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MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:25 PM Mar 2016

US drone 'kills 150 Somali militants'

Source: BBC

A US drone strike has killed more than 150 al-Shebab militants in Somalia, the Pentagon says.

Spokesman Captain Jeff Davis said the strike hit a training camp where a "large-scale" attack was being planned.

"We know they were going to be departing the camp and they posed an imminent threat to US and [African Union] forces," Captain Davis said.

"Initial assessments are that more than 150 terrorist fighters were eliminated," he added.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-35748986

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US drone 'kills 150 Somali militants' (Original Post) MowCowWhoHow III Mar 2016 OP
apparently it was the drones that made osama bin laden afraid and drones were successful in MariaThinks Mar 2016 #1
What the fuck is my country doing! Not in my name, assholes. Gregorian Mar 2016 #2
On the other hand, how many wives, husbands, children, mothers, and fathers will not be grieving mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2016 #3
Did you feel this leftynyc Mar 2016 #4
I was concerned for his pets. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2016 #6
LOL leftynyc Mar 2016 #10
A terrorist training camp? They have my permission to do it in my name. NaturalHigh Mar 2016 #5
And you know it was a terrorist camp how? scscholar Mar 2016 #7
Thank you. I don't always explain the details. Gregorian Mar 2016 #12
Agreed. And, I dread finding out this was a wedding party. Cavallo Mar 2016 #22
Good work. tabasco Mar 2016 #8
Must have had a lot of intel. on this group, the Aussies got a Lg. weapon shipment. who sold them? Sunlei Mar 2016 #9
Corps sell to the armies and governments. ManiacJoe Mar 2016 #17
Excellent! rollin74 Mar 2016 #11
My only concern is how they define "terrorist fighters" NickB79 Mar 2016 #13
How did they know that all 150 casualties were militants? Little Tich Mar 2016 #14
Good. FLPanhandle Mar 2016 #15
I would imagine ... Nihil Mar 2016 #18
Air strike by multiple drones and multiple manned planes. ManiacJoe Mar 2016 #16
k+r Blue_Tires Mar 2016 #19
Al-Shabab denies US strike in Somalia killed 150 fighters Eugene Mar 2016 #20
I think that a lot of us need to see the actual crimes. WhoWoodaKnew Mar 2016 #21
Thank you President Obama. Please sir may they have another? GOLGO 13 Mar 2016 #23

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
1. apparently it was the drones that made osama bin laden afraid and drones were successful in
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:30 PM
Mar 2016

destroying a lot of the al queda leadership (of murderers).

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
2. What the fuck is my country doing! Not in my name, assholes.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:31 PM
Mar 2016

How many wives, husbands, children, mothers, father, will grieve?

Shame on this country.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,725 posts)
3. On the other hand, how many wives, husbands, children, mothers, and fathers will not be grieving
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:44 PM
Mar 2016

as a result of this strike?

Awaiting further details....

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,725 posts)
6. I was concerned for his pets.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:58 PM
Mar 2016

Who was going to feed them? Didja thank about that? Huh?

I blame America.

(Please don't make me add that sarcasm thingy.)

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
5. A terrorist training camp? They have my permission to do it in my name.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:49 PM
Mar 2016

And no, I'm not the least bit ashamed.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
7. And you know it was a terrorist camp how?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:13 PM
Mar 2016

Seriously, there's a lack of critical thinking when it comes to drones.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
12. Thank you. I don't always explain the details.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:52 PM
Mar 2016

And even if it were a training camp, why are we killing them? This stuff goes over people's heads because, well, you just kill people, don't you? Isn't that how it's done?

And then the same applies to solutions.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
9. Must have had a lot of intel. on this group, the Aussies got a Lg. weapon shipment. who sold them?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:41 PM
Mar 2016
Also on Monday, the Australian navy said it had seized a huge cache of weapons on a fishing boat off the coast of Oman that was apparently heading for Somalia.

Grenade launchers, machine guns, and 2,000 assault rifles were concealed under fishing nets, a Navy spokesman said.


What country arms terrorist groups, ships and sells to them? what gun Corp sells to anyone with cash?

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
17. Corps sell to the armies and governments.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 08:10 AM
Mar 2016

Some of the soldiers make some extra money due to:
- Some of the guns "fall off" the back of the trucks.
- Some of the trucks fail to arrive.

Some of the governments give the arms as an "aid package".

NickB79

(19,285 posts)
13. My only concern is how they define "terrorist fighters"
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:00 PM
Mar 2016

Because in Afghanistan, any male over the age of 13 is basically a terrorist fighter in the eyes of the US government: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/29/drone-attacks-innocent-civilians_n_1554380.html

The Obama administration has in turn been secretive about its use of targeted drone strikes, boasted about the program's success, and fended off critics who say the strikes are killing and injuring too many civilians. A New York Times story published Tuesday has the administration's human rights critics buzzing again. A key revelation comes near the end of the article, written by Jo Becker and Scott Shane, under the heading, "'They Must All Be Militants.'"

Obama, Becker and Shane write, was angry when informed that the first drone strike after he took office had killed innocent Pakistanis. But one of the measures the administration embraced to prevent future innocent casualties was to embrace a method of counting combatants that would rope in more innocents.

"It in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent," the Times reports. "Counterterrorism officials insist this approach is one of simple logic: people in an area of known terrorist activity, or found with a top Qaeda operative, are probably up to no good."

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
14. How did they know that all 150 casualties were militants?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:23 PM
Mar 2016

Not a single non-combatant killed? It doesn't make sense...

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
18. I would imagine ...
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:01 AM
Mar 2016

... that a number of equally ignorant people said the same thing on 12 September 2001 ...

Hurrah! Let us cheer the deaths of strangers thousands of miles away because our
Glorious Leaders say that it is a good thing!

Eugene

(61,974 posts)
20. Al-Shabab denies US strike in Somalia killed 150 fighters
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:52 PM
Mar 2016

Source: BBC

Al-Shabab denies US strike in Somalia killed 150 fighters

8 March 2016 Africa

Militant Islamist group al-Shabab has dismissed as exaggerated US claims that more than 150 of its fighters were killed in an air strike in Somalia.

The militants do not meet in such large numbers in "one spot" because of the threat of an attack, a spokesman said.

He did not give details of casualties.

A resident said that al-Shabab had arrested several people from the remote central Somali village of Raso, after the US bombed its training camp in a nearby forested area on Saturday.

The US said the strike, by both drones and manned aircraft, was aimed at preventing a "large-scale attack" by the al-Qaeda-linked militants.

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Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35753866

WhoWoodaKnew

(847 posts)
21. I think that a lot of us need to see the actual crimes.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:07 PM
Mar 2016

When atrocities are reported in the media or discussed on the Internet it loses something.

For example, if a group kidnaps some women and gang rapes them, we feel horrible anger and want them locked up. If we were actually there and watched those women being raped (for, say, a half hour to an hour), we'd probably want to jump in and physically harm them (if not kill them).

Now, I understand that you can't punish people based on your emotions while watching them be gang raped, but I do think we'd be much more harsh with our punishments if we actually saw, with our own eyes, what actually happens (in some cases).

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
23. Thank you President Obama. Please sir may they have another?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:51 PM
Mar 2016

Let them have 10 more strikes. Just to be sure of course.

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