Anti-Obama march organizer fatally shoots right-wing militant buddy in drunken dispute over gun

[Ichingcarpenter]

Source: RAW STORY

Planning for a cross-country march to “restore America” — which is related to the Oregon nature preserve standoff — appears to have hit a snag when one of its organizers shot the other co-founder Monday afternoon during a drunken argument over a gun.

Sheriff’s deputies in Grayson County, Texas, have not released details about the fatal shooting, but social media posts by right-wing “patriots” associated with militants occupying an Oregon nature preserve identified the victim and shooter as the organizers of the Paul Revere 2016 Final March To Restore America.

“Dear friends it’s my dearest regrets to have to share this heart breaking new (sic) with you tonight. That OUR fellow patriot and brother Charles Carter is no longer with us. He gone to be with Jesus. Today killed by a fellow patriot Vincent Smith. Who was suppose (sic) to be his brother in arms and friend,” posted online radio host Keith Williams, who described himself as the victim’s next of kin.

Bill Williamson, another right-wing “patriot” associated with the Oregon militants, said in a Facebook post that Smith shot Carter in a drunken dispute over a gun.He said Carter was intoxicated and pulled Smith’s gun from its holster, but Smith drew a “spare gun” and shot his friend in the head.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/anti-obama-march-organizer-fatally-shoots-right-wing-militant-buddy-in-drunken-dispute-over-gun/

[Roland99]

1. I am Jack's complete lack of surprise

[mikeysnot]

2. Gun nuts.

Go nuts!

[allan01]

3. removing the popular elected administration by force is a coup

good luck.

[U of M Dem]

83. This would be a heckofa way to ID all of those

RW "Patriot" gun nuts and send 'em to prison in one fell swoop as traitors.

Then they could hoot and holler about their precious gun rights until they are blue in the face, but never ever have access to them again.

[christx30]

4. I can't possibly imagine why Obama would be in favor

of some gun control. It totally escapes me.

[LiberalArkie]

15. I personally believe that every box of shells should come with a bottle of whiskey.

[central scrutinizer]

89. Attach one of those breathalyzers

That are required of convicted DUIers. Except in reverse. You can't operate the gun if your blood alcohol is under .08

[LiberalArkie]

90. Definitely too sober for the drinking buddies to shoot each other.

[TheMastersNemesis]

5. That's One Less Militia To Deal With. These People Are Truly Insane.

I could care less about that asshole. It takes two militia out. They are making it clear they will shoot anyone who disagrees with them. In the end I fear the militia will instigate firefights with federal employees.

[groundloop]

12. This particular Militia apparently wasn't Well Regulated enough

Gee, I can't imagine why anyone could possibly think that we need to work toward gun safety!

[wordpix]

24. Drunk militia are a public danger. Arrest them

I do wonder what the feds will do now there's been a murder by this group of thugs

[Hortensis]

36. Different group of thugs.

They're related the way you and I are.

[wordpix]

47. Story's line 1 says the march and Oregon standoff are related

I'm going on that

[wordpix]

22. "Instigate firefights with federal employees "

That is exactly what they're itching for to start the "revolution"

[WhiteTara]

69. make that 2...one is off to prison

for murder.

[yellerpup]

6. I am actually okay with them taking each other out.

I'm going to mail them a case of Night Train.

[Lucky Luciano]

7. Proof that evolution by natural selection is real. Darwin Award. nt

[L. Coyote]

8. What can I say? Oh yeah, always keep your gun handy in case someone wants to kill you.

[lastone]

28. And in case that same someone grabs

Your "first" gun, be sure to have a backup concealed ya know - just in case!

Priceless, you can't make this shit up!

[OffWithTheirHeads]

34. Oh Jesus that's funny!

[tularetom]

56. Well, nobody sent her a bag of dicks but she's standing next to a ginormous one

[L. Coyote]

68. DUzy

[justhanginon]

71. We apologize for the order substitution. We were out of the

bags of dicks so instead sent you just one big one. If you would kindly look to your right ..........

[CanonRay]

9. Gee, what a damn shame

[eppur_se_muova]

10. "shot his friend in the head" -- kinda stretches the definition of 'friend' a little bit. nt

[niyad]

63. don't forget, darth cheney shot a "friend" in the face, and the "friend" had to apologize to darth.

[bemildred]

11. If you ignore a problem long enough, sometimes it will fix itself. nt

[Botany]

13. Darwin Award Winner

[Doctor_J]

40. Yep. Evolution is a fact, not a theory. Natural selection in all its glory.

[tom_kelly]

14. In this case...

The only good gun-nut is a gun-nut with a spare gun!

[houston16revival]

16. Times Change

Colonial militia was to protect us from invasion. The US 1776 barely had a navy or
armament manufacturing. Raising able-bodies troops was a worry.

Fast forward Who will protect us from today's 'patriots'?

[muntrv]

17. Culling the herd?

[Hortensis]

38. When I check, they've almost always reproduced already.

[jalan48]

18. Beavis and Butthead get political.

[denvine]

19. Priceless!

[truthisfreedom]

20. What do you give a winger who shoots his friend in the head?

Cheney Award!!!

[SoLeftIAmRight]

41. wow

another good one - this is one thing I love about DU

a little humor - with a strong point

[Enthusiast]

53. More booze, guns and ammo!

[xocet]

21. As it was explained on the "Paul Revere 2016 Final March to Restore America" facebook page...

Paul Revere 2016 Final March to Restore America

I am behooved as to what has happened with Charles Carter and Vincent Smith from the Paul Revere event. The event that sky rocketed in a week has gone to hell and a handbasket in less then 24 hours Charles is dead, shot in the fore head by Vincent Smith. I was in chat with Charles Carter most of the morning and I could see in his post that shit was not right within him. Shortly after Vincent shot Charles then I was on the phone with him and he explained what happened, Vincent was attacked by Charles that was liquored up and enraged. Charles attacked Vincent, snatched his side arm from him and was going to shoot Vincent. Vincent had a spare gun on him and was SOBER and faster then Charles Carter. Vincent Smith I Pray for You Brother as I am Praying for Charles Carter. I Pray that you both find peace. The Texas Marshal has ruled this a self defense, and from talking to Vincent IN DEPTH I Bill Williamson BELIEVE HIM! If I am wrong them so be it. I just wish I was able to call Charles as he ask 15 minutes sooner then I did but unfortunately I couldn't... Lord please help me figure this out, please stop everyone from jumping the gun and making un informed judgments.

https://www.facebook.com/shares/view?id=956727027747579
https://www.facebook.com/Paulrevere2016/timeline

[Coventina]

23. I am behooved? Fore head? Charles that was liquored up and enraged?

Man, you just can't get more hilarious writing from anywhere......

[wordpix]

31. Not exactly well reasoned and your toon says it best

we have to find humor in this situraton cos these buffoons ar danJesus

[gregcrawford]

25. Articulosity aren't him strong soot is they n/t

[Dont call me Shirley]

85. ...

[Doctor_J]

42. Can someone who speaks teabag translate this please?

I'll wait for the English translation to make my "judgment"

[librechik]

50. now somewhere in the wild west there lived a young boy named rocky raccoon...

etc etc etc...shot ol rocky in the eye…

etc--it's all there in the lyrics...

[HassleCat]

78. But he never had a chance to utter the line...

"It's only a scratch."

[whatthehey]

70. Why the quotes on judgment?

[Doctor_J]

73. Hey. You're right. dictionary.com says both are in use.

Oops. Maybe I should join the teabaggers

[whatthehey]

79. Well then I was wrong too.

I was under the impression the middle "e" was incorrect rather than optional.


What is this, Shakespearean England? The idea of optional spellings just seems sloppy to me, but then again I was always a prescriptivist at heart.

[wordpix]

44. Very good tall tale, methinks

So...the unarmed Charles, drunk, snatches Vincent 's sidearm but Vince just happens to have a spare handy and shoots Charles in "self defense." Murder charge solved. And the local sheriff immediately buys the story with no investigation. Uh huh, riiiight... I don't buy this story at all.

[Wounded Bear]

74. I stood my ground....

faster than he did.

[tblue37]

59. ."I am behooved as to what. . . ."--What?? nt

[-none]

81. Behooved?

What does their cattle have to do with this thread?

[Kip Humphrey]

26. Quintessential, adj., representing the most perfect or typical example of a quality or class.

[AllyCat]

27. Just add alcohol

Used to be my stock phrase. Now it will have to include adding lethal weapons.

[hopeforchange2008]

29. Does this mean that it takes a good guy with TWO guns?

[L. Coyote]

33. No, it means if you are in a militia, don't hang out with other guys in a militia.

They are dangerous

[wordpix]

39. Who knows if that two gun tale is even true?

I smell a fish tale

[DisgustipatedinCA]

55. To cover all eventualities, you need at least 3 good guys with at least 7 good guns.

Bet you didn't think I was smart enough to have a backup gun in my underwear AND a body cavity gun for when I'm showering.

[LittleGirl]

30. fellow patriot? good grief eom

[SoapBox]

32. "restore America" my ass.

These freaks want to dictate their crazy and rule with guns, over all Americans, like they are ISIS.

They want what their twisted minds want...not what the Constitution nor millions and millions of Americans want.

Freaks.

[William Seger]

76. "Restore America's" wild west, but with improved armament (n/t)

[Aristus]

35. "I'M A MORE RESPONSIBLE GUN-OWNER THAN YOU!"

"NO, I'M A MORE RESPONSIBLE GUN-OWNER THAN YOU!"

"No, I'm a more-"

BLAMMM!

Nice of one of them to Charles Darwin himself with a Second Amendment solution.

That's one down.

Proceed, fellas...

[wordpix]

37. Does this mean these asshats are leaving malheur refuge to gather their troops?

The story says they want to march across the U.S. to gather more militiamen and remove Obama and congressmen from office. Sounds to me like a coup conspiracy and domestic terrorist plot. Add that to the other federal charges and arrest them already.

And did the murder happen on the refuge? Story doesn't say. If it did, seems to me a fed investigation is warranted, not just a local sheriff investigation.

[Bluenorthwest]

57. It happened in Texas between Texans who are not in fact people from the Bundy Gang but people in the

same right wing political movement. And the story says Grayson County Texas.

[Hortensis]

64. The murder happened in Texas, Wordpix.

Regarding our earlier exchange, the first line is this: "Planning for a cross-country march to “restore America” — which is related to the Oregon nature preserve standoff." It's the march that's related, (march...which) i.e., they have the notion of marching to Oregon, or maybe actually driving. Something like that.

A whole bunch of sillybillies are showing up at Malheur to join the men, women and children already there. They're having a party, mostly in the bunkhouse where it's nice and warm, apparently. According to one journalist the Bundyites are giddy with all the attention, and the women are serving food and drinks to all comers.

A couple of parents brought their 9-year-old girl to see people thinking for themselves (!! ). A Christian from Tennessee said she isn't political but just wanted to share the love as she was passing out cookies at the party. There's that armed group that showed up uninvited to try to steal the spotlight from our original set of crackpots, but they got sent away. And there's this guy, whose costume helped him to stand out from the crowd and get his picture in the paper.

[dembotoz]

43. this plot as a movie would be rejected as too silly

[Johnyawl]

52. The Coen Brothers could make this movie.

[AlbertCat]

54. this plot as a movie would be rejected as too silly

The Coen Bro's will make it cruelly funny.

[Javaman]

45. morons with guns. nt

[alcibiades_mystery]

46. Pew pew

East Gunistan.

[callous taoboy]

86. rat-a-tat-tat

[sinkingfeeling]

48. Can't imagine what could go wrong mixing alcohol and guns

[AlbertCat]

49. but Smith drew a “spare gun”

Always carry several spare guns in case you want to shoot all your friends in the head.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

51. Now that's what I call "well-regulated"!

[Eugene]

58. Not the least bit surprised but I was expecting it to happen in Oregon first.

Someone's idea of a well regulated militia.

[arcane1]

60. I'm glad I was sitting down for that wholly unexpected news!! n/t

[vkkv]

62. THANK GOD!!! Jesus was waiting for a COOL, NEW BUDDY to show up! - -- N/T

[liberal N proud]

65. If there were only more guns

[Katashi_itto]

66. Cleaning the Gene pool. One Bullet at a time.

[MynameisBlarney]

67. Ah yes, once again the Moocher Hadeen illustrates

the reasons we need the ATF.

Fucking morons.

[left-of-center2012]

72. Do any of these people work for a living?

I'm now 70 and retired,
but in my working days I could never just take off and march across America.
I had (and have) responsibilities, bills to pay, etc.

[lark]

75. Oh yeah, accidental killings are so very rare, almost never happen.

This is the 2nd example I've seen in less than a week on DU alone.

[HassleCat]

77. At last I see how they're making America safer.

Finally! It took me a while, but I get it now. By shooting each other, they reduce the number of crazy persons at large. And, for bonus points, they're proving that alcohol and firearms DO mix.

[Ichingcarpenter]

80. I thought DU would enjoy this

for the dark humour I saw in it...........LOL

[Matrosov]

82. Hey man, nice shot

What a good shot, man

[Dont call me Shirley]

84. Is this Poetic Irony or Poetic Justice?

[maxsolomon]

87. Too bad

so sad.

[valerief]

88. Any way these assholes thin their herd is fine with me. nt

[cui bono]

91. What are friends for?