'Decamp immediately': Kate Brown steps up rhetoric on Oregon militants
Source: The Oregonian
Gov. Kate Brown on Thursday offered her strongest remarks yet on armed militants' six-day occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, calling the action "unlawful" and demanding the group "decamp immediately."
Brown's poke at "outsiders," in a statement issued by her office, came about the same time as Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward parleyed with protest leader Ammon Bundy about how to end the occupation without bloodshed.
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jalan48
(13,907 posts)These protesters seem free to come and go as they please. Do TV interviews, get snacks at the PO that are sent to them, get drunk in town, etc. WTF is going on here?
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)Personally, I think they should be apprehended when they leave and thrown in jail.
The rest can freeze to death and we'll just thaw them out at the end of winter.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)she should have said "check out immediately."
Volaris
(10,278 posts)They haven't been back since
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Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)It's just as brave as it would have been at any other point. Braver than Obama was when he totally caved to Cliven B. in the Nevada thing.
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trueblue2007
(17,243 posts)OREGONIANS LIKE HER.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Response to Shrike47 (Reply #8)
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Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)And there aren't any votes Kitzhaber could get that Brown can't.
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Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)...if that isn't hostile, what would be?
Why would you be dismissive of someone who has stepped up to the plate and become a great governor?
fredamae
(4,458 posts)by the time the election came around aka: the fourth term - I believe many if not most voted Against ALEC's Dennis Richardson as the GOP candidate rather than "for" Kitz.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Please... Calm down.. There are a few who make decisions in matters such as these before the Pres.
Unless yopu are tryingb to make a point.. Are You?
24601
(3,966 posts)hostility here when Arizona thought it would be a good idea to enforce immigration laws.
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jberryhill
(62,444 posts)This is not somehow an exclusive "federal issue".
24601
(3,966 posts)the scene. State and local authorities will support; however, neither the Governor nor County Sheriff will be taking over local command unless it's delegated by the FBI SAIC. Given that the occupation involves a federal building on a national refuge, it isn't likely that the FBI will withdraw as lead agency.
There are plenty of support tasks to go around. For example, when a President visits, traffic and crowd control almost always is performed by local & state police while direct/close protection of the President and access to the event are performed by the Secret Service.
State & local law enforcement support to a lead federal agency is neither new nor contentious.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Seems that stating the obvious as she did, is not the same as "rushing out and jumping into a feral issue." You appear to conflate action and mere observation... whether that's due to agenda or simply poor reasoning, I don't pretend to know.
24601
(3,966 posts)that since the response was being led by the FBI, there wasn't a necessity for the Governor to jump in and try to take the lead.
I was responding to 1000words (Reply #3) who was saying word to the effect that Gov Brown had been too timid until the "patriots" went on motel benders.
My point was that when the response is being led by the Feds, in this case the FBI, there is no compelling reason for a Governor to rush in and do anything.
I believe that her step-up in the rhetoric was measured and wasn't likely to move the scene towards violence.
A peaceful solution is the objective, right?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)"Although the FBI is the lead agency responding to the situation, my top priority is the safety of the people of Harney County and the City of Burns. The Oregon State Police has enhanced its presence in the area, augmenting local and federal public safety resources and assisting with community outreach. I look for a swift resolution that allows Harney County life to return to normal."
So it's the FBI that is calling the shots and it is the Federal authorities who are not speaking strongly. Using your characterization, the FBI is unable or unwilling to arrest a bunch of drunks at a motel. Why do you think that is the case?
Ford_Prefect
(7,927 posts)LS_Editor
(893 posts)They are lucky they are stupid White people...
Funerals for Blacks Seizing Federal Building Would Be Over By Now
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Schneider continued, "Had they been Black Americans doing the same thing they would have had a 96.73% chance of being killed, and their funerals would be wrapped up by now. It was pretty much 100% if they had been Muslims."
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)okojo
(76 posts)As long as there are no hostage present, the FBI has taken a wait and see approach. They did this with a Montana Standoff in the 1990s, and I am guessing that most of these terrorists are outsiders, and it appears they are already ripping into each other, that dis unity is becoming a problem.. The incident that split the Oath Keepers from these so called militia terrorists during the Cliven Bundy ranch standoff was "hard evidence" that Eric Holder has authorized drone strikes against those camped at the Bundy Ranch in Nevada. Oath Keepers wanted to leave, while many of the group now at Malheur Wildlife refuge, either drew weapons or threaten to shoot them..
Unless the situation deteriorates, or the FBI is going to be in the background, for now. I am guessing Oregon State Police will be more of a presence.
If these terrorist took over the Harney County Courthouse with hostages insides, there is no question there would a FBI or an Oregon State Police raid on the building. The Malheur Refuge is twenty to twenty five miles away from Burns, it is very isolated, and in some ways, if they barricaded in the refuge HQ, the terrorists are making their own prison.
I am also guessing the FBI is very well aware of the discontent within the Refuge Headquarters, besides most of these terrorists appear to be from Arizona and Nevada...
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Oneironaut
(5,538 posts)Not that I think it's the best course of action, but Oregon's leadership is starting to get embarrassed. This makes them look like idiots.
Luckily, in the event of a raid, I highly doubt anything but a peaceful resolution would occur.
Gore1FL
(21,164 posts)The are both damaging their cause and providing endless comedy.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)saltpoint
(50,986 posts)The words she uses are completely appropriate.