh for many years...happy to see tRump forced off the stage...now he can go back to his jet and tweet even more ridiculous lies...


LS_Editor

(893 posts)
62. What a baby.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:23 AM
Dec 2015

I thought he would never be like Bernie Sanders and allow protesters to derail him speaking.

Shocking that was bullshit. Shocking.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
64. To all of you applauding this: Would you feel the same if it was done to a Democratic candidate?
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:29 AM
Dec 2015

What if it was Hillary speaking, and was shouted down by Trump supporters, what say you then?


When you shout down those you disagree with, you have lost any moral authority you might have had and have lowered yourself to being a bully.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
116. Trump, like Hitler, is really sui generis. IOW, he must
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:26 AM
Dec 2015

be shouted down at every turn, his supporters must be shunned and shamed at every turn.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
69. Hillary deserves some respect
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:27 AM
Dec 2015

Trump deserves none. He's a monster created by the corporate Rethuglicons, much to their dismay.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
73. So whether someone should be allowed to speak
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:52 AM
Dec 2015

Should be determined by whether or not you respect them.

Gotcha.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
74. He got a chance to speak--he spoke for 30 minutes
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:59 AM
Dec 2015

--but his speech was marked by what I feel is justified nonviolent protest.

No, I don't think you give dangerous demagogues the right to grandstand and foment egregious lies nonstop.

Isn't it obvious the comparison to another unmentionable historical figure who was shielded by conservative views such as yours?

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
75. Way to display your historical ignornance
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:05 AM
Dec 2015

Obviously you're referencing Hitler. What you absolutely fail to understand is that Hitler's speeches were constantly disrupted before his rise to power, especially at the beginning of his political career. Nazi rallies often descended into mad scrums of battles between Nazis and communists. It did nothing to stop him, If anything it made him more popular with the German People "See these people are afraid of the truth, they won't even let me speak". The reason the Nazi's rose to power was not for want of people willing to shout at them.

But yes, you're displaying a huge amount of hypocrisy and bias when you treat a political action different when it is pointed at someone you do or do not like. Personally, I think it is immature and asinine whoever it is pointed at and ultimately probably only helps the side you are yelling at (most people view such disrupters as idiots).

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
78. I view the disrupters as brave souls who speak for many others
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:13 AM
Dec 2015

So go ahead and call me all kinds of names. Doesn't matter. I stand with the protestors. And I always will. And you always won't.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
79. Hah, actually you admitted the opposite.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:16 AM
Dec 2015

You stand with the protesters when they are on your side. If others did the same thing to Hillary or Bernie you'd be howling with outrage. Again, as you admit, not out any logic or reasoning, but via a pure sense of tribalism and backing "our guy".

I personally think a good message can be ruined by the wrong tactics, but alas we seem to be approaching a critical mass of the idea of "just do something, who cares if it is counterproductive".

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
81. I would not stop nonviolent protestors
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:25 AM
Dec 2015

--even if they were protesting my candidate Sanders at a rally. Of course they will be removed by police, as they were in this case. But I think it's OK all around as long as it is not violent.

No civil protest of Trump is "counterproductive"--that's a quaint way of looking at what is happening. We must speak out against him and everything he stands for.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
83. What are the police doing besides stopping it?
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:28 AM
Dec 2015

Trying to shout someone down in a public forum is counterproductive, it makes you look like a monster to their partisans, a rude person who can't show basic respect to a neutral observer and a "hero" to your own partisans.

It does nothing to expand your point of view, it is pure red meat thrown to people who already agree with you while alienating anyone who isn't strongly for or against.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
87. My opponent is rude?
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:35 AM
Dec 2015

Better cede the moral high ground and be just as rude back.

Thats how you win a debate for sure.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
84. Except your comparison and the implications are nothing resembling actual history.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:29 AM
Dec 2015

The fact you think Nazi rallies and speeches weren't disrupted all the time before the rise of the Nazis to power is proof enough.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
88. Ya know.. except..
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:38 AM
Dec 2015

You don't actually have a clear understanding of history, as two people have just explained to you now.

If bothered to actually read the paragraph I typed you'd understand why.

Here I'll bold it.

Obviously you're referencing Hitler. What you absolutely fail to understand is that Hitler's speeches were constantly disrupted before his rise to power, especially at the beginning of his political career. Nazi rallies often descended into mad scrums of battles between Nazis and communists. It did nothing to stop him, If anything it made him more popular with the German People. He would say "See these people are afraid of the truth, they won't even let me speak" and people would cheer. The reason the Nazi's rose to power was not for want of people willing to shout at them.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
90. Those who wish to cite subjects they know nothing on.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:48 AM
Dec 2015

Probably knew nothing on those subjects for a reason.

Perhaps it is ignoring someone when they try to educate them.

Who knows!

Neat song though.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
93. I don't respect Hillary but would
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 04:20 AM
Dec 2015

hope she is allowed to speak. What I want for my candidate is what I want for all.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
106. That's my point
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:42 PM
Dec 2015

The loon has not been silenced in any way. The point is that some who feel deeply have expressed visible opposition to his insane ravings. Solidarity. Surely you realize that most "liberal" Americans have no political voice.

Trump insults America by his candidacy in myriad ways. He suffers from delusions of grandeur, & inflicts himself on a weakened, vulnerable populace.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
65. COOL! -- The one time I've EVER been in favor of idiot-disruptors
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:36 AM
Dec 2015

By protesting like this, these screamers will make Trump's backers love him even more. Which should (cross-my-fingers) get him the nomination.

I mean, normally, I call stuff like this left-wingnut counter-productivity, but here they're doing us a great favor, even if it's almost certainly for the wrong reasons.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
70. CBS is covering it now
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:37 AM
Dec 2015
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/black-lives-matter-protesters-cut-off-donald-trump-in-north-carolina/
----

RALEIGH, North Carolina -- GOP frontrunner Donald Trump abruptly ended his rally in his first visit to the state after his speech was interrupted at least 10 times by protesters - many of them chanting "Black Lives Matter!" as they were escorted out.
---

Trump maintained his composure initially. After the first protester, a woman, interrupted his speech, Trump told the crowd, "Make sure that young lady is in beautiful shape."

However, soon enough, the rally had a different feel as crowd members, campaign staff and press alike were actively on the lookout for more protesters. Trump blamed the media for giving the protesters coverage.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
71. CNN Coverage of this story out of Raleigh:
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:41 AM
Dec 2015
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/04/politics/donald-trump-raleigh-protesters-black-lives-matter/index.html

Donald Trump rally interrupted repeatedly by protesters


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According to Wake County Sheriff Donnie Harrison, the authorities removed about 25 protesters from the event. Western Wake Fire Rescue Capt. Brian Egan said the capacity crowd numbered about 7,800.

While most of the protesters were peacefully removed, on two occasions apparent veterans wearing fatigues were observed forcefully manhandling protesters in an attempt to remove them, until authorities took over.

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
94. Trump thrives on playing the "underdog" publicly.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 04:26 AM
Dec 2015

It is the image he covets most of all since his supporters see themselves as disenfranchised, disrespected patriots. He is every bit as dangerous as anyone has suggested. He played the situation last night to his audience well.

However, those who think quiet respectful protest will better silence him have no idea what he is up to. It did not work against Bush either.

Both Bush and Trump ignored the press when it suited them and used reporters as ideological punching bags. The press is aiding Trump by its passivity in dealing with all kinds of political issues. It also makes the mistake of presenting him as a genuine alternative. They would do much better to emphasize his hollow nature and his real world failures as a leader and so-called entrepreneur. Asking how he will pay for all that he proposes would do for a start.

His crowds are loud and angry. The public he aims for is not interested in truth or information or anything they actually must think about. They hear him enunciate their fears loudly and offer the kind of emotionally charged responses that bullies in schoolyards have used. They howl for vengeance against all the hurts they feel and aim that anger at anything or anyone who is "other" to them. They are not rational, and they are very driven.

The people who interrupted him last night were right to do so. He has no right to denigrate fellow Americans and North Carolina citizens as he did. We have a diverse population in North Carolina, although the Wonder Bread world shown in most local news and advertising pretends otherwise. We are far more fair minded than Trump's absolutist dogma implies.

Trump is a foul mouthed beast and a mean asshole which he proudly displayed last night. We do not benefit by propping up his false narrative and his arrogant disrespect.

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
105. Same old story with some of you people: Liberals have to behave nice, right-wingers don't.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:28 PM
Dec 2015

Republicans take advantage of our decent tendencies, every chance they get; they depend on liberals caving in because of our better natures, and thus they triumph over us. Over and over and over again.

This is no way to win a political battle. If you're not willing to get down in the ditches the conservatives created and slug it out with them, make way for those of us who are ready to fight. How much will your good conduct medals help you, under a Trump/Cruz regime?

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
107. You meant to address this to others in this thread IMO
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:47 PM
Dec 2015

I agree with you that the time for nicey nice is over. As long as its civil disobedience, I believe in it.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
98. "Stump for Trump Girls" -- from last night (puke alert)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 10:48 AM
Dec 2015


Published on Dec 4, 2015

The “Stump for Trump” girls, Lynnette 'Diamond' Hardaway and Rochelle 'Silk' Richardson go on stage supporting Trump. Trump tells black online hosts endorsing him, ‘Do a little routine’.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
118. I was away this weekend with no news
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 09:24 PM
Dec 2015

and Internet and wondered how it went. I figured my hometown would give him hell. I wasn't disappointed I hear.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
126. The video is great, he couldn't even talk
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:57 PM
Dec 2015

Too bad he got to talk yesterday, and the fascists there cheered and cheered.

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