'Extraordinary Turnout' Could Mean Sanders Victory: Maine Democratic Caucus Live Results

[Qutzupalotl]

Source: Patch.com

Maine voters are deciding between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders during Sunday's caucuses. High turnout so far bodes well for Sanders.
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Due to what the Maine Democratic Party is calling "extraordinary turnout," voters lining up to caucus in Portland will vote by paper ballot, rather than by caucus, to avoid overcrowding. It's not the only crowded site, according to social media posts. The party is urging that anyone in line wait it out, to ensure their voice is heard.
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As a result of the crowded caucuses Sunday, one Maine senator plans to put forward a resolution that would change the state's nominating contest to a primary vote, meaning ballots instead of in-person caucuses.
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She still gets at least 3 of the 5 supers, though.

Read more: http://patch.com/us/across-america/maine-democratic-caucus-live-results-tossup-between-sanders-clinton-0

[Qutzupalotl]

1. This is what a revolution looks like!

[orpupilofnature57]

2. Why is that when people show up, Bernie wins ?

[stillwaiting]

6. It seems when computers don't count votes Bernie does better than polling.

When computers count votes Hillary does better than polling.

Coincidence I am sure.

[anothergreenbus]

12. If the computers are cheating

Clinton can tell them to knock it off.

[itsrobert]

7. Unless they are AA/Blacks and latinos who show up

Correct?

[Matt_in_STL]

10. Any opportunity to inject race, huh?

Same old song.

[Qutzupalotl]

11. Northeasterners are more familiar with Bernie.

They know him best. Like his home state, which he won 86-14. The most highly regarded member of Congress. That's my candidate.

(edited to fix numbers)

[JDPriestly]

18. Actually, Bernie won 85.68% to Hillary's 13.56%.

http://vtelectionresults.sec.state.vt.us/Index.html#/

Hillary did not win ANY pledged delegates in Vermont.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/VT-D

Unfortunately, some of the superdelegates who pledged to Hillary before the primary have not yet moved to Bernie.

It is clear that Vermont voters are close to unanimous in their support for Bernie.

[Lizzie Poppet]

20. If those VT superdelegates don't switch to the will of the state's voters...

...I have no problem calling them anti-democratic traitors.

[Qutzupalotl]

21. And yes, Howard Dean is one

stubborn superdelegate.

With Hillary non-viable in Vermont, he still wants to cast for her, against the will of the voters, becasue he knows best. How arrogant. I'm sorry I ever told anyone to vote for him.

[0rganism]

36. i would wait on Dean...

being head of the DNC once himself, he's been tied pretty tightly to the DNC chair, who clearly has a lot of stake in HRC being the nominee

if Bernie does extremely well going forward and begins to tie it up in pledged delegates, i'm pretty sure Dean will switch his support

it's not like Bernie's counting on superdelegates at this stage of the primary anyway

[hopeforchange2008]

3. The vote in my Saco ME ward was 3 to 1 for Bernie!

The Bernie supporters were energized and the Bernie surrogate got them cheering!

[Gregorian]

4. Maybe Americans ARE paying attention, but they just haven't had anything worth paying attention to.

Something is driving them to the polls. I wonder what Cal and NY are going to be like. I don't have to think too hard to imagine that now.

[PatrickforO]

5. We're trying to push a primary vote instead of a caucus in my state as well.

Caucuses aren't really fair because what if you have to work? A primary vote - people can usually get in sometime when the polls are open.

[Qutzupalotl]

15. Privacy is also a concern with caucuses.

In Nevada, you had your boss telling you to caucus one way or else, and you kinda had to go along. Secret ballots are more honest.

[PatrickforO]

16. In our caucus, you can ASK for a secret ballot, but no one did.

[appalachiablue]

8. Excellent, Go Maine!

[passiveporcupine]

27. Hey, Superbern looks a little like Anthony Hopkins!

Never noticed that before.

[appalachiablue]

30. Great Welsh actor, and I can see a bit of resemblance.

[PatrynXX]

9. seriously this is my response when I hear that SD BS PAY NO FUCKING attention to Super Delegates.

Stop including them. It should be illegal for the media to include them because they are taking on 500 that aren't there. Committing Election Fraud??

[Babel_17]

13. K&R

A large turnout is good for Democracy.

[Lizzie Poppet]

14. Yep. Bernie might crush Hillary in the Maine popular vote...

...and still the majority of superdelegates there will be handed to Clinton. Because why would the Democratic party give a shit about democracy?

So fucking through with that kind of anti-democratic, treasonous bullshit. Torches and pitchforks...

[TrueDemVA]

17. I'm with you

This is absolutely ridiculous if this stands. If he wins the popular vote, he should be awarded the proportionate delegates. I and sick of this garbage. If these super delagates do this, then the Democratic Party is gone. This is the most undemocratic thing they could do and I will have no problem leaving the party I grew up with, because they left us a long time ago. Scum bags.

[ChiciB1]

37. I Think MANY People In This Country ALREADY Feel They've Been Scammed...

The FIX has been apparent for quite some time now. Visiting with some friends earlier today this was the MAIN topic. So many people I know feel he's been treated horribly by The Party over all. The words "rigged against him" was the general feeling and that THEY will make sure he won't win.

What was really interesting is that we all weren't Democrats. Even the Repubs have begun to notice. They like his message a lot and they think he's been treated badly by the Big Name Democrats! All of us have never quite seen anything like this. With Trump they understand why he's a big problem for the Repubs, but feel The Clinton's are doing all they can to get rid of Bernie.

I think both sides SEE how money has ruined BOTH Parties, but Bernie does get a lot of respect. There were 2 people who were still very partisan but said Democrats talk about the Repub Party being a mess, but feel Democrats are fracturing because of The Clintons.

I personally AGREE, the D Party won't look the same after this election, there's so much anger out here!

Yes, I too am through with the ANTI-DEMOCRATIC, treasonous bullshit! If The Clintons think they will be loved by "The Subjects" she wants to rule... well it ain't gonna happen! I never really liked her in the past, but NOW my feelings have hardened even more and The Democratic Party is making a VERY BIG MISTAKE! So many of WILL be leaving because of HER! I won't even type what I really feel about her because most know punishment follows!

[Darb]

22. Of course it is. Has been all along, for the Repubes.

Good luck with that. Sounds like opinion to me. Anecdotal.

[Qutzupalotl]

23. Here's an anecdote for you:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511428497

[JackRiddler]

24. Stop counting supers.

It feeds into the whole "election is over so shut up" scam. Why do all the media outlets keep throwing in the supers (who NOT being elected at the primaries) into primary totals? That says it all. They say this and this election had this result, and the delegate count was X and Y, and they add the damn supers as if they are chosen by the primary.

All that counts is pledged delegates. If the day comes that the supers should reverse the choice of a majority of the pledged delegates as chosen by the voting/caucusing electorates, that will be the beginning of the end of the Democratic Party.

Now, however, we need to see more WINS for Sanders. He can go to the end (as is his right and ours to fund it) and it's great to pick up so many small ones but he needs to start WINNING big ones.

[Qutzupalotl]

25. I hope they never count the superdelegates

and we abandon that ridiculous anachronism. If we're the party of change, we need to allow change. SDs stifle it.

[dchill]

26. K&R!

[houston16revival]

28. Maine can't decide

whether to go right or left

Sanders ......... LePage

Supposedly such a liberal bastion

[thucythucy]

29. Always love to see Democrats turning out like this,

especially in the context of a paradigm shifting election.

Yeah!

[CdnExtraNational]

31. Gloria Borger on CNN says that most Super Delegates will be unwilling to switch to support Bernie...

... because they have at least a moral obligation to follow the voters in their state.

I almost spit up my drink!

[Nyan]

32. Isn't it quite telling that low turn-out works great for the Clinton camp?

Low turn-out tends to result from demoralization, low-information and lack of enthusiasm. And most of the time, it's republicans who benefit from low voter turn-out.

[Chicago1980]

34. Low turn-out is a result of laziness and often times... childishness.

[Chicago1980]

33. Looks like the state's been called.

[Herman4747]

35. Bernie gets 64%! n/t