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MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:36 PM Dec 2015

Presidential candidate Donald Trump calls for Muslims to be temporarily denied entry to US

Source: AFP Twitter

#BREAKING Presidential candidate Donald Trump calls for Muslims to be temporarily denied entry to US

Read more: https://twitter.com/AFP/status/673977110034296832



Trump Says U.S. Should Stop Muslims From Immigrating to U.S.

Statement from Donald Trump’s presidential campaign calls for a “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on.”

Trump says it’s “obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension”. “Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine”. “Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life”

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2015-12-07/trump-says-u-s-should-stop-muslims-from-immigrating-to-u-s-
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Presidential candidate Donald Trump calls for Muslims to be temporarily denied entry to US (Original Post) MowCowWhoHow III Dec 2015 OP
Until he can figure out what is going on? That will be never. randys1 Dec 2015 #1
The male shooter mainstreetonce Dec 2015 #2
As usual, this will give him a bump in the polls n/t hibbing Dec 2015 #3
That happens with racist republicans a lot lately rockfordfile Dec 2015 #15
I don't know what to say anymore. Glimmer of Hope Dec 2015 #4
RW populism at its 'finest'. Blame THEM and Muslims are THEM. Marine Le Pen is taking notes. n/t pampango Dec 2015 #5
The real question is: brooklynite Dec 2015 #6
"Republican" and "Courage" don't belong in the same sentence. n/t Gore1FL Dec 2015 #8
Lindsey graham has but none on the debate stage JI7 Dec 2015 #9
The second question will be how long before EL34x4 Dec 2015 #12
Jeb bush just did n/t easttexaslefty Dec 2015 #14
Most of it is coming from you, Donald, and your xenophobic supporters. Maybe Muslims think sinkingfeeling Dec 2015 #7
If only we'd have closed the borders to Germans in 1885 (his grandfather emigrated from there) George II Dec 2015 #10
Fuck you Donald. 47of74 Dec 2015 #11
White House: Trump call to bar Muslims 'totally contrary' to US values (AFP) MowCowWhoHow III Dec 2015 #13
Fortunately TNNurse Dec 2015 #16
Hey Donald - ET Awful Dec 2015 #17
Hey Donald, 1939 Germany called. They want their gestapo back. Initech Dec 2015 #18
Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, briv1016 Dec 2015 #19
Aside from the fact lakercub Dec 2015 #20
Genius! That would solve everything! Kablooie Dec 2015 #21
Maybe some EU nation will temporarily deny him a visa... mwooldri Dec 2015 #22

sinkingfeeling

(51,474 posts)
7. Most of it is coming from you, Donald, and your xenophobic supporters. Maybe Muslims think
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:11 PM
Dec 2015

they can no longer be the victims of horrendous attacks by the USA, we know has no respect for human life.

God, I hate that man.

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. If only we'd have closed the borders to Germans in 1885 (his grandfather emigrated from there)
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:29 PM
Dec 2015

His grandfather had an interesting background, at one time running a hotel in British Columbia that catered to prostitutes.

MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
13. White House: Trump call to bar Muslims 'totally contrary' to US values (AFP)
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:56 PM
Dec 2015
White House: Trump call to bar Muslims 'totally contrary' to US values (AFP)

A senior White House aide on Monday branded Donald Trump's proposal to ban Muslims from entering the United States as "totally contrary to our values as Americans."

"We have, in our Bill of Rights, respect for the freedom of religion," one of President Barack Obama's top foreign policy aides, Ben Rhodes, told CNN.

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/white-house-trump-call-bar-muslims-totally-contrary-223102237.html

ET Awful

(24,753 posts)
17. Hey Donald -
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:07 PM
Dec 2015

I don't think that would go over too well. If you were to block Muslims from entering the US, that would really put a damper on business for some of your wealthiest supporters.

But don't let that get in the way of your bullshit rhetoric.

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
19. Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:00 PM
Dec 2015

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
Unless you're Muslim

lakercub

(659 posts)
20. Aside from the fact
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 11:22 PM
Dec 2015

that this is reprehensible and Trump is a fascist bigot...how exactly would this even work?

The only possible way to do this would be out and out racial profiling, and even that would be wildly ineffective. If a Muslim wanted to come into the USA to commit an act of terror, how would this stop them? If they don't claim to be Muslim how exactly does Trump think we can identify Muslims vs non-Muslims? If they want to harm us, they can dress in everyday casual clothes and claim to be anything other than Muslim and we wouldn't have a clue one way or the other. Even clothing isn't a sure-fire identifier (for example, Sikhs have been confused for Muslims plenty of times over the years).

Naturally we could just assume everyone with darker skin must obviously be a Muslim (which would turn away any number of African Catholics or Christians from many Mediterranean countries...among others). Or we could just assume everyone from the Middle East is a Muslim (which would come as quite a surprise to many of the Jews and Christians in the region). Further what happens if a terrorist comes from Indonesia (which has a gigantic population of Muslims)? They don't look Middle Eastern and they don't have Middle Eastern names. Do we stop all of them too just to be safe? Further, there are plenty of white Muslims in Europe. If one of them wants to commit an act of terror, how do we stop them from coming in if they don't claim to be Muslim?

Racial profiling wouldn't work, identification by type of name wouldn't work, clothing style wouldn't work, and region of origin wouldn't work. Maybe he could shut the borders completely (a wall with heavy guard for its entire length would be required on all land borders) , halt all immigration via air and sea, wipe out all foreign tourism, and shut down H1Bs and foreign exchange programs. That might do it. It would cost a fortune, ruin untold numbers of businesses, cause a massive worker shortage, and ruin the soul of the country but that's beside the point.

I can't believe I've spent this much time even thinking about it, but the suggestion is just so preposterous and totally unworkable.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
22. Maybe some EU nation will temporarily deny him a visa...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 03:08 AM
Dec 2015

... next time he may want to go. Ask the dude who goes by the stage name of "Michael Savage" and how his visa application is going with the UK authorities.

Why this $#!@! is being broadcast as the main story on BBC World Service right now.....

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