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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:30 PM Feb 2016

Sobbing Bernie Sanders Volunteer Goes Viral With Tale of ‘Sick’ Trump Voters

Last edited Thu Feb 25, 2016, 06:06 PM - Edit history (3)

Source: Mediaite.com 2:28 pm, February 24th, 2016

A young woman named Chelsea is burning up the Youtubes with her tearful tale of phone-banking for Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and running into scores of “really sick people” who are voting for Republican frontrunner Donald Trump. The four-minute clip was apparently posted on Facebook, but has racked up hundreds of thousands of views on YouTube.

In the clip, “Chelsea” addresses the camera directly, and kind of goes to pieces immediately because, while phone-banking the deep South states for Super Tuesday, she kept running into Trump supporters who actually refer to human beings as animals: Hi, Facebook. It’s Chelsea. So today I hosted a phone bank for Bernie Sanders, and, uh, we were calling the states — like, a lot of Deep South states — for Super Tuesday. And I’ve never gotten emotional over politics before, and I’m still learning, and I think it’s really important. But I think it’s really important that everyone knows that, um, the people that we called, many of them, unsurprisingly, were voting for Trump. Umm, and I just want you to know that the people that are voting for him are really sick people that refer to human beings as animals, and it actually made me sick. It was really disheartening.

And I don’t think anyone that’s human that has feelings and sense can sit through hours of talking to people that believe that, um, just because you weren’t born in the United States or even if you were and you’re not white – which, I don’t know what qualifies you as “white” anymore – it makes you not a human being. There were a lot of comments about just building walls and getting rid of the Mexicans and – and, um, hearing… hearing that for hours was so horrible. And it was really, really nice, uh, when you would get people that answered that were for Bernie, or even Hillary. There were very few Republicans and conservatives that would answer the phone and be kind, that wouldn’t have something horrible to say.

So , if you’re not politically involved, that’s fine. But I think that you should know what’s going on. People are actually saying disgusting things like this, and it’s real, and I couldn’t type it out because it was so, so horrible. Um, and that’s that. It was really interesting. It’s still a really a magnificent thing to do to be involved, but, um, it was really hard, and it was not at all like calling the other states, um, and calling Nevada. Uh, and , you know, these are people that think that they won the Civil War. Uh, it’s like talking to less than a brick wall. Um, I don’t even know how to describe it. So this is just coming from someone who did some phone banking on Saturday. Have a good night.

Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/online/sobbing-bernie-sanders-volunteer-goes-viral-with-tale-of-sick-trump-voters/



even said it was nice to hear from Hillary supporters in the deep south, bless her heart --this is what the general election may look like in the deep south!
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Sobbing Bernie Sanders Volunteer Goes Viral With Tale of ‘Sick’ Trump Voters (Original Post) big_dog Feb 2016 OP
The deep south can be somewhat eyeopening. People there call it "the war of northern aggression" peacebird Feb 2016 #1
I have lived here most of my life Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #3
But lancer78 Feb 2016 #139
I have heard racist statements from relatives, Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #140
I don't disagree, but I think it's everywhere. phylny Feb 2016 #143
I lived there for 5 years elljay Feb 2016 #10
There were plenty of educated and smart people who were bigoted to the core. AlbertCat Feb 2016 #138
The 20% elljay Feb 2016 #145
And if somehow a law was passed to allow slavery again, passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #49
What a load of crap. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #62
Are you one of the people the young lady called passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #66
I have lived all over and up north and the midwest are by far more racist today. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #67
You may well be right, although from my experiences on-line passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #80
You must've visited the Midwest in the 1950's lbrtbell Feb 2016 #110
+1 obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #120
Born and raised in NC. cwydro Feb 2016 #100
I lived in NC and SC and never heard it there either, but I said DEEP SOUTH. peacebird Feb 2016 #112
I've never heard anyone even talk about the Civil War here. cwydro Feb 2016 #113
One of the reasons it so surprised me in Louisiana is because it was something people do not peacebird Feb 2016 #115
Yes, I would be surprised if I heard that too. cwydro Feb 2016 #116
Me either -- NC and FL obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #121
Yeah we North Carolinians honestly live on the cusp of north and south. retrowire Feb 2016 #148
I have NEVER heard the Civil War called that. AlbertCat Feb 2016 #150
I feel bad for her...calling and canvassing is difficult work CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #2
This is why I've always questioned the "Sanders can really bring in Independents" argument. brooklynite Feb 2016 #6
For God's sake she is a young lady and it was very disgusting what bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #31
I find the lack of empathy from some of these commenters reprehensible and disgusting. Bubzer Feb 2016 #47
+100 narnian60 Feb 2016 #106
... nice... Bubzer Feb 2016 #44
Yeah, because all independents are racists from the South. passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #48
That's sick and I can imagine you sounding like one of the people this lady called rockfordfile Feb 2016 #69
Well, I actually did get some Independents and a few Republicans to my caucus CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #74
iowans would never be like that on the phones big_dog Feb 2016 #8
Slavery rarely ends pretty or without bloodshed of some sort. AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #11
lets hope we dont have to bring back the union redleggers big_dog Feb 2016 #13
This time, let a dog eat. Ruff ruff!! Missn-Hitch Feb 2016 #95
Was just in Arkansas Helga Scow Stern Feb 2016 #129
It can be challenging when we have our heart in it and get an ass on the other end. JudyM Feb 2016 #9
We are in a battle for minds! HenryWallace Feb 2016 #63
+1 Person 2713 Feb 2016 #77
That's not a independent rockfordfile Feb 2016 #70
the dirty underbelly of our Country...Trump validates their hate. Demonaut Feb 2016 #4
I don't doubt those people are there... brooklynite Feb 2016 #5
Amen. Why are they calling these people? treestar Feb 2016 #24
There are a lot of DINO's in the Deep South and it's mostly an open primary. Renew Deal Feb 2016 #109
the open primary thing kind of amazes me treestar Feb 2016 #118
Certainly a good thing for your candidate truebluegreen Feb 2016 #154
well it's not Democratic to let Republicans help pick the candidate treestar Feb 2016 #158
Didn't say it was. truebluegreen Feb 2016 #160
It's always Sanders fault. bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #32
Another swipe? passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #54
The DNC list would be filtered...which tells me Sanders is getting additional lists elsewhere brooklynite Feb 2016 #82
You think Hillary doesn't work with other lists? passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #83
I think she's trying to avoid speculative Independents and Republicans... brooklynite Feb 2016 #85
And you could well be right passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #89
If you are going to win the GE in a red state cannabis_flower Feb 2016 #86
Sanders has a tremendous number of volunteers doing calls newthinking Feb 2016 #94
Gee, I was told Sanders stole his lists from Hillary. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #72
When I called, I had different calls lists CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #76
He does, and he'll kill the meme that Clinton's firewall is solid this weekend. The Redheaded Guy Feb 2016 #155
I didn't denigrate any Bernie supporters; I raised a question about Bernie's campaign... brooklynite Feb 2016 #156
Poor thing, but good on her for making the effort, putting herself out there. closeupready Feb 2016 #7
the RW has picked this up KT2000 Feb 2016 #12
Oh yeah, right-wing radio CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #78
Damn! The comments on YouTube are vicious. Unknown Beatle Feb 2016 #14
"I prefer my females to be real women..." narnian60 Feb 2016 #104
It means he doesn't have any "real women" and never did. JHB Feb 2016 #119
Love your Bowie gif barbiegeek Feb 2016 #141
Thanks! Unknown Beatle Feb 2016 #142
The absolute filth of this society Loki Feb 2016 #15
She was spot on with her Civil War comment. LonePirate Feb 2016 #16
The US government screwed up at the end of the civil war. olddad56 Feb 2016 #19
Abe dropped the ball. Missn-Hitch Feb 2016 #96
This breaks my heart. democrank Feb 2016 #17
This can't be real. LisaM Feb 2016 #18
are you saying that she should not have taken the job because she had feelings? olddad56 Feb 2016 #20
Of course I'm not saying that. LisaM Feb 2016 #33
l've done this and it's real but roguevalley Feb 2016 #37
I don't think it's real either. She's not a child but acts like one. I have virgogal Feb 2016 #39
Her behavior makes sense to someone who has empathy and compassion. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #42
Sobbing is not required in order to have empathy and compassion. virgogal Feb 2016 #46
Yeah iamthebandfanman Feb 2016 #56
I sobbed like mad after watching the How The West Was Lost PBS series. I was naive, did not know Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #60
So if I called southern voters and heard these things and didn't sob, I don't have compassion adigal Feb 2016 #125
Each person reacts in their own way, one way or the other of reacting to learning of horror is not Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #132
It's not the crying after doing a hard job - it's putting it on Facebook LisaM Feb 2016 #51
man, you are cynical virtualobserver Feb 2016 #153
She said she had been calling voters for three hours CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #79
My daughters and grandaughters would have been repelled by the racism but virgogal Feb 2016 #128
Not everyone deals with experiences and emotions CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #136
She shouldn't have taken it. 21st Century Poet Feb 2016 #59
This is why, to the dismay of our local Democratic group, phylny Feb 2016 #144
Cold-calling is not for the faint of heart. 21st Century Poet Feb 2016 #157
It certainly can be real. PADemD Feb 2016 #38
I phone banked only 1yr and couldnt deal with the Duppers Feb 2016 #98
That's heartbreaking. myrna minx Feb 2016 #21
I see no hope unless the Fed Govt takes over all education in the USA. /nt NCjack Feb 2016 #22
That's why I said Trump is proof that "Idiocrocy" is a documentary. Trump said he has litlbilly Feb 2016 #28
and the repubs would like the poorly eduacated to be the majority of this country. We are almost litlbilly Feb 2016 #29
I used to think Eko Feb 2016 #73
Her call list must not be democrats only Beaverhausen Feb 2016 #23
Yeah, my thought too obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #26
Well, I Beg To Differ With You... I Live In Florida & I Could Tell YOU ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #55
You realize you just agreed with me, right? obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #64
Those are northerners acting like that in Florida. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #65
Everyone I work with who is sketchy like that obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #122
Yeah, what list were they using? Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #30
She seems like a nice girl. tabasco Feb 2016 #25
She needs warrprayer Feb 2016 #27
In what conceivable way is this breaking news? nt sufrommich Feb 2016 #34
I just noticed it's in LBN obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #36
Racial hatred. I don't know how we can overcome it. jalan48 Feb 2016 #35
Sorry. I smell hoax. EL34x4 Feb 2016 #40
I'm glad I'm not the only one. LisaM Feb 2016 #41
I find myself wondering if it's a bit of ratfuckery intended to discourage would-be phonebankers winter is coming Feb 2016 #71
I think it's bullshit too. cwydro Feb 2016 #101
Who could benefit so much from this video that it's 'too good be true'? Eric J in MN Feb 2016 #50
shhh iamthebandfanman Feb 2016 #57
It's not that people don't believe those types of responses are very likely PersonNumber503602 Feb 2016 #126
This. A thousand times this. nt Codeine Feb 2016 #81
Not knowing her background.... Missn-Hitch Feb 2016 #97
I agree. This is not a hoax. Duppers Feb 2016 #99
Thank you. narnian60 Feb 2016 #105
I just want to give her a hug. I hate 'cold calling' as Trump just called his own - the "uneducated" Sunlei Feb 2016 #43
my dream fierywoman Feb 2016 #45
She's got guts, both to cold call and to bare her soul like that BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #52
Not impressed 21st Century Poet Feb 2016 #53
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #58
Not trying to fool anybody 21st Century Poet Feb 2016 #68
You're right, she's probably making it up. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2016 #88
I don't believe it ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2016 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author kimbutgar Feb 2016 #75
Your post is really something. cwydro Feb 2016 #102
I agree -- wtf obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #123
Just remember while you're giggling over the thought of ppl giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #151
This is a key problem with the energetic young, the milennials. Many don't have a clue about the Jitter65 Feb 2016 #84
Of course Hillary supporters don't see racism as a problem. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2016 #87
Trump and his voters are a scary bunch liberalfromaustin21 Feb 2016 #90
A friend on facebook posted about having the same experience calling SC. mackdaddy Feb 2016 #91
But... does she love cats? Heeeeers Johnny Feb 2016 #92
What's To Gain? PCPrincess Feb 2016 #93
Oh what great compassion...Not! Duppers Feb 2016 #114
I don't think he's mocking, but rather believes the person in the video is playing a character PersonNumber503602 Feb 2016 #127
Okay. Thank you. Duppers Feb 2016 #130
I'm still on the fence about this newest video. PersonNumber503602 Feb 2016 #131
Trump, Limbaugh, etc. have validated their hatred and behavior. Duppers Feb 2016 #133
It's the right response to be disheartened and upset My Good Babushka Feb 2016 #103
Well said. narnian60 Feb 2016 #108
Crying into a selfie that you post seems a bit contrived. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2016 #134
+1 demmiblue Feb 2016 #146
Embarrassing. PeteSelman Feb 2016 #107
the world may be ugly and mean sometimes big_dog Feb 2016 #135
It's not. PeteSelman Feb 2016 #137
I've lived in FL 30 years, TX 3 years, and now PA... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #111
This is sad. alarimer Feb 2016 #117
OK, she's a little overly sensitive, or just very naive adigal Feb 2016 #124
Yep, sounds about right. retrowire Feb 2016 #147
To all of you who think this is fake, I can confirm that as a 28 yr old male retrowire Feb 2016 #149
I'm sorry this happened to her LyndaG Feb 2016 #152
Bigotry is everywhere. Stupidity is not regional. nruthie Feb 2016 #159
For anyone in this country to call any humans animals is un-American. They are not America. ancianita Feb 2016 #161

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
1. The deep south can be somewhat eyeopening. People there call it "the war of northern aggression"
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:36 PM
Feb 2016

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Seriously. I thought it was tongue in cheek initially, but no. Totally not.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
3. I have lived here most of my life
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:42 PM
Feb 2016

and I can tell you for certain that we are not in a "post-racial" society, and probably never will be.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
139. But
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:00 PM
Feb 2016

CJ Roberts said that we lived in a post racial society. If he spent some time down here, he would see just how ignorant his statement was.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
140. I have heard racist statements from relatives,
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:33 PM
Feb 2016

co-workers, and strangers. It was all OK, because, you know, no black people were around. It was just us "white folk".

phylny

(8,380 posts)
143. I don't disagree, but I think it's everywhere.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:06 PM
Feb 2016

A former Navy pilot and current airline pilot talked to a family member of mine about Obama, or as he said, "That f****** Muslim n*****." My husband walked away, disgusted.

He's from and still lives in New Jersey.

elljay

(1,178 posts)
10. I lived there for 5 years
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:50 PM
Feb 2016

and yes, they still are fighting that war. The first month I was there (in grad school) I went to a music festival with some classmates, all from the North. There was a comic act and they proceeded to tell a series of dumb Yankee jokes that got the audience rolling on the floor. It was an eye-opener for us, as we had all learned about the "late unpleasantness" (another widely-used euphemism) in history class and hadn't though about it otherwise. We spoke in whispers after that for fear someone would hear our northern accents.

I had gone to the South believing that there were racists, as in the North, but they were concentrated among the uneducated and unintelligent. Boy, was I wrong. There were plenty of educated and smart people who were bigoted to the core. A neighbor, a very nice man from Alabama who did a lot of volunteer work with the Special Olympics, showed me a treasured family photo. It was of his grandfather, along with a large number of other men, all in their Klan sheets, posing for a group photo of the town's KKK chapter. He explained to me how the Klan was a self-protection group. Didn't make this Jew feel very secure! I know there are many good people living there, but I will not go back to the South again by choice.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
138. There were plenty of educated and smart people who were bigoted to the core.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:51 PM
Feb 2016

True of up North too...


and West


and Midwest

Actually, these days, unlike in the past, I think the South may not the worst for this anymore. Obama's election brought out all the bigots from under the sink, and it is mind boggling how distributed they are. I think the western states are catching up fast!

elljay

(1,178 posts)
145. The 20%
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:46 PM
Feb 2016

of Trump supporters who think the Emancipation Proclamation was a bad idea (not to mention the 17% who were "not sure&quot threw me for a loop. I know the math (20% of Trump's 35% of the Republicans) but still didn't expect that many people to be nostalgic for slavery. This may be the biggest mental health problem in the U.S.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
49. And if somehow a law was passed to allow slavery again,
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:36 PM
Feb 2016

They'd be all over it...Yay, we get to have slaves again.

As a matter of fact, they would probably want immigrants crossing the border then...they could turn them into slaves. Oh wait...we already are, in many cases.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
66. Are you one of the people the young lady called
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:27 PM
Feb 2016

Who called Hispanics (and maybe blacks) animals, or worse (since she would not repeat what they said)?

then you aren't one of the ones I'm talking about. And yes, it was hyperbole...sometimes that is used to make a point.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
80. You may well be right, although from my experiences on-line
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:08 PM
Feb 2016

were I talk to people all over the US and world, I have not encountered that. I have been in discussions with people in the south who were adamantly in defense of the confederate flag, who insisted that the civil war was not about slavery. They were in complete denial. I've been in a lot more conversations with people from the Midwest, the East and the Northwest (where I am from) and have never seen signs of racism in those conversations. I guess it's a matter of personal experience flavoring our perspective.

However, I admit I do not hang out on forums full of racists, bigots, homophobes, or misogynists. I am a liberal progressive who gravitates to other liberal progressives, so you may very well be right. I know Oregon, where I live, is supposedly a very racist state (although I've not seen it). I have not seen it in places where have lived. But again, my friends tend to be nice liberal people. I would not hang with a hateful racist or bigot...ever.

But this thread is about people in the south that this young woman encountered in her phone canvassing. It's not about the rest of the US.

lbrtbell

(2,389 posts)
110. You must've visited the Midwest in the 1950's
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 07:56 AM
Feb 2016

I live here now, and it's amazing how race relations have improved. Even in the tiny town where I live, which is filled with Republicans, people are amazingly cool with people of other races. Even the ones who are racist have to be quiet about it, or risk horrified reactions.

In my town alone, black kids aren't hassled in school. My friend's daughter is dating a black guy, and nobody gives their family grief for it.

Heck, even in the 1970's, I went to elementary school with a black Jehovah's Witness child. He was never hassled. Ironically, I was the one who got hassled because I was a straight-A student!

To claim the Midwest is more racist than the South is simply absurd.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
100. Born and raised in NC.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 07:13 AM
Feb 2016

I've lived in NC, SC, Florida, and have friends throughout the south.

I have NEVER heard the Civil War called that.

Btw, "aggression" is spelled as I just spelled it, not with one g as you did.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
112. I lived in NC and SC and never heard it there either, but I said DEEP SOUTH.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:09 AM
Feb 2016

I heard it extensively in Mississippi & Louisiana last spring on vacation.

Thanks for noting the typo on "aggression", it's been fixed now.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
113. I've never heard anyone even talk about the Civil War here.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:13 AM
Feb 2016

It's just not a subject that comes up much.

Except in jest.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
115. One of the reasons it so surprised me in Louisiana is because it was something people do not
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:16 AM
Feb 2016

usually hear talked about, and I had never heard it referred to as "the war of northern aggression" before.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
116. Yes, I would be surprised if I heard that too.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:25 AM
Feb 2016

I'd assume they were joking.

And if it was clear they were not, I'd have to ask, "you're joking, right?"

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
148. Yeah we North Carolinians honestly live on the cusp of north and south.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:38 PM
Feb 2016

So, NC is patchy. If you've spent time in places like Lillington or Dunn, then you might hear such things. If you're around RTP, you're fine.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
150. I have NEVER heard the Civil War called that.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:24 PM
Feb 2016

I live in NC too... and I have heard it call that.... but not seriously

Using "the late unpleasantness" or "the war of Northern Aggression" is usually meant as a joke on people who think the South shall rise again.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
2. I feel bad for her...calling and canvassing is difficult work
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:38 PM
Feb 2016

The Sanders campaign in Iowa had us contacting some Republicans and Independents, as well as Democrats. I imagine that this is the Sander's strategy in all of these states. Sanders does appeal to some Rs and many Independents.

Most of the Independents on my list were right leaning. My suburb is pretty conservative and most of the Indies around here trend conservative. The specific neighborhoods in my precinct are very Republican and I DREADED having to call certain subdivisions (McMansionvilles), because I knew it was going to be difficult.

I rarely had to deal with anyone who was even rude. "Iowa nice" really is a real thing. I don't think I had anyone hang up on me. Just a few that said that they would not be supporting Sanders.

However, I can see the potential for some major abuse to be heaped upon a Sanders caller/canvasser in specific areas of the country.

I just want to hug her and tell her that she is braver than hell for making these calls. She's a lot stronger than she realizes---and I'm glad she's venting. I hope the video goes viral and is a testament to how sick Trump and some of his supporters are.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
31. For God's sake she is a young lady and it was very disgusting what
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:46 PM
Feb 2016

she had to hear from racist creeps for hours...has nothing to do with your comment.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
47. I find the lack of empathy from some of these commenters reprehensible and disgusting.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:32 PM
Feb 2016

I don't know how they can call themselves democrats, progressives or liberals.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
74. Well, I actually did get some Independents and a few Republicans to my caucus
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:09 PM
Feb 2016

So, in my opinion--Sander's strategy was very sound. There were many other precinct captains with whom I worked and they indicated that Independents and some Republicans were caucusing for Sanders.

It depends on the area. "Independent" in my neighborhood means something very different from what it means a few miles away in my same town. I imagine that in liberal areas of the state, especially in college towns--those areas are ripe with left-leaning Independents Going after them would be a smart strategy. I imagine Sanders did.

Also, 42 percent of Iowans identify as Independent. They're the largest voting block in the state, so it makes sense that he didn't ignore them. Nationally, Independents are probably around 30 percent of the electorate--so any GE campaign will have to target them if they want to win. Getting a jump on that in the primaries could be helpful.

I met with Sanders in a small classroom with other precinct captains and he specifically asked us what kind of feedback we were getting from Republicans and Indies. I think that was the first question he asked us. Others spoke and said that they were getting some Republicans to caucus for Sanders--as well as Indies.

I think this strategy paid off for Sanders. However, I think that it's necessary to take into account the state/regional demographics. Maybe it isn't so worthwhile in extremely conservative areas in red states. It could discourage/burn out your volunteers, with little payoff.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
8. iowans would never be like that on the phones
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:47 PM
Feb 2016

deep in georgia or the carlolinas, another matter. they've really never gotten over Sherman and his march to the sea in 1865!

Helga Scow Stern

(3,889 posts)
129. Was just in Arkansas
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:16 PM
Feb 2016

We visited a local museum. Its wall display of the Civil War was titled "The War of Northern Aggression". The curator, who kindly opened the museum for us, said that Sherman would have been executed if caught and that the Civil War should have never happened. Slavery would have collapsed on its own because it was too expensive. When I asked about the history of POC in the area (there was nothing on display) he told a story of how a kindly plantation owner had given his slaves freedom and land.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
9. It can be challenging when we have our heart in it and get an ass on the other end.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:50 PM
Feb 2016

Best to politely thank them, fill in "strong other" and move along, because some of them have some anger venting to do.

 

HenryWallace

(332 posts)
63. We are in a battle for minds!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:16 PM
Feb 2016

Grew up in Iowa
25+ Years in Texas
8+ Years back in Iowa

Iowa is every bit as "wacked" as Texas! Compare the Congressional delegations, the State Governments, etc. Look at the gun bill that just pass the Iowa House; it's frightening!

30 Years ago these people would be solid members of the John Birch Society; there views would not be tolerated in polite society. There families, friends, clergy would have dealt with them. Right wing media has desensitized and legitimized this element and made converts of the great uninterested middle.

An integral part of the "Revolution" has to be a long-term effort to rehabilitate reason, empathy, and a sense of common destiny.

brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
5. I don't doubt those people are there...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:45 PM
Feb 2016

...what I don't understand is why Sanders doesn't have lists of more promising prospects.

Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
109. There are a lot of DINO's in the Deep South and it's mostly an open primary.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 07:49 AM
Feb 2016

Kentucky for example is majority Democrat.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
118. the open primary thing kind of amazes me
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:32 AM
Feb 2016

makes the super delegates seem like perhaps a good thing. The way we pick the nominee allows nonDemocrats to infiltrate the process.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
154. Certainly a good thing for your candidate
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:50 PM
Feb 2016

since many or most are already pledged to her, even before most votes are cast. How non-democratic.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
160. Didn't say it was.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:55 AM
Feb 2016

I just find it interesting that you complain about non-Democratic voters influencing the Democratic choice, but have no problem with non-democratic delegates having the ability to possibly over-rule the Democratic voters.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
54. Another swipe?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:57 PM
Feb 2016

she said they are doing outreach to southern states.

But of course, in your eyes, everyone on their "call lists" are Trump supporters.

Bernie and Hillary get their names from the same list at DNC? I guess DNC has screwed up and added a lot of Trump supporters to their lists by mistake?

I think it's obvious that reaching out to voters on the other side is useful. You may not always connect with someone who will listen, but when you do, you might also be reaching one more person who might help spread the word, and eventually change a few minds, who might then go on to spread the word, and change a few minds...etc. etc.



brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
82. The DNC list would be filtered...which tells me Sanders is getting additional lists elsewhere
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:14 PM
Feb 2016

Doesn't sound cost-effective.

MAYE the problem is this insistence that Sanders can "appeal to independents" rather than focusing on the Democratic base voters. I understand there are a lot of them in South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama...

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
83. You think Hillary doesn't work with other lists?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:21 PM
Feb 2016

You think she doesn't have canvassers calling Bernie supporters?

brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
85. I think she's trying to avoid speculative Independents and Republicans...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:25 PM
Feb 2016

...since she's got the lead among African Americans and Latinos, maybe she doesn't have to.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
86. If you are going to win the GE in a red state
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:35 PM
Feb 2016

you are going to have to target independents and if you want to win the primary in an open primary state like Texas, you definitely would want to attract some crossover voters. Sorry, that's just the way the game is played in open primary states like Texas.

It could work for or against your candidate. I have heard of Democrats going to the Republican primary and voting for what they consider the least electable candidate. I have never done that but it happens a lot. The reason it doesn't happen more is because if you vote in the opposite party primary, you won't be eligible to go to any Democratic convention and participate in the nitty-gritty of the party such as writing the state party platform or going to the National Convention.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
94. Sanders has a tremendous number of volunteers doing calls
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:05 AM
Feb 2016

So I doubt any of your conjecture is correct. He likely just has enough call capability to approach marginal independents *and* the higher value targets.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
76. When I called, I had different calls lists
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:21 PM
Feb 2016

Sometimes I was calling those who had been identified as strongly supporting Sanders or leaning Sanders.

Other times I was calling Independents and Republicans. As I mentioned in an earlier post, this was worthwhile--because I did get some Indies and Republicans to caucus for Sanders. It was difficult in my precinct, but there were other precincts in my suburb that were easier because they weren't as conservative. For example, a downtown area would be more amenable to Independent canvassing that some of the other areas that were further out.

Earlier in the process, there were people calling off Dem lists--in an effort to do voter identification. Obviously the Dems were the primary source of the focus. However, there was some focus on Rs and Is simply because Sanders was snagging support from these people.

I also found many Republicans who weren't happy with the Republican slate of candidates. They were unsure. They knew they hated Hillary and we discussed them causing for Sanders in the primary, then they could vote in the Nov GE for their Republican candidate. Many wanted to do this because they hated Hillary. I thought this was a bit sleazy, although it would have been allowed. I talked with these people and mainly listened. I never followed up with any of them though, because I just didn't feel right. My feeling was---if they contact me or want to show up and caucus for Bernie--that's cool. They would have been more than welcome, but I didn't pursue them after the initial meeting.

 
155. He does, and he'll kill the meme that Clinton's firewall is solid this weekend.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:37 PM
Feb 2016

Already got some positive feedback for my efforts and appreciations/thank you from the SC voters on their primary locations.

Already helped send people to a huge phone bank event in San Francisco, and gave them information.

What have you done today, brooklynite, besides come here and denigrate us Bernie supporters?

brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
156. I didn't denigrate any Bernie supporters; I raised a question about Bernie's campaign...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:40 AM
Feb 2016

If you think things are going great, then what I say won't be troubling.

BTW...I hope you enjoy Bernie's SC concession speech tomorrow...from Massachusetts.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
7. Poor thing, but good on her for making the effort, putting herself out there.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:47 PM
Feb 2016

It's hard to do, but she did it, heard what she heard, and she'll have time to think about what it means, assess the experience, and be stronger as a result. That's just part of growing as a professional and a person.

KT2000

(20,583 posts)
12. the RW has picked this up
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:56 PM
Feb 2016

for laughs I guess. This country really is in big trouble.
Even if trump is not elected we are still stuck knowing how awful many of our fellow Americans really are. No politician can fix it anymore.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
78. Oh yeah, right-wing radio
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:25 PM
Feb 2016

is pounding on this like a bunch of feral cats.

They're mocking her and making fun. Many right-wing online outlets are making crap out of her as well.

The problem is that Trump and his overt (and covert) racism is emboldening these jerks. Trump makes them feel big and bad now--so they have no shame. They have a leader who validates their crazy (and their lack of class), so they feel comfortable attacking this young woman.

Bad leaders are bad for humanity.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
14. Damn! The comments on YouTube are vicious.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:00 PM
Feb 2016

This is in the description: "This girl cries about Bernie Sanders losing in Nevada to Hillary and because she can't get over the "sick" nature of Trump supporters. Hilarious!"

Only one comment because the rest are just as disgusting. "I prefer my females to be real women so I find nothing atrative about this pathetic weak girl who would not know what a real women is. also I'm sure she prefers her men to be girly sissy boy cuckolds any way."

It figures, it doesn't know what cuckold means.

The young lady in the video is crying because she feels empathy, she understands the nature of being a caring person, something that people with disgusting comments directed at her simply lack.

Loki

(3,825 posts)
15. The absolute filth of this society
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:08 PM
Feb 2016

has reared it's ugly head with the Trump/Cruz/Rubio campaigns. It's the new Republican Party and it's disgusting. Do whatever it takes to take back your State houses and senates, take back the national races and rid this country of this abomination.

LonePirate

(13,425 posts)
16. She was spot on with her Civil War comment.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:15 PM
Feb 2016

It's no wonder the Republican Party is so strong in the Deep South.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
19. The US government screwed up at the end of the civil war.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:23 PM
Feb 2016

They should have allowed anyone who wanted to leave the south, leave, any anyone who wanted to move there, move. Then let the confederate states form their own country. Let's face it, the deep south is, and always has been, a foreign country. Too bad that we can't go back in time.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
96. Abe dropped the ball.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:39 AM
Feb 2016

Traitors to the Union should have been dealt with as such. All property seized - The Great Southern Land Rush (with ALL free men allowed to participate). What could have been. I probably would not have been born but, eh....

Cheers!

democrank

(11,096 posts)
17. This breaks my heart.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:21 PM
Feb 2016

Such a rude awakening for a bright, compassionate human being. I`m so sorry that happened to her, but not a bit surprised.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
18. This can't be real.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:23 PM
Feb 2016

Yeah, calling and canvassing is hard. I've done it; I'm sure lots of us have (I always fondly recall a story a friend told of a day of struggling through canvassing in a relatively conservative neighborhood back in the 90s, and then someone opened the door and they had a picture of JFK and the Pope on the wall, much to his joy). Anyway, either no one's ever said "no" to her before or this is phony. I hate calling on behalf of candidates because I never know what I'm going to hear, but I don't cry because they are mean. I have to wonder what her pitch line was.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
33. Of course I'm not saying that.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:48 PM
Feb 2016

I just don't think this is real. I know this job. I've done this job. People have been mean for a long time. And this doesn't ring true to me in the least. "Hi, Facebook. It's ....it's....Chelsea...."

If it is true, then she's doing a job she's singularly unsuited for. But, again, I don't think it is real.

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
39. I don't think it's real either. She's not a child but acts like one. I have
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:01 PM
Feb 2016

grandchildren her age and her behavior makes no sense.

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
46. Sobbing is not required in order to have empathy and compassion.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:27 PM
Feb 2016

If that's a requirement I've been admiring quite a few fakers over the years---they never sobbed.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
60. I sobbed like mad after watching the How The West Was Lost PBS series. I was naive, did not know
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:14 PM
Feb 2016

these horrors were done to the Native American people.

She may be a faker, she may be real. But when those of us who do not know are confronted with ugliness in its deepest form it causes us to sob.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
125. So if I called southern voters and heard these things and didn't sob, I don't have compassion
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:18 PM
Feb 2016

and empathy??

I don't think this is fake, but I think this is an overly sensitive young woman who is singularly unsuited to be calling strangers who may support another candidate. And she hasn't been paying attention if she doesn't know Trump supporters hate black people, Hispanics and any foreigner except his wife.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
132. Each person reacts in their own way, one way or the other of reacting to learning of horror is not
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:22 PM
Feb 2016

either right nor wrong. It's one thing to see bigotry on tv or read about it in a blog but when directly confronted with hatred in person a deep gut level emotional reaction would certainly not be uncommon. Bigotry is an attack, it is a trauma many never recover from.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
51. It's not the crying after doing a hard job - it's putting it on Facebook
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:50 PM
Feb 2016

Something in it just rings false to me, and it's not because I lack empathy or haven't cried after a difficult day of work. I guess we'll find out eventually.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
79. She said she had been calling voters for three hours
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:41 PM
Feb 2016

If I'm not mistaken, she was calling in the South--and she is not from the South. Perhaps she is from the Midwest or a part of the country where racism isn't as prevalent or seen?

Maybe this was a shock to her.

I can totally see that. I live in Iowa and the state is 96 percent white. You would think that this makes us racist. Actually, it makes us naive about racism, because we aren't exposed to racism. My 15- and 16-year olds couldn't believe it when I told them that there are racists out there. My daughter said, "Mom that can't be true. How could anyone be like that? Wouldn't people hate them?"

I imagine that if my daughter saw or heard people talking about blacks or Hispanics in racists ways and referring to them as animals, she would have been incredibly upset, just like this girl.

We have raised our daughters to value all human beings and to be empathetic. They don't "get" that in some areas of the country people are racist. They can't even comprehend that a person would be so evil. Some kids aren't exposed to racism--they have a hard time accepting that human beings behave in this manner.

We've only had one incident happen. The girls had friends over and one of the friends made a very disparaging remark to an Asian girl who was at our home. My girls came to me the next day, very upset about it. We agreed to do the right thing and we called the girl's parents. We went over to their home and chatted with them, and we assured the girl's parents that this would never happen again and we let them know that this was unacceptable behavior in our home--and our girls apologized. The girls dropped the friend who made the remark. So...they may be in shock when racist crap happens, but they have absolutely NO tolerance for that kind of behavior when it occurs.

They don't understand a world that would be like this.

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
128. My daughters and grandaughters would have been repelled by the racism but
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:44 PM
Feb 2016

they wouldn't have sobbed uncontrollably and then posted it on the internet.

This young lady has a lot of growing up to do.

She wanted the attention,and she got it.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
136. Not everyone deals with experiences and emotions
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 06:13 PM
Feb 2016

in the same way.

Just because this young woman wouldn't have behaved as your daughters or granddaughters, doesn't mean that her reaction was wrong.

Social media is woven into the fabric of these young people's lives. It's not that big of a deal to take to social media and talk about your experiences and emotions.

Many kids have done it when they've been bullied or treated unfairly. Many cancer survivors talk about their experiences in this way as well.

I think her heart was in the right place.

21st Century Poet

(254 posts)
59. She shouldn't have taken it.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:14 PM
Feb 2016

Of course she should not have taken the job. How can she take a cold-calling job if she acts as if it's the first time she has heard something she doesn't agree with? This is either phony or this is the first time her parents have let her out into the wide world beyond the family's perfectly manicured front lawn. Real life is not candy, roses and kittens. If she cannot stand the heat, she should get out of the kitchen.

phylny

(8,380 posts)
144. This is why, to the dismay of our local Democratic group,
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:10 PM
Feb 2016

I won't phone bank. Not that I'd start to cry or be sad, but I absolutely hate calling people I don't know and start to ask political questions.

21st Century Poet

(254 posts)
157. Cold-calling is not for the faint of heart.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:15 AM
Feb 2016

I appreciate anyone putting in the time to cold-call for Sanders but you have to have a tough skin to do that job. People will say all sorts of things which, to you, would generally sound unacceptable.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
38. It certainly can be real.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:00 PM
Feb 2016

I've phone banked for 10+ years, and I dread getting Republicans on the phone.

In 2008, an 80-year-old woman told me to go to hell when I phone banked for President Obama.

I would advise this young woman to say, "well, bless your heart" to any obnoxious southerner, "have a nice day," and hang up.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
98. I phone banked only 1yr and couldnt deal with the
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:03 AM
Feb 2016

... many assholes I spoke to here in my purple state.

IF I didn't HAVE to identify myself and be polite because I was representing a liberal candidate, I would have told them to go to hell and hung up before they could have hung up on me. I got so many hang-ups.

I hate rude assholes. And wingers and racists...but I'm being redundant.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
28. That's why I said Trump is proof that "Idiocrocy" is a documentary. Trump said he has
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:35 PM
Feb 2016

the support of the poorly educated, he lovea the poorly educated. Scary as shit IMO

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
29. and the repubs would like the poorly eduacated to be the majority of this country. We are almost
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:37 PM
Feb 2016

there.

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
26. Yeah, my thought too
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:32 PM
Feb 2016

Even Conservadems down here wouldn't act like that. That's 100% pure Teabagger/Randian stuff.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
55. Well, I Beg To Differ With You... I Live In Florida & I Could Tell YOU
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:07 PM
Feb 2016

some tall tales! I even have a sister who lives in Texas who is also a Fundamentalist Christian who has said some pretty awful things, especially about hispanics that have made me bite my tongue. I need to add that we actually get along very well, but we both know NOT to talk politics OR religion!

And she has two grand daughters who are married to hispanics, but she has told me that "they aren't like the ones that upset her" How this makes any sense to her or anyone is something I can't explain. We grew up in the same house until we left the nest, but THIS does sound like something she would say. But, she thinks Trump is nuts and can't vote for him, she wants Ted Cruz Go figure!

Call foul if you want, but it DOES happen. I've been flipped off, called nasty names and cut off in traffic so a person could get close to my car to scream nasty comments at me. I'm told that Florida isn't even the deep south because of our diversity of people, but YES... it's real in my world. I've been in the trenches much longer than this young girl so I know it's going to happen, but it's wrong no matter how you want to spin it.

I've learned to take yard signs in at night and make sure my bumper stickers are put in places that can be ripped off too!

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
64. You realize you just agreed with me, right?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:18 PM
Feb 2016

Life long Tarheel living in Florida now, and Dems in the South do not talk like that. Most conservatives don't, either, because it's considered "redneck."

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
122. Everyone I work with who is sketchy like that
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:53 AM
Feb 2016

Is not from here -- they are all from north of Delaware. Not saying everyone who lives north of DE loves dog whistles, and even blatant racism, just talking about their transplants I have to interact with.

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
27. She needs
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:33 PM
Feb 2016

To have a Democratic Mom like the late great Molly Ivans sit down with her and talk about some of the stuff she has encountered.

She will grow strong as she gains experience.

God bless her sweet heart.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
71. I find myself wondering if it's a bit of ratfuckery intended to discourage would-be phonebankers
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:42 PM
Feb 2016

and alienate Southerners.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
101. I think it's bullshit too.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 07:15 AM
Feb 2016

What utter nonsense, but it's given the south-haters a reason to spew their hatred again.

Smh

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
50. Who could benefit so much from this video that it's 'too good be true'?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:37 PM
Feb 2016

How difficult is it to believe that someone cold-calling and asking random people whom they support would get answers like, "Trump, cause he'll keep out the animals"?

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
126. It's not that people don't believe those types of responses are very likely
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:06 PM
Feb 2016

In fact, those are the types of responses I'd expect from a Trump supporter. I think people are questioning how a politically involved young woman would not expect such responses from those types of people, and then become so emotional when she heard them. Anyone with a TV and internet connection has had to have heard/read them already.

This being the internet, I believe some people are rightfully skeptical of anything like. Maybe it's legitimate, as I know some people who cry over almost anything. However, I won't be surprised if in a few weeks we find out his is an actress who took made this video hoping it would be a viral internet sensation. How many times have we seen such stunts over the years?

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
97. Not knowing her background....
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:52 AM
Feb 2016

It could be but I think it is real. I can believe this visceral reaction. She reminds me of my niece. She was probably never exposed to this while growing up. Reality hit this YOUNG lady like a 2 x 4. I can understand thinking it's a hoax though.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
99. I agree. This is not a hoax.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:17 AM
Feb 2016

The doubters on this thread really surprise and disappoint me. This gal could be only 18 and could've never been exposed to the real world before.

I have phone banked and have had people be unbelievably rude, so much so that I want to call them back and yell a steam of profanity.

Thanks for understanding and having true compassion, Missn-Hitch. (i miss him too.)



Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
43. I just want to give her a hug. I hate 'cold calling' as Trump just called his own - the "uneducated"
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:16 PM
Feb 2016
"I love the poorly educated! They are the smartest people, the most loyal people." Trump 2016

fierywoman

(7,686 posts)
45. my dream
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:26 PM
Feb 2016

My dream is that everyone -- starting with the right-wing Christians -- live by the golden rule regarding every single human being on the face of the earth. (If you don't live by the golden rule, how can you be considered a Christian???)

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
52. She's got guts, both to cold call and to bare her soul like that
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:53 PM
Feb 2016

Stick with it, kid, and thanks for getting involved. Just stay away from the South next time (or demand a better quality list).

21st Century Poet

(254 posts)
53. Not impressed
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:56 PM
Feb 2016

Oh dear, what an attention-seeking, drama queen.

Give the poor thing a teddy-bear and a pacifier and send her back home to sleep.

Sorry, but I'm not impressed.

You are cold calling people. It's annoying to get cold called. Some people will troll you. So what?

She said some people compared others to animals. Well, what were the questions that elicited such a response? And what were the people's exact replies? I suppose she is paraphrasing, and probably taking too much offence for no reason at all (people say all sorts of strange things, especially if they happen to be in a foul mood). Her statements are incredibly vague.

But she is young, lives in her own little bubble and has little world experience so we should cut her some slack. She probably thinks that anyone who does not speak the same language she does is an offensive, racist, sexist, misogynist, ageist, homophobic, transphobic git. That is NOT the way to win over new voters. Your job is to work that telephone line and try to attract new voters. If you can't stand the heat, you should get out of the kitchen.

Response to 21st Century Poet (Reply #53)

21st Century Poet

(254 posts)
68. Not trying to fool anybody
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:33 PM
Feb 2016

I am not trying to fool anybody. Many people on this board seem to think that she is making it up so I am not exactly an outlier. I don't know about you but when I feel like crying, I do it privately not all over the internet to make a spectacle. Maybe I'm just old-fashioned. I also don't use emoticons when I write because I find them childish, don't use acronyms because I find them lazy and don't use initials for names because I find them insulting (BS for Bernie Sanders and BO for Barack Obama, really?).

Oh well, I just had to look the word freeper up. It's always good to learn new words. Thank you.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
61. I don't believe it
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:15 PM
Feb 2016

I've been told right here that every hard core Southern teabagger who thinks Mooslims hide under every bed and voted for the likes of Jeff Sessions and Dave Vitter "really like what Bernie has to say" and are ready to go Democrat, but only if it's Bernie!














(of course I do believe her, Right-wing Republicans are fucking stupid pissant scumbags and I have no interest in somehow thinking they can be swayed to our side. Fuck them........Welcome to reality, young lady!)

Response to big_dog (Original post)

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
102. Your post is really something.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 07:22 AM
Feb 2016

Do you think that the tornados, hurricanes, and mudslides only kill white people?

I live in Charlotte. This city has a very large black population, has had black mayors, has black politicians serving in every capacity currently and in the past.

Black and white people have been going to school together here longer than most of the country. We are friends, neighbors, lovers, co-workers. You know NOTHING about Charlotte.

So go on with your nasty wish for people to die in natural disasters. Sadly for you, Charlotte rarely gets any of those you mentioned.

Bless your heart.

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
123. I agree -- wtf
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:55 AM
Feb 2016

I lived in Chapel Hill before moving to the very bluest of blue Florida. What a post!

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
151. Just remember while you're giggling over the thought of ppl
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:31 PM
Feb 2016

being struck by life threatening natural disasters simply because of where they reside, karma's a hell of a thing.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
84. This is a key problem with the energetic young, the milennials. Many don't have a clue about the
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:24 PM
Feb 2016

world around them. It really is sad when they have to find out the this young lady did. I really felt sorry for her. But now she knows that Trump supporters are among the most vile, ignorant, racist, homophobic human beings out there. That is why it is so important for all of us, Bernie and Hillary supporters, to be civil in our disagreements, stay focused on the issues and dispense with the unproven, personally demeaning attacks on our candidates. We want the young to feel energized. We want them to become actively involved in public service. We should set the example for intelligent discourse.

And once again, supporters actually represent their candidate to the world. I have already judged Trump on his own statements but I have added an extra layer of evil to him based on the kind of people I see and hear who support him.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
87. Of course Hillary supporters don't see racism as a problem.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:41 PM
Feb 2016

What a sick bunch. This girl is doing work trying to spread liberalism and she gets shit on......

 
90. Trump and his voters are a scary bunch
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:08 AM
Feb 2016

We will be so screwed if he wins this November. I hope Americans do their best to keep him from being elected.

mackdaddy

(1,527 posts)
91. A friend on facebook posted about having the same experience calling SC.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:09 AM
Feb 2016

She has been phone banking for several weeks now calling all over the country. She was very upset after calling South Carolina people, and posted about it. She said that most people from nearly everywhere else would just politely say they were not interested. She sounded like this person after a hour calling SC.
After she calmed down she started on her Tenn list, and she said she was back to reasonable interactions again.

By the way what is up with all of the instant lie detectors here? I have seen more nasty "I just know they are lying" posts on here than in the 14 plus years I have been reading DU. It is one thing to say "I have questions", quite another to just flat out say "I know they are F'n Lying!".

Heeeeers Johnny

(423 posts)
92. But... does she love cats?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:50 AM
Feb 2016


For fucks sake what an overly emotional, overly sensitive, millennial delicate little flower.

Anyone with half an ounce of intelligence, savvy, knowledge, education etc... would have just ignored the callie,
rolled their eyes, thanked them for their time and hung up; then go onto the
next person on the list... not go into a full blown, tearful, emotional breakdown then post it on YouTube.

Grow some fucking balls and get over yourself... JFC.

PCPrincess

(68 posts)
93. What's To Gain?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:34 AM
Feb 2016

Considering the subject of the OP's post is not here to read your comment, what could you have possibly gained by your extremely negative and ugly reply?

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
114. Oh what great compassion...Not!
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:16 AM
Feb 2016

You sound as if it might just be easy for you to bully sensitive people. Gee, what party has a patent on such a characteristic?

Bye Bye now.

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
127. I don't think he's mocking, but rather believes the person in the video is playing a character
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:13 PM
Feb 2016

in order to make a video that goes viral. The cat video lady wasn't real, but someone who made the video for the sole intent of getting it spread around the internet. Similar to the famous "Leave Brittany Alone" video.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
130. Okay. Thank you.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:18 PM
Feb 2016

I was basing my opinion on the young lady's reddish nose which is difficult to fake when pretend crying.

Plus the fact that i've actually heard my husband's southern mother and grandmother call PoC animals!! (We eventually became completely estranged fr his entire family, btw, causing us to forfeit a big inheritance.) So, I could understand someone being so shocked and hurt to hear such hateful, denigrating things said.

I suppose I could have been suckered. Thank you for explaining his thinking.

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
131. I'm still on the fence about this newest video.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:27 PM
Feb 2016

I've become rather leery of anything that comes out on the internet.

Oh yeah, I know first hand that there are some people who say awful things like that. I'm rather disturbed myself by how pervasive it is though. I always knew it existed, but they really really are coming out and letting their bigotry and hatred shine this past year. I used to think it would take a few generations for things to really devolve to the middle-ages if society broke down, but now I'm convinced it will happen much more quickly. There's just too many people who still have that mindset, but they just keep it repressed because of societal pressures (or at least they used to)

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
133. Trump, Limbaugh, etc. have validated their hatred and behavior.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:25 PM
Feb 2016

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Yes, it won't take long for society to return to the middle ages when it does break down.
Most don't realize that break down is eventually going to happen due to global warming. Speaking of tears, I've done enough.

My Good Babushka

(2,710 posts)
103. It's the right response to be disheartened and upset
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 07:28 AM
Feb 2016

when you hear people saying horrible, racist, ugly, violent things about other human beings. I rebuke anyone who wants to shame her for having emotions and having the courage to air them.
Crying doesn't mean she is weak or delicate, but thanks for promoting a gross, macho stereotype of what strength should look like.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
134. Crying into a selfie that you post seems a bit contrived.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:59 PM
Feb 2016

I prefer one or two good friends and a bottle of bourbon.

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
107. Embarrassing.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 07:43 AM
Feb 2016

Time to grow up kid, the real world is ugly and mean. Those people are disgusting for sure but this is no way to act.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
111. I've lived in FL 30 years, TX 3 years, and now PA...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:02 AM
Feb 2016

This video was an indication of what has been a life-long problem for the progressive movement... It is not just this economy, although it has certainly been whipped up since the end of the 1980's BY what has degraded into a service-based future in many American's "job pool".

When you get far less than the "American Dream" and you're local community's culture blames the working poor or unemployed, or homeless, or has been driven by stead diets of Rush Limbaugh and his ilk to hate social service budgets, or jobs that are disappearing, YOU'LL HAVE THIS!

We are much the wiser after a steady diet of unfair reporting and the buying of the people's airwaves. There is no more balance in presenting more than corporately controlled right wing talk (alternative found only on the internets)

I've lived around Southern ignoramus bullshit, but it is NOT relegated solely to "deep south" only. She will realize eventually that it continues to thrive well in places throughout my commonwealth of PA (see South Poverty Law Center's map of hate-based groups, PA is certainly represented).

Welcome to the current state of pitting one person against the other, which has always been the way of the corporate state. Pit person against person, and you'll effectively control the hustings.

I want to give her a big hug. I also want her to realize that the enormous amount of damage aimed at how American's got their news and what choices were left in skilled labor helped bring this about.

Dear young woman: Continue to hear it, thank them for their time, hang up and move on. I hear the call of the TrumpETTS myself when talking to some of those South Carolinians, but I SEE it in PA when they pass my car (Bernie sticker) with a big ass Rebel Flag, shaved heads aglow with massive ignorance.

I've lost friendships over to the call of the TrumpETTS. Let's meet them with clarity and an understanding of history from this point, my dear young woman.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
117. This is sad.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:30 AM
Feb 2016

I'm sorry she had to talk to those assholes. What is wrong with people? Sometimes (most of the time, actually), I really HATE Americans. Most of us suck. And the internet is a cesspool that seems to bring out the very worst in people. I don't really get why, except for the anonymity factor.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
124. OK, she's a little overly sensitive, or just very naive
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:14 PM
Feb 2016

Is there any adult who doesn't know that many in the south think other races are animals?? And to be fair, this is all racists in this country. They all think others are lower forms of animals.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
149. To all of you who think this is fake, I can confirm that as a 28 yr old male
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:54 PM
Feb 2016

I WOULD CRY if I were exposed to the REALITY that there are REALLY PEOPLE THAT CONSIDER OTHERS ANIMALS. After, for 3 hours, speaking to people who REALLY WANT TO VOTE FOR TRUMP, and to see it, FACE TO FACE that Trump isn't just a joke on TV. His hatred is real. And to hear that from real people?

Yeah, it would break me down.

ancianita

(36,092 posts)
161. For anyone in this country to call any humans animals is un-American. They are not America.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:33 PM
Feb 2016

I'm repeating for emphasis.

One of the first hurts for politically engaged young is their heartbreaking exposure to the ugliness of haters and their politics of spite.

Trump chumps are the result, over two generations, of designed deprivation by Americans elites. They have been deprived of education, rational media reporting and analysis. They've been systematically disenfranchised, made jobless and their fears and ignorance pandered to by contemptuous political leaders.

Trump chumps are then vulnerable to the elites' lies about their deprivation and that only those they can "see" are their enemies. They always turn to rich confidence men like Trump who promise to get them a "better deal."

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