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riversedge

(70,321 posts)
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:23 PM Jan 2016

Hillary Clinton Calls for 'Spirited Debate' With Bernie Sanders as Race Heats Up

Source: abc



Hillary Clinton Calls for 'Spirited Debate' With Bernie Sanders as Race Heats Up

By Liz Kreutz

WATERLOO, IOWA — Jan 11, 2016, 4:24 PM ET


In snowy Iowa, the race is heating up.
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“I think it’s time for us to have the kind of spirited debate that you deserve us to have. We’re so much better than the Republicans, but we do have differences and you deserve to know what those differences are,” Clinton said at a campaign event in Waterloo, Iowa today, after taking on Sanders for his position on health care.


"I just have a difference with Senator Sanders. He has a different plan,” Clinton said.

She said that where she and Sanders “part” on health care is that her plan would not raise taxes on the middle class, while his plan would. ............................

Later, Clinton went after Sanders on gun control -— pointing out again that she voted against immunity for gun manufacturers in lawsuits in the “Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act," while he voted for it. Sanders has since said that he is willing to reconsider liability for gun manufacturers.

“I believe those are one of the significant differences between me and Senator Sanders,” Clinton said about her gun policies. ...................

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-calls-spirited-debate-bernie-sanders-race/story?id=36223002



Grand pic of Hillary meeting with her Town Hall audience








PHOTO: Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton reaches for a smartphone for a selfie with a supporter after a campaign rally, Jan. 11, 2016, in Waterloo, Iowa. Jae C. Hong/AP Photo


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Hillary Clinton ‏@HillaryClinton 22m22 minutes ago

Thank you, @GabbyGiffords and @ShuttleCDRKelly. http://hrc.io/1IZhiXR
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Hillary Clinton Calls for 'Spirited Debate' With Bernie Sanders as Race Heats Up (Original Post) riversedge Jan 2016 OP
Yes! tecelote Jan 2016 #1
How many debates are left? Maybe this means we need a couple more and at times when randys1 Jan 2016 #2
Only 3 more. There were 6 scheduled altogether. Cal33 Jan 2016 #31
Does that mean she's for more debates, now? Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #3
Well, not exactly... Ino Jan 2016 #34
Nevertheless Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #37
Good. She should ask for more debates. TriplD Jan 2016 #4
If Hillary asks for more debats, it probably means that she knows Bernie has caught up Cal33 Jan 2016 #41
I hope Bernie pulls ahead and then says "no" Jarqui Jan 2016 #5
I'd love it !! pangaia Jan 2016 #6
He wouldn't do that Lans Jan 2016 #27
I'll BET she does. pangaia Jan 2016 #7
¿No que no tronabas, pistolita? Xipe Totec Jan 2016 #8
*Now* she wants to debate? Hillarious. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #9
She seems desperate and deranged CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #26
Picture caption: Hillary Clinton reaches for the panic button nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #10
Os so NOW she'd like to debate!!! Wow, I can't believe my ears. highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #11
I just heard her on the TV machine. earthside Jan 2016 #29
I hate the fake accents. They're dumb, too. winter is coming Jan 2016 #30
Did you see the SNL skit recently? davidpdx Jan 2016 #33
No, I haven't. n/t winter is coming Jan 2016 #35
Here you go davidpdx Jan 2016 #39
Thanks! winter is coming Jan 2016 #40
Translation from Hillary-speak: ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2016 #12
Sure Hillary, what are doing during the superb owl? nt edgineered Jan 2016 #13
But she wants to do it the Saturday before Christmas. Sienna86 Jan 2016 #14
TeeHee! Stellar Jan 2016 #15
"her plan would not raise taxes on the middle class, while his plan would. ...................." rurallib Jan 2016 #16
another indication of fear in the Clinton camp grasswire Jan 2016 #17
Lordy, lordy - what a joke. 840high Jan 2016 #18
BWAHAHA! She is desperate! Helen Borg Jan 2016 #19
Attack! Attack! Attack! earthside Jan 2016 #32
She'll be demanding many more debates Geronimoe Jan 2016 #20
They are debating Sunday on NBC! yallerdawg Jan 2016 #21
How can there be a vigorous "debate" when he refuses to answer questions about policy? George II Jan 2016 #22
I agree, Madam Weathervane, you and Senator Sanders do have differences. Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #23
For instance SmittynMo Jan 2016 #36
Don't fall for it Bernie SmittynMo Jan 2016 #24
It's an ambush! Helen Borg Jan 2016 #38
Hillary makes plans for her future - She is going to try standup comedy SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #25
Yeah she can tell more Gandhi jokes Kalidurga Jan 2016 #28
And may the force be with her question everything Jan 2016 #42

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. How many debates are left? Maybe this means we need a couple more and at times when
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:26 PM
Jan 2016

people are watching.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
3. Does that mean she's for more debates, now?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:26 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:06 PM - Edit history (1)

Is she sure Debbie is OK with that?

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A poster form the other camp has reminded me through a PM that Mrs. Clinton has always expressed an openness to more debates. On this point I stand corrected and apologize for my error, which is solely my own.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
34. Well, not exactly...
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:57 PM
Jan 2016
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/09/21/how-democrats-got-bogged-down-in-a-messy-dispute-over-debates/
Last spring, when negotiations between the DNC and the Dem campaigns over the debate schedule got underway in earnest, the Clinton camp’s preference was to have only four debates, one in each of the early contest states of Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina, according to a senior Democrat with knowledge of those conversations.
(snip)
By contrast, Martin O’Malley’s campaign wanted many more debates. DNC officials suggested to the Clinton campaign that more than four would be necessary, the senior Dem continues. The Clinton camp showed flexibility at that point, but was uncomfortable with the idea of too many debates, and ultimately agreed to six, the senior Dem says. The tone of these discussions was more along the lines of collective brainstorming, and less like aggressive haggling, this official says.


When the outcry began for more debates, Hillary said she was open to them, but I could swear I saw her and DWS wink at each other. As usual, Hillary speaks out of both sides of her mouth.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
37. Nevertheless
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 11:35 PM
Jan 2016

Mrs. Clinton's stated position has been, in fact, to be open to more debates. As long as DWS was playing obstinate, Mrs. Clinton could say this even didn't mean it. I may have an opinion on whether up to now she's really wanted more, but I'll keep it to myself.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
41. If Hillary asks for more debats, it probably means that she knows Bernie has caught up
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:54 AM
Jan 2016

with, and is now ahead of her. She certainly said nothing when he was behind, and
both he and O'Malley were asking for more debates. She kept very quiet then. It
looks like a dead give-away.

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
5. I hope Bernie pulls ahead and then says "no"
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:28 PM
Jan 2016

Might serve up Hillary and her co-chair, Debbie, a little justice.

Lans

(66 posts)
27. He wouldn't do that
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:00 PM
Jan 2016

He is only following DNC rules if they schedule another debate, it would simply underline something he has been asking for months. I expect his campaign to hit the DNC hard on that and ask why they aren't doing their job and whether their incompetence is voluntary or whether they were waiting for what the person in charge to give them the go ahead. Should be fun news cycle which will hopefully drive DWS to her resignation due to gross incompetence

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
7. I'll BET she does.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:33 PM
Jan 2016



I don't know if I have ever seen a more hypocritical Democrat running for president in my lifetime.. which goes WAY, WAY back. Maybe I have forgotten, but...this just takes the cake.


CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
26. She seems desperate and deranged
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:55 PM
Jan 2016

Trying to grasp at anything to save her drowning campaign.

The last debate before the Iowa caucuses should be interesting. She's got no choice but to try and tear Sanders apart. It's the only thing she can do. She's backed up against a wall and when this happens to politicians they usually behave recklessly and attacks make them look weak, unstable.

Sanders definitely has the advantage going into the final phase of the caucus season. All he has to do is continue what he's been doing, and stay as cool as a cucumber. He can politely and firmly deflect her manic episodes by treating her like a lunatic with a hand grenade, "There, there Hillary...let me explain my position."

He'll look Presidential and she'll look unhinged.

God this is too easy. It's like all of my political dreams have come true.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
11. Os so NOW she'd like to debate!!! Wow, I can't believe my ears.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jan 2016

Seriously, I want a politician I can believe in. That is no Hillary.

I'd like a DNC I can believe in too. That is not what is run by Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

I'm keeping my nose to the grindstone for Bernie. They'll work it out somehow, but to call for debates now, surely that is the height of hypocrisy.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
29. I just heard her on the TV machine.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:08 PM
Jan 2016

And that was my first reaction, too.

Oh, NOW "it's time ..."

It really is just hilarious.

Until Sen. Sanders pulled even with her in the polls in Iowa ... Hillary had only a 'nose in the air' attitude towards "spirited" debate with Sanders.

And, I just saw a clip of her at a town hall in Iowa on Chris Hayes show.
That was hilarious, too.

Man, the shucks I'm one of ya down-home accent was heavy, heavy, heavy.

Mrs. Clinton is such a phony.



rurallib

(62,455 posts)
16. "her plan would not raise taxes on the middle class, while his plan would. ...................."
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:45 PM
Jan 2016

well let's have that debate so Hillary can tell us how the insurance companies will continue to raise premiums under the ACA.

Dammit that is so deceptive.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
32. Attack! Attack! Attack!
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:13 PM
Jan 2016

I'm listening to Hillary Clinton now on Chris Hayes' tv show.

And it is all now attack, attack, attack on Sen. Sanders.

That tells us that the Clinton internal polls must show her losing Iowa.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
21. They are debating Sunday on NBC!
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:22 PM
Jan 2016

You know, Martin Luther King holiday?

Don't tell me Senator Sanders (I-VT) supporters didn't know...



George II

(67,782 posts)
22. How can there be a vigorous "debate" when he refuses to answer questions about policy?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:27 PM
Jan 2016

No matter what he's asked, his answers fall back onto climate change, income inequality, and Wall Street.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
23. I agree, Madam Weathervane, you and Senator Sanders do have differences.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:29 PM
Jan 2016

For instance, your marriage to Wall Street and the banksters, your vote for the IWR, waffling on Keystone, and your latecomer status in marriage equality.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
36. For instance
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jan 2016

Single payer vs fix the ACA (Which is nothing more than catastrophic insurance)

Free public college for all vs reduce rates for loans.

Need we go on and on and on?

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
24. Don't fall for it Bernie
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:32 PM
Jan 2016

The DNC shut this crap down from the very beginning. No extra debates, right?

Don't do it Bern.

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