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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 05:33 AM Dec 2015

Hillary Clinton extends lead in Democratic race for president

Source: cbs






By Rebecca Shabad CBS News December 4, 2015, 6:05 PM

Hillary Clinton has extended her lead in the Democratic presidential race, according to a CNN/ORC poll released Friday.

The poll found 58 percent of Democratic voters or people who lean that way back Clinton while 30 percent said they support Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vermont. Former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley received 2 percent support.

The latest figures for Clinton indicate a significant jump since the last poll in October when 45 percent of Democratic voters said they would support her for president.

In the new poll, 74 percent said Clinton had the best chance of winning the general election next November, compared to 17 percent who said the same for Sanders.
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The poll, which was conducted after the Paris attacks but before Wednesday's San Bernardino shooting, fo...........

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-extends-lead-in-democratic-race-for-president/



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2. National polls are fun, but I'm not sure they help much for reading tea leaves at a state level.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 07:37 AM
Dec 2015

Per the article it's a sample size of "403 people who are Democrats or independents who lean that way." That's a very small sample size spread out nationally. Of 403 people; 234 people(58%) support Clinton, 121(30%) people support Sanders, 8 people(2%) support O'Malley, and 40 people(10%) were undecided.

While Clinton may lead Sanders 58% to 30% nationally consider that in the same CNN/ORC survey taken in late June Clinton held the advantage 58% to 15%.

One interesting quirk: Clinton leads Sanders 58% to 31% on the economy, but when asked specifically about who would do the most to help the middle class Clinton held a much more modest lead 47% to 44% (within the margin or error).

Regarding the question of who has the best chance of winning the general election... That's a question of perception. There's already data out there that suggests Sanders would be just as strong if not moreso than Hillary in the GE. If he pulls out Iowa or New Hampshire watch out because that could really shatter the myth of unelectability.

Raw data: http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/04/politics/full-results-poll-democrats-2016/

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
3. He has to pull off BOTH Iowa and NH to haven a chance of viability.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 07:47 AM
Dec 2015

And no matter what happens there, he'll never have Obama's success in South Carolina or other southern states.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
13. After IA & NH, the election comes to America, and we'll make our choice loud & clear.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:23 PM
Dec 2015

Those hoping for an Obama style upset haven't met the Obama coalition.

Vinca

(50,276 posts)
4. Even though I support Bernie, I'm not that concerned about the primaries.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 08:11 AM
Dec 2015

Any of our candidates are better by a mile than the "best" (sanest) Republican candidate. My fear is Hillary won't be able to generate enough excitement to bring people out to vote next November and it will be a mid-term election numbers scenario which will mean a GOP sweep. I don't know if Bernie could do any better, but I think he generates more excitement among people who often don't bother showing up.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
6. I'll happily vote for Hillary even if I prefer Sanders.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 11:12 AM
Dec 2015

We have two great options unlike the clown car of candidate the republicans have.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
12. I haven't heard much lately about "more debates". That strategy seems to have fallen flat & ....
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:21 PM
Dec 2015

produced the opposite result.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
17. Now that the debate has shifted (big time) to foreign policy, expect her numbers to continue to rise
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:30 AM
Dec 2015

A1an

(12 posts)
14. Clinton-Bush 2016
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 04:37 PM
Dec 2015

Don't be surprised by this time next year that the President-elect is the former First Lady and her Vice-President elect running mate is former Florida governor Jeb Bush.

An announcement of their unique-candidacy should come as early as next July, featuring their joint statements on sharing disdain for partisan politics as usual. So, rather than promote Democratic or Republican agendas, their campaign will focus upon OneNation.

*For clarity sake, I'm not forecasting/predicting this because I like either one of them, it just seems logical that if two major names representing the best of both parties can put aside their differences "for America" then the voting public should follow suit as well.

At present the only candidate IMHO who isn't a broken-record of the same old, same old, nor beholden to special interest is Bernie Sanders, and what an ideal running mate Elizabeth Warren would make for him.

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