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neverforget

(9,512 posts)
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:04 PM Jan 2016

Bundys in custody, one militant dead after gunfight near Burns

Source: OregonLive

BURNS – One militant is dead and the top leaders of the refuge occupation are in police custody after law enforcement officials stopped vehicles Tuesday afternoon about 15 miles north of Burns.

Ryan Bundy, 43, of Bunkerville, Nev., suffered a minor gunshot wound and was taken into custody in a highway stop conducted by the FBI and the Oregon State Police.

Also arrested were his brother, Ammon Bundy, 40, of Emmett, Idaho, and Ryan W. Payne, 32, of Anaconda, Mont., Brian Cavalier, and Shawna J. Cox, 59, of Kanab, Utah. They were charged with conspiracy to impede federal officers, a felony.

The identity of the person killed in the shootout was not released.

Read more: http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/bundys_in_custody_one_militant.html#incart_big-photo

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Bundys in custody, one militant dead after gunfight near Burns (Original Post) neverforget Jan 2016 OP
CNN covering Trump appearance now underpants Jan 2016 #1
He's the shiny hair of the day nt neverforget Jan 2016 #4
Neat... TipTok Jan 2016 #2
MSNBC also all Trump all the time VMA131Marine Jan 2016 #3
OOPS, If they are convicted padfun Jan 2016 #5
The dead guy can have all the guns he wants VMA131Marine Jan 2016 #8
As long as they're cremated with him. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #37
Can someone please pry his from his cold dead hands for me? (n/t) Moostache Jan 2016 #40
the man IS dead.. but. mac2766 Jan 2016 #49
No disrespect for the dead, but that was really very funny. PatrickforO Jan 2016 #78
Only if they obey the law awoke_in_2003 Jan 2016 #48
Where is Lavoy Finicum? VMA131Marine Jan 2016 #6
maybe he's hiding under his tarp at the refuge neverforget Jan 2016 #9
Oh man! catchnrelease Jan 2016 #43
I do wonder if he is the dead militant MissB Jan 2016 #13
Raw Story reporting it's Finicum womanofthehills Jan 2016 #33
reports are he is the deceased handmade34 Jan 2016 #17
Not Finicum, noooooooooooooo... He was tarpman. :( Gregorian Jan 2016 #22
He was the brains of the outfit. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #44
Saw that also on Freeperville VMA131Marine Jan 2016 #26
So is RimJob land in full meltdown mode tonight? 47of74 Jan 2016 #39
Trump pullout is melting them; Oregon is getting some traffic too Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2016 #72
Just how fast vsn they type "bang bang" on those keyboards? 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #80
I hope they bury him with his tarp! Marrah_G Jan 2016 #32
he mercuryblues Jan 2016 #77
He was the one who died. n/t Tess49 Jan 2016 #50
He was the one killed. n/t pamela Jan 2016 #58
What they are charged with elmac Jan 2016 #7
There are going to be a ton of charges underpants Jan 2016 #10
I'd bet a boatload of additional charges are coming VMA131Marine Jan 2016 #12
Correct elmac Jan 2016 #16
Sad to say, at this point I'll settle for this jmowreader Jan 2016 #14
WAY overdue! elias49 Jan 2016 #11
True, but they had to wait until they left in a significant number. Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #20
Indeed you're right. There's a lot in the "news" lately elias49 Jan 2016 #29
I guess he has all the snacks he wants now. Feeling the Bern Jan 2016 #15
If nothing else rpannier Jan 2016 #25
bout time PatrynXX Jan 2016 #18
dissappointment more were not shot and arrested. Cayenne Jan 2016 #34
I wonder why it took an entire season to arrest them. Gregorian Jan 2016 #19
dead glinda Jan 2016 #79
Excellent phantom power Jan 2016 #21
They're just lucky that they weren't a black guy selling cigarettes Orrex Jan 2016 #23
According to twitter elmac Jan 2016 #24
The Oregon newspaper said Pete Santilli has also been arested. Quixote1818 Jan 2016 #66
I am glad that none of the residents of harney county were harmed. now, in addition niyad Jan 2016 #27
Twitter is frickin' hysterical tonight Marrah_G Jan 2016 #28
dupe L. Coyote Jan 2016 #30
How stupid mdbl Jan 2016 #31
KnR. I hope the Feds get ALL of those whackadoo terrorists. Hekate Jan 2016 #35
A much better outcome than would have been achieved by storming the building with guns blazing, Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #36
About damn time. Dr. Forrester Jan 2016 #38
So, they got their martyr, huh? GoCubsGo Jan 2016 #41
I don't take any solace in the death bvf Jan 2016 #63
I just worry this will create another Tim McVeigh. GoCubsGo Jan 2016 #81
I wonder if this could come into play.... revmclaren Jan 2016 #42
I wonder how many of these idiots are flying blue tarps at half mast. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #45
Their brains are already at half-mast n/t JesterCS Jan 2016 #53
I wanted this to end but - Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2016 #46
They bulldozed their way through an archaeological site on federal land: Federal crime morningglory Jan 2016 #61
... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #47
I'm stunned anyone of them were taken alive. KentuckyWoman Jan 2016 #51
These are bullies.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #54
They were such a pitiful bunch. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #68
It was only a matter of time... nt Earth_First Jan 2016 #52
From Freeperland Cartoonist Jan 2016 #55
Harper's Ferry? They're not John Brown. neverforget Jan 2016 #56
Talk about clueless Lordquinton Jan 2016 #69
This says, one dead and 7 captured by FYI and state police. sinkingfeeling Jan 2016 #57
Video of crazy guy from NY trying to get to burns while drunk driving Marrah_G Jan 2016 #59
They're already floating the claim that Tarpman was shot with his hands up starroute Jan 2016 #60
so now they want to claim "hands up don't shoot"? restorefreedom Jan 2016 #64
No doubt along with a round of #whitelivesmatter starroute Jan 2016 #65
truly unfrickinbelievable. nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #67
Comment on the Oregonlive article: central scrutinizer Jan 2016 #73
Tarpman publicly said he was not going to jail and I guess he meant it. yellowcanine Jan 2016 #75
Yes they are atreides1 Jan 2016 #76
When does our public wildlife refuge re-open? ffr Jan 2016 #62
Apparently the ISIS sympathizer David Fry still holding out and making threats. yellowcanine Jan 2016 #74
Good. Not that one person died, but intheflow Jan 2016 #70
Sad someone had to die, but I am glad that this situation is winding down. n/t demmiblue Jan 2016 #71
 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
2. Neat...
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:05 PM
Jan 2016

Smarter to snatch em up on the road instead of at their fortified position at the compound.

VMA131Marine

(5,158 posts)
26. Saw that also on Freeperville
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:24 PM
Jan 2016

Not exactly a reliable source but he did say he wouldn't be taken alive.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
72. Trump pullout is melting them; Oregon is getting some traffic too
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:57 AM
Jan 2016
These are the first shots of a new revolution. His death will be avenged.

With GOP victories that put 2014 in the shade. This is gonna turn out a certain segment of the white vote, with a vengeance. The GOP will benefit at the polls. I suspect Ruby Ridge did a number on George HW Bush's numbers in 1992, and Waco had a big impact on 1994's GOP takeover of Congress.
17 posted on 2016-01-27, 1:46:43 AM by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)



Robert "LaVoy" Finicum was killed in a shootout

First time I've ever seen a planned ambush by people with body armor, fully automatic weapons, emplaced snipers and tactical superiority as a "shootout"...

The Fibbie gearqueers get REAL TOUGH when Hillary gives them their manparts back for a day or so...
18 posted on 2016-01-27, 3:43:03 AM by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw&quot
 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
80. Just how fast vsn they type "bang bang" on those keyboards?
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:50 AM
Jan 2016

And how effective will it be in avenging his death?

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
7. What they are charged with
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:09 PM
Jan 2016

18 U.S. Code § 372 - Conspiracy to impede or injure officer

If two or more persons in any State, Territory, Possession, or District conspire to prevent, by force, intimidation, or threat, any person from accepting or holding any office, trust, or place of confidence under the United States, or from discharging any duties thereof, or to induce by like means any officer of the United States to leave the place, where his duties as an officer are required to be performed, or to injure him in his person or property on account of his lawful discharge of the duties of his office, or while engaged in the lawful discharge thereof, or to injure his property so as to molest, interrupt, hinder, or impede him in the discharge of his official duties, each of such persons shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six years, or both.

VMA131Marine

(5,158 posts)
12. I'd bet a boatload of additional charges are coming
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:12 PM
Jan 2016

the conspiracy charge just keeps them in custody

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
16. Correct
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:17 PM
Jan 2016

if they didn't put up a fight they probably would have been charged with something connected to the occupation, which will be added later I'm sure.

jmowreader

(52,877 posts)
14. Sad to say, at this point I'll settle for this
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:16 PM
Jan 2016

Conviction on this will cost them any benefit they may have received from the government, and it takes away their right to possess firearms.

However, if they're convicted of even half the shit they've done in this standoff, they will never experience life outside prison walls again.

Qutzupalotl

(15,655 posts)
20. True, but they had to wait until they left in a significant number.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:20 PM
Jan 2016

Attacking them at the refuge would have meant a LOT more loss of life, plus they become "legends."

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
29. Indeed you're right. There's a lot in the "news" lately
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:28 PM
Jan 2016

making this low key. Although we'll have to wait and see how the MSM treats it over the net coupe of days.
It might be instructive!

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
18. bout time
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:18 PM
Jan 2016

although I didn't expect coming in here to see a post hidden for defending someone else but on other news life goes on outside the hate that seems to be infecting DU

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
24. According to twitter
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:22 PM
Jan 2016

OREGON STANDOFF, ARRESTED
-Ammon Bundy
-Ryan Bundy
-Brian Cavalie
-Shawna Cox
-Ryan Waylen Payne
-Joseph O'Shaughnessy

LaVoy Finicum killed

niyad

(129,391 posts)
27. I am glad that none of the residents of harney county were harmed. now, in addition
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:26 PM
Jan 2016

to whatever prison time these yahoos might get (and not holding my breath there), I would love to see all their assets seized and given to harney county and malheur.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
28. Twitter is frickin' hysterical tonight
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:28 PM
Jan 2016

I can't stop laughing at the Bundytools. They say blue tarpman is dead. Live by the gun, die by the gun.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
36. A much better outcome than would have been achieved by storming the building with guns blazing,
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:34 PM
Jan 2016

as quite a few folks advocated.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
63. I don't take any solace in the death
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:38 AM
Jan 2016

but they can have their bullshit martyr. I'm sure a lot of armchair warriors cheering them on will be disappointed there weren't more.

This is good news.

GoCubsGo

(34,644 posts)
81. I just worry this will create another Tim McVeigh.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:39 PM
Jan 2016

But, yeah, I am glad that the kooks will be disappointed that they only get one of them.

revmclaren

(2,613 posts)
42. I wonder if this could come into play....
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:40 PM
Jan 2016

Felony Murder Rule

Most forms of murder require an intent to commit death. Felony murder only requires the intent to commit the felony. During the course of the felony, any homicide will be considered murder, whether it's intentional or accidental. This is called the felony murder rule.

Under the felony murder rule, all participants of a felony can be charged with murder if a homicide occurs. This is true even if a participant isn't directly responsible for the death. For example, the driver of a getaway car can be charged with felony murder if his partner accidently shoots someone while attempting to rob a bank. The purpose for the felony murder rule is to deter people from engaging in felonies knowing that they can be liable for the actions of their partners.

more here.

http://criminal.lawyers.com/criminal-law-basics/murder-during-the-commission-of-a-felony.html


These geniuses really screwed up.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
46. I wanted this to end but -
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:51 PM
Jan 2016

not with a death.

Glad everyone else is alive to face the charges they so richly deserve.

morningglory

(2,336 posts)
61. They bulldozed their way through an archaeological site on federal land: Federal crime
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:06 AM
Jan 2016

No telling what other laws have been broken.

leftyladyfrommo

(19,953 posts)
68. They were such a pitiful bunch.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:05 AM
Jan 2016

I am really glad they are gone. And I am glad it wasn't a mass shootout. Much better this way.

They had every chance to get out of there.

Cartoonist

(7,579 posts)
55. From Freeperland
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:24 PM
Jan 2016

I won't post any quotes, they're that disgusting. I can only hope that they represent a very small % of Americans.

One tried to liken it to Harper's Ferry. Another said a patriot was murdered. But what made me sorry I went there was #citizenslivesdon'tmatter.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
69. Talk about clueless
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 01:14 AM
Jan 2016

The feds went over and beyond the call to prevent any loss of life.

I don't want to advocate for anyone's death, but the response to these terrorists has been sad and revealing.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
60. They're already floating the claim that Tarpman was shot with his hands up
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:37 PM
Jan 2016

That one came by in a thread on Facebook. I really hope there's video of the shootout to prove that TarpmanShotFirst.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
65. No doubt along with a round of #whitelivesmatter
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:53 AM
Jan 2016

Nothing like white supremacists playing the victim card.

central scrutinizer

(12,648 posts)
73. Comment on the Oregonlive article:
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:06 AM
Jan 2016

"White privilege is vowing never to be taken alive and still have people claim you were killed while trying to surrender"

atreides1

(16,799 posts)
76. Yes they are
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:01 AM
Jan 2016

But that came from Bundy...told to his father! Also said that he was unarmed...but that's hard to believe!

ffr

(23,322 posts)
62. When does our public wildlife refuge re-open?
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:29 AM
Jan 2016

That's what I want to know.

That, and when are they going to pay the reclamation fines for the damage done! MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF THESE TURDS!!

yellowcanine

(36,714 posts)
74. Apparently the ISIS sympathizer David Fry still holding out and making threats.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 09:44 AM
Jan 2016

Heard on NPR this morning coming in. He is claiming LaVoy was murdered and telling the FBI it has to come and get him and he has a gun.

intheflow

(29,973 posts)
70. Good. Not that one person died, but
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:37 AM
Jan 2016

that the Feds finally did something about these freakin' terrorists. They better not have done anything stupid like shooting someone in the back or with his hands up. Please let this be a clean take-down of these treasonist bastards.

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