Not continuing to run would be ‘outrageously undemocratic,’ Bernie Sanders says
This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Agschmid (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).
Source: Washington Post
Sanders bristled at a question about whether there were other aims he could accomplish by staying in the race, such as gaining leverage in crafting the Democratic Party platform or continuing to keep income inequality on the national agenda.
“I’ve been asked that question a hundred times, and it’s a bad question,” Sanders said. “The goal is that I get elected president of the United States.”
Sanders reiterated that he has no intention of getting out of the race before the Democratic convention in July.
“Why would you not allow half the people to vote?” he asked. “That is outrageously undemocratic.”
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/17/not-continuing-to-run-would-be-outrageously-undemocratic-bernie-sanders-says/
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upaloopa
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Odin2005
(53,521 posts)The later states deserve a say, too.
KPN
(17,143 posts)Some of the Hillary folks strike me like she does -- and its not endearing.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)And I wonder what kind of low turn-out that spells for the GE, if Clinton manages to win the nomination-coronation.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)So Bernie is going to be strong in those independent-minded states.
Nickel79
(81 posts)why not let it play out? Isn't that how democracy works? Aren't people supposed to have a voice?
Some have called for Bernie to concede, and I find this laughable because the primary was front loaded with HRC-friendly states. Those states have voted, now let the others have a say. I know the idea of democracy irks fascists, but that's how we do things in this country.
She currently has 28% of the pledged delegates, and he's got 20%. That's like saying, "gee guys, it's halftime and we're down by a touchdown so we better just give up now." Utterly ridiculous.
gordyfl
(598 posts)As long as people are supporting him, he will, and should stay in the race. Besides, it appears Hillary still has a long way to go to hit the magic number.
Although Hillary's net worth is $45 million, although, so she could cover it herself. But I know that won't happen!
How does a politician amass so much money?
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Need I say more?
bluedigger
(17,399 posts)Must be some GS grades I don't know about. 
motionspotlight
(18 posts)
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)He's saying the primaries are not over. There are still 24 states to vote including my state of Oregon.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)
cut/past... saves key strokes
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Worked!
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)cut/past... save
jillan
(39,451 posts)to win the nomination.
Senator Sanders needs 300 more than her.
There are 2308 delegates waiting from the 24 states that have not yet voted!
Cavallo
(348 posts)
pnwmom
(110,194 posts)the numbers look almost impossible to non-partisan analysts, like FiveThirtyEight.
Last I heard his campaign was expecting a much better outcome on March 15th than they got. Falling even further behind than they expected on March 15 -- by a full 100 delegates -- must have impacted their hopes for catching up by June.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)I'm content to sit back and watch it unfold. If you are so sure that Bernie has no chance in hell, why do you act so concerned. We aren't.
pnwmom
(110,194 posts)and form a unified front against the Rethug, the better.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)First comes the right of people to vote. If you don't like that, move to North Korea.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Interesting ...
pnwmom
(110,194 posts)that Bernie should be training his guns at the real opposition -- the Rethug nominee.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)The country is pretty much triangulated out.
karynnj
(60,779 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 18, 2016, 09:08 PM - Edit history (1)
Hillary Clinton herself conceded on June 7th -- even though the last contest was on June 3rd in 2008. For about a month, pundits had predicted - just as they are doing now in her favor - that it was very very likely Obama had the path to the nomination, not her. It was her right to continue ... and she did. It was also her right not to concede until she did.
But 2008 was somewhat an anomaly. There were two very close candidates. So, let's look back at past contests:
The only other one that DU existed for was 2004. Although John Kerry dominated the contests even more than Hillary has this year, if you read threads from late February 2003 or March 1 or 2, you would not see ANY calls for just conceding that Kerry was going to be the nominee. This in spite of the fact that he had won every contest except 2 - SC won by Edwards and MO won by Clark with 30 %, Edwards 30%, and Kerry 27%. Kerry at that point had won a higher percent of delegates than HRC had this year -- and was ahead in polls for all the states, including many big ones, up on March 2 -- except VT, which favored Dean even though he had dropped out.
Yet, there were many many threads on DU and Daily Kos that advocated for Edwards. In the mainstream media, the NYT that last weekend had an op-ed that started by saying that we know the Democratic nominee would be named "John" - it then went on to advocate for Edwards. I was for Kerry and really did not think this was unfair. It was clear to me that there was about a month when it really was Kerry's race to lose, while the media played it as Edwards vs Kerry - ignoring he had one just one state! On the left boards, I saw no posts that suggested that we should all just get behind Kerry.
The important thing is that this did NOT hurt Kerry. For one, it meant a few more Tuesdays where Kerry joyfully thanked the states that had voted for him and got some coverage from the media -- which otherwise preferred to ignore him. Now, HRC has more media support, but I think that she wins if there are more contests and she is out there getting the coverage she does. Consider that if Bernie (for some strange reason) just conceded -- do you question that we would then have wall to wall Cruz/Trump?
There are very few times where someone looks better than in happily winning and celebrating with their people. Going back to the Kerry case, on March 2, he did, as predicted win big in all the states except VT and even with many states left had almost the number of delegates needed. Edwards conceded at that point - it would have been mathematically impossible for him to win the delegates needed. Kuchinich stayed in -- until the convention. Again, I heard no one complain that he did this.
Now, Bernie is stronger than Edwards (and Kuchinich) were in late February 2004. HRC has not yet reached the equivalent of Kerry's March 2, when he was within a handful of delegates from the nomination and many states left to contest. I do remember the very fleeting coverage (it's why I found CSPAN!) of any remaining Kerry victories beyond March 2. He was the de facto nominee, but he still spoke in states with later contests, but much of the coverage was Republican attacks on him.
I think the call should be one of civility, but it should be on both sides. I think Hillary people might do well to think back to 2008. I assume that all of them remember the lost of their hopes and dreams -- the empty feeling of knowing the dream that seemed real, that seemed like it could become true was gone. There were some Clinton supporters, who posted in early June that they were all in for Obama. There were many who went silent. I think they needed space and time to grieve (I had hesitated to use that word, but went back to it as I think it is the right word for many). I would bet that even as Obama started to run a great campaign and both Clintons gave great supporting speeches, for some there would always be regret that it was not Clinton. (I say this as someone who has never really gotten over 2004)
Hillary Clinton will need the Democratic left - many of whom respect and support Sanders. Just as there have been threads on the WINNER, HRC, that are in poor taste and are unfair -- and link to every right wing source I refuse to go to, there have been many threads that trash Bernie Sanders in ways that are extremely unfair. Consider that, unlike HRC, he will almost certainly not get a Presidential run or be President. Lies that are said may color how he perceived by many forever. He is a good man, with an 83% approval rating - the highest (by 12 points) in the Senate. Even sillier are the attacks on Bernie supporters. In any large group - there will be people who misbehave, but there are thousands of good people many of whom posted here for more than a decade. Many are Democratic activists. Do you really think personal attacks on them will make them more likely to eagerly advocate for HRC?
renate
(13,776 posts)Thank you so much for pulling all that history and information together. And your opinions are beautifully and kindly expressed. That was AWESOME!
Hissyspit
(45,790 posts)Obama and Clinton, 2008? Democrat became President?
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)
Beartracks
(14,352 posts)... where the team with fewer points at half-time is expected to quit.
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Maybe this should be called DeflateGate II, because they're hoping to deflate the enthusiasm of Bernie's supporters.
That reminds me... I've got another $27 burning a hole in my pocket. Think I'll send it to the Sanders campaign.
liberal from boston
(856 posts)You have no right to demand that Senator Sanders quit & it is outrageous that you & other Hillary supporters try to bully his Bernie's supporters. Tonight Lawrence showed a clip from Rachel where Bernie again stated that he is in this campaign til the Democratic Convention. It is obvious that Hillary's Campaign is worried & I am sure her campaign has organized her supporters to come & mock Bernie.
lunamagica
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ColesCountyDem
(6,944 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)ColesCountyDem
(6,944 posts)Mississippi, Georgia, Louisiana, Tennessee, etc.-- THOSE red states....
stopbush
(24,783 posts)pnwmom
(110,194 posts)according to census numbers.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Hillary is going to win AZ, PA and NY. She will probably take CA as well.
ColesCountyDem
(6,944 posts)Response to lunamagica (Reply #39)
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ColesCountyDem
(6,944 posts)That's the most ridiculous statement yet! Since when did observing that HRC's lead in the popular vote is a result of votes cast in states we won't win this November become 'racist'?
zalinda
(5,621 posts)
kiva
(4,373 posts)include comments about his racism/the racism of his followers. Bonus points if you can include sexism...and now that there is no more 5 hides = vacation expect even more of it.
ColesCountyDem
(6,944 posts)On the one hand, Sec. Clinton is touted as being ten feet tall and titanium-clad, able to leap tall Teapublicans at a single bound and be impervious to their most vicious, brutal assaults, but on the other and, she seems to be this egg-shell fragile person who is grievously wounded by the slightest observation that might cast even a hint of a shadow over her allegedly brilliant electoral victories, or even raise the mildest, most ordinary questions about how she makes a living.
Come on, Clinton supporters, make up your mind about who she is, please!
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)ColesCountyDem
(6,944 posts)Registration, turnout, past electoral history, makeup of the Congressional delegation, control of the governorship and state legislature....
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)
Blue State Bandit
(2,122 posts)
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)O_O you must be joking
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)On this OP....
Not
Blue State Bandit
(2,122 posts)if you want to continue to use that argument...
Oh yeah,
But the Des Moines Register, the state’s top newspaper, has called for a “complete audit” of the Democratic Party caucuses after some of its editorial board members reported “chaos” and irregularities at polling places.
The Sanders campaign has called on McGuire to release the raw voting data, and staffers have been rechecking the results precinct by precinct — where they have reported inconsistencies.
They want McGuire to release the math sheets or other paperwork filled out by precinct chairs and then turned over to the state party.
The Register faulted McGuire for refusing to do that, instead citing party tradition.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/iowa-party-boss-holding-onto-contested-vote-totals-drives-car-with-the-license-plate-hrc-2016/
So unless you are privy to info that the rest of us don't have. You need to retract this statement.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(12,620 posts)Flagged for review.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Why hold elections at all if we're to use that logic?
JoFerret
(10,710 posts)Unfortunately.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)
Nyan
(1,192 posts)Bernie has won far more states than Ted Fucking Cruz. And only Bernie gets to deal with this crap question.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Also, the media constantly asks Bernie how he's going to accomplish his agenda & he tells them, but they never ask Trump how he's going to make America great again, or any of the other hair-brained ideas he's come up with.
The media is such a HUGE part of our problem!
fullautohotdog
(90 posts)Keep going. Not because I support him, but because I support the process. Besides, New York never matters... 
stopbush
(24,783 posts)She's polling well in every demo. BS has only a 13% lead in the 18-34 demo. He has a lot of ground to make up to avoid another blow out. Hillary was the senator from NY, after all.
Bernie thinking he'll win NY is delusional.
fullautohotdog
(90 posts)The point is I WANT MY SAY!!!!!
WHAAAAH!!!!!!!!1
Sorry, I have to mock myself a little bit there 
I know Hillary was my senator — I voted for her, and I'm leaning toward her now. I don't really care who wins, I'm just sick of nobody giving a crap about the Empire State despite our obscene number of delegates and the obscene amount of cash we pour into candidates' coffers.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Kall
(615 posts)FighttheFuture
(1,313 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)
chervilant
(8,267 posts)so that I don't have to see any more of your derisive, sarcastic posts.
jalan48
(14,914 posts)stopbush
(24,783 posts)
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)stopbush
(24,783 posts)Hard to see Bernie closing that gap with the support Hill has among women, blacks, Latinos and Party faithful.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)campaign here, and Hillary has a very weak platform.
Especially on marijuana and fracking, the environment, trade policy, jobs, education. You name it. Hillary's platform is weak compared to the opinions of Californians.
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abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Don't know or work with any Hillary supporters. See how that works?
jillan
(39,451 posts)I could go on.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #48)
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(8,879 posts)Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #52)
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(8,879 posts)
SammyWinstonJack
(44,313 posts)tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)Months ago
stopbush
(24,783 posts)Try again.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)I went to look for it. She's only up by 11 points - which is doable.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ca/california_democratic_presidential_primary-5321.html
stopbush
(24,783 posts)Hillary is ahead 42.5/29 in CA:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/?state=nwa
druidity33
(6,869 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)
jillan
(39,451 posts)way too long!
She didn't know Bernie was in it to win it? No - he's a 74 year old grandpa that just thought he'd run from state to state doing one rally after another, and start a movement to get big money's filthy hands out of our Democratic process just for the heck of it 
She is a Rhodes scholar that does not understand that when you need 2383 delegates to win the nomination and neither candidate has that - and there are still 24 states that have not voted for a total of 2308 AVAILABLE Delegates - the primary is not over.
Rachel what happened to you?
KPN
(17,143 posts)I think she's sadly let her success go to her head -- or joined the "in" crowd.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)Disappointed in Rachel as of late.
Keith Olbermann she is not.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Worldly Traveler
(34 posts)Chances are she has been threated with losing her show and her livelihood, but that does not mean I still watch her show. Empathy only goes so far.
motionspotlight
(18 posts)She did look visibly uncomfortable, possibly because she wasn't allowed to ask all the questions she wanted, even when he was the fuzzy socialist grandpa she was very cordial.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)because it would be so sad for America if he lost this election. This is a one-time chance to get an honest, experienced, good human being in the White House.
Obama is honest and a good human being, but he lacked the experience to deal with the Republicans.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)scscholar
(2,902 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)consider going along with the will of the voters.
motionspotlight
(18 posts)....should vote for the candidate their state chose. While superdelegates exist, they shouldn't, he makes a fair point.
WheelWalker
(9,380 posts)
blackspade
(10,056 posts)
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Go, Bernie...GO!
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)They put her at the top. Bernie was sandwiched between 7 other unknown name candidates. Studies show a clear advantage of being at the top of a ballot and then #2. What a snake.
msongs
(73,079 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)The rules said it was supposed to be random. There were 9 candidates. No one believes she was really pulled out of that hat as #1.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)More alleged and unsupported (though very creative) conspiracy theories.
"No one believes she was really pulled out of that hat as #1..." Of course you apply that consistently, yes? Anyone who was at the top of the ballot would only have gotten there via the mechanism of cheating? Or is math different when regarding a candidate of your choice?
Tarc
(10,597 posts)So...it's not that there's evidence of cheating, evidence that someone deliberately put her name first, it's just "I can't believe it" ?
Even googling variations of "Clinton Missouri ballot cheat", I can't even find a single source that discusses this; nether reputable media nor basement-dweller blog.
katmille
(213 posts)Many ballots are alphabetical! Clinton comes before Sanders!!!! Duh
Tarc
(10,597 posts)
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)It wasn't alphabetical order. Do your homework. It was supposed to be randomly picked but leadership council created the ballot without supervision. Corruption is what people hate and Hillary is doing the same things republicans have done forever. Blame yourself when the party splinters. I can't stand apologists like you who think it's ok to smugly game the system.
Harcourdt Fenton Mud
(29 posts)I think your title is offensive. Blind does not equal ignorant .
Tragl1
(104 posts)Personally, I like rooting for the underdog.
stopbush
(24,783 posts)With every primary, he becomes an even longer shot than he was before.
Tragl1
(104 posts)Yeah, Clinton's lead has grown but that was kinda what was expected, no? It really is something to see where Bernie has started and where he could possibly end up, primaries are not over. I wouldn't joke when your candidate is only up by 300 plus delegates at this point in the primaries. Kinda shows a little weakness, that could hurt her in the general? No? I mean Sanders shouldn't have so many delegates should he? Hmmm...but keep on keeping on.
stopbush
(24,783 posts)Why would anyone think Bernie is going to do well in the upcoming primaries when 1. Hillary is steam rolling him in the polls and 2. his campaign drew a goose egg this week after boasting that they would take 3 out of 5 contests, including Ohio and MO?
Keep on whistling past the Bernie graveyard.
Hands down, being a progressive matters and holding true progressive values matters. I do not like Clintons position on fracking nor her stance on the TPP. I will support Bernie and others like him, until the Democratic Party adopts a similar platform. Let's wait to see what happens in the rest of the primaries, I have my values and I like to vote for someone versus against #Drumph or whoever. I vote by conscious not what other clucking ducks quack at me to do. I still think if Clinton was such a strong candidate she should have more delegates no? with the media, money, and name recognition she has? I don't know I wouldn't be so quick to just assume this is over. But whatever floats your boat, I have my candidate you have yours. I've donated the max allowable to Bernie, I won't be doing that for Clinton.
stopbush
(24,783 posts)She has enough delegates that Bernie can't catch her.
What can I say? Go ahead and live the delusion. It won't be that much longer.
Tragl1
(104 posts)No explain to me how an "inevitable" candidate only comes up with 1,147 versus 837 delegates to someone that had 3% of the vote less than 9 months ago? Especially with the kind of media coverage she has had? Or are you saying the media has been exactly fair in their coverage? I think it's you that is delusional in not taking into account just how weak Clinton is, issue after issue, she's just weak and it will show in the general. Politico just wrote a piece on how Trump can beat her, and huffPO has articles showing how Sanders beats trump way more handily than she does. Her unfavorable rating is astronomical, so explain to me how she's the next great hope to stop Trump. Because frankly I don't see that happening unless it's Bernie.
stopbush
(24,783 posts)Yeah, because republican voter turnout is at all time highs...lets go with our "meh" candidate. Yay. We will just see who gets inaugurated. I hope it's a dem, because if not, we're screwed.
markj757
(194 posts)I don't mind if he stays in until everyone has voted, I think its a good thing that helps energize our party. But he definitely needs to change his tone and his attacks against Hillary once she becomes the presumptive nominee, or else I will start to loose respect for him. And so will a lot of other people who may vote for Hillary but still has a tremendous amount of respect for him and what he accomplished. There will be a point where it will be mathematically impossible for him to catch up (and I'm not talking about super delegates), and he needs to respect our presumptive nominee and the democratic party, or risk becoming nothing more than a glorified Ralph Nader. As of right now, even if he looses, I think everyone will say his campaign was a tremendous success and a victory for the liberal wing of the party.
JoFerret
(10,710 posts)It is also clear he loves himself more.
markj757
(194 posts)how he handles himself after its mathematically impossible for him to win will say a lot about his character. I have to be honest, I was disappointed to hear in the interview why he decided to run as Democrat, and I would think some of his supporters was disappointed to hear that answer as well. But as of right now, I'm still giving him the benefit of the doubt that he is the man I believe him to be.
peacebird
(14,195 posts) 
CrispyQ
(40,667 posts)
Shame on Obama for suggesting it's time to get behind HRC.
Shadowflash
(1,536 posts)It's only halftime.
What team gives up and quits at halftime?
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Somebody ask him.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)He did not file as a Democrat.
motionspotlight
(18 posts)He only ran as a democrat because our two-party system doesn't allow third party candidates and usually demonizes them (Nader).
TowneshipRebellion
(92 posts)Bernie remaining in the race keeps Hillary on the left. The longer he stays in, the better for the party. Hillary really shouldn't mind at all.
Bad Dog
(2,044 posts)But does it have to drag on until June? What about another Super super duper Tuesday when all those states who haven't yet voted can have their primaries?
Next Tuesday would do. Then all this pointless internecine fighting could stop.
NCjack
(10,297 posts)won enough delegates to become the presumptive nominee. Clinton suspended her campaign on June 7, 2008. If Clinton wants Sanders to withdraw at this moment, then she -- not her supporters -- should ask him so he can point out to her the hypocrisy of such a request.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)the above". I am urging all Bernie voters to stay in and GOTV for "all of the above reason".
They want us to get in line. Why? Well the first reason is so that they can defeat him in the rest of the states. GOTV for Bernie.
The other reasons they want us to shut up is so that they can change the focus of the discussion. I will not be changing the focus even after the Convention. Like Bernie there are a lot of issues that I was for before this election and I do not intend to change my direction and become a corporatist.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)enthusiasm and organization.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)Keep sowing them seeds.
Tarc
(10,597 posts)it is an end-around of the ban on GD-P posts appearing on the front page.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Tarc
(10,597 posts)So now we're seeing users coordinate in sparsely-use forums such as the ones for individual states and getting their fluff pieces to the main page that way.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Seriously, as if Washington would just throw his hands up in the air in the middle of our war for independence, and say, "well, we tried".
I can't believe the MSM's obsession with trying to get Bernie to drop out already.
They must think they are important, or sumpting.
motionspotlight
(18 posts)....which he thought would ruin this country.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)dropping out between when I mailed in my ballot and election day.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,313 posts) tabasco
(22,974 posts)when I cast my ballot in April.
shanti
(21,785 posts)wouldn't expect anything less.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)!!!!!!!!!!!!B-I-N-G-O!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LannyDeVaney
(1,033 posts)but it will be tough to convince folks of that once Sec. Clinton locks up the necessary delegate count for the nomination. At that point, why should he continue until the convention? It's certainly within his right to do so, but why should he? He could help the Democratic party more by getting behind Clinton at that point, in my opinion.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)"It's her turn". The promises, the agenda and the platform are all immaterial.
The Bernie supporters know that this is about something more. And the magnitude of that mandate to the party and to the country can only be measured by allowing everyone, in every last state, to vote.
JoFerret
(10,710 posts).. and get behind the (Democratic) nominee. Not to do so means risking your credibility. Unless of course you want to be a spoiler.
RiverNoord
(1,150 posts)and Democrats like you want him to throw in the towel. His stated aspirations are genuinely, deeply Democratic, and with the as much support as he has for them, they'd be the kind of negotiating positions the party has needed for decades.
Without strong negotiating positions such as his proposals, the Democratic party has lost ground to Republicans consistently year after year. Because they've shown, and keep showing, without any real cost, how far they're willing to go to get what they want. Vote over and over again to repeal the ACA? No problem. How about shutting down the government again? Sure, we're crazy about that. Impeach a President for fooling around in the White House? Hell, we're just pissed that we have to do it in our not-Oval-shaped offices and sometimes in bathroom stalls, but, sure, let's do that! And what about that uppity Kenyan Muslim Communist Nazi Dark-Skinned Guy who thinks he's actually the President? We'll invent new ways of dissing the office of the Presidency especially for him!
And it continues because WE DON'T FIGHT BACK. It appears that Donald @!$%@ing Trump will be the Republican nominee for the Presidency. And he's established positions like deporting all Muslims, going to war with whoever happens to piss him off at the wrong time, and generally being as racist as possible. Because of that, Democrats run scared and decide it's better to keep someone like that out of office than it is to fight for things that are important to us. We've become a party of cowards and collaborators against everything we supposedly once stood for.
Yep, let's call the guy who just doesn't seem to get how all that works a 'spoiler' and hush him off to the side. Especially before he wins more elections and reveals any further that we're just not that into Hillary Clinton.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)What little airtime the Democrats get now would vanish.
tRump would get even more airtime.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Frankly, I'm kind of tired of the corporate media pressuring him like this.
Bernie is staying in. You don't have to like it. He's not asking for your approval. He's serving those people who haven't voted yet and want to vote for him.
Millions are paying him to continue his campaign.
Get over your agenda.
LS_Editor
(920 posts)They have been screwing Bernie from the very beginning, and not even pretending otherwise. Satire warning.
Corporate Media to Ignore 27 Remaining Democratic Primaries
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Akamai
(1,779 posts)Think of it -- if he folds now, great progressive states like California and New York will not have the voters be able to make their wishes clear.
Instead, voters will see the votes of less progressive states and are less likely to believe that there is a strong progressive movement in this country -- and there really is a strong progressive movement, one wanting free college education, one concerned about the money in politics and income inequality, global warming, monopolies taking our jobs and futures, etc.
Let us help Bernie put these grand issues on the national stage so we can begin to address them.
Go on Bernie and know we have your back!!!
Go Bernie!!
