Mass killer Breivik gives Nazi salute as he sues Norway for 'inhuman treatment'

[Sunlei]

Source: reuters

Mass killer Anders Behring Breivik opened a court case against Norway on Tuesday with a Nazi salute as his lawyers prepared to argue he has received inhuman treatment by being kept in isolation for murdering 77 people in 2011.

Appearing in public for the first time since he was sentenced in 2012, Breivik has had just one visitor with whom he had physical contact - his mother, who was allowed into prison and gave him a hug shortly before she died of cancer in 2013.

Clean-shaven and wearing a black suit, white shirt and golden tie, Breivik raised his right arm in a flat-handed Nazi salute on arrival at the court, slightly different from the outstretched arm and clenched fist he used in 2012.

Breivik's lawyer accused Norway of violating a ban on "inhuman and degrading treatment" under the European Convention on Human Rights by keeping the 37-year-old isolated from other inmates in a special three-room cell.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-norway-breivik-idUSKCN0WH0LZ

[PeteSelman]

1. Yeah, fuck this guy.

He's not getting a tiny portion of the inhuman treatment he deserves.

[iandhr]

2. Three-room cell?

This is inhume treatment? Wow talk about chutzpah.

[Sunlei]

6. meanwhile 'best' usa prison Obama visited has 3 men living in a 9' X 9' cell

[christx30]

9. The man had to play on a

360 for 6 months after the Xbox one came out. I mean, there are limits to what a human should have to endure.

[Umbral18]

3. Norway treats its prisoners better than this country treats its poor or otherwise dispossessed.

This suit is laughable.

[ck4829]

4. And then the survivors and families of victims should sue him

[Kalidurga]

5. I think I missed the part where the government hunted him down and killed him.

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. Right wing terrorist Anders Behring Breivik -what is this "mass killer" shit

If this guy doesn't fit the description of a terrorist, then who does?

[w0nderer]

8. considering the anger in Norway when this guy did the mass killings

i'd suspect that's actually 'protective custody'

most Nordic countries don't like mass murderers, terrorists and child/youth killers
not to mention throwing out a Nz salute in a country that was occupied during WWII is ill advised as he well knew

i doubt he'd live in long in general population

[mwooldri]

10. And that is the main part of the Norwegian argument.

They're holding court in the gym of the prison. Not in an actual courthouse. Reason? For his safety.

While he does have a case, there are so many compelling reasons why he is kept the way he is. He might end up having a few more visitors albeit behind plexiglass but for present he'll have his cell suite and monitored communications.

Prisoners across Europe will be following this case closely. This could go all the way to the European Court of Human Rights.

[w0nderer]

12. I thought it was pretty standard procedure to keep certain prisoners separate from General Pop

child molesters
police officers who get prison


If there is an assumption that 'they will be the target of the general population'
they get kept in protective custody

As for him entering Gen pop is in effect suicide. That's most likely a part of why Norway doesn't want him in gen pop.

They don't want to make a 'political martyr for the NZ's out of him.

However even a lot of NZ's in Norway supposedly have it in for him.

[malthaussen]

11. He should try hard time in the U.S.

He'd be begging for his three-room cell.

-- Mal

[Major Hogwash]

13. Gave a Nazi salute, huh?

Well, that should earn him even more restrictions.
I wouldn't tolerate it at all.
And neither should the country of Norway.

[bullwinkle428]

14. Just continue to rot in prison, buddy.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

15. He's hardly "rotting"

That's really the sad part of all this. This is all over not having the newest video game system.

I hope some rat poison finds it's way into his "modestly and indifferently prepared" prime rib dinner soon.

[Peace Patriot]

16. He is a sore test of liberal principles...

--against capital punishment
--for free speech
--for rehabilitation
--against inhumane treatment and cruel & unusual punishment
--for providing decent prison conditions, food and health care.

But I admire Norway hugely for sticking to their principles. Did we do that after 9/11? No. We quickly abandoned all of our principles--you know, the things our parents and grandparents fought and died for in WW II, and, actually, the things that people have been fighting and dying for, for centuries, even millennia. No torture. Humane treatment of prisoners of war. Humane treatment of our own soldiers (as opposed to "stop loss" conscription--multiple tours of duty, quick turnaround tours). No general surveillance of private lives. The right to a speedy trial. The right to be confronted by your accusers. No "wars of choice" by the President. (Boy, is that gone!) No first strikes. (Gone.) No standing army (lost that in the 20th century, but they doubled down on the military post-9/11, to no good purpose whatsoever). And on and on. The Oligarchs found the perfect excuse to turn us all into slaves.

So, Norway, I salute you! Under extraordinary provocation--by the Nazis and now by the Nazis' spawn--you did not bend. Yours is a better democracy than ours, by far. Hold onto it! Have courage!

[iandhr]

18. I have much admiration for Norway.

However this guy killed 70 people and is a hard core Nazi. He has shown no remorse for his actions. There are people who can't rehabilitated. I am anti capital punishment but for a crimes this heinous life no parole should have been his sentence. The fact that he will see the outside of a prison cell after murdering 70 people is terrible.

[Peace Patriot]

21. I didn't know he's going to get out. That's sobering.

I wouldn't agree to that, myself--but I'm not close to the situation at all. And I hope they're mighty sure that he won't kill again. The man is extremely sick--a psychopath. No one does what he did who is NOT extremely sick. But he is also, obviously, extremely dangerous.

I don't think the object with him should be punishment. People that sick don't respond to punishment. It's useless. So I don't mind the easy accommodations and I would make him as comfortable as possible--the three rooms, good food, plenty of physical and mental activity, even visits with a very strong barrier. And keep him very securely confined, under a life sentence and with no unmonitored internet or correspondence.

I would never give up on anyone. Who knows, with the vast flexibility of the human mind, and with increasingly sophisticated and precisely targeted medical intervention, he could conceivably recover. He might one day be allowed to mingle. But I would never let him out. Never. The consequences of a relapse are just too horrible. I would never take that risk.

Anyway, that's my opinion.

[Ohio Joe]

20. You are correct

Of course, we all have an instinct that wants some type of revenge but... Their prison/punishment system is not only more civilized, it works far better.

[Javaman]

17. and he wasn't even at a trump ralley. nt

[tabasco]

19. Turn him over to Russia for confinement.

Norway prisons are far from inhumane.

[Blue_Tires]

22. Someone just needs to shoot that motherfucker