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Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 06:13 PM Mar 2016

Harvard Law panel seeks to scrap official seal tied to slave owners

Source: Reuters

Harvard Law panel seeks to scrap official seal tied to slave owners

Reuters
By Barbara Goldberg
21 minutes ago

(Reuters) - A Harvard Law School committee on Friday recommended scrapping its official seal because it features the crest of a slave-owning family that helped endow the oldest U.S. university, saying it is an offensive symbol of a racist past.

The committee took up the issue after a student group called Royalls Must Go demanded that the law school remove the seal. The emblem is adorned with the crest of the Royalls, a family of plantation owners and merchants whose donation helped establish Harvard's first law professorship.

. . .

Criticism over the seal intensified in November after portraits of black faculty members of Harvard Law School were apparently vandalized. An investigation by campus police into the defacing of the images with black tape proved inconclusive.

The move to get rid of the seal is the latest example of a historical emblem in the United States being removed or altered after critics called attention to long-ignored or unnoticed racist associations.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/harvard-law-panel-seeks-scrap-official-seal-tied-214923447.html

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Harvard Law panel seeks to scrap official seal tied to slave owners (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2016 OP
Yale is having the same issue with Calhoun College KamaAina Mar 2016 #1
Is "slaveholder" enough for a name change, though? Wednesdays Mar 2016 #5
Calhoun was also a secessionist KamaAina Mar 2016 #6
A little more background on this story.... MADem Mar 2016 #2
Good for the Harvard students and administration removing the seal of the Royalls, appalachiablue Mar 2016 #3
A little more background on this story.... MADem Mar 2016 #4
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
1. Yale is having the same issue with Calhoun College
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

Yale College (the undergraduate school) is divided into twelve residential colleges (please don't call them dorms ; they have amenities such as their own libraries, theaters, etc.). Calhoun is, of course, named for slaveholder John C. Calhoun. A debate is raging over whether to change its name. Already the college's master (yes, the term "master" has come under fire as well ) has removed stained-glass windows depicting Calhoun's slaves.

Wednesdays

(17,367 posts)
5. Is "slaveholder" enough for a name change, though?
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 08:51 PM
Mar 2016

If so, a lot of places named "Jefferson" or "Washington" will have to re-think it as well.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. A little more background on this story....
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 06:34 PM
Mar 2016
http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2015/12/02/harvard-house-masters

Interesting read. Here is the Royall seal:



Which has been appropriately mocked in this fashion:



And here is the Haaaahvaaad seal:




I remember that, back in the day, people used to (sardonically) cheer on the Haaahvaad sports teams with a chant of "VE-Ri-TAS! Move Your ASS!"

Nothing wrong with a little "veritas" (truth). I'd be interested to see just how they'll change the thing, if they indeed move forward. And will they get rid of the one-word motto? Just because some stupid family had the motto shouldn't ruin the concept of "truth" for everyone else.

Wonder if the Radcliffe seal is fraught with issues? If not, maybe they could just take it and use it, instead:



appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
3. Good for the Harvard students and administration removing the seal of the Royalls,
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 06:40 PM
Mar 2016

the Massachusetts and West Indies family of merchant and plantation slave owners.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/29b5824a49f440568254b00d2150c2dd/student-group-opposes-harvard-law-seal-citing-slavery-ties



>Democracy Now! Interview with Craig Steven Wilder, author of "Ebony and Ivy: The Secret History of How Slavery Built America's Elite Colleges", 2013. http://www.democracynow.org/2013/11/29/ebony_and_ivy_the_secret_history

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. A little more background on this story....
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 07:25 PM
Mar 2016
http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2015/12/02/harvard-house-masters

Interesting read. Here is the Royall seal:



And here is the Haaaahvaaad seal:




I remember that, back in the day, people used to (sardonically) cheer on the Haaahvaad sports teams with a chant of "VE-Ri-TAS! Move Your ASS!"

Nothing wrong with a little "veritas" (truth). I'd be interested to see just how they'll change the thing, if they indeed move forward. And will they get rid of the one-word motto? Just because some stupid family had the motto shouldn't ruin the concept of "truth" for everyone else.

Wonder if the Radcliffe seal is fraught with issues? If not, maybe they could just take it and use it, instead:



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